MSNBC Host Harris-Perry Suggests Democrats Dump Blue Dogs for a 'More Easily Corralled' Caucus
On Sunday morning's Melissa Harris-Perry show on MSNBC, the host noted angrily that 17 Democrats voted to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress for failing to produce documents in the Fast & Furious scandal. Harris-Perry brought on Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.), chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, to ask him if it wouldn't be better for the Democrats to go "without" the moderate-to-conservative Blue Dogs in favor of a "more easily corralled group."
Harris demanded all Democrats need to "get on the same page" before the Democrats convene in Charlotte in September, and nearly omnipresent MSNBC guest Karen Finney suggested the 17 anti-Holder Democrats were all terrified of the NRA and other outside spending groups:
MELISSA HARRIS-PERRY: Okay, so, can I ask you this? What in the world were the 17 Democrats who did not join you in the walkout, what were they thinking?
EMANUEL CLEAVER: Well, I had made the appeal to the Democratic Caucus on Thursday morning to walk out. Jim Clyburn of South Carolina had actually suggested at the CBC meeting the day before that we walk out, and we thought that we would have over 100, which we did, but we also realized that there are some blue dogs who simply believe that, you know, the people back home would think kindly of them if they went along with the contempt citation. I obviously disagree. Steny Hoyer then asked if they would at least vote and go to the cloakroom in the back so that our side would be empty, and I think most of them did. But, you know, each person who voted with the other side obviously believed that it would be a good move back home, particularly those who are in close races.
HARRIS-PERRY: Right, so, Congressman, let me ask you about that exactly. Are Democrats better off with or without the Blue Dogs? Obviously, the Blue Dogs provide a majority, they help to create the sense of higher numbers, but is it actually better off to end up with a consensus or a more easily corralled group, then to have the Blue Dogs as part of the Democratic Caucus?
CLEAVER: Well, you know, we are a coalition as someone mentioned earlier, of all kinds of people. We have conservative Democrats who embrace, I think, overall the Democratic principles, and then we have people who are considered liberal, like me, who would find antithetical many of the things that the Blue Dogs vote for. But, you know, I try desperately to respect the fact that they can't go along with us on a number of things, but let me also say that there comes times during the course of a session when I would say, now, we probably can do better without the Blue Dogs, and then I rethink it, and I come to the conclusion that, you know, the Democratic party is a big tent party and we need everybody.
HARRIS-PERRY: So Igor, is it possible? Here it is, July 1, we're moving toward the Labor Day DNC Convention, is it possible to get everybody on the same page between now and then?
IGOR VOLSKY, Think Progress blog: You know, it's always been hard for Democrats. You see how the right does it. They're so organized, they're so well instep - although on the Fast and Furious, I get the sense that the leadership wasn't happy with this vote. They scheduled it on Thursday, when the decision came down. They didn't want the headlines, but the right-wing members know this was a base issue, to rally their base, to come out, these conspiracy theories about a way to control gun violence, a secret attempt by the president to get gun control in place. I mean, how beholden is this party to the NRA? How far have they moved to the right for this to happen?
KAREN FINNEY: I mean, this is the best example of what Katrina was just talking about in terms of the grip that big money has on politics. Because those 17 members likely did not vote the way they did because that's what their constituents would want. Were they to make their argument about, "here's what I support, here's what I don't" -- they were afraid of the ads that would be run against them by the NRA and the outspending, the outside spending against them.
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Ah, and yet
Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 11:19pm.
Ah, and yet Harris-Perry-Smith-Jones-Whatever and her MSM ilk accuse Republicans of being "overly partisan", "inflexible", "non-cooperative"....
Yes the same people who get
Submitted by Reaver on Tue, 07/03/2012 - 12:07am.
Yes the same people who get all misty when a moderate republican loses a primary also demand that moderates be purged from the democrat party, go figure.
Blue Dogs
Submitted by HudsonRiverGirl on Tue, 07/03/2012 - 2:51am.
This is the exact same wish that Nancy Peloser made way back when. She was bashing Rahm for getting all those blue dogs elected.
What were they thinking?
Submitted by Guapo Diablo on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 11:27pm.
"...the 17 Democrats who did not join you in the walkout, what were they thinking?"
Hmmmm. Maybe they were thinking. "What's the right thing to do? Follow the lemmings off the cliff or use my head and think for myself?"
Maybe they were thinking that
Submitted by tcm14 on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 11:39pm.
Maybe they were thinking that Eric Holder was in contempt of Congress? Because he was? Just a possibility.
The only opinion is the one
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 11:36pm.
The only opinion is the one obama and holder give you. Anyone who uses a hyphenated name is a moron.
I guess crossing the aisle
Submitted by MrSnuggles on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 11:50pm.
I guess crossing the aisle and compromising is bad when democrats do it?
Whig
Submitted by oldfart on Tue, 07/03/2012 - 5:22am.
With talk like that, for political purity, the Democrats are no longer the 'big tent' party. You have to meet certain criteria of thinking. Perhaps Obama's legacy will be the destruction of the current Democratic Party as they go the way of the Whigs.
Striking the "Big Tent"
Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 07/03/2012 - 5:40am.
HARRIS-PERRY: . .. Right, so, Congressman, let me ask you about that exactly. Are Democrats better off with or without the Blue Dogs? Obviously, the Blue Dogs provide a majority, they help to create the sense of higher numbers, . . .?
Do the math, H-P. The Democrats are the minority in the House with or without the Blue Dogs. Just ask Minority Leader Pelosi.
CLEAVER: Well, you know, we are a coalition as someone mentioned earlier, of all kinds of people. We have conservative Democrats who embrace, I think, overall the Democratic principles, and then we have people who are considered liberal, like me, who would find antithetical many of the things that the Blue Dogs vote for.
So, by his own admission, the liberal Democrats are an even smaller segment of American politics than the DP numbers belie.
Go ahead and kick the Blue Dogs out and see what happens. Maybe they'll form a new party with Olympia Snowe and Jeb Bush.
If I was the new Presidet of Mexico
Submitted by oldfart on Tue, 07/03/2012 - 6:07am.
If I was the new President of Mexico I would have an arrest warrant issued against Anthony Holder for international gun running and murder for the deaths of Mexican Nationals.
If the current US Government failed to surrender Holder I would go to Interpol for an International Arrest Warrant which would bar Holder from ever leaving the United States, unless he could get some of his Mexican Drug Lord buddies to smuggle him out to Cuba.
The liberal solution...
Submitted by c5then on Tue, 07/03/2012 - 8:36am.
When someone disagrees with you, ostrasize them. If that doesn't work, try to silence them. If that doesn't work try to outlaw their speech.
Such a tolerant people who inhabit their self-described "big tent"...
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
Just imagine being her
Submitted by BBallleaper on Tue, 07/03/2012 - 9:07am.
third husband. I assume the other two took the easy way to! Good grief!
Call it what it is...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Tue, 07/03/2012 - 10:02am.
...Congressional Democratic Black Caucus...