Newsweek Writer Touts Huntsman as 'Rising Star,' Sneers Palin-Bachmann Era Needs to End
At the end of the 11 am hour on Wednesday, MSNBC fill-in anchor Milissa Rehberger interviewed Newsweek/Daily Beast contributor Melissa Lafsky Wall to discuss Newsweek's list of political "rising stars." The funniest pick was one-percent-in-the-polls GOP candidate Jon Huntsman, who Wall said "seems patient... seems willing to build gradually and bring his name to a national level." Many viewers probably heard echoes of Dana Carvey's President Bush saying Dan Quayle is "still gaining acceptance."
In noting New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez, Wall couldn't avoid slamming other female conservative GOP stars: "The era of the Palins and Bachmanns needs to come to an end." Is that Republican opinion, or Newsweek's? Guess. [Video below the break.]
Rehberger asked Wall how Huntsman be a "rising star" when he's already apparently risen? Wall replied with a really unconvincing thesis on how he's never really risen, but might eventually:
He's always been a little bit of the dark horse....He's never emerged as a mainstream sort of GOP candidate along the lines of a Newt Gingrich or a Mitt Romney. That being said, he is someone that both liberals and conservatives respect and seem to like, and he seems patient. He seems willing to build gradually and bring his name to a national level. So I think he is a rising star in the sense that he does not necessarily seem to demand the same level of attention as a Romney, but he very well could.
The magazine's slideshow also has a laughable summary about you shouldn't let Huntsman's bad polling tell you he isn't a dynamic rising star:
Don't be fooled by his low poll numbers in the 2012 GOP race. The former Utah governor and ambassador to China might be losing the short game, but Huntsman is playing the long game. He'll come out of the race with much higher name recognition, right-wingers are coming around to his conservative bona fides, and liberals see in him a man they may disagree with but whom they can respect.
Wall called Susana Martinez "a real force on the political spectrum," whatever that means, before slamming Palin and Bachmann:
She is a member of the GOP. The GOP is really looking for a powerful female leader to emerge. The era of the Palins and Bachmanns needs to come to an end. So looking down the line, she could be a very attractive candidate in 2016, and there’s even talk of putting her on the short list of running mates for 2012.
South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley was also on Newsweek's list, but did not come up on MSNBC.
Rehberger really showed why she's merely a holiday-week fill-in by noting that Newsweek also found four rising stars in the halls of Congress, Paul Ryan, Kevin McCarthy, Tim Scott, and Jim Jordan. She then asked bizarrely, "We've heard a lot about Paul Ryan, but who else on the list is, do you think, going to make it to Capitol Hill at some point?"
Um, they've all made it to Capitol Hill.
The Newsweek reporter failed to correct this whopper, babbling "Jim Jordan could be a very interesting candidate. Um, he has had a lot of, he's joined the debate much more in the past year or two. Um, again, a lot will depend on how things play out in the 2012 election, and who really emerges as a leader in the debates. So I think a lot will come forth in the next few months."
Could she be any vaguer? A skeptic watching MSNBC might think that neither of these women know a cotton-picking thing about these Republican congressmen. Wall didn't seem to even read the little captions Newsweek wrote to explain who Jim Jordan is -- the head of the stalwart conservative House Republican Study Committee.
For fervent MRC followers, the name Melissa Lafsky might ring a bell. She won our "Quote of the Year" in 2009 for bizarrely wondering on The Huffington Post if Chappaquiddick drowning victim Mary Jo Kopechne would have felt her death was "worth it" to become a "catalyst" for Ted Kennedy's glorious Senate career:
“Mary Jo wasn’t a right-wing talking point or a negative campaign slogan....We don’t know how much Kennedy was affected by her death, or what she’d have thought about arguably being a catalyst for the most successful Senate career in history....[One wonders what] Mary Jo Kopechne would have had to say about Ted’s death, and what she’d have thought of the life and career that are being (rightfully) heralded. Who knows — maybe she’d feel it was worth it.”
[Hat tip: Dan Isett]
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Newsweek is still around?
Submitted by Van Halen on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 6:47pm.
Newsweek is still around?
Yeah, who knew? The whole
Submitted by jdhawk on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 8:25pm.
Yeah, who knew? The whole "magazine" still isn't worth $1 dollar - for the whole magazine!
In regard to this article - that dog won't Huntsman . . . . Get it? Dog - Huntsman . . . . Forget it. lol
Paging Dr. Fine!
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 6:36am.
I'm pretty sure you have to be an administrator in a doctor's office in order to apply for a subscription to Newsweek.
DFTT
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 6:43am.
To boost their subscription numbers, they also supply dentist offices.
I for one am so done with
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 6:51pm.
I for one am so done with quitter Palin. She is fine as person, and what not, but as a Politican and a political leader she is a loser. A loser on the national ticket to boot.
She had to resign as Gov of Alaska because she could not stand the heat. Not a Churchill moment to say the least. Palin is a relentless self promoter and now a reality star, pitching more puff TV shows about herself.
Bachman is another matter, and most Republicans don't share the opinions of Newsweek on her.
But intelligent Republicans understand the long-term damage that Palin does, and so does the media, which does stories on Palin all the time, because she damages the party.
