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Smug Incoming NPR Chief: 'I Think Critics...Don't Even Listen' to NPR

By Tim Graham | October 20, 2011 | 17:09

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Incoming NPR president Gary Knell smugly dismissed NPR critics in an interview with James Rainey of the Los Angeles Times. "If you listen over a period of time you hear voices from all ends of the political spectrum on NPR," Knell argued. "I think a lot of the critics, by what they say, don't even listen to the service." (Dear Mr. Smug: read the NPR section of NewsBusters, with links to your transcripts.)

That's not the only smug echo among the NPR rookies. Another line is that conservatives (or people who agree there's a liberal tilt) aren't the "real listeners," the "core audience" of NPR -- even if they're "core" funders through taxes. That's what new NPR ombudsman Edward Schumacher-Matos said in an interview on NPR's Talk of the Nation on October 11:

NEAL CONAN, host: I wonder, looking back over -- well, we've had a rocky year here at NPR [between the Juan Williams firing and the Ron Schiller "Muslim donor" video sting], and not just NPR News but at NPR. And do you find that, in your correspondence with listeners, that they trust this organization less because of some of the things they've found out about it?

SCHUMACHER-MATOS: Well, I think NPR took a little bit - a hit. I think we all recognize that. But I think, you know, the listeners, the real listeners, the core audience are willing to cut NPR a little bit of slack and understand that anybody can make a mistake. And I think we've all seen that NPR has tried to self-correct, which is good. You know, I don't think anyone disagrees that mistakes were made. But through it all, what we've all seen is that the quality of the news has remained high.

Translation: the only "real listeners" are the fans of NPR who like its liberal bias. That answer offers confirmation to the argument that NPR sees itself as liberal radio for liberal people, an ideological sandbox.

In that same interview, Schumacher-Matos insists he's listening to the "real listeners" and their complaints that NPR is too cautious, too willing to attempt fairness and placate conservatives:

CONAN: This is an email from Robert in Santa Rosa. NPR, my most trusted news source - is my most trusted news source, yet too often I get the sense that NPR's pursuit of accurate and comprehensive journalism is blunted by fear of the liberal tag.

SCHUMACHER-MATOS: Yeah. That is a growing complaint coming in. For the longest time, the criticism came from the right, that NPR was too liberal. But, you know, we're seeing -- I'm seeing more and more, and particularly in these last couple of weeks with the Wall Street protest, that people saying just that, that NPR has become cowed by the criticism by the right and is not covering things as fully as it can.

I even had this back and forth with Jay Rosen of New York University on, you know, how far NPR should go in drawing conclusions from its reporting. And he feels that NPR is just too cowardly. I don't agree with him but frankly, it's something I'm willing to follow much more closely.

For his part, Knell told the Los Angeles Times that he's ready to fight for NPR as if it were just as vital as defense or poverty programs:

When looking at all the social programs and defense programs and every other program the federal government pays for, public broadcasting is not sitting in some immune corner from everyone else," Knell said via phone from New York. "It's important to make the case that public radio is something to be valued."

Knell, 57, described himself as a longtime "groupie" of the radio network...."I think there would be a huge hole in people's lives if when they were in their car they were not able to listen to some of these programs on public radio," Knell said.

Just imagine the suicides if someone couldn't listen to "Car Talk."

Rainey didn't notice that NPR always claims it gets two percent of its funding from the federal government (although NPR affiliates get direct grants and send them into NPR). Like every other government-funded entity, NPR can paint a dire picture of "All your favorite shows will be cancelled" to get those letters to Congress humming.

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If I'm not a "real listener,"

Submitted by ThisnThat on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 5:27pm.

If I'm not a "real listener," or the "core audience" of NPR, then why should I pay for it? Let's get the real listeners to fund this liberal bias, ok?

How would the core audience of NPR feel about paying for me to listen to Rush Limbaugh? Think they would complain? And do the core NPR listeners believe NPR would go under without forced payments from taxpayers? These people are just plain stupid, if you ask me.

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Great idea

Submitted by KornKing on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 10:48pm.

Wouldn't make it on it's own, so we have to fund it

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It's nice to see NPR has learned nothing from the Juan Williams

Submitted by frank14 on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 5:33pm.

scandal. Yet they consider themselves to be the smartest people in any room they inhabit.

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"If you listen over a period

Submitted by O2bnAZ on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 6:05pm.

"If you listen over a period of time you hear voices from all ends of the political spectrum on NPR,"

Yes that would be the full spectrum from ultra-liberal to uber-liberal. The real tradjedy for NPR is that I did used to listen. They went so far off the deep end that they have simply marginalized themselves as an un-newsworthy joke...

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yea ultra to uber

Submitted by O2bnAZ on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 6:06pm.

"If you listen over a period of time you hear voices from all ends of the political spectrum on NPR,"

Yes that would be the full spectrum from ultra-liberal to uber-liberal. The real tradjedy for NPR is that I did used to listen. They went so far off the deep end that they have simply marginalized themselves as an un-newsworthy joke...

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NPR

Submitted by swenk22 on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 6:51pm.

I used to be "a real listener" and contributed to NPR too. That was until political season came and NPR's real liberal roots exposed themselves. That was some years ago I stopped contributing and yes I don't want my tax $ going to NPR.
I do listen now to NPR, on and off, to see how they are using my tax money and I must say they have become slightly more balanced but on their political analysis and choice of headlines the liberal tilt is still obvious. Just listen to "the political junky" and compare how they covered the tea party vs occupy wall street.

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What ya think, we're stupid out here?

Submitted by telecaster on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 7:09pm.

