This was no April Fool’s joke. In the first two minutes of The Daily Show on Wednesday night, Comedy Central host Jon Stewart made angry faces and told Rush Limbaugh to "Get the f— out of here." He was channeling his inner Olbermann. After playing audio of Limbaugh saying he was leaving due to "absurd" New York tax hikes, Stewart angrily yelled "Finally!" to the screams of his whipped-up but always obedient liberal studio audience.
He exclaimed: "For years, for years, for years, New Yorkers have done everything in our power to get this guy to leave town!" These included: "We knew he was into drugs, so we cleaned up Times Square. We even opened up a Disney Store in the very place he would normally go to buy drugs."
He joked they bused people in for Gay Pride parades to annoy Limbaugh, hired Ivy Leaguers to play Middle Eastern taxi drivers, and declared that everyone who smokes cigars is a "douchebag." Stewart even claimed "We outlawed murder, figuring he was a guy with a taste for it."
He then ended the segment by saying, "If you're heading out from Uptown, take 42nd Street west to Ninth Avenue take a left, go down four blocks, Lincoln Tunnel's on your right, and you know what? Here's my EZ-Pass. Get the f— out of here."
More screams from the Stewart mob followed. This wasn’t meant to be funny. Stewart had a face that was screwed-up and angry. This is merely the latest example of how Stewart's drive-by shooting of CNN's Crossfire in 2004 was remarkably insincere. Stewart really doesn't think ideological mud fights accomplish anything -- as long as they're balanced, apparently.
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Oh Please
April 3, 2009 - 11:47 ET by jiffypopNot meant to be funny? Really? I think that you were taking Steward a bit too seriously. And the audience gets cue cards...you really think that people are that excited to hear the same tired joke over and over again?
Bridge
April 3, 2009 - 11:58 ET by cvgbuckeyeTake away the cameras and his suit and stewart is just another paranoid schizophrenic, sitting under the bridge with a bottle of Thunderbird wine, screaming obscenities at passersby.
On second thought, why insult these people under the bridge. stewart is just another run of the mill piece of white trash and even his most screaming rabidly angry fans know it. It takes one to know one; to coin a phrase.
They deserve each other, methinks.
never heard Rush spew this
April 3, 2009 - 16:04 ET by TruthMongernever heard Rush spew this kind of hateful language
silly libs
who's worst prez ever now?!!
Your comment is absolutely...
April 3, 2009 - 17:34 ET by jawebster1true. I listen to Rush three hours a day, five days a week and Rush does not talk like that. To know what liberals do and say, all you need to know is what they accuse Conservatives of doing and saying. Jim Webster
Stewart vs. Rush
April 6, 2009 - 05:47 ET by Sergeant ROCKAnd that's precisely the point. Look what happened with Rush's statement about wanting Obama's pilicies to 'fail'? If liberals had their way, Rush would've been charged with a hate crime.
Meanwhile, you have people like Stewart spewing hate on a daily basis and not so much a shrug. There's the hypocrisy.
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Jiffypop, I would agree
April 3, 2009 - 12:05 ET by LiberalliesJiffypop, I would agree with you that NB and other Conservatives take Steward way too seriously. I have seen this imbecile and the poor fool is not only your typical poorly informed Liberal, he is also NOT funny at all. However, there is a huge segment of our population, mainly 18 to 25 year olds that take this guy very seriously and who ONLY get their news from him and Colbert.
Not only have I debated plenty of Liberals who defend their position by saying, "well I heard on the Daily Show..." or "I heard on Colbert...", but studies also prove that millions in this age group use the Daily Show as their only source of news and form their political, social and economic opinions based on what they see there.
Thus, while this fool, who is too ashamed to call himself by his birth name is not funny at all, poorly informed and a Liberal idealogue, he has a lot of influence over a very large age group which scary enough is going to be the future of this nation in the no so distant future.
That is very true... and
April 3, 2009 - 13:24 ET by jiffypopThat is very true... and frankly dissapointing. Perhaps our youth need to reevaluate getting news from Comedy Central....
Yeah, well, people said the
April 3, 2009 - 13:29 ET by zfYeah, well, people said the same thing about Al Franken!
There is a BIG difference...
April 3, 2009 - 17:57 ET by jawebster1between Rush and Franken. Franken is like Stewart only far, far worse. When he still had his "failed" talk show I listened to him for ten minutes one day and I heard the ugliest, hate filled diatribe directed towards Rush that I had ever heard from one well known citizen to another. Hitler or Osama bin Laden never got worse treatment. Needless to say, I never listened to the hate monger again and to this day, I am still sorry I wasted those ten precious minutes of my life. Jim Webster
Wow, Stewart has a great
April 3, 2009 - 14:59 ET by ilikemugglesWow, Stewart has a great gig. As of 2004, 20% of people ages 18-29 claim that the Daily Show is their primary source for news, he can almost say whatever he likes, and he has lots of people covering for him, because he's just an entertainer and not a commentator.
And yet the same people who defend him are often the ones who cry foul when Rush Limbaugh, who also claims to be an entertainer, says something that they don't like.
Nice work if you can get it, I guess.
double
April 3, 2009 - 16:18 ET by MrShypost... sorry.