When the going get tough, Palin does not reload, does not stand ground, instead the lady cashes out, and retreats, runs away from her elected office. That is nothing for Republican women to be proud of.
Palin = Retreat from office, its indisputable.
Fools can makes excuses for running away from responsibility.
Go ahead and defend Palin, but most of the ardent Palin defenders understand how she is corrosive to conservatives and winning elections.
Fine Job...
Submitted by tvhall on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 7:04pm.
Of playing the conservatuive (as we asume readers here are) and savaging a modern icon of the right.
Your post Tom, is so uninformed it is pathetic.
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 7:19pm.
Palin has done more for the Conservative movement in the last 4 years, then any 10 people you can name. Get a freakin grip will ya!
Boudin, I know you believe
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:10pm.
Boudin, I know you believe your own BS to the exclusion of considering anything beyond your narrow field of view, so I can solve your question with a single name. Rush Limbaugh has done far more than the retreating Palin.
Palin caved as Governor, and would cave again in any other elected office. She is a quitter first, a team player never....at least she admits she is rogue.
Team players in the GOP
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:13pm.
are the problem.
No baker
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:16pm.
You cut yourself off at the knees with your claim that people who support Palin are, by default, stupid.
Cool Arrow, I did not claim,
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:37pm.
Cool Arrow, I did not claim, as you spin, that supporters of Palin are stupid. At the most I say, that people who think their support of Palin helps Republicans or Conservatives fight and win within the political structure of the USA, have foolish thinking. Palin helps only herself. (Example: When she was doing a bus trip in the same location as actual candidates for office).
Busted, Baker
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:53pm.
"But intelligent Republicans understand the long-term damage that Palin does, and so does the media"- tombaker
Must you insult our powers of understanding so blatantly? When you preface a claim with "intelligent Republicans understand", an observation of what "UNintelligent Republicans understand is more than just implied.
Your small brain might scroll up and note I referred to your observation by its default observation.
You're far too shallow to get away with veiled barbs.
Good evening tombaker
Submitted by cocodrie on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:25pm.
It appears that you got your BS degree at the Chris Matthews Institute of Willful Ignorance. Did you major in spitting or tingling?
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
One thing is for sure
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:31pm.
He minored in lying
cocodrie, What is it now,
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:41pm.
cocodrie, What is it now, Palin did not quit as Governor?
Reminds me of cut and paste customer support. All the attack without any thinking or specifics, just puffery
You're like a broken record tompop
Submitted by cocodrie on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:51pm.
you keep playing the same groove over and over. You just described all of your posts. No thinking just venom.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Hey liar,
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:53pm.
How about you back up you lie that Palin resigned because she didnt think she was qualified. Come on now,
ok tombaker*
Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:01pm.
I am going to offer you an opportunity for a little insight as to the real reasons you hate Sarah Palin.
Before she ever considered running for public office, she worked her way through college. She married a man who was a commercial fisherman in the most hostile fishing environment in the world. She worked with him on his fishing runs. She GAVE BIRTH to five children. She lives in a state where the average winter is 25 ft of snow and temperatures 20 degrees below zero. You cant drive your little Toyota to the supermarket in the dead of winter in Alaska, so one must prepare all summer for what is coming. She smokes fish, shoots moose, ( good shot too I heard) cuts firewood, prepares lessons for homeschooling during the most dangerous times in winter. A mother must be prepared months ahead to even survive this kind of environment.
Then she becomes mayor of an Alaskan city while raising her children, her husband gone for months at a time on his fishing boat. Long nights awake, fearful for her son who is fighting in Afghanistan. Devastated by the fact that one of her children is disabled and she fears for the difficult life ahead for him.
She is then elected to Governor of the toughest state in the union. Who in Alaska would even vote for a wussie lil man or woman? She won by the biggest margin ever in the history of Alaska. For a hobby, she and her husband go dog sledding for 1000 miles, climb mountains, long hikes, reveling in the beauty of her backyard.
Just these accomplishments as a strong, independent, assertive woman is greater than most men can even imagine in their greatest fantasies.
NOW, lets look at her political accomplishments....Get the picture tommy?
There might be more cajun
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:10pm.
Subcutaneously, tombaker might think if his mom had tried harder, dad might have remained on the straight and narrow.
I'm just thinking his hatred of women is a bit too pronounced.
Not so liar
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:57pm.
Rush dont stump for many folks, Palin does. Even Rush/Levin and many others have suggested Palin has done more for the conservative movement in the last few years then anyone.
So come on liar, where are the statements Palin made claiming she wasnt qualified to be Governor.
And Odumbo
Submitted by bobsmom on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 7:43pm.
did not cash out? I guess I really need this explained to me. A nobody, leaves a Senate seat, after having done nothing to make this country (or his constituency) any better, to run for an office that he was/is totally unqualified for, and Sarah Palin is the quitter? Sorry Tom, if I had worked my patootie off as Governor of a huge state, and actually made a difference in my citizens lives, then had the misfortune to have been asked to be McLame's VP, and was patriotic enough to go for it, only to have everything in my life, including my son's diapers sifted through in the hopes that I would look like an idiot, to me, stepping down from that position to save my family isn't "quitting" in my book. Sorry. I don't call that quitting, I call that good sense, and a loving mother and wife. I, myself, am tougher than a bull's nuts, and I'm not sure I'd have lasted as long as she did with that many people/journalists/media out to slaughter me. While I think she'd make a wonderful President, that I could be proud of, I don't want her to run, because it would break my heart to see her family put through it again.
