Ed Schultz to Dem: 'Do You Think That Fox News Wants the Government to be Overthrown?'

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At the top of the 1 pm hour of the Ed Schultz Show today on the radio, Schultz declared "The country does not feel the same way the teabaggers do." Picking up on video showing a woman at a tea-party meeting demanding book-burning at universities, he added: "Welcome to the House Unamerican Activities Committee, 2009 version...I can just envision Senator McCarthy somewhere in the depths of Hell just smiling about all of this." But the real ardor came out when he asked Rep. Chris Van Hollen out of the blue: "Do you think that Fox News wants the government to be overthrown? Cause they’re sure acting like it." Van Hollen denied that Fox was some sort of Bill Ayers network in reverse. Here’s the exchange:

VAN HOLLEN: Americans understand there are certain things we have to do together, which we cannot do alone. And that’s the purpose of having government of the people, and by the people, and it has to be supported. We have to be able to support our troops. We have to be able to support our veterans. You can’t provide that support without providing the resources to do it. So you can’t have it both ways. You can’t say let’ s make sure our veterans who are coming back from serving in Iraq or Afghanistan, to make sure they’re well taken care of, and then at the same time, suggest that anyone who wants to provide the resources to do it is some kind of Marxist. It’s a total disconnect with reality.

SCHULTZ: Do you think that Fox News wants the government to be overthrown? Cause they’re sure acting like it.

VAN HOLLEN: I don’t think anyone wants to see the government overthrown, but the rhetoric, as you mentioned. What you’ve got going on here is overheated rhetoric, and apparently, it’s the only thing that some of these guys will get the fires on the far right wing. They’re talking, as you said, to a very narrow group of Americans. Because it’s totally detached from everyday lives. People are struggling to make ends meet. The president understands that. That’s why we’ve got this recovery plan, and to have this sort of teabag events around the country with this overheated, outrageous rhetoric just shows once again that these guys are out of touch and may not be getting back in touch for a very, very, very long time.

It was slightly amusing when Schultz tried to set up Van Hollen to state that there are no tax increases on the table right now (forgetting, for example, the cigarette tax hike in the S-CHIP bill). Van Hollen seemed detached from reality when he said Bush's tax cuts "expire on their own at the end of 2002."

When Van Hollen claimed there were "no tax increases whatsoever" in the Obama era, Schultz remembered the tobacco tax, but then oddly claimed: "That was voted on by the Congress. So there hasn't been any tax increases that were voted on by the Congress since Obama's taken office, which I think is a pretty vital point to all of this." 

On February 5, The Washington Times reported that President Obama signed the SCHIP bill, which passed both houses this year:

The measure authorizing the $32.8 billion expansion of the State Children's Health Insurance Program, or SCHIP, passed the House earlier in the day by a 290-135 vote. Forty Republicans supported the measure, and 133 rejected it. Only two Democrats voted no: Reps. Bobby Bright of Alabama and Jim Marshall of Georgia.

The Senate approved the measure last week by a vote of 66-32.

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.


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Government organizations are free to protest as they please yet people must be surpressed? Why aren't tea parties real democracy? 

JDW

DAILY WAVE

The government works for me, not the other way around

Apparently Eddie never

Apparently Eddie never heard of the Declaration of Independence, which states in part:

"...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it..."

Smoke that in your pipe and stick it, Schultzie!

And I'm sure you could find

And I'm sure you could find people for every presidential administration who believe they had a valid reason to "alter or to abolish" the government. Doesn't mean it's a good idea, or that it's actually going to happen.

Basically, the right is claiming the same kinds of things that the left claimed under Bush. In the end, all it will end up doing is rallying their base of voters to win the next election and re-take control of Congress, and probably the presidential election two years later. 

You really don't get it do

You really don't get it do you balboa.

I guess not, but I bet you

I guess not, but I bet you do.

bal: He does, and don't

bal:

He does, and don't you forget it.

Thanks for your analysis.

There's one thing I'm hoping you can help me with, if you don't mind.

Can you define socialism for me?

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

Here is a Simple Explanation about Socialism + Communism

What is the difference between socialism and communism?

Socialism can only grow directly from Capitalism.

“The goal of socialism is communism.” Vladimir Lenin

Communism can only be achieved from Socialism or by violent revolution.

Socialism's slogan is: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his DEEDS."


Communism's slogan is: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his NEEDS."


Major difference is between 'DEEDS' and 'NEEDS'

Socialism and communism are alike in that both are systems of production for use, based on public ownership of the means of production and centralized planning.

Socialism is the first step in the process of developing the productive forces to achieve abundance and changing the mental and spiritual outlook of the people.