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April 3, 2009 - 16:23 ET by well99Just dont let it happen again..)J/K Cool Video!
Well
April 3, 2009 - 16:56 ET by MrShyThanks a lot! :) Was fun to make... and quite a challenge. Feel free to pass it around :):)
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JiffyPop
April 3, 2009 - 16:15 ET by MrShyBelieve me, if they're getting tix and going to a taping of his show, they most likely -- if not all (besides friends who might have been dragged to it) -- adore the moron/comedian and every one-liner and gesticulation that emanates from him.
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I think lil' Johnny Stewart is indeed very very angry and meant
April 4, 2009 - 19:50 ET by pahuberit. However, he plays it off like it is some joke. Watching his delivery it is easy to see the countless times he ruminates on air and wants others to see it as humor.
The tolls like jer & bal then come along for fun just to see if they can convince anyone other than what is obvious. Good luck trying to keep them on topic... or get a coherent answer.
I totally agree with you.
May 27, 2009 - 16:08 ET by joeAnneI totally agree with you. Maybe there should be something done about these things. And an alcohol rehab program would also be an option to solve this case.
So you don't have anything
April 3, 2009 - 11:52 ET by EdhenrySo you don't have anything of substance to offer, you then debase your show by personal attacks. And this audience likes it.
Which is worse, JS or his pavlov audience. At least JS knows how to make money off the co-dependent audience ("please like me. I attend the JS show and titter at all the usual inuendo regarding Nixon, W, Rush..
Can you imagine how narrow and uninformed the after show discussion would be at the local coffee shop.
Edh - and you can bet your bottom dollar every member
April 3, 2009 - 13:31 ET by Cape Conservativeof his 'pavlov audience' voted for 'the one'
We are so doomed if this represents the next generation!!!!
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Seems like stewart will
April 3, 2009 - 11:52 ET by MidAmericaSeems like stewart will follow the letterman model of starting a career by being funny but ultimately gets stuck in his own shtick and becomes a repetative old crank.
Kinda lame
April 3, 2009 - 11:54 ET by StarAZI used to love Jon, then stopped watching during the strike and never went back...Now, I see I am not missing that much...Harping on drug addiction...I hope no one in his family has faced this...like we have had to.
I really admire Rush. He
April 3, 2009 - 12:04 ET by SeashellI really admire Rush. He got hooked on pain killers, went to rehab and kicked it. That is not easy to do. My ex was hooked on vicodin and alcohol. It took him 8 yrs. of in and out of rehab to finally kick it.
I do as well
April 3, 2009 - 12:33 ET by MichelleCAs someone who has seen people battle addiction and beat it, I admire anyone with the ability to do so.
The problem with folks like Stewart is they only think drug and alcohol use is acceptable when liberals do it because that's "cool" and shows how "hip" they are. If a conservative has a problem, it shows that they're hypocritical. To me, it says a person is human and I can understand that. What I can't understand or can't accept is the double standard.
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Perhaps the conservative is
April 3, 2009 - 12:35 ET by balboaPerhaps the conservative is hypocritical because of his stance on drug abusers.
Show me the money quote
April 3, 2009 - 12:55 ET by CobraManWho's being hypocritical about drug abusers and what have they done that is, in your opinion, causing that hypocrisy? The fact that some drugs are illegal is,. in itself, not hypocritical, nor is the fact that the people selling those illegal drugs have committed crimes. The abusers themselves, in the majority of cases, are offered treatment, even in "Conservative" areas of the country, and at the tax payers expense, if such treatment is beyond their ability to pay. So, once again, where's the hypocrisy?
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there is a big difference
April 3, 2009 - 19:15 ET by puredmashiebetween an addiction to pain killers and using drugs for recreational purposes. that's something closed-minded libs find hard to comprehend, perhaps because they can't understand why anyone would take prescription painkillers for anything other reason than to get a buzz.
swing hard in case you hit it.
Oh good, Balboa
April 3, 2009 - 20:52 ET by UpNorththe DBT* is on the scene.
* Drive By Troll
Perhaps the conservative is
April 3, 2009 - 20:49 ET by botgPerhaps the conservative is hypocritical because of his stance on drug abusers.
what stance is that Bal? that they need to take personal responsibility and not rely on others to 'cure' them? any treatment program will tell you that!! Enabling makes people worse, it's the enabling left who are the true hypocrites because they SAY they want to help but DO that which hurts.
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Balboa, I am never shocked at your level of ignorance.
April 3, 2009 - 21:39 ET by pahuberPlease explain the conservative "stance on drug abusers"?
Moron.
Evidence, bal....
April 3, 2009 - 23:22 ET by HillbillyKingalways help make your point.....
I want to let you read along with me a quote from Jerry Colangelo about
substance abuse, and I think you'll find that he's very much right…
;-)
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
I was addicted to prescription pain killers, and
April 4, 2009 - 09:39 ET by thebutlerdiditseveral other prescribed very strong drugs. I took morphine, for goodness' sakes, with Oxycotin. I didn't steal it, or lie about it, but was given it freely. Would I have during the time I was badly hooked on it, of I couldn't have gotten it? I'd like to honestly say, no, but I can't. It was hell to beat. I am very open about this, and the funny thing is, the only people who have ever said nasty things about it to me, were liberals. Hypocrisy, much? Oh, yeah. I have stood up and told this in churches when 2,000 people were attending, and not one soul was ever anything other than kind to me. Many people have called me, and thanked me for telling the story. So, I love how people who have loose morals, probably have smoked a ton of pot, and possibly done much harder street drugs, will try to discredit people over a drug addiction especially one not of their making. Really lowdown.