Sweetie, she keeps showing up in public, so the "retreat" argument sucks wind. And please, no need to repeat the oxymoronic "intelligent Republicans" meme, "intelligent Conservatives" is the only thing that makes real sense.
bobsmom, you make a great
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:01pm.
bobsmom, you make a great argument for a woman that is not able to handle the duties of public office in service to her constituents. Great neither of you can handle the duty.
Palin did not have the stomach to handle the pressures. Most of these pressures were nothing more that puffery, but that puffery and fear, caused Palin to retreat. And she had a million dollar advance on her book, so don't spin out the BS she could not afford to stand her ground.
Palin caved, left her post, said someone else should do it. It is what it is. Conservatives don't have a party last I checked, so if you want to bash Republicans fine, but then yours is just an exercise in BS, like it or not, unless you just want to be a pundit, you need to gain office. Cashed out, yes, she goes where she is paid, only. Protecting her family by putting them on reality TV, and so she resigned office because she did not want to put her family out there. Nice logic
Pathetic Tom
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:07pm.
We used to have another Palin and Woman basher around here, I certainly hope they dont wait that long to ban you.
That was steve05, and he, too, was---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:14pm.
so totally deranged by Sarah Palin that he could do nothing but rant and rave about what he perceived as her failures.
About the only difference between he and tombaker are the usernames.
MD
Palin, her family
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:15pm.
Have been stalked, ridiculed, lied about viciously. Yet She and her family have taken all the shots, and have fired back with facts and passion with the precision of a Navy Seal. But ol Tom sits around like a putz from his moms basement repeating the very slanders.
Your old news Tom, the media beat you to those moldy talking points.
Boudin, you make great
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:54pm.
Boudin, you make great arguments for a quitter, who resigned from elected duties. Palin is no Navy Seal, that is an insult. Palin walked away without any reasons beyond her own personal lack of will to continue faced with the challenges of being Governor.
Boudin you can spare yourself thinking up more personal attacks, that stuff works on Palin.
Come on liar,
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:01pm.
Wheres the proof? Now another lie
Palin walked away without any reasons
Flat out lie, she clearly said why she resigned. BTW, what happend to the 15 lawsuits after she resigned liar?
Tombaker is a Navy Seal
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:04pm.
I notice you didn't say "That is an insult to Navy Seals", but said "That is an insult".
Nah, ol' tombaker ain't a SEAL, he just ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:14pm.
blew one.
I mean, ruptured a seal as a result of his Palin hatred.
MD
tombaker is an idiot that thinks insulting his own kin is smart.
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 1:57pm.
Yeah, that is the way to win friends and influence people. Insult them and insult a woman that is not even running for office. She is officially a private citizen, has been for years. Yeah, the name tombaker ain't lower than whalepoop around here, now is it?
That said, now on to all my buddies that I love wit all my hearts.
Guys, now don't get mad and take this with the utmost of respectednesses and in the good humor of the nitpickiness that is Teh Veet. Here goes ---
It's Navy SEALS guys, SEAL is a acronym. Sea Air Land. They go anywars. Hence, the three types of matter.
The Navy Seal is that thing on all the Navy flags and documents and my tushie. Ok. Not my tushie. Just kidding. Din't go that overboard. Do got one that sits about 2 foot tall out next to the flagpole in the front yard. Oh, and my coffee cup.
A Navy seal is a trained mammal that has been trained to detect mines and stuff.
Ok. Done with all the edjucatin's. Luvums and Saaaaaalute!
Navy Seals in the news.
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 01/27/2012 - 3:28am.
Will sea lion terrorist trackers help clear waters off Iran?
Wait. Dang. Not SEALs or Seals but Sea Lions. Sorry. Carry on.
Stop feeding these trolls!
Submitted by MightyMouth on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:11pm.
I mean it folks! MM has spoken.
Palin resigned office,
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:16pm.
Palin resigned office, because she believe she was not skilled enough to handle the job in light of the pressures of the duties of office. She is a quitter. This shocks you to the core, want even the notion banned? Sorry you can not handle the truth, and to think that there was a time you sought out the truth. Days gone.
One-trick PopTech
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:55pm.
At least your predecessor had more than one facet to display.
Liar, prove it Tom
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:18pm.
because she believe she was not skilled enough
Link or slink liar. Palin is still the best person for any political position
Palin resigned because she
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:58pm.
Palin resigned because she was ill equipped to deal with the pressures of office. If she was able, she would not have resigned. If you need me hold your hand and explain that you, I will take a pass.
If Palin was the best person for any political office as you profess, she would still be in office. Palin could have worked to get the oil in Alaska tapped to bring down the 48, but no....she just quit. Palin can not use the power of elected office for conservative goals, if she resigns.
Where the proof liar?
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:02pm.
Come on one trick pony boy, back up your slander.
tom
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:28pm.