Socialism is the necessary transition stage from capitalism to communism unless there is a violent revolution. (Dialectics)

There are two kinds of property to a Socialist:
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1) Property used for private enjoyment, i.e. Automobile (if by deeds you can pay for it).
2) Property used to produce the Automobile.

Socialists will allow you personal property i.e. Automobile, but will take away and own the property used to manufacture the Automobile.

There is one kind of property to a Communist:
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That which is owned by the state (everything), including the citizens of that state.

The communist principle of distribution according to needs, is not immediately possible and practical until the Socialist framework is in place.

The conjecture that the Barack Obama Socialism, is NOT Marxist thinking is both foolish and plain silly.

This is MY views, NOT wikipedia or other definitions.

http://hisfacts.blog... and_communist_alliances.thtml

its not about party

it's about What's this government is supposed to be doing.  And How.

the Who is inconsequential.

You're trying to make this about party and that is why you will continue not to get it.

How many Democrats do you

How many Democrats do you think want to overthrow the government?

what?

What are you implying?

I'm trying to figure out

I'm trying to figure out what in the world you mean by the delightfully coy phrase "just don't get it."

Bal:  Tell me in your

Bal: 

Tell me in your own words what you think the tea parties are all about.  Please.  I really want to know.

And what purpose would that

And what purpose would that serve? You want me to throw some clay pigeons up in the air for ya' too?

then, that is

an odd way to ask.  I thought I was being pretty direct.

She didn't get it either. 

 

Do you think there would be

Do you think there would be all these tea parties if McCain had won the election and was proposing the same policies? I don't think so. 

Yes

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

not just yes

h*ll yes.

Many many more than republicans.

Truth to wackiness.

None. But on a more

None.

But on a more relevant point, the "government" includes both Democrats and Republicans.  If I say I wouldn't mind seeing the government overthrown, am I speaking of one side?  Which one?

The Pumas, democrats who are

The Pumas, democrats who are against Obama or upset at their party, were at the protests. The Libertarians were at the protests also. And finally independents were there too. This is more than just Conservatives. But, hey many conservatives are mad at their party too. So that too is part of it. So this protest was for Americans. Time to stand up to government waste.

Poor Schultzy!!!

This proves that the leftist snipers in the media are getting a defensive, and they are already taking shots anything they don't agree with. That would include the ridiculous claim that Fox News is inciting a revolt...and I am enjoying their media wide meltdown!

2010: A GOP Hill

You underestimate the

You underestimate the danger these lying leftists pose.  There are a great many people in this country who still get their news from ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN or even MSNBC and no where else, especially older people. 

I know many retired folks who thought the country was collapsing in 2008 because of the media coverage they saw on TV.  Most of them have been out of the regular work force for quite some time and they had no real idea what the state of employment was.  They thought it was the Depression all over again!

So too they will conclude these tea party folks are extremists and anti-Americans.  They will base this opinioon not upon any fact or first hand knowledge but what they have seen from these boobs on TV.

  

agreed

Schultz is forwarding the mentality and there is nothing there to buffer or offer a counter opinion.

It took a lot of prodding on my part (and a little humiliation) to get my Dad to watch something other than MSNBC.  (His daughter was out-thinking him on politics?) When he realized how much he was missing in the way of information he started to get it.  Now he's thinking Libertarian instead of RINO/GOP.  Now if I can just get my mom to stop watching The View...

Gosh.  You must be a

Gosh.  You must be a youngster!  I wish I could talk to my folks about daily events but they have left this world.

well

I have teenagers.  According to them I am pretty darn old. ;)

Kent, WA?

Kent, WA?

close enough

its a reasonable approximation to where I live, yes.

beautiful town, or it was anyways

haven't been there in a decade, and there was already stirrings of gang activity flushing over from Puyallup and Tacoma and down from Seatac. I lived there for about two years.

 

"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is like calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

"You spend your money anyway you want and respect other's rights to do the same"

its getting better

the warehouse district went downhill for a long time but the addition of the Kent Station has helped the area a lot.  (The kent-meridian area is still plagued with gang problems from time to time.)  Tacoma got a nice facelift.  I live more rural now (cascade foothills) but Kent is where I grew up and went to school.

What a...

Boob.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=17401 

Signed,

Corny McPoo 

"To be is to do." - Plato

"To do is to be." - Aristotle

"Do be do be do." - Sinatra

"The country does not feel

"The country does not feel the same way the teabaggers do." 