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
Drive-By Troll
April 6, 2009 - 05:42 ET by Sergeant ROCKWho's stance?
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Let me get this
April 3, 2009 - 11:57 ET by TexasteacherLet me get this straight...jon stewart calling someone a douchebag? "Hi kettle, this is pot. You're black"
Talk about someone who needs to take a flying f*** out of here. He needs to take his little butt-buddies colbert and maher and go live out their dreams of worshiping at the feet of chavez. This country does not need a**holes like them. And while they're at it, maybe they can convince that jacka** savior of theirs obama to leave too. Or better yet, save everyone the trouble and just jump off the nearest bridge.
obama's notion of bi-partisanship is telling conservatives to shut up and do what he wants.
He's Career Building
April 3, 2009 - 11:58 ET by JustAlI guess he figures that once his show ends on CC, he can always go to work as a "serious journalist" for CNN or MSNBC. At least he's consistent, and like the majority of today's hip comedians. . . not funny.
CNN or MSNBC? PSHAW! Clearly
April 3, 2009 - 12:03 ET by MrSnugglesCNN or MSNBC? PSHAW! Clearly he wants a job in Obamas cabinet.
too late, Al
April 3, 2009 - 14:48 ET by i was just thinking... CNN international already carries both Stewart's and Colbert's shows as part of their world-wide line-up.
But remember, there's no liberal bias at CNN. Only FOX is biased. Or so the libs tell us.
He's got nothing to look forward to...
April 3, 2009 - 11:59 ET by SlyrrAs a matter of history, whenever a society or group of people become so wicked that the righteous leave them, or they cast the righteous out from among them, it never winds up good for that city/place/country.
I stopped watching these losers and their little programs ages ago, and I encourage everyone else to do the same thing. If your cable or TV provider carries these shows, call in and selectively cancel them. Don't support these people anymore. They don't deserve it.
Only when they realize that without us, they have no money, will they come crawling and begging forgiveness (if even then).
Tax Audits
April 3, 2009 - 12:00 ET by slickwillie2001There should be an investigation in New York of why Limbaugh was tax-audited 12 years in a row. The IRS and its state versions must not be used for political harrassment, although it's been done for decades. FDR used it very openly and got away with it as well.
Agree on Stewart, he will end up like Letterman, the sooner the better.
What is really funny is that
April 3, 2009 - 12:04 ET by MrSnugglesWhat is really funny is that Limbaugh does not live in NY, has not for a long time. Yet the elitist, intillectual liberals don't know this. Probably because they never listen to his show.
Mr.Snuggles, It is a well
April 3, 2009 - 12:18 ET by LiberalliesMr.Snuggles,
It is a well known fact that the loudest and harshest critics of Rush Limbaugh have never bothered to listen to him. They get shorts from Media Matters, from the media and they formulate their opinion based on very biased reports.
I have friends who have NEVER listened to him yet they tell me how much they hate him. Liberals are such ridiculous creatures.
jumped the shark
April 3, 2009 - 12:06 ET by sawing battajon,
not funny, only spiteful, hate filled language. did you feel the same about your liberal friends who have had drug issues? Just askin'
anyway, i thought liberals were the "open minded" among us.... sure seems like Jon is unwilling to accept points of view other than his own.
Adddiction is a sickness,
April 3, 2009 - 15:18 ET by red_dragon311Adddiction is a sickness, an illness, a disabilty ...we've been told this for years right?
and people with this affliction need to be pitied and helped, right?
Let us not forget he's deaf.
so a deaf person who had an unfortunate addiction is public enemy #1?
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I used to watch Stewart and Colbert
April 3, 2009 - 12:06 ET by dark_dsI used to watch Stewart and Colbert ....I found both funny to differnt degrees but things changed. I have no problem laughing at myself and my world view ... but I expect political satire to be equal opportunity offenders. Stewart has turned into a worshiping Obama hack ... so I dont watch him at all. Colbert still remains witty but even he is sliding down the slope of irrelevance.
"America is on the Short Bus to Socialism"
sliding down the slope of irrelevance
April 3, 2009 - 12:12 ET by MillerTimeWarpI like that. Folks seem to forgt that Stewart, Colbert are in the entertainment industry. But they just kill their own careers. I used to love the old MASH episodes. Then Alan Alda would get preachy.....goodbye entertainment.
MASH and Alan Alda
April 3, 2009 - 13:45 ET by Kingfish17Don't get me started about this Bozo!
And I love how he and his sanctimonious buddies would sit around their tent getting drunk, but were always sober when the wounded suddenly showed up. How did that happen?
"When will Barack Obama apologize to the American people for destroying their once great nation?" - MSM 2012
sober?