Wow, nothing like answering an argument with insults. Are you completely oblivious to Obama's attack machine? She was concerned that the flood of lawsuits against her would interfere with the business of running the government of Alaska. She knew she could count on her Lt. Governor to carry on her policies.
The EPA was already on the attack by closing parts of Alaska to drilling, as punishment to Palin. Similar to denying Texas a space shuttle museum even though Houston was home to the program.
No, she had nothing to fear from Obama.
Radical79, you make excuses
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:06pm.
Radical79, you make excuses for Palin to retreat against the Obama attack machine. Yours and Palin's mistake. A skilled Governor would have stood ground, not retreat, worked with others to get things done.
You make it sound as if Palin was bullied by Obama to quit. She caved, gave up under the pressure you portrayed above.
tomparrot wants a cracker
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:11pm.
I am waiting, tomparrot, for you to actually indicate that you do in fact think of anything else.
Oh, that, and for you to actually back up your arguments.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
tom
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:11pm.
Palin did what was good for her state, not what was good for herself. She put the welfare of her state above her self interest. Standing her ground would have cost Alaska a great deal of money, and the attacks would not have ended.
Obama IS a bully. Make no mistake about it. Do you forget how she was savaged as a vice presidential candidate? Are you unaware of how obama and his people interact with the liberal media and tell them how to attack his opponents?
tb, Are you aware of the word frivolous
Submitted by upcountrywater on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:47pm.
ethics
“It is amazing to me that anyone could think that, let alone put their name behind it and once again seek to distract state officials and needlessly increase their work load. The state is losing the value of some of its expenditures when public servants are pulled away from important assignments to deal with far-fetched and mean-spirited allegations,” added Nizich.
Egregious
Activist Andrée McLeod is charging the administration of Sean Parnell with an ethics violation for improper disclosure of information. She is alleging former Sarah Palin aide Frank Bailey has had unfettered access to Palin’s e-mails for an insider book he’s putting together with two co-writers.
boiler plate lib spew
Catch up there tombaker .here's some more
and more
Lots more
You Didn't Build That.
Tom dont want to hear it UCW
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:57pm.
His PDS wont allow it
Perhaps you misunderstand Palin's resignation?
Submitted by CKA in Red State USA on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 7:56pm.
Sarah Palin did not think the heat was too hot in the kitchen.
She perceived that were she to remain governor, Obama and his administration, and Obama's shills in the once-mainstream media, would punish Alaska with their actions and words.
Personally, I think it took great courage for her to resign.
By the way, your global generalization "intelligent Republicans understand" is laughable in many ways. One, it's so outlandish that it drains any credibility you may have. Two, there are conservatives and Tea Party members who are not Republicans. Three, given that for the past few years, but particularly now with the agenda to install Romney, the Republicans have earned well that moniker "The Party of Stupid." And, four, the Republican Party's misogyny toward Palin and Bachmann is only slightly less offensive than the Democrat/progressive/liberal/leftist Party's.
Ditto for "most of the ardent Palin defenders understand how she is corrosive to conservatives" being laughable. Again, for you to make such a fallacious statement drains whatever credibility you may have had.
And it ain't the conservatives who have a problem with Palin: It's the RINOs, the Republican establishment, the conservative punditocracy as well as the DPLLs and the pimpstream media.
Hear, hear!!
Submitted by bobsmom on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 8:02pm.
Thanks, CKA, we're on the same page, and I'll take "Idiots Who Call Palin A Quitter" for the win, Alex.
Troll.
Submitted by MightyMouth on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 11:07pm.
I see a 404 in your future.
I don't
Submitted by bobsmom on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 10:46am.
know what I've done to earn your obvious dislike. Stupidly, for some reason it bothers me. I have just joined in on political conversations on a couple of websites within the last few months for the first time, and apparently, something I've said has been a"troll" dogwhistle to you. Hopefully, I'll figure it out. But in the meanwhile, I fully intend to continue airing my opinions freely as does everyone else on this site that I've had the pleasure to read for the last few years. If I get the impression that many others feel the way you do, I'll just go away, I don't get called a "plant" or a "troll" on other sites where I post. Thanks. And I don't even know what a 404 is.
My suspicions...
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 10:49am.
Looking at this, I think he intended his remarks for tomparrot, not you. Something went wrong somewhere...
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Thanks
Submitted by bobsmom on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 11:14am.
for trying to make me feel better, but he was stalking me on another thread as well. I identified myself as a conservative (which apparently all trolls do every time they post), as well as made a remark about Obama (again, apparently all trolls "lambaste" Obama in every thread as also). Whatever I did set off his whack-a-troll-ometer and I'm not sure if the bell can be "unrung", if you will. Oh well, I'll learn I hope. I am relatively new to this game and haven't received the SOP manual with the preferred terminology list in it yet!
Bob, I just happen to sell
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 11:20am.
Bob, I just happen to sell manuals. For a paltry sum of 9.95 and a recurring 4.99 per month I will set you up with all you need to know.
LOL
Submitted by bobsmom on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 11:34am.
Thanks for the much needed laugh!
CKA, just canned garbage
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 8:42pm.
CKA, just canned garbage attacks is your total insight, is it?
1. As you said, Palin believed that her skills as Governor would be overwhelmed by the other political party. She could not defend her State's rights. She could not defend against her own paranoia that Alaska would be punished.
