ABC, NBC Each Pretend Gay-Left Activist Sting of Bachmann Clinic Is Their Own Investigation
ABC and NBC each attacked “Michele Bachmann’s family business” on Tuesday, and strangely, each presented it as their own idea -- “our hidden-camera investigation” (ABC) and “NBC News investigates the controversy” -- even as they both relied on a gay-left advocacy group’s sting operation.
Neither story showed any sign that these liberals would consider talking to anyone claiming to be an "ex-gay," like Janet Boynes, someone the Bachmanns have promoted. Wayne Besen, the head of Truth Wins Out, a group staunchly opposed the concept that anyone can be “cured” or “treated for” homosexuality, has been quite clear about how liberalism is much more sound and scientific than conservatism:
The cornerstone of liberalism is the idea that each person is endowed with the precious gift of liberty and can freely choose his or her own path – for better or worse. . . . Liberalism encourages exploration and education. It reveres science and celebrates the inquisitive mind. Indeed, liberal values are often superior to those held on the right, because they are tenaciously subjected to rigorous examination. Beliefs that are questioned and still prevail are those that stand the test of time. Far from moral relativism, liberalism searches for the ultimate value in which to build a moral foundation: Truth.
Of course, Besen’s group doesn’t use a moral foundation of truth when they’re trying to fool the Bachmanns about their need for counseling. The sting artist, in this case, a man named John Becker, explained his technique to the gay magazine The Advocate:
I decided that the wisest course of action was to make my story fit as closely as possible to my own experience. Of course I’d have to embellish a bit and make a few things up, but it stood to reason that the closer the story I told was to the truth, the easier it would be for me to keep track of what I had said. After all, I was once a deeply-closeted teenage Catholic boy awakening to my own sexual orientation, terrified of what it might mean, too ashamed to tell anyone, and desperate to change it by any means necessary; although those memories are now far behind me, it was surprisingly easy to bring them back and put myself in a similar mental and emotional place. Still, I’d never done anything like this before. As the date of my departure grew nearer, my excitement and nervousness mounted. Could I pull it off? Would the cameras be well-hidden enough? Would they figure out what I was up to? What would we find? I packed my bags, made my social network profiles unsearchable, bid adieu to Michael, my husband of more than five years, and boarded a flight to Minneapolis to find out.
Preparing for my first visit was a surreal experience. I couldn’t pay by check since my checks had my name, my husband’s name, and a Vermont address. This meant I would be paying with cash and opening my wallet before each appointment, so I realized I’d have to go through my wallet and remove or hide anything that would invite suspicion. My Human Rights Campaign credit card had to go, lest anyone recognize that organization’s ubiquitous logo. I left our ACLU membership card behind as well. I also hid my out-of-state debit card and library card, and took the photo of Michael and me out of my wallet along with the copy of our marriage certificate that I always keep close. Despite the hot and humid Minnesota weather, I wore long pants to conceal a tattoo on my ankle of a pink triangle, the badge of gay prisoners in Nazi concentration camps and a symbol of the struggle for LGBT equality. At the last minute, in the parking lot, I remembered that Michael’s picture was set as the background image on my phone, so I hurriedly changed it. Finally, I took a deep breath and slipped off my wedding ring, placing it in a plastic bag inside my satchel, right next to one of the hidden cameras. My identity as a proud, openly gay, happily married LGBT rights activist was totally erased. I was ready.
Notice he doesn't describe himself as an "investigative journalist." And Becker put on a show, complete with phony crying:
I mentioned Marcus Bachmann’s by then well-publicized remarks calling gays “barbarians” who “need to be educated.” “Am I a barbarian?” I said through tears. Rather than contradict his boss’ words, [counselor Tim] Wiertzema opted to doubt the authenticity of the recording I had heard: “It sounds like… something that someone just did. It doesn’t sound accurate.”
ABC's Good Morning America began on Tuesday with George Stephanopoulos promoting a story on "Michele Bachmann's family business under fire. The fast-rising Republican and her husband are facing new questions about a controversial conversion therapy that experts say could do more harm than help. What hidden cameras reveal in our hidden camera investigation."