April 3, 2009 - 13:59 ET by SickofLibsDamn! That explains why Grandpa has that thumb growing out of his forehead!
Not Alda so much,
April 3, 2009 - 20:55 ET by UpNorthas Mike Farrell. He was the sanctimonious, preachy dip-s**t who really ruined the show.
This was very funny. Not
April 3, 2009 - 12:09 ET by balboaThis was very funny -- and meant to be funny. Not everyone loves Rush! like those here.
balboa
April 3, 2009 - 12:23 ET by well99Gee cant wait for Jon to make fun of Obama and his drug problem.That should be a real knee slapper.I not a Rush fan.I dont like/dislike him.At least Rush make no bones about his politics.Steward is hypocritical lying piece of garbage.He is in a fight with Matthews on who gets to be Obama's intern.
Stewart, to my knowledge,
April 3, 2009 - 12:30 ET by balboaStewart, to my knowledge, has never said "I'm fair and balanced"!
And as for Matthews, he mocks him regularly, as well as others on CNN and FN. He's also one of the few who's actually made fun of Obama and some of his decisions.
balboa
April 3, 2009 - 12:40 ET by well99Gee seems I remember Steward whineing on Crossfire how they were tearing the country up with their politics.Oh wait it must be only Steward is allowed to push his agenda.Oh it is comedy...tee hee.As far as him makeing fun of Obama.Wow probaly as much as he did Bush right.Maybe just half as much..a third...a 1/100..maybe 1/1000 in the same amont of time.He is another Obermann.Just a political shill.Their comedic ability is almost equal.
Do you honestly think
April 3, 2009 - 12:43 ET by balboaDo you honestly think Stewart is "tearing the country up" with his show?
bal
April 3, 2009 - 12:47 ET by well99Do you really think Crossfire was?Apparently Jon did.I guess it is better if his view is the only one voiced.
No, I don't think Crossfire
April 3, 2009 - 12:51 ET by balboaNo, I don't think Crossfire was. As for Stewart's criticism of it, I think he meant more the constant back-and-forth bickering by people on the show that went nowhere, not that people backed their particular ideologies.
balboa
April 3, 2009 - 12:59 ET by well99So it is better to be like Jon and push his agenda via so called comedy.No view but his acceptable.I have seen the show bal.He is good at misdirection.He is good at gaming people.I mean that in the pre-comp days way.It was when someone would put words in your mouth,distort what you say,not give you the chance to answer.That is all Steward does.Oh he will throw a few tidbits here and there so it can be said he doesnt just smear..I mean make fun of the right.He is a shill same as Obermann.
Meh. I disagree. It'll be
April 3, 2009 - 13:04 ET by balboaMeh. I disagree. It'll be interesting the deeper we get in the Obama administration.
balboa
April 3, 2009 - 13:10 ET by well99You have the right to disagree.Your wrong of course but that is your right.I turn it to The Daily Show occasionally.But it is to boring so I dont stay long.I seen when Cramer was on there and it reminded me of fight that had been fixed.Jon scolded him and Cramer did his contrition.Talk about a setup.
I see bal
April 3, 2009 - 13:02 ET by MrShySo you'd rather have just back bickering.... or is it forth bickering?... but not balanced back-forth, where people can continue to listen and weigh both sides?
Got it.
And now it's "bickering" and not balanced/even dialogue?
Got that, too.
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Did you think Crossfire was
April 3, 2009 - 13:06 ET by balboaDid you think Crossfire was balanced / even dialogue?
It was two sides going at
April 3, 2009 - 13:17 ET by MrShyIt was two sides going at it. That, by default, makes it balanced and even.
You chose to reduce/marginalize it to the label of "bickering". Deliberately, of course.
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April 3, 2009 - 12:52 ET by MrShyVery much so, an emphatic YES to that.
He's a big contributer to the hateful -- and I mean, not on blog sites but parading it in public -- vibe/tone of liberals and the world today. Sure, I'm in NYC so I get it in spades, but it's all over. I work next to a jerk who yells out loud, cursing, about Rush, Bush, anything GOP, his love for Michelle, watches Jon Videos during his break, yada yada.
Do I do this, conversely, toward his political figures (sorry, idols), screaming about nonsense? No. And even in non-lib cities and areas, I'll bet most of us conservatives don't behave like this in front of others, when we don't *assume* they think exactly like us.
Jon is part of a media-rich/strong influential hate-the-GOP parade that truly is not interested in dissenting voices/ideas.
So, yes, his show indeed contributes to tearing up the country. IMHO.
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Do you think Rush! and
April 3, 2009 - 12:53 ET by balboaDo you think Rush! and Hannity are interested in dissenting voices?
Balboa, YES! Rush and
April 3, 2009 - 13:04 ET by LiberalliesBalboa,
YES! Rush and Hannity are interested in dissenting voices!!!!!
Like ALL Liberals that do not listen to them, you do not have a clue of the fact that these two individuals constantly take on Liberal callers!
Not only that, Balboa, did you know that when Bill Maher was kicked out of Politically Incorrect, it was Rush Limbaugh and Shawn Hannity who were the biggest and largest supporters of Bill Maher and his right to say whatever he wanted even though they 100% disagreed with him?
