Bill O'Reilly Clashes With WashPost Writer on MSNBC's Ban of 'Extremist' Pat Buchanan
On The O'Reilly Factor on Thursday night, Bill O'Reilly took on MSNBC's apparent ban on their former contributor Pat Buchanan in obedience to left-wing lobbies like Color of Change, who wanted him removed form the airwaves. Cathy Areu, a contributor to The Washington Post Magazine, argued Buchanan was a "white extremist" and "white supremacist" who "absolutely" should be banned and fired.
O'Reilly shot back: "Okay, so if the litmus test is you fire extremists, MSNBC would have nobody on. Nobody on." Areu attempted to nudge O'Reilly about his friendly relationship with Rev. Al Sharpton. O'Reilly replied: "Wait, wait, so Pat Buchanan in an extremist, but Al Sharpton is not?"
Areu insisted "I don't think he's an extremist." Here's how the chat unfolded:
BILL O'REILLY: And in the "Impact Segment" tonight the very liberal MSNBC Network has taken Pat Buchanan off the air because of stuff he has written in a book called "Suicide of a Superpower". Mr. Buchanan believes that the decline of Christianity in America has led to a cultural collapse and the acceleration of minority immigration has damaged the political process. Here is what he said yesterday.
PAT BUCHANAN (WOR radio clip): We seem at war with one another. I think you've got huge numbers of folks, millions coming in every year from cultures and countries and civilizations that have never been assimilated. I think it could kill the United States of America.
O'REILLY: Joining us now from Washington, radio talk show host Sandy Rios and here in the studio Cathy Areu, an editor at The Washington Post Magazine. So I know you disagree with Mr. Buchanan. We'll get to that in a moment but I don't think he should have been taken off the
air at MSNBC because this isn't the first time he said this, he's been saying this for years. Right?
CATHY AREU: Right. Well, a lot of people were suspicious that he was a white supremacist, a white extremist and by writing this book now it's clear. So I think MSNBC –
O'REILLY: It's not clear to me. I read it, I don't think he's a white supremacist. I think that he's making a point that the melting pot, the "We are all one nation under God" is done and he believes that is weakening the nation. I don't think that he thinks that white people are better than black people or better than minorities. I didn't get that at all. So that's your opinion. You could think he is a white supremacist, you can think I'm a member of the Mickey Mouse Club. That's your opinion. But should MSNBC have taken the man off the air when he has said this stuff for years?
AREU: Well yes. But it was never so obvious. He hinted at it and it was kind of there. But by writing this book it's in black and white. It was written by -- I see it as a white extremist. And if I didn't know that he had written it, I would have thought that someone from the KKK had written it. Now you find out that this Pat Buchanan wrote this book –
O'REILLY: So you think that MSNBC is right to take him off the air.
AREU: He is an extremist. Yes.
O'REILLY: Should he get fired?
AREU: Absolutely. He's an extremist.
O'REILLY: Okay, so if the litmus test is you fire extremists.
AREU: Yes.
O'REILLY: MSNBC would have nobody on. Nobody on.
AREU: I don't agree with that. I think -- I think --
O'REILLY: They are not extremists over there?
AREU: I do not think so.
O'REILLY: Do you watch the network?
AREU: I do watch the network.
O'REILLY: Okay I mean --
AREU: I do -- Al Sharpton, people have said --
O'REILLY: Not an extremist?
AREU: I do not think he's an extremist.
O'REILLY: No?
AREU: No he's been here many times and I think that you all agree --
O'REILLY: So wait, so wait, wait, so Al Sharpton is not but Buchanan is.
AREU: You still have agreed many times on many topics.
O'REILLY: I agree -- I agree I'm trying to find common ground with everybody.
AREU: I don't think he's an extremist.
[Hat tip: Johnny Dollar's Place]
Earlier: Cathy Areu Tells O'Reilly That Sarah Palin is 'Larry the Cable Guy Minus the Class and Intelligence'
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It is beyond
Submitted by D. S. Hube on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 10:38am.
... hysterical that M-BS-NBC would ax Buchanan ... but then give Al Sharpton his very own show. You just can't make stuff like this up.The real litmus test
Submitted by Okieflyover on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 11:00am.
Anyone watching al sharpton or Matthews is the litmus test for stupidity
I am so tired of hearing that a conservative view is going to drive away independents. Who is this woman reaching out to who isn't a far left nut job?