Does the "our" mean that Truth Wins Out was paid by ABC? Or are they just claiming glory for a sting they're just picking up as an anti-Repubican convenience? A few minutes later, Brian Ross was back for another turn in "exposing" the Bachmanns:
STEPHANOPOULOS: And now to a new twist in the battle for the Republican presidential nomination. Congresswoman Michele Bachmann is taking the lead in Iowa and that success is bringing scrutiny. ABC's chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross obtained some undercover video from the Christian counseling center Bachmann owns with her husband. It shows staff there apparently trying to turn a gay person straight. And, Brian, this kind of conversion is something that the Bachmanns deny doing.
BRIAN ROSS: That's right, George. But, these new undercover tapes are calling into question what's been happening at the Christian Therapy Clinic in Minneapolis that is owned by Michele Bachmann and her husband Marcus.
It is the family's principal source of income and gay advocates say the clinic is practicing a discredited therapy that can supposedly turn homosexuals into heterosexuals. It's called Bachmann & Associates. The tapes were made inside the clinic by a member of a gay advocacy group who was treated by a therapist after asking for help to stop his feeling for men.
UNIDENTIFIED THERAPIST: I think it's possible to be totally free from them.
ROSS: He could cure your homosexuality? Is that what he said?
JOHN BECKER (Truth Wins Out): Yes. Yes, he said it several times. He said change is possible. He said he's seen it. He believes that full change from homosexual to heterosexual is possible.
ROSS: The treatment, he says he was told, includes turning to the Bible and prayer when homosexual urges struck.
THERAPIST: In terms of how God created us, we're all heterosexual.
ROSS: In fact, the American Psychological Society says such theory is not only infective but potentially harmful
CLINTON ANDERSON (American Psychological Association): Changing that deep part of them about who they're attracted to which emerges spontaneously in adolescence without choice, we have not seen any evidence that such therapies or such religious practices change that.
The APA has traveled a long scientific (or ideological?) way since the 1960s, when homosexuality was declassified as a mental disorder in 1973 after a storm of political activism. Two years ago, the APA, complete with a "LGBT concerns office," officially condemned any therapy to "treat" homosexuality. Clinton Anderson is the head of that "LGBT concerns office," but somehow that title didn't make the TV screen.
Reparative therapy is certainly controversial -- and is virulently opposed by gay activists -- but when networks say "experts" condemn it, viewers ought to understand there's a lot of political lobbying involved, not just a pristine scientific inquiry. There's also an actual journalistic point here if the Bachmanns have misled the public about what goes on inside the clinic. The question then is whether there's a liberal double standard on who will be investigated, or "stung." The ABC story continued:
MICHELE BACHMANN: My husband, Dr. Marcus Bachmann.
ROSS: Bachmann's husband, Dr. Marcus Bachmann who once referred to homosexuals as barbarians, has denied that his clinic tries to convert gays to straight, what's called reparative therapy. But, gay advocates say the undercover tape reveals the truth.
WAYNE BESEN (Truth Wins Out): I think this tape shows, irrefutably, that at Bachmann and Associates, they do reparative therapy, which is trying, basically, to pray away the gay, using a little bit of the prayer and a little bit of therapy.
BACHMANN: Thank you, everyone.
ROSS: Asked about our ABC News report at a campaign event in Iowa, Michele Bachmann said it was not something Americans were interested.
BACHMANN: Well, I'm here to talk about my run for the presidency for the United States. We're very proud of our business and we're proud of all job creator in the United States.
ROSS: In a further statement the campaign said the Bachmann's clinic provide a variety of services but because of patient confidentiality, they cannot comment on any specific treatment, including this gay-to-straight treatment, George.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Okay, Brian. And the patient did say that he thought the therapist was a caring therapist.
ROSS: A caring therapist, yes. But did want to change him.
ABC's calling Becker "the patient"? Instead of the "actor"? So what happens when a "patient" wants surgery to change themselves, to remove breasts or genitals? Is that "controversial"? Is that "scientific"? Or do liberal politics cause a completely different reaction to "transgender" operations and whether that does harm to people?