2. Courage to resign? She quit, she retreated. I can not help your new definition of courage
CKA if you can not deal with the facts just call it all stupid or false, without attempting to show it....oh wait you already did that
tombaker, you obviously missed out on ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 8:55pm.
hearing the famous statement, "You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts".
Your Palin Derangement Syndrome is most obvious; and negates anything you put forward about the woman.
Absolutely laughable that you would accuse someone else of using 'canned garbage attacks' as that is all you have in your quiver.
MD
Matthew Dean. You are not
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:19pm.
Matthew Dean. You are not saying anything, because you can not refute anything, Matty, you are just noise. Be brave and make a point already beyond calling people names because you don't have the facts on your side.
refute anything,
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:23pm.
You cant back up squat, and you lied about Palin as well.
Boudin,
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:16pm.
Boundin:
There is nothing beyond the simple facts that Palin could not handle the governorship, decided it would be better for her to retreat, and she quit the Governorship early by tendering her resignation. Where is the lie? You can not seek the truth when you ignore simple reality.
Back up you lies Tom
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:21pm.
Or blow
Try and be a bit more truthful, tombaker, ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:01pm.
as the only "fact" you have presented that is correct, is that Palin resigned the governorship of Alaska.
ALL else you put forth is nothing more than your opinion, period.
As you have neither the balls to admit it, nor the facts on your side, all you can do is obfuscate.
The truth about Palin's travails have been posted many times on threads here, and it is quite transparent that you have put your dislike of the woman ahead of anything resembling even pretending to accept the realities that occurred.
Why bother to post refutations that you would not accept even if paid to do so?
Take note that you are pretty much a voice in the wilderness on this site; there is a substantial reason for that.
You are a Palin hater.
QED
MD
matthewdean: There is nothing
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:24pm.
matthewdean:
There is nothing beyond the simple facts that Palin could not handle the governorship, decided it would be better for her to retreat, and she quit the Governorship early by tendering her resignation. and that sends you into such a tizzy?
Funny that you think if one is paid, that is a reason to refute the truth of the matter LOLOLOL Yes you are correct you can not pay me to refute the truth.
tombaker: There is nothing---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:43pm.
that CAN be said to remove the PDS from your head; even if someone offered to pay you cash money to do just that
You so cannot get beyond saying that Palin "couldn't handle" the job, and that she "retreated" from it, that you couldn't even begin to consider the 'why' of her decision.
It is the one-sided-ness of your tirades that make your posts so laughable.
MD
Wow, so your going to double down, eh
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 8:55pm.
So go ahead big guy, answer the question. What 10 politicians have had more influence for conservative value then Palin? Palin is out front taking the hits, and your here whining like a lib, good grief
tombaker's obsessive devotion
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 8:56pm.
Do you think about ANYTHING else other than how much you hate Palin? My Shahinshah, if I asked you to write a 1000 word essay on (enter subject here), the ONLY thing you would write, NO MATTER the subject, is "Palin's a quitter" 333 times.
Do us a favor. TALK ABOUT WHO YOU LIKE, BECAUSE HEARING YOU WHINE ABOUT PALIN EVERY DAMN TIME YOU POST IS F*****G BORING.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I was going to comment on this story
Submitted by bkeyser on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 6:54pm.
but everything I wrote could be deemed offensive to people with learning disabilities. And I don't wish to be offensive.
Just like Oblamercare...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 6:59pm.
...If you Liberals like your Huntsman, you can keep your Huntsman. Why not draft him to primary against the "Teleprompter In Chief"?
Was it not Huntsman who was
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 7:07pm.
Was it not Huntsman who was ambassador to China when the hard drives from Los Alamos Labs went missing, over to China, then show up behind a office copier machine?
Huntsman agenda is the same as the guy who sent him to China the last time. ie President Obama.
I just hope the election results will soon get these tiny polling candidates off the stage. He needs to be dis-invited, along with other margin of error polling candidates. If not Huntsman will stay in the entire time, just to get on stage.
Your nasty, and unnecessary shots at Palin, pretty much---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 7:33pm.
rule out any posts of yours standing out as being in any way comprehensive, incisive, or credible.
You are, though, throughout your minimal posts here, consistent.
You are consistently an ass.
MD
put your head in the sand to
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 8:47pm.
put your head in the sand to anything that is not regurgitated for baby bird to swallow. Its a fact that Palin retreated and because of her lack of ability, thought it best to resign.
Sorry that you think that is some sore of nasty remark, but Palin took elected office, and could not handle the job. She failed to complete her term of office. It is what it is. You seem to think that is nasty.
Come on Tom,
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 8:57pm.
Who has more influence for the conservative movement the Palin? Must be hundreds, thousands. So go ahead and name a few?
We get it already, tombaker!
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 8:58pm.
We get it tombaker, the only way you will achieve an orgasm is when that evil bitch, who apparently is responsible for ALL of America's ills, stops breathing.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Unsane: When you can not
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:32pm.
Unsane:
When you can not speak the truth, go obscene. I hope you are not exposed to any children unattended, with such reprehensiblness as you display here. Nothing I have said, warrants your extreme.