You may also want to be interested in the fact that it was Conservatives like Rush, Hannity, etc who came out defending Howard Stern when he also got in trouble for what he said on his radio show, once again even though they disagreed with him!!!!
Balboa, you REALLY need to stop reading, seeing and listening to only Liberal shows that potray Rush, Hannity, etc as intolerant fools. This is NOT them at all. How can you consider yourself an educated person and make the assumption that Hannity and Rush do not like dissenting voices? WOW!
You Liberals love to claim how well rounded you are, how open minded you are, yet you do not have a clue about Conservatives.
The problem with you Balboa, is that you get your "facts" from idiots like Stewart, Colbert, etc.
Wow, I honestly can't believe that you posted the question above.
But it proves that you attack Conservatives like Rush and Hannity without having a clue to who they are.
sad Balboa, truly sad!
Sorry, I disagree. They're
April 3, 2009 - 13:11 ET by balboaSorry, I disagree. They're only interested in dissenting voices as a chance to mock them and belittle them.
Balboa, Obviously you
April 3, 2009 - 13:27 ET by LiberalliesBalboa,
Obviously you have NEVER listened to Hannity, Rush, etc.
While they do make fun of some very poorly informed Liberals, I have seen Hannity and Rush take calls from Liberals where both sides respected each other.
Hannity, especially, likes Liberal repeat callers who are respectful to him and he returns in kind.
Michael Medved ONLY takes Liberal callers and he has a conversation with them.
WOW! you do not have a clue to what youa re talking about here.
Just be man enough to admit that you do not listen to these Conservatives with enough frequency to know what you are talking about.
That you must believe that Hannity, Rush, etc do not like dissenting voices in order to justify your dislike for them is on you. But at least try to be honest!
On the other hand, I hear with as much frequency Air America and if you want to find intolerance, hate, and dislike for dissenting point of views, listen to them.
It never ceases to amaze me how the left in America accuses the right for what the left does and for who the left is.
I can tell you from personal experience that being a Latino who is a Conservative, I am constantly attacked by Liberals who call me, "House Negro", "Uncle Tom", sell out, etc, etc, etc.
I can guarantee you that the intolerance in American is much stronger on the left that on the right.
I was pushed out of my last job due to my Conservative views! explain that! an institution ran by super, duper Liberals who walked around the halls proclaiming and preaching tolerance and they push out anyone that disagrees with their political views. and I worked at a very well known Liberal college.
So don't come in here claiming things about individuals that is obvious you have never listened to.
GREAT POST !!!
April 3, 2009 - 13:47 ET by MrShyLiberallies :)
And like you being a latino/minority Conservative, I am an artist NY'er Conservative, and I pay the price quite dearly for it.
My liberal mother and brother no longer tolerate political talk/debate, and ask that I not "rankle" them, essentially, as did my liberal cousin.
An evidently hard-liberal ex-musician friend, unsolicited, chewed me out personally (meaning, attacked and defined me personally in his rant) two times before I firmly responded that he knock it off and be respectful if he wants to discuss/debate. My reward? A book-long vitriolic/hate-laden tirade of a personal email, that tore me apart personally, professionally, even was borderline-threatening in tone.
Another one called me scum and wished for my death. Two or three times, liberals in public have happily called for Bush to die or be assasinated in front of me (at a party and at work more than once.)
Bal, you're so wrong if you think there's an equal balance of hate/anger (the real kind) on both sides.
I will bet you Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly, Rove (who seems like a really cool guy on TV) are all really nice, normal people in person, to ANYONE. Meanwhile, I'll also bet you Olbermann, Matthews, Stewart, and so many others, all in their own way, are insufferable to be around.
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MrShy...I am sorry...
April 3, 2009 - 13:55 ET by PrairieSky(but not surprised) to hear of the slings and arrows that you have had to endure from some of your friends(so-called) and family...Unfortunately, this is all too typical from those on the liberal left. It is almost impossible to enter into a serious debate or discussion about anything political without it degenerating into a personal attack. It seems that the moment their ideas are seriously challenged, rather than defend them (which is close to impossible, and they secretly know it), they too often will attempt to hijack the discourse and turn it into an attack. I've been in the same situation myself, as have most conservatives, at some point or other.
Hang in there, and just know that you're most certainly NOT alone!
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
PrairieSky
April 3, 2009 - 16:04 ET by MrShyThank you!! Yes, I'm sure I'm not alone, which is a big reason sites like NB exist, I'm sure. :p
And you're absolutely spot-on with how they operate, which I guess is to be expected, like you say, when the foundation of their beliefs is shaky, at best.
And I never even got around to all the racial slings/arrows I got from all of my hip HS friends (well, people I got reacquainted with who I really didn't know) who suddenly *knew* all about me and the way I was as a kid. Most were black, too, and felt the need to define me and make me feel bad for not loving The O. I would have laughed more if it all wasn't so sad.
Oh, btw, this:
http://newsbusters.o...
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MrShy...You're welcome...And isn't it funny...
April 3, 2009 - 16:24 ET by PrairieSkythat those who believe themselves to so socially "open-minded" and racially/religiously/gender "tolerant" and throw those words around every five seconds, seem to be the among the most closed-minded and intolerant in the country, if you commit the great sin of not believing as they do?