NBC ran their segment in the second half-hour of Today, but promoted it insistently:
MATT LAUER, 7:01 AM: Also ahead, NBC News investigates a controversy involving GOP presidential hopeful Michele Bachmann. A secret videotape recorded inside a Christian counseling center that she owns with her husband is raising some questions about that clinic's treatment for homosexuals. We'll have details on that coming up.
ANN CURRY, 7:25 AM: Just ahead, the secret video recorded inside a clinic owned by Michele Bachmann and her husband raising questions about whether they tried to convert gay men.
LAUER, 7:30 AM: Just ahead in this half hour, did a clinic owned by GOP presidential hopeful Michele Bachmann and her husband try to treat homosexuality? Coming up, the controversy that's being generated by an undercover video.
CURRY, 7:40AM: Coming up next, did a clinic owned by Michele Bachmann and her husband try to convert gay men? NBC News investigates right after this.
At 7:43, investigative reporter Michael Isikoff unfurled the "NBC" findings:
LAUER: Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann has made fighting same-sex marriage one of the defining issues of her political career. Now there are new questions about the approach she and her therapist husband take with homosexuals at a clinic they own together. NBC News national investigative correspondent Michael Isikoff has more on this story. Michael, good morning.
MICHAEL ISIKOFF: Good morning, Matt. In a recent fundraising letter, presidential candidate Michele Bachmann touted her role helping to run a family counseling center. But a secret videotape which raises questions about how the center treats patients who might be gay is creating new controversy for Bachmann.
[ON-SCREEN HEADLINE: NBC News Investigates; Did Bachmann Clinic Try to "Treat" Homosexuality?]
26-year-old John Becker says he sought help last month from the therapists at Bachmann & Associates, the Christian counseling center owned by Congresswoman Michele Bachmann and her psychologist husband Marcus Bachmann.
JOHN BECKER: I told them that I wanted to be rid of my same-sex attractions, to be rid of homosexuality.
ISIKOFF: In five one-hour sessions that he secretly taped on behalf of a gay rights group, Becker says a clinic therapist advised him how he could become straight, through counseling, prayer and scripture.
BECKER: Anytime I felt the temptation of – you know, to act out homosexually or had homosexual thoughts, to pray about it, to take it to the Bible.
ISIKOFF: Becker says he wanted to prove that the Bachmann clinic uses a controversial technique called reparative therapy, to cure gays and lesbians of their homosexuality.
THERAPIST: The truth is God, God has designed our eyes to be attracted to the woman's body.
BECKER: Sure.
THERAPIST: To be attracted to, you know, everything. You know? To be attracted to her breasts.
ISIKOFF: The gay cure therapy has been repudiated by the American Psychological Association. And in the past, Marcus Bachmann has denied that his clinic uses such practices. But the Becker video could raise new questions about the clinic and candidate Michele Bachmann's views on homosexuality. From her first days as a state senator in Minnesota, Bachmann led the charge for a ban on same-sex marriage.
BACHMANN: If this actually goes on the ballot it will pass overwhelmingly.
ISIKOFF: And in a controversial 2004 speech she compared what she called the 'gay lifestyle' to slavery.
BACHMANN: If you're involved in the gay and lesbian lifestyle, it's bondage. It is personal bondage, personal despair, and personal enslavement. And that's why this is so dangerous.
NBC News and Isikoff and being disingenous here, or just blind to metaphor. Anyone who's been inside a church in the last several decades would realize that Bachmann is talking about bondage to sin, or enslavement to a sexual attraction condemned by the Bible. She didn't compare it to "slavery" in the way most Americans hear that -- the slavery of blacks. It would be just as ridiculous for Isikoff to assert that Bachmann was saying that all homosexuals are into "bondage." The NBC story would somehow not be complete without outraged gay Log Cabin Republicans:
ISIKOFF: Comments such as these have alarmed some GOP strategists and many gay Republicans.
R. CLARKE COOPER [EXECUTIVE DIR., LOG CABIN REPUBLICANS]: Congresswoman Bachmann's viewpoints on gay and lesbian Americans is actually on the fringe, more and more Americans believe and accept that their gay neighbors, family, friends, colleagues, are just who they are.