I think it's a good idea to
Submitted by alberta43 on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 12:38pm.
I think it's a good idea to watch/read the liberal point of view. How can an informed person just listen to one train of thought. I read both sides, and always am amazed at how far from reality the liberal left is. I then google their idiotic points of view and then dissect them one by one. How else can one discuss/argue against their views? Be aware, be informed and stay alert.
I agree
Submitted by JanineC on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 9:08pm.
I agree that one should listen to all sides of arguments and keep informed and to make the best judgment. Most of what the left says is just a rehash of the same things they always say with no real facts (or just half-truths) to back them up. Still, it is hard to discuss anything with them because they don't want to hear anything. They don't want to know the truth.
Calling Jews "diamond merchants" is not extremist
Submitted by frank14 on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 11:18am.
Helping to foment a riot at Crown Heights against Jews is not extremist. It's mainstream Democrat Party thought. Thank you Cathy Areu for clearing that up. Larry David, Barbra Streisand and Richard Dreyfus, are you listening?
I looked her up
Submitted by misterbee241 on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 11:20am.
on google because i dont know who she is. She's mighty pretty to be this bloody stupid. Dont brains and looks go together in Liberal Land?
And I looked Sharpton up too. He's an uneducated and ignorant bum, and i'd like to tell him that to his face.
I didn't read the book
Submitted by dmacleo on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 11:39am.
only read excerpts but my take away was the melting pot itself has failed.
we now have latin community, black community, etc....but we cannot have a white community as thats racist.
we used to have...A COMMUNITY...people came here to become Americans. nothing more nothing less.
that was my take at least.
The conservative. ..
Submitted by almostacowboy on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 11:54am.
commentor made that same point saying "we have a bunch of tribes " which Areu refused to accept.
Yep
Submitted by Joe W. on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 12:03pm.
That was my take as well. I am of German heritage. But I do not call myself a "German American". I am an American. The "Old Country" is just that. The OLD country. America is MY country, and I embrace her traditions, culture, language, laws and yes, her CHRISTIAN heritage.
Areu is an extremist.
Submitted by almostacowboy on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 11:41am.
Extremely dishonest. Extremely ignorant. Extremely intolerant. In other words, a liberal progressive.
Correction...
Submitted by JanineC on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 9:18pm.
She is NOT a "liberal", she is a LEFTIST. None of them are "liberal" -- they don't even know the meaning of the word. They are all control-freak, oppressive leftists who don't believe in freedom. We need to take back the word liberal as it was created from these rotten leftist propagandists, who pervert the meaning of words.
Is it any surprise
Submitted by c5then on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 11:59am.
That with thinking like this in the media itself, the US has dropped to #27 on the "freedom of the press" list?
These stooges just want to silence anybody they disagree with and the consequenses be damned.
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
How may we define
Submitted by John B. on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 12:07pm.
How may we define 'extremist'? Where is the line drawn? According to MSNBC and Cathy Areu, an extremist is a person with whom they disagree.
Once you become an extremist, you lose your First Amendment right. Apparently, that is MSNBC's policy, and I would defy them to deny it. I would also defy Cathy Areu to deny she is an intolerant bigot who believes it is right to completely censor any opinion with which she disagrees.
What has become of America that we should now be saddled with these speech Nazis?
extreme
Submitted by angelann1 on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 12:15pm.
She is definitely an extremist!!!!
O'Reilly's show
Submitted by hughg on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 1:01pm.
I don't even allow guests in my house to view trash like MSxxxxx. I'm a MAC OS X person , I don't run MS software except in a virtual shell. Like my taste in OS's , I filter heavily any MSM. I consider it as a virus on humanity's operating system. I reached a point in life that I said" There must be something better than Microsoft, if not I'll lay my computers down, for I have fought with buggy software for 20+ years".
I bought 1 and then 2 MACs. Bingo.
Just because NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, and a trail of other progressives existed first, that doesn't give them the honor of good programming and especially judgment of others, including me. Orgs and institutions that judge when in the public eye have a certain responsibility for integrity.
The MSM lost it's integrity along with PBS's long ago. Truth is the rarest form of speech in America today.
Areu, Dr. Marc Lamont Sanford Hill, and...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 3:08pm.
...Sally Kohn(head) are all reliable libertards that Bill uses as punching bags. The measure is if they can say something so stultifyingly, liberally, stoopid, that it makes you want to throw a brick at your flat screen, then they are in. Who-an Who-illiams is fairly tame compared to these others. Props to FNC for putting these far, far, left viewpoints on their network. As MESSDNC has shown by their treatment of Pat Buchannan, they are interested in debate as long as it is of the "bobble-head" variety.