And you're right...It is sad.
( and thanks for the link!)
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
MrShy, Wow, a
April 3, 2009 - 17:45 ET by LiberalliesMrShy,
Wow, a Conservative artist in New York. So you know exactly what I have gone through.
Liberals who assume you are a Liberal because of who you are and they are shocked to find out that you are not like them. They claim to love open mindness, and to embrace different opinions until they face them face to face.
New York City is the most intolerant Liberal town in the United States, well actually San Francisco is the number one intolerant city on planet Earth.
At the university that I used to work my boss and her Liberal companions would constantly come to me and attack my Conservative views. However, if I dared to send them an e-mail, speak against Liberalism, they would run to the HR department and complain about me. It was a freaking surreal world. People do not realize how much Liberals hate speech that goes against their views.
You have no idea the field day I have with my Liberal friends who embrace Obama, yet they attack Rush for drug use and Bush for his alleged use of cocaine.
Then you have poor fools like Balboa who love to laugh at the misfortunes of individuals like Rush who became addicted to a prescribed medicine and then turn around and defend retards like Obama who used cocaine. Sadly, Balboa can't tell the difference between seeking a recreational drug, Obama, and getting hooked on a drug because you used it for a real medical issue. Sad, incredibly sad that Balboa and the rest of the Liberal scum find the latter funny.
Poor fools like Balboa are too blind to realize their hypocrisy.
Karl Rove...
April 21, 2009 - 00:41 ET by williams411is a cool guy? Are you talking about the same guy who helped out a CIA agent? Rove should have been in prison a long time ago. As far as liberals giving you hell...please!!!...do you know how many times I've had to hear neo cons yell at me about how "obama is the anti christ", how their friends "are gonna assassinate him", how "obama and the libs are gonna take away your guns", how "obama is a terrorist supporter", how "obama hates america"? If anyone needs to chill out its the neo cons.
Trix are for kids, fox is for fools
Welcome to my parlor....
April 21, 2009 - 10:38 ET by Tailgunner...said the spider to the fly.
Rove 'helped out' a CIA agent? Did he lend him $20 'till payday?
First of all, Richard Armitage of the State Department first 'outed' Valerie Plame to Richard Novak...and Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald knew this the entire time.
Yet Armitage was never prosecuted for a 'crime' liberals called 'treason' when a Republican was accused of it.
Why isn't Armitage in 'prison', pal? Cause he's a liberal, that's why.
Treason is a liberal politician's job description.
And I'd like to know how many times you've heard 'neocons' (a term you obviously have no clue of its meaning) call for the assassination of Obama.
Has it been as many times as we've all heard for the assassination of President George W Bush?
Please tell me how many times you've reported such threats to law enforcement. I'm absolutely certain you'd jump at the chance to send a 'neocon' (whatever that is) to prison.
I seriously doubt you've heard any such threat...like that reporter who claimed at a Palin rally she heard 'Kill Him!' but three dozen federal, state and local security officers at the scene never heard it.
A President who practically gets on his knees in front of an Arab tyrant, and then lies through his %&#@& teeth about it,
...and sits through hours of denunciations (of a country he was elected to defend) by tinpot Latin American buffoons and laughs about it,
...and sends video Valentines to Islamic theocrats who are sworn to atomize Israel (and a pretty good chunk of the Middle East in the process),
...appeases Russia to the point of throwing our newest NATO allies under the bus,
...while he and his wife deliver calculated diplomatic slaps in the faces of our staunchest allies...
...and beg Communist totalitarian police states to lend this country money that might be repaid this century.
I'd say that's enough reason for anyone to be concerned about this Marxist loose cannon.
Not to mention Obama's blatant fascist takeover of the banking industry, the automotive industry, and the arrogation of the same authority to nationalize any business it sees fit, and the imminent, deliberate destruction of the finest health care system in the world.
And liberals have had a one hundred fifty year history of disarming Americans, from Irish-Americans in NYC, to African-Americans in the South AND the North, to helpless women, old men, students and churchgoers today.
Britain and Australia capped decades of gun restrictions with a complete prohibition on guns so sweeping that their Olympic pistol teams had to practice outside the country.
Canada's wasting billions on a gun registry that suffers from massive civil disobedience and has not solved one single gun crime.
In one case Canada mailed a gun owner's new registration certificate to a member of the Hell's Angels motorcycle club. The Angel hand delivered the certificate saying that he didn't own a gun, but now he knew where to find one.
Obama's machine is now pushing for more gun control and outright bans on ammunition and certain classes of weapons. And they will not stop, unless they are stopped, until they've outlawed every single lawfully owned firearm in American hands..
You chill out, pal. So far everything's going your way. (So far.)
But others in history have made the mistake of underestimating the American people...oh, btw... anyone seen Osama bin Laden lately??