NPR / PBS shill the liberal/left line and everyone, and I mean everyone knows it. It is evident and irrefutable that they consider their things when the supposedly consider all things. So, why do my tax dollars pay for it? Pull the funding and let them live or die on their own merits. They will die. They know it and we know it. This is not a mystery.

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4 week experiment

Submitted by Kuso Jiji on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 8:06pm.

i've been listening to npr on my way to and from work for the last three weeks and npr is indeed a leftwing news source. i have not heard any reports regarding solyndra, fast and furious but i have heard a whole bunch of negative stories of the republican candidates and financial supporters. they seem almost giddy at times when it comes to reporting on the wall street protestors. time to cut the Democrat's taxpayer funded propoganda machine off at the knees.

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Why haven't the Republicans defunded these parasites yet?

Submitted by DaMav on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 8:52pm.

well?

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They Tried

Submitted by HardRightTurn on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 9:36pm.

Harry Reid has a bill passed by the House Republicans penned up in the Senate.

To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html

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There is nothing on NPR worth

Submitted by jkwtrading on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 9:09pm.

There is nothing on NPR worth listening to.

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Even as an NPR listener

Submitted by BosTarus on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 9:25pm.

I don't really care, one way or another, if it ends up de-funded by the federal government. For one, I understand the need to "trim the fat" on the federal level... secondly, it only amounts to 6-8% of NPR's revenue (even liberal estimates only put the number as high as 11.3%).

So cutting the funding is far from "killing" NPR. I guess my only objection to the defunding is just how NPR has been demonized as a lofty boondoggle of wasteful spending... when it is such a tiny drop in the bucket. But in tough times, you have to consider the drops as well as the rocks.

As long as they don't touch my Radiolab, I'm cool with whatever!

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Not Anymore

Submitted by HardRightTurn on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 9:30pm.

I used to listen to NPR and watch PBS before they came out of their liberal closet. I couldn't tolerate the lies anymore. Now I don't even need to listen to what they say because I know it will be the Democrat party line talking points, misrepresentations, ommissions, equivocating and defense of the indefensible, not to mention their one-sidedness.

Keep the pressure on them, NewsBusters. Knock them down and never let them up.

To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html

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Schumacher-Matos

Submitted by Keef Olbermann on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 9:54pm.

is fresh from a stint at the Washington Post. Fair-minded guy. Ombudsmen, by the way, are independent contractors and usually are rotated every year. He´s telling it like it is.

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Paying Their Fair Share?

Submitted by sergeant stogie on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 10:00pm.

Can you imagine if, conversely, FOX News was publicly funded like NPR? Oh, the liberal outrage! Screaming and hyperbole would abound! You can bet they would try to get that funding yanked post haste.

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Yeah the stinky Occupiers would demand to be let in

Submitted by gmaniac1 on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 6:22am.

to camp out in the lobby and defecate through the hallways.

And the Farceness Doctrine would be back in full swing.

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NPR

Submitted by GerryC on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 10:10pm.

The very idea that NPR or PBS do not have a "liberal" slant daily is easy to prove. 60% of Americans are "conservatives", and 95% don't watch or listen to either of this BS. Why do we pay for the opinions of people that represent people that do not even pay taxes? 47% of Americans do not pay taxes, but PBS presents them and features them.

Just imagine the GOP suggesting a TV or radio show that would be funded by the American public to focus on successful people. Teaching them "economics" instead of "ebonics". Imagine PBS only focusing on people that have found success!!! OMG!!! I am sure that would be OK to spend our money on, right? Gez

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So he admits no ones listens,

Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 11:47pm.

So he admits no ones listens, why are we funding this group of marxist morons?

Non, je ne regrette rien. "You aren't angry because I might be a racist, you're angry because you know I'm right".
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They used to broadcast that

Submitted by rbosque on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 1:12am.

They used to broadcast that tripe through AFN in Europe so I listened. It was garbage! Absolute crap! How do normal people even think that way?

"It may be true that you can't fool all the people all the time, but you can fool enough of them to rule a large country"......Will Durant
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He's right. I am a critic of NPR and I will never listen to...

Submitted by jawebster1 on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 3:46am.

it because I have better things to do with my time. One example: I would rather listen to Conservative Talk Radio.

I would also prefer watching Fox News over Charlie Rose on TV.

You don't need to jump off a tall building to know that it is something you wouldn't like to do.

Jim Webster
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NPR???

Submitted by scottyusmc on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 6:07am.

I couldn't give a rats-ass what NPR or PBS has to say!!! I just don't like paying for it!!! Survive or die in the American marketplace. If you need government support to exist, that tells me that your message isn't strong enough to merit support on its own...

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It's not a matter of cutting

Submitted by eaglewingz08 on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 8:31am.

It's not a matter of cutting funding to npr to kill it. If it makes it in the marketplace without funding that's goood because their audience is supporting them and capitalism is supporting their efforts. But if they fail that too is the judgment of the marketplace we would support. People vote with their dollars given voluntarily. if there ever was a need for npr it has long ago vanished.

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eaglewingz08

Submitted by Agnostic on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 8:55am.

While there is nothing in your post that is wrong I would like to add my 2 cents:

The decrease in viewers, circulation and public support for much of the media has not swayed them in the least from continuing their lurch to the left.  There is an agenda that is being pressed either actively by the media or the talking heads are no more than useful idiot puppets.  Any company that had the economic impact that these organizations have seen over the last decade would have been diversifying or setting a new business model but the media is doubling down on what they have always done.  The only reason I can fathom is that it is due to ideological reasons that, at least temporarily, trump profits. 

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Let's go to the studies, shall we

Submitted by StarAZ on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 2:05pm.

Studies show that conservatives (for want of a better term) tend to listen to the other side more than liberals or progressives do. I listen to NPR--and yes, I do often detect a slant, but I am brave and I can take it.

 

 

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