ISIKOFF: But analysts say her uncompromising views on homosexuality are also one of the big reasons she is gaining traction in Iowa. Just last week she reinforced her message by becoming the first GOP presidential candidate to sign a controversial marriage vow that pledges 'vigorous opposition' to same-sex marriage. She also vowed to push for a federal marriage amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
We asked the Bachmann campaign for comment on this story. A spokeswoman says that Bachmann & Associates is a Christian counseling center that provides services to patients with a variety of counseling and mental health issues. She refused to discuss the specifics of this or any other case, citing patient confidentiality. But she did say quote, 'The clinic honors and respects all people for whatever issue they come in for and if there is a conflict, they refer elsewhere. Matt?
Neither ABC nor NBC included any Christian Republicans to rebut the Clarke Coopers and the Wayne Besens, and Isikoff wasn't going to spend any time on the "alarm" that Republicans had when the Log Cabin activists failed to endorse President Bush's re-election in 2004, which defined that they were gay activists first, and the Republican part was very conditional. Perhaps with therapy, they can stop denying their real identity and realize they're not Republicans.
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Oh, the horror of it - trying to convert gay men
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 8:49am.
Nice to see they're all over this like they were the Planned Parenthood & Acorn stings - /s
Of course that only involved multiple nationwide cases of underaged prostitution, covering up statutory rape and illegally hooking minors up with abortions without their parents' consent... and other "victimless" non-crimes.
But counseling homosexuals as to how they may change their lifestyle? This must not stand and Bachmann must be destroyed over it.
ROSS: The treatment, he says
Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 8:51am.
ROSS: The treatment, he says he was told, includes turning to the Bible and prayer when homosexual urges struck.
Why, that's positively outrageous!!
Now THAT'S funny
Submitted by WhoIsJohnGalt on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 9:15am.
"Beliefs that are questioned and still prevail are those that stand the test of time."
You mean, like marriage = one man and one woman?
Maybe their definition of "test of time" means the latest liberal thinking of the most recent ten-year period. Let's see, what other liberal ideas have "stood the test of time"...
-everyone gets a trophy...yeah that does a LOT for self-esteem
-the welfare state...instead of lifting people up, it's created an entire class of dependent citizens
-the sexual revolution...hastened the spread of aids, exploded the out-of-wedlock birth rate (I realize that libs still see that as a net positive)
-everyone deserves to own a house...record high home prices, followed by a huge crash in said prices caused by record number of home mortgage defaults
-Obama's "leading from behind" in Libya (LEADING FROM BEHIND??? REALLY???)
-taxing wealth producers until they leave the state/country
And on, and on, and on....
I wonder what percentage of gay people
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 9:06am.
are "wired" that way and what percentage couldn't find themselves accepted anywhere and so gravitated to this alternate life style.
For those that are not "wired" and due to external circumstances find themselves in this refuge should be spoken to and helped to find the life style that they are "wired" for.
My comment from Besen's self-indulgent paen to leftism:
Submitted by Morganfrost on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 9:10am.
"Indeed, the left is the backbone of freedom, the defender of personal liberty, the guarantor of free speech and religious worship and the nurturer of democratic movements across the globe."
No, it's not. It's the backbone of collectivism, statism, group rights, speech codes, discrimination against religious people, and the nurturer of communist and radical Islamic oppression around the globe; in fact, it's the antithesis of everything you've suggested. Leftists may fool each other with this kind of high-sounding cant, but you're not fooling anyone else.
So, let me get this straight, if you'll pardon the pun
Submitted by WhoIsJohnGalt on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 9:13am.
Bachman and Associates is taking flak for trying to help someone achieve what they came to them asking help with...which is to try and stop the feelings that he had for men. Would the libs be happier if Bachman and Associates ignored the man's wishes and pursued their own selfish agenda?
Let's flip this around and look at abortion clinics...if Bachman and Associates had been a "women's health clinic" and a woman came to them seeking an abortion, should B & A try and talk the woman out of an aboortion, or just provide the service, no questions asked?
We know the answer to that question, so the point is that libs do not want people to pursue their own individual goals, they want them to pursue the LIBERAL goals, regardless of what the individual wants.
That, my friend, is an excellent analogy!
Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 9:27am.