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
Way to start your
April 21, 2009 - 11:45 ET by fitzfongWay to start your NewsBusters account, douchebag. First you trot out the long-ago debunked Valerie Plame "outing" cliche(apparently facts and you are not even casual acquaintances), then you line up a series of lame straw men to bash non-existent "neo cons" and finally, you drop a tired tagline about Fox News. Anyone with at least half a brain knows that the real journalistic fraud exists on the left with the broadcast networks, MSNBC, the dying print media and, especially CNN. It will probably be fun to routinely slap you around rhetorically, but I prefer actual challenges, so it may wear thin after a while.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Sorry, but you're wrong. I
April 3, 2009 - 14:34 ET by balboaSorry, but you're wrong. I have watched / listened to both.
Balboa, you're becoming boring and unedifying.
April 4, 2009 - 09:14 ET by TailgunnerGet off the keyboard and let your parents continue this discussion.
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
As they should be. By the
April 3, 2009 - 13:31 ET by fitzfongAs they should be. By the way, Bill Maher has had his moments, but Jon Stewart was NEVER funny.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
You didn't respond to
April 3, 2009 - 14:29 ET by bretzysdudeYou didn't respond to ANYTHING he said at all. It was just a repeat of a previous comment you made. How have you stayed this long on this site and be this feeble-minded?
bal
April 3, 2009 - 13:08 ET by MrShyI don't THINK they are, I KNOW they are. Hannity, like O'Reilly, very much wants lots of liberal-sided voices on his show, and I don't recall him leaning forward, waiting for "the kill" response when they talk, vs. Stewart, who really is borderline-unhinged. He's even this way when a very mild-mannered, polite, patient guy like William Kristol is on his show. You can see he's frothing as he talks.
I don't listen much to Rush, but again, he is a **conservative radio talk show host**.
You are being intellectually evasive and dishonest, comparing him to a *comedian*. All *should* be fair game for a *comedian*.
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
Do you honestly thinkApril
April 3, 2009 - 13:52 ET by LiberalliesDo you honestly thinkApril 3, 2009 - 13:43 ET by balboa
Do you honestly think Stewart is "tearing the country up" with his show?
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I do not believe that Stewart (who is too ashamed to use his real name) is tearing the country up by himself. It is him, Olberman, Chris Matthews, CNN, NBC, CBS, Comedy Central, ABC, New York Times, San Francisco Chronicle, LA times, Air America, etc, etc, etc who are doing it.
Whether Liberlas like to admit it or not, it is Liberals who are intolerant and are taking America in a direction where this country will not survive. Stewart is just another useful tool of the gay agenda, Democratic agenda, abortion agenda, intolerant agenda, anti-Christian agenda.
he uses crude humor with misleading questions to make Conservative guest look foolish.
As I said, he enjoyed making fun of Bush, I have yet to hear him make fun of Obama's drug usage.
and I hope you have the mental capacity to understand that Stewart, Colbert along with news organizations are shaping the mind of 18-25 year olds who will be running this nation in the future, (God help us all).
Turn off Stewart once in a while and watch something a bit more tolerant and educated Balboa, it is obvious by your responses on this forum that your brain is not all there.
I have always found that Conservatives are a lot more willing to watch, hear and Liberal's like Stewart, New York Times, etc than Liberals are willing to hear, listen and read Rush, Hannity, Newsbusters, etc, etc, etc.
A day doesn't go by that I do not check at least two Liberal sources and two Conservative sources. I find that my Liberal friends are stuck on LIberal sources only.
Amazing how Liberals love Stewart....why do you think that is, Balboa? because the man trashes Conservatives. Be honest to admit this.
Wow Balboa, You really
April 3, 2009 - 12:42 ET by LiberalliesWow Balboa,
You really miss the mark!!!!! on this one!
No, Stewart has never come out and claimed to be Fair and Balanced, however, he has come out and claimed that he is an equal opportunist comedian.
I would not have a problem with this piece of human filth if he at least was man enough to use his real name and if he was man enough to say on television that he is a super, duper, incredible Liberal.
However, like all Liberals who are on television and use their platform to influence Americans, he is not honest enough to say, I am a Liberal!
Hannity, Rush, Ingraham, Coulter, etc, etc, etc, etc, hate them or love them, at least they tell you right up front they are Conservatives.
Colbert, Stewart, the New York Times, San Francisco Chronicle, etc and the reporters that work for them and the research teams that work for them are ultra-Liberals, yet they have the gull to deny this or not say it right up front.
The problem with Stewart (who is not man enough to use his real name) is not that the man is not funny, but that millions of young Americans 18-25 or so, get their ONLY news from him. He knows that and he does everything in his power to influence them with Liberal ideology.
If Stewart (who is too ashamed to use his real name) would come out and say, hey I am a Liberal and I love making fun of Conservatives, I would have a lot of respect for this fool.
I don't like Bill Maher at all, but at least the man tells you where he is coming from, that he is a crazed out Liberal who believes Conservative ideology is dangerous. I 100% disagree with him, but I can respect him.
Anyway, I am still waiting for the day that Stewart, Colbert and all those Liberals that have attacked Rush Limbaugh for his addiction to a pain killer will go after Obama for his usage of Cocaine and Marijuana, what do you think Balboa, do you think these Liberals have the balls to go after Obama for the same thing that they are going after Rush?
How any Liberal can attack Rush with a straight face after voting for a President that used Cocaine, is beyond me.
Liberals=pathetic hypocrites.