Extremist, not an extremist,
Submitted by PeskyDane on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 3:10pm.
Extremist, not an extremist, sounds like she has that hamster spinning pretty hard.
Media has an agenda and taboo topics
Submitted by lrgon on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 3:48pm.
They are framing the argument around the thesis that anyone that has views as Pat Buchanan's will be labeled as a racist.
That dishonest label placed on Pat will stick on him and be repeated by every deadhead liberal with a mic and a tv show. He was labelled as such when he ran against Bush 41 and the label has stuck. They called him a Nazi and a Klansman but despite those labels he had a national audience.
Pat's worse sin was to call foreign interventionism and endless wars a policy crafted by fools like Bush I and II and now Obama.
Buchanan is being tar and featherd by liberal haters but they won't let up on the hate building propaganda until they come after all conservatives and Christians and anyone they deem an "enemy of the state."
Liberal TV pundits can't do it so it's all talk right? That they are yellow as a canary is ture enough but they are just part of the great American swindle to strip us of our rights as Americans. Congress will pass the laws and the already in place infrastructure will do the job these seething jealous liberal slobs daydream about doing to us.
The congress passed a few laws and built a bureaucratic infrastructure to accomplish that and with a fair amount of ease,the DHS armed now with NDAA "indefinite detention" power can begin the process of making America "safe from terrorism."
The super security junkies within the GOP and in the Democrat party pass laws to strip citizens of their citizenship and ship them off to Tortureland.It's all designed they tellus to make us safe.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-3166&tab=summary
http://rt.com/usa/news/expatriation-act-citizenship-ndaa-737/
Rush Limbaugh was correct when he said on his radio show that the reason "GITMO wasn't closed by Obama was to put us in there."
When the deportation truck arrives in your neighborhood remember the politicians on stage who said "we can't round up millions of illegals and deport them."
Is the NDAA a taboo topic here?
people hear word tribes and assume racism
Submitted by dmacleo on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 6:34pm.
we all know only black people have tribes.
no indian ever lived in a tribe......
or something.
bastards look for a reason to be offended IMO.
The Party of The Perpetually Offended
Submitted by ThePickle on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 6:50pm.
I refer to them as "The Party of The Perpetually Offended". These are the types that see racism, sexism and several other brands of -isms wherever they look. They live their lives at a slow simmer threatening, at the slightest provocation, to boil over into full blown OFFENDED mode.
These are the "folks", to use the Presidents vernacular, that would screech moan and beat their breasts if a Middle Aged White Man were to refer to "black' shoes and the President in the same sentence, as they would be certain that the use of the word 'black' by this particular White person was a not so subtle attempt to cast derision on the current President, despite the fact that the statement, 'The President was wearing black shoes', was nothing more than a statement of an observable fact
In other words...Kooks.
The Dingbat from WaPo
Submitted by JanineC on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 9:09pm.
doesn't care to hear what O'Reilly is saying...She doesn't want to hear the truth--she made up her mind that she is going to call Buchanan a white extremist no matter what anybody says. It is the way lefties think...they have no logic or reason.
stupid twit
Submitted by Injest on Sun, 01/29/2012 - 3:33am.
AREU: I do not think so.
Well this is believable, she does not think, like we couldn't tell!
Uhm what ever happened to the lefts free speech moto
"The First Amendment really was designed to protect a debate at the fringes. You don't need the courts to protect speech that everybody agrees with, because that speech will be tolerated. You need a First Amendment to protect speech that people regard as intolerable or outrageous or offensive — because that is when the majority will wield its power to censor or suppress, and we have a First Amendment to prevent the government from doing that.
I don't like Pat very much
Submitted by Mark81150 on Sun, 01/29/2012 - 2:08pm.
But what MSNBC did was evil. He has as much right to speak as the obscenely stupid liberal trainwrek that is the MSNBC propaganda mil. The hard left doesn't even hide it anymore, they lie without shame, deny truth with a sneer,..
They are openly at war with anyone who isn't in their inbred tribe of lunatics.
They push till they have nothing left to do, but.. and they lack the stones to go that far.. unless they can hire it done.
it's not a wonder they killed the concept of shame. God knows it was the last check on their antics, and now even that is gone.