Liberals go on the warpath against anything that might encourage second-guessing by a woman seeking an abortion.
Face-melting hypocrisy.
As long as abortions are legal in the U.S. ....
Submitted by Kenyon Schraeder on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 11:43am.
.... our society has a moral and ethical obligation to provide and encourage counseling to women who are unsure, depressed, emotionally distraught or perhaps misinformed about abortion, unaware of the ramifications that may come about from having the procedure and also unsure about the options that may be available.
That's just just common sense and it speaks to people taking the high road of maturity, empathy, responsibility and integrity. What a woman consciously chooses to do after that is her business alone and no one should be keeping score.
That's silly.
Submitted by WhoIsJohnGalt on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 1:47pm.
So do we *as a society* (I just love that phrase...usually means "I feel, but I can't justify logically, and I want some of your money to have the government take responsibility for it ") have the same moral and ethical obligations to anyone seeking any surgery? How about cancer treatment? How about sterilization procedures? How about cosmetic surgery? How about sex-change operations?
Go ahead...try and make the distinction. What criteria would you use to determine what procedures qualify? How would we *as a society* provide such counseling? Who would pay for it? Who would determine what that counseling would consist of? Where do you draw the line about what procedures deserve *society's* counseling?
Who pee'd in your Cheerios this morning?
Submitted by Kenyon Schraeder on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 11:08pm.
You must be a liberal - right? You talk the talk but you don't want to walk the walk. Abortion is NOT elective or emergency surgery. It's not a case of just a "second opinion". This is most likely one of the most emotionally devastating things that the average woman has to contemplate and decide about, compounded further by family, values, religion and so on.
If you have a burr up your butt over Pro-Life Clinics and Counseling Centers, then be adult about it and just owe up to it. Fine. You're Pro-Choice. But don't use the hackneyed taxpayers argument to marginalize the good work that Pro-Lifers are doing with private donations.
You're a man and you want to decide what's best for women. Typical but not unexpected.
Wow
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 11:20pm.
I have trouble following your point. I don't believe who is... Is advocating for abortion at all.
My original post about
Submitted by Kenyon Schraeder on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 11:51pm.
My original post about abortion was me replying specifically to the poster who brought it up in reply to another poster. Whew! That's pretty much it.
Schraeder...
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 07/14/2011 - 1:24am.
I got your point, and a well articulated point it was.
I am, and have been, here, on the record, for about five years as being pro-life.
Having said that....in this day and age (of legalized abortion)...I find your stance to be "reasonable".
We cannot (in law) condemn those who "choose" to have abortions. But it behooves us all to keep trying to make the case.
I know my position here will annoy some of my NB friends, but we can only do what we can do.
I think your position is well stated.
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There's no law against what
Submitted by kareling on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 9:15am.
There's no law against what Marcus Bachmann is doing.
No one is forcing anyone to go to his clinic.
Everyone who CHOOSES to go there must know by the clinic's name that it's faith-based.
No one has died as a result of this (for the second night in a row, on ABC World News Tonight, Diane Sawyer and Brian Ross did another story on this, citing mental health professionals who said that what Bachmann's clinic is doing could only make things worse for patients, who might get even more depressed and go on to commit suicide).
No one's lying, no one's dying.
More people have died as a result of Operation Fast and Furious, which the MSM continues to ignore.
The howler of the piece....
Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 9:20am.
The left is......the guarantor of free speech and religious worship......!!
You mean the left, the creator of speech codes??
You mean the left, who target Christian churches and want to characterize quoting the Bible as hate speech?
<insert hysterical laughter>
Liberalism is a mental disorder
Submitted by Ozconservative on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 9:24am.
"A spokeswoman says that Bachmann & Associates is a Christian counseling center that provides services to patients with a variety of counseling and mental health issues"
Does this include hate-filled libturds???
Was that segment
Submitted by bkeyser on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 9:32am.
really from Becker or Dreams from My Father? What a joke.
The joke is that these idiots,
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 10:01am.
in the name of marginalizing Bachmann are helping her. Are they not aware that the majority of the population agrees with her that many people are not gay due to genetics but due to the influence of other peers and many of them are religious and also are not happy about that life style. Are they trying to get her more support and votes?