What, are tea party protesters not part of "the country" now? In Schultz's pea brain, does one have to be a supporter of higher taxes, huge spending, and big government to be a citizen? It sounds like Schultz would be in favor of "Nuremburg Laws" for these people.

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

Ed got the talking point, too, evidently.

"Avoid anything that would allude to the Boston Tea Party, and instead make unrelenting sex-act references whenever mentioning Tax Day Tea Parties."

I worry about Ed.  I really do.  I'm concerned the pressure is getting to him.  He's in so far over his head the lifeguards don't know where to search for him. 

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

Mike,Yeah, I

Mike,

Yeah, I think Schultz is in way over his head also. At best he should be broadcasting at midnight from a low watt radio station in, say, Davis, CA. It shows how very, very shallow the far-left host talent pool really is, for him to have been given a national cable news show. KOSNBC must have been desperate for a rabid liberal.

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

KSFO in Frisco has a nighttime guy

KSFO in Frisco has a nighttime guy, whose guests talk with ghosts and extraterrestrial beings. Shultz makes this guy seem normal.

You can't even get your toes damp in the far left talent pool!! 

 

Ed Schultz? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I wonder if he was as concerned about the loon toon moonbats who wanted to murder GW Bush these past eight years?

 Or does dissonant Schultz simply define that as 'speaking truth to power'?

http://locomotivebre...

Ed Schultz found his equal Robert Gibbs.

Ed Schultz a perfect spokesperson for the Obama White House i.e. a complete buffoon. 

OBTW ASSHAT "Burn the books" came from a lefty plant.

Not sure about what "FoxNews wants"

But I'm sure of two things.

1. Ed Schultz and MSNBC want the US Constitution to be ignored or trashed or both.

2. FoxNews' ratings blow MSNBC out of the water just as Rush Limbaugh's ratings blow Ed Schultz's out of the water. So, who is talking to a very narrow audience?

Hey, I got the wrong "CHANGE"!

www.loyaltoliberty.com

That does it. *Strangles

That does it.

*Strangles everyone like Ed Schulz*  IT IS NOT TEABAGGERS!!!!!  IT IS TEA PARTY PROTESTORS!!!  QUIT MAKING A MOCKERY!!!  WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED!!!

Sure

But of course. We have to support the government because all of the $787 billion stimulus, all of $400+ billion budget, and all of the other billions of "thrown money" on the wall ... it goes to the troops, you know? So, to oppose Obama's disaster of a fiscal plan is to ... um, er, ahhh ... oppose the troops.

Wait a mimute. Didn't Obama cut the defense budget?They cut the budget for the one part of the government they were using for the sake of persuasion.

How stupid are they? And how stupid are we for tolerating this nonsense?

Do you think that Fox News

Do you think that Fox News wants the government to be overthrown?  I don't know about Fox News, but I sure do - at the ballot box, dufus . . .

three boxes

 ballot, soap and cartridge. ACORN and registration of felons along with propaganda and voter fraud invalidated our first box. TEA days are the second. If the running dogs in the Media insist on silencing, debasing and rendering our second box useless, then we fall back on the third or fall as a country. Simple enough for Media to understand if they chose.

Time for me to go. I have a TEA party to attend:)

"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is like calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

"You spend your money anyway you want and respect other's rights to do the same"

Gave up on Rush

rsl775

Looks like Rush drove them off and now they are trying for Fox News in force.

Joke

I stopped on this douche's program yesterday, and he was explaining why we should let all the illegals into the country. The first reason was this: 25% of all businesses are run by immigrants! So, open up the doors, America!

 

The book buring woman is a plant

The woman ranting about the book burning was an ACORN plant trying to make conservatives look like Nazis.  I heard a tape of an ACORN training video the other night on the Quinn & Rose program in which they were practicing their lines in order to get on television.  One of the people was a woman practicing a series of inflammatory book buring lines including talking about burning all books on college campuses.  The looney left in action once again.

liberals do not believe in

liberals do not believe in free speech.

I think the

MSM is on the run.

I actually think they are running scared. It is the only explaination for this CRAZY talk!

And this guy and the others really are nuts.

Apparently Ed Schulz hasn't

Apparently Ed Schulz hasn't a clue that the left has been trying to overthrow the American government since the dawn of the Bolshevik revolution in 1917...and that it escalated from traitorous spying in the 1920s-1950s to outright violence in the 1960s and 70s (of which I'm sure he participated in)...

Hey Ed, project much?

As I've said before...irony has been lost on the left since 1917...and counting!

 

Murdoch has no interest in

Murdoch has no interest in 'overthrowing the government'...he just found a niche in the cable news channel market which he filled with FNN.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).