Your ranting about Palin, tombaker, is what is ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:46pm.
obscene.
MD
tomparrot wanna cracker!
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 11:24pm.
Actually, the fact you are a freaking parrot more than justifies my comment. What else do you want me to conclude?
You can't speak the truth either. No, repeating "Palin caved", "Palin couldn't handle the pressure", "Palin is a quitter" 500 trillion times does not make it the truth. If you are so positive you have the truth on your side, you wouldn't mind backing up your statements, would you?
You can't. So, you repeat the same tired lines ad nauseum in the hopes they magically become the truth. And you whine when called on your tiresome crap.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Unsane, you live up to your
Submitted by tombaker on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 5:16pm.
Unsane, you live up to your name eh?
Palin resigned in a shameful acquiescence to pressures from liberal Democrats. Some else said her, she feared Obama, that is their view on why she should have resigned. Resignation of a state Governorship for fear of the President would be simple cowardice. Palin surprised everyone when she resigned, no other Republicans felt she should. Palin said the Lt Gov was just as capable as her, reflecting that she brought nothing special to the Governorship.
Go look at what she said when she resigned, you surely have the ability to do that. You don't need me to spoon feed you.
1. Palin quit office. She is a quitter.
2. Palin claimed the pressure were too much. She cited a bunch of worthless meaningless ethics charges. Which all fell away by themselves. Welcome to modern politics. Faced with this did she stand her ground? No she retreated, caved, resigned, ran away. Your attempts to deny this is pathetic.
How else do I need to back it up. Did you watch her resignation? Did you read why she did it. You understand at the time of her resignation she already had a million dollar advance on her book.
Palin is a weak Politician who could not handle the duties of the tiny population Alaska, she quit because she felt she could not succeed, and that others could do better. Just image if she were President, she would fold just the same, shirk her duty and walk away.
Look she knows her limits, her failed Governorship was it. She did not run for President because why? Because she is all talk, a pundit.
Would you like to explain why she retreated and quit office? Make excuses for why she went AWOL? All you have is excuses for why she is a quitter.
tb, Only thing is true in that post
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 5:47pm.
under #2.... She cited a bunch of worthless meaningless ethics charges.
Ethics charges frivolous litigation brought on by , your buddies the democrats.
To save Alaska some money she changed her name....and “Voila! the ethics charges went away.
She likes saving Alaska money..
To bad you will not comment on any this
An Additional truth: Unsane, you live up to your name eh?
You Didn't Build That.
braaawk! tomparrot wanna cracker! braawk!
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 6:21pm.
About your comment about my screen name: thank you. I am deeply touched.
Anyways, tomparrot, I realize that you think you type your anti-Palin ranting 500 nonillion more times that it will magically become truthful. Unfortunately, you are simply going to HAVE to back up your argument. You HAVE to. If you cannot, you are just reduced to being a mindless parrot. At this rate I am tempted to find out where you live so that I can have a C-5 airdrop 36 pallets worth of saltines on your residence.
You hate with an overwhelming, intense passion, that much is clear. Whether it is because you feel jilted like a schoolboy turned down by the hot cheerleader or whether you fear/hate women as other posters have indicated I will leave to others. But the fact of the matter is that the only way you can be made happy, sexually or otherwise, is if you have the opportunity to stand on Palin's throat for an hour.
Save it: if you are the ONLY person on NB who knows the truth, as you repeatedly boast, you can actually back up your argument instead of being a freaking parrot. Quit showing me that you are proud to be an employee of the Department of Redundancy Department and get off your ass and BACK UP YOUR ARGUMENT. For if you cannot, parroting isn't going to help you in the slightest.
And, just as proof that you in fact think of ANYTHING else other than your obsessive devotion, Palin (and crackers): find the courage to get your brain off of that single track and TELL US WHO YOU LIKE INSTEAD IF NOT THIS WOMAN WHO ISN'T EVEN RUNNING FOR ANYTHING.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
That is absolute bullshit, tombaker, but then, ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 8:59pm.
that is all you have ever posted.
As far as nasty, why, that would be your "thought" process, meager as it is.
MD
come on guys*
Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:14pm.
Leave tommy alone. See, drsam would do better but I will try to explain. Men like tommy hate strong, independent, accomplished women like Palin to the point of obsession for a simple reason. Women, like her, agitate tommy's already poor self image and lack of masculinity due to his own physical inadequacies. It's a sad combination and life long mental distress. So men like tommy go on the interwaves and there...they can be aggressive and all macho. Face to face, comparative accomplishments would be devastating to men like him.
So be gentle with tommy. Pauve bete'.
cajun---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:16pm.
Your post demonstrates the need for a "like button".
MD
matthew*
Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:31pm.
Accolades not necessary. This was too easy. Look above at his reply to bobsmom. Just below the surface of his PDS is a general dislike for all assertive, intelligent, and accomplished women. If Blonde and Wrathful One was around this thread, you would really see the vitriol against women ratchet up.
Is motherbelt around?...;-)
cajun2, LOL seriously? So
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:37pm.
cajun2, LOL seriously? So much fluster, and all of this is because I think an accomplished Governor should be able to hold office in these times, without need to retreat, give excuses, and resign office.
tombaker*
Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:45pm.