We have too many of touch spin doctors in the MSM.
This is utterly ridiculous
Submitted by b-dob on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 10:44am.
So gay, Christian men go to a counselor to seek treatment for their guilt associated with their sexual identity, and the Christian counselors *gasp* tell them to pray about?! Preposterous! It's not like these psychiatrists are going to gay bars recruiting potential patients, or berating gay men to the point they break down and attend sessions at the clinic.
Faith Based
Submitted by Joe W. on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 11:41am.
As a recovering alcoholic, the 12 step program championed by Alcoholics Anonymous relies heavily on the notion of faith, a "higher power" and prayer as a means to assist the afflicted person on the road to recovery. Millions of alcoholics have been helped through AA. There is every bit as much evidence to suggest that alcoholism has a genetic characteristic as does homosexuality. I am one alcoholic who can testify that prayer and consulting the bible has been quite beneficial in keeping me from indulging in my urges to consume alcohol. And it has worked for me for 21 years 3 months and 10 days. And I literally thank God every day for giving me the strength to remain sober. The same can work for gay people if they truly wish to not cave in to their homosexual desires. Who the heck are liberal moon bats to suggest otherwise??
Did I miss something?
Submitted by apf2 on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 2:06pm.
When did they find the fag gene? The dyke gene? The tranny gene? The pedophile gene? The zoophile gene?
There is only supposition by the liberal leaning sector that it exists. But even with the current advanced knowledge of the human genome nobody has found any genes that can be said to cause these perversions.
However, while it is far from conclusive or a guaranteed cause of alcoholism, the gene GABRG3 has been strongly linked to the disease.
"Genetic homosexuality" is a farce designed to take away the remorse of being perverted and sick. Even "genetic alcoholism" is only one of several factors that contribute to whether or not a given person will fall to the disease. You, Faith, are a living example that the human spirit, with God's help, can overcome "genetic predisposition".
Personally I don't think this hurts Bachmann......
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 12:29pm.
Nothing in that report said anything about them trying to "Beat" the gay out of them or any thing other than the Bible and prayer. Bachmann was NEVER going to get the GAY VOTE! On top of that fact add that the gay vote is in fact small and insignifigant. This is the Obama "Prison wives" taking after someone that has basically told the truth about their man and now they are out to get her!
More Liberal/Progressive BS designed for Useful Idiots to ...
Submitted by apf2 on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 1:00pm.
More Liberal/Progressive BS designed for Useful Idiots to consume and regurgitate as their own "truths".
1) The clinic did not do anything illegal. Helping someone that is emotionally distraught and has sought help is not a crime--unlike child prostitution, tax fraud, or financial fraud in the cases of Planned Parenthood and Acorn.
2) The clinic responded to the request of the actor--as opposed to the actor's parents, friends or other third parties. The clinic at no time tried to force any treatment on the actor. The actor was there of his own motivation. Again as opposed to the cases of PP and Acorn where adults where colluding to perform illegal acts upon and with minors.
3) Just because the sodomites and dykes have managed to infiltrate a professional organization and succeeded in getting their point of view accepted and promoted does not mean it is scientifically, morally or legally the only point of view which can be espoused. Is there any law against helping someone to change their behavior and feelings through prayer and non-invasive techniques? Of course not!! Is there a law against forcing, encouraging or facilitating the prostitution of minors? Of course there is, and in all 50 states and most civilized countries. Is there a law against defrauding the government to avoid paying taxes or to receive monies under false pretenses? Of course there is, and in all 50 states and most civilized countries.
So, these shows are only out to make empty headed fools think they have something to hold against conservatives, Christians, and right-minded folk. Any minimally analytic mind would instantly catch the differences in the cases compared and understand that trying to establish an equivalence of the cases is an exercise in idiocy and manipulation of idiots.
Left Wing Liars
Submitted by troxruss on Wed, 07/13/2011 - 1:25pm.
Here's a great quote from the Bible that characterizes the leftist media:
From John 8:44 (Jesus speaking) - "When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies." The "he" here is Satan, but you could change the "he" and "his" to "they" and "their" and it would apply when talking of the "Ministry of Truth" (MSM).