Equal Recall: Wis. Emailer Writes That Dems Are As Vulnerable As Republicans, and Thuggery Continues
In the week since Wisconsin lawmakers passed collective bargaining-related legislation, much noise has been made about efforts to recall GOP Senators who supported the measure.
A Google News search on "Wisconsin recall" returns items that are overwhelmingly oriented towards Democrat efforts to recall Republicans. The final sentence of a March 13 Associated Press report by Sam Hananel indicates that "Union officials are also helping mobilize demonstrations in state capitols and spending money on recall campaigns against GOP officials who support efforts to curb union rights," with no mention anywhere of GOP efforts against "Fleebagging" Dems.
It would be understandable if conservatives and Tea Party sympathizers believe that the Badger State recall momentum is on the Democratic side.
But an email correspondent in Wisconsin who follows matters there closely (Update, 9:00 p.m.: That would be Steve at No Runny Eggs, who has now put up a related post with a polling update) indicates that the split is closer to 50-50 in terms of genuine vulnerability. Specifically, Steve writes (bolds indicating that an atmosphere of leftist intimidation remains quite evident are mine):
(There are) six recalls I'm keeping an eye on. In decreasing chances of success, they are:
- Dan Kapanke (R-32nd) - Given the two college towns (La Crosse, Eau Claire) and the Mississippi River shoreline in his district, I don't know how he ever won election. Indeed, he was beaten in the Congressional race in November.
- Jim Holperin (D-12th) - His district is the mirror opposite of Kapanke's. All three Assemblymen in the district are Republicans. It also is one of 4 districts where there is a local effort, and it's the one that has had the most threats directed against it (to the point where one business ordered the recall organizers to not set up there after receiving threats, and not the boycott variety ).
- Dave Hansen (D-30th) - The district is slightly less Republican than Holperin's, but once again, all three Assemblymen are Republicans. Again, there is an active local recall committee.
- Randy Hopper (R-18th) - On paper, he "shouldn't" be vulnerable. In generic terms, the district is middle-of-the-R spectrum. However ... Hopper is not particularly well-liked, especially by his soon-to-be-ex.
- Robert Wirch (D-22nd) - Despite the fact that 2 of the 3 Assemblymen are Democrats, this district is a toss-up. The top-line races were virtually identical to the statewide races. Once again, there is a local group at work.
- Alberta Darling (R-8th) - ... the North Shore suburbs are a bit "funny", especially since it is right next to the UW-Milwaukee campus. The main reason the 2008 election was close was Darling had a health issue at a time that was aggressively used against her.
... What complicates getting a sense of how things are going is the intimidation campaign against the groups going after Wirch and Holperin. They're being tight-lipped on how well they are doing.
The rest of the recalls are wastes of time, though if a local group would have formed in Dem Julie Lassa's district, it may have had a chance.
Thus, my correspondent indicates that in order of vulnerability, Dems are 2, 3, and 5, while Republicans are 1, 4, and 6. That's as close to equal as you can get.
To give credit to the New York Times, it is one of a very few outlets to note, as it did in its March 12 Wisconsin coverage, that "eight Democrats — as well as eight Republicans — face recall efforts stemming from the dispute." But otherwise, you'd never know this from reading the vast majority of establishment press coverage of Governor Scott Walker and the Wisconsin legislation that Democrats appear to have at least as much to be concerned about as Republicans.
Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.
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The Dems have opened
Submitted by SentryDan on Thu, 03/17/2011 - 3:05pm.
Good article Tom. The Dems have opened a can of worms, however, with their push for recalls. We know that they are in bed with the union leaders and that all union members aren't democrats. So, there lies the problem for the dems. The rank and file union members need to realize that the union leaders are only interested in getting the dues money. Unions were a good thing when they started but now most are so corrupt that they are doing more harm than good. Remember folks, FREEDOM ISN'T FREE, it is bought with the blood and sacrifice of the men and women of the U.S. Armed Forces.I bet you won't see this
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 03/17/2011 - 3:24pm.
I bet you won't see this either from the MSM Union thugs ripping up recall partitions.
Not to mention ...
Submitted by Tom Blumer on Thu, 03/17/2011 - 4:04pm.
... the direct, specific threats against Althouse and Meade to stalk them incessantly (detailed here).
I think Ann and Meade have
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 03/17/2011 - 4:17pm.
I think Ann and Meade have done a good job of covering the shenanigans in Madison. The pictures didn't lie as far as I could tell. They have guts.
They can tout their "polls"...
Submitted by Ashrak on Thu, 03/17/2011 - 4:25pm.
But the proof is in the pudding. The real poll comes eventually.
There can be no real debate that people are pissed off in Wisconsin and the Democrats are risking a great deal with these recall efforts.
They might just find out that more people are pissed at them for what they have done than they currently realize.
Stoopid Pollsters
Submitted by HockeyKid on Thu, 03/17/2011 - 4:57pm.
I just took a phone call from a robo-poll. The recorded question said (paraphrasing), "The governor of Wisconsin recently signed legislation that takes away the rights of thousands of teachers and public workers to collectively bargain for better pay and working conditions, and caused thousands of protesters to descend on Madison, Wisconsin. Do you support the governor or the public sector workers?"
Hmmm. Lemme guess who commissioned that poll...
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
What I would like to know is
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Thu, 03/17/2011 - 9:32pm.
can we petition to get the US Senate recalled? The list of reasons begins easily with get rid of Harry Reed for bribing other senators for their votes. We all saw this as they said no to the vote, went off into a private room with Harry and come out with pockets stuffed with our money and suddenly voting yes.The list of things that these thieves have gotten away with should present us with many many democratic senators that need to be recalled, if we can...
Believe me...
Submitted by NevadanConservative on Fri, 03/18/2011 - 4:54am.
if you can get that whiny, pale, lying sack of rotted dung out of our Senate seat, I'm all up for knowing what methodology to use.Reid is an embarassment to the parts of the state NOT in his pocket.
Allowing for a 2012 election (and frankly, call it a 50-50 chance with BHO finally filtering thru the Party line and noticing he is in trouble) I think I recall of 31 seats in contention, 25 are D's.
Ensign is not running, so we have one R clearly in the wind. Luckily, the long termer from the north counties, Dean Heller, is not only stepping up to run, but has someone already ready to step into his shoes.
He has to run against either Dina "I never met a tax bill I couldn't vote for" Titus, who lost her seat to Joe Heck, or Shelly the Socialist Berkley, incumbent in NV-01. (My district, rot her.) Whichever one, I hope he moidelizes da bum.
I fear there is no ready to hand way to recall the entire senate. We have two more biennial voting cycles to do it ourselves.
HEY MAINE! Time for you to divest your self of one of the Twins next time 'round!!
NVCon