All this "fluster" is because you fail to recognize a simple truth. For some people, in fact most women, put aside ego and self interests and actually do for others. I know, so simple a concept to accept and tells me you know very little about women.
canjun2, nice try. You
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 11:10pm.
canjun2, nice try. You funny.
tommy boy*
Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 11:42pm.
Another TELL. There is only one re-tread that calls me canjun....;-)
Great post, Caj.
Submitted by UpNorth on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:36pm.
Like MD, I wish we had a like button.
Good evening cajun
Submitted by cocodrie on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:42pm.
Couldn't agree more. However you left out mauvais tete de merde.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Hey,
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:46pm.
Be nice now : ]
Poor lamb!
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 6:26pm.
Good one, caj.
Another fave of mine....pauvre petit choux.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Hey blonde*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 6:46pm.
Since chou has many different meanings, I assume you are thinking of "lil cabbage head"..right?....LOL
It fits.
Little Bitty Quiver
Submitted by kilrod on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:30pm.
Howdy MD: You mentioned ol thombaker did'nt have much in his quiver, but you were nice enough not to say how small his "little bitty quiver" must be.~!~
ROFLMAO~!~
(grins) kilrod "the Birther"
If an unborn child cannot trust you, why should I,??
Hey, kilrod---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:06pm.
I probably should have used quiver as a verb rather than as a noun - seeing as how that is what tombaker does when Palin's name is mentioned --- quiver.
Unknown though, if the quiver is caused by fear, or by hatred. :o)
MD
matthewdean: So you want to
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 10:55pm.
matthewdean:
So you want to continue to say that Palin did not resign? Well she did, in fact. She simply was not up to the job. Others here have posted because she feared Obama. Quitting is not something I think is strong. When it came to the challenge, Palin did not have what it takes to succeed.
Sorry you cannot deal with the truth, nor refute it.
Where did Matt say that?
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 11:00pm.
What the heck is it with you and not being able to tell the truth?
Boudin---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 11:04pm.
this fellow tombaker apparently either missed my 9:01 p.m. post; or, as he so often does, just ignores facts he doesn't like.
MD
Yep,
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 11:24pm.
Ol Tom cant be bothered with details. He acts like a spurned school boy, after the pretty girl laughed at his advances.
Me, I wish we had folks in DC with the convictions and courage of Sarah Palin.
Boudin,
Submitted by tombaker on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 5:24pm.
All you want to do is make excuses for Palin fleeing office in a massive public retreat from her elected duties. Nothing I have said is controversial to the facts.
When challenged (worthless challengers too) Palin did not have the conviction to hold ground and stay in office. You say it was correct for her to resign.
Courage? GMAFB She sulked away. Put on a surprised new conference, and quit. That is courage to you.
You are so invested in your concocted love affair with a Politician, that you can not accept what happened. You rewrite of history is not the truth at all, nor do you seek it. Perhaps you will feel better if you insult me personally. Perhaps. But it does not make your disillusion of the history of Palin any more real, or true.
NOW!!!
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 9:54pm.
TOMMYYYYYYYYYYY WANNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAA CRACKERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(and you better give him his cracker or he and his parrot buddies are gonna go Hitchcock on your asses)
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Is that you, PopTech?
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:21pm.
LOL - Looks like the founder of the He-man Woman-Haters Club might be back amongst us.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Dave,
Submitted by Trix Rabbit on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 11:46pm.
tombaker is none other than henrietta mierda, or henry clay.
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
Trix,
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 9:37pm.
LOL - That explains a lot.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Head in the sand?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:35pm.
You even quote a false metaphor to describe us.
"Describe us"? What are you
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 11:04pm.
"Describe us"? What are you part of a cult of lock-step zombies? Palin did not resign office? Well what happened? The excuses are so transparently false justification for retreating. So Palin was right to quit the job now?
tomparrot wanna cracker!
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 11:26pm.
Hell, you're the leader of a cult of parrots. Who the hell are you to call ANYONE a member of a cult?
Pot, meet kettle.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
This lib will self destruct on this site...
Submitted by MightyMouth on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 11:55pm.
just like all the others. LOL. ROFL! LIberals have no clue how dumb they are! It's just too bad they can reproduce and vote. If they can manage that between getting High and getting public assitance, then life is gooood! Occupy Wall something!
T-Baker
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 1:33am.
Are you so addled as to forget it was you who described a very specific subset? "intelligent" vs unintelligent (by default)? Your parameter (singular) immediately pegged you as a small man, incapable of discourse, but certainly ripe for ridicule.
Yes, there are people who do not consider themselves unintelligent (your characterization of them, by default), because they fail to agree with your assessment of Sarah Palin.
Point is, your argument [intelligent - vs - unintelligent] demanded an agree/disagree response. That hardly translates into "lockstep" or "zombie"
Cool Arrow
Submitted by tombaker on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 5:33pm.
Oh so sorry for a verb. Let's remove it, instead of "intelligent republicans recognize"..... Change it to "many republicans recognize"
I read nothing except excuses for the fact that Palin by her own choice, retreated from elected office, cited the pressures of office, chose to quit the job because of those pressures, and resigned.
If Palin had the ability or skill, or the inner strength to face the challenges she would not have resigned a Governorship. At least she recognizes the truth, she did not run for President.
You go along and make excuses, and seek out only viewpoints that validate your excuses. Jump up and down along with the shrill posters her, but the truth of what I said above does not change with personal attacks.
Wrong again tommy boy*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 6:08pm.
You keep spouting off the same tired one liner, "that Palin is a quitter".
Since she has not been governor, has the media stopped lying and dogging her?
Have the death threats stopped?
Has the mudslinging and lies stopped?
Have the lawsuits and intimidation stopped?
Those of your kind may spend lots of time trashing Palin on the internet all you want. You cannot lie about her or her life. It speaks louder than your lies.
Though she has been threatened and constantly being intimidated and slandered, she is still out there making the effort to explain her ideas for this country. Ideas that have become most welcome by majority of patriotic Americans. She does not tell the media where she will appear, but she has given dozens of speeches, welcomed wherever she goes, and has written numerous articles to provide substance to her ideas.
Though you may call her stupid, she has proven she has knowledge and talent the media has constantly tried to hide.
She is still out there, she is still fighting for our republic and free enterprise. She has decided to face all of the intimidations and threats and still goes from state to state to campaign for true conservatives for state and congressional seats.
The more you call her a quitter, the more of a "coullion" you become.
As you can see, I greatly admire this woman. That does not mean I would vote for her, it just means she is proving, everyday, that the media are a bunch of liars.
Wall
Submitted by JustAl on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 7:34pm.
She must have missed the conference call while she was out hoopin' it up with the Occupy Whatever Sh** people. The leftist media has already picked Romney as the token opposition in the election.
Yes, we cant have anymore of those 2010 election shellackings!
Submitted by merly1 on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 7:49pm.
That old Palin needs to retreat.......before Owebama is shown the door.
the only time
Submitted by almostacowboy on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 8:48pm.
I hear Huntsman's name is from the usual suspects - MSDNC, NBC, CNN. According to Willy Geist, "We really like him here."
Really, Willy? Really?
Huntsman's a "rising star"?? On what planet?
Submitted by PrairieSky on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 8:58pm.
Can it get anymore ludicrous than this? Huntsman's a joke, and is going nowhere, except in the fevered imaginations of the looney left media.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Huntsman needs to switch parties and primary Obama
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 9:47pm.
Somehow I think he would be much more comfortable on the other side of the aisle.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Huntsman rising star?
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Wed, 12/28/2011 - 11:49pm.
Oh yeah, he's sky rocketed up to a solid 4%. Look out for the sonic boom.
It's all about,
Submitted by mioilman on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 9:33am.
Abortion.
Earlier in the week I tried to post a response regarding the idiot actress who leveled the same charge about GOP moms.
I used Obama's quote about "not wanting his daughters punished with a baby."
Liberals of Obama's ilk can speak candidly about exterminating their grandchildren without criticism.
This issue is why 40% of this nation votes democrat.
Isn't it time in America to openly have this debate instead of allowing liberals to snark without clarifiying their complaints?
Two things...
Submitted by Upland_Patriot on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 12:50pm.
First, thank God the liberal troll Tom Baker took a nap and stopped Palin bashing. Secondly, Huntsman could never win a presidential general election as long as conservatives still have power. Huntsman is the face of true RINO-ism.
Unfortunately, if libs like T. Baker get their way, America will be a socialist society (Commie is preferred by Democrats) unless strong conservatives (like the Tea Party) fight for our American culture and values.
Or maybe it is his (T.Baker) misogynist attitude toward women like Palin that fuels his desire to demean and marginalize Gov. Palin.
Nice cut and paste theories
Submitted by tombaker on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 5:46pm.
Nice cut and paste theories you pinhead. That I think a Politician is bad for a party is not bashing. Sorry that the truth hurts you so much. I already posted that Huntsman is an Obama employee that attacks Republicans more than he helps them.
Next you make me your boogie man. Suddenly I am a socialist liberal, and a Commie Democrat. Perhaps you have had a break from reality, but thinking a specific politician that causes her own public resignation from elected office is not good for the party, and the interest of Republicans.....is not the tar and feathering of liberal commie socialist that you want to apply. Get it? Or do you need more help to understand?
She is Sara Palin, she is not Gov. Palin, she gave up that title when she quit office. Winston Churchill talks about quitters like Palin, she gave up, she gave up, she gave up.
Palin does not need special treatment because she is a woman, either she can handle the job or not, saying she caved to the pressure is just her story. Grow up and stop your chanting of all this PC police terms.....misogynist because I am disappointed that a Politician can not fulfill the term of office that she asked voters to put her in. She failed to complete her term as Governor, saying so is not some sort of attack, its the truth.
tomparrot wanna cracker!
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 6:25pm.
For Shahinshah's sakes somebody give this man his saltines and a dart board with Palin's face on it. Maybe then he will go away.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Uns---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 9:25pm.
this tombaker character is completely off his nut when it comes to Sarah Palin.
drsam will have to be called in at some point to diagnose this pitiful, though psychotic, psittaceous behavior.
MD
Hunstmann
Submitted by jpalm32 on Thu, 12/29/2011 - 2:30pm.
Oh goody a White Obama, just what the country needs!