Get over the fact that he
April 3, 2009 - 12:45 ET by balboaGet over the fact that he changed his name. People in entertainment have done this for YEARS. Good grief, how silly...
So if Stewart came out one night and said, "Hey, everyone! I'm a liberal!" you'd feel better. You actually need that kind of disclaimer.
Balboa, 1) yes, if this
April 3, 2009 - 12:55 ET by LiberalliesBalboa,
1) yes, if this idiot, who is too ashamed to use his real name, came out and told his audience that his a hard-core, crazed out, foaming at the mouth Liberal who hates Conservatives, I would respect him. The poorly informed audience that he has would at least know exactly where he is coming from.
Whether you like it or not, his audience use him as their only news source. that is why he needs to tell them his point of view. GET IT?!
2) I see that you avoided answering if you would find it amusing if Stewart, who is too ashamed to use his birth name, would make fun of Obama's cocaine usage.
Why do you think Stewart makes fun of Rush's addiction to a prescription drug and stays silent about Obama's drug usage, eh?
He had no problem making fun of President Bush, why won't he make fun of Obama's drug usage?
3) How old are you to find his childish, crude, poorly informed humor funny? I understand from an 18 to 25 year old who has been educated in a public high school and a Liberal college, but wow, the man is FAR from funny.
Just like I don't find Glenn Beck funny or interesting, I do not find Stewart, who is too ashamed to use his real name, funny.
By the way the mantra of, "everyone in hollywood changes their name" is more proof that Stewart is but a follower who does not have a clue how to be a leader and who is too ashamed of his Eastern European background.
I say good grief to you who you find funny a poorly informed individual who is not honest, who is too much of a coward to make fun of Obama's cocaine usage.
C'mon Balboa, why do you think he does not make fun of Obama's Cocaine usage?!
this is one of the single, must hypocritical points of any and all Liberals who trashed Bush for allegedly using cocaine and Limbaugh for getting addicted to a prescribe medicine.
If Stewart would have the balls to make fun of Obama as well as Rush, I could at least respect him. Although, I do not have a clue how you find his childish humor funny.
1. That's bizarre and weird.
April 3, 2009 - 13:00 ET by balboa1. That's bizarre and weird. If people use this as their only news source, that's their fault, not his.
2. Not sure that Obama's drug use is a real comedy gold mine. Other things are, and he's used them.
3. The man is funny. People of all ages can see that. You must not watch much.
Do you criticize John Wayne for changing his name? Of all the dumb things to get upset about...
Balboa,1) That's
April 3, 2009 - 13:20 ET by LiberalliesBalboa,
1) That's bizzare? sorry Balboa, bizzare or not, millions of Americans use him as their only news source. This is a proven fact that HE knows.
Why are you against him coming out and saying who he is, a Liberal?
2) Not sure if Obama's drug usage is comedy? why is Rush's? eh?
The FACT is that Stewart (who is too ashamed to use his real name) makes fun of Rush because he hates him.
So, according to you, making fun of Rush's plight and struggle of becoming addicted to a prescription drug due to an ear problem is funny(so much for Liberal compassion, right Balboa). But Obama seeking, using and snorting cocaine out of his own free will is not?
The fact is that Stewart is your typical Libearl coward who knows that if he makes fun of Obama he will be eaten alive by the administration, New York times, San Francisco Chronicle, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, NBC, etc, etc, etc, etc.
it is NOT that it is not funny, but the fact that Stewart knows that there will be hell to pay with LIberals if he dares make fun of their Messiah.
Why do you adore defending Libtards Balboa, why?
3) Yes, I attack Tom Cruise, John Wayne and everyone else in Hollywood who took on a stage name. Stewart, if you do not know, changed his name because he was too ashamed of his Eastern European name. You might want to look into the bacground of those that you adore, worship and laugh with before you start defending them.
Just like you do not have a clue about Rush and Hannity, you do not have a clue to who Stewart (too ashamed to use his real name) is.
This retard speaks of tolerance, equality, not being ashamed of who you are and what you do, yet the imbecile is too ashamed to use his real name. HELLO! don't you find this a bit hypocritical?
WOW Balboa, even for you, you are slow today!
By the way, just like I use to watch a lot of Bill Maher in Politically Incorrect, I use to watch a lot of Stewart....that was before I matured, grew up and realized that his humor is digusting, childish, crude...and in fact not humor at all. Hopefully you'll mature soon too.
don't assume what I watch or don't watch my friend.
I'm not against him saying
April 3, 2009 - 13:59 ET by balboaI'm not against him saying he's a liberal. I just don't think there's any point to it.
Rush is a bombastic blowhard who asserts very aggressively that he knows all, and is wiser than anyone. For him to then fall victim to something he so aggressively disdains falls into the realm of ironically hilarious. Obama has many other irons in the fire to use comedically, some of which Stewart has already used.
I have watched Hannity. Listened to Hannity. Listened to Rush.
Changing your name is not the HUGE DISGRACE that you are trying soooooo hard to make it out to be.
"dont' assume what I watch or don't watch my friend."
Right back atcha.
bal
April 3, 2009 - 14:11 ET by MrShy"some of which Stewart has already used."
Like?
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
And again, didn't respond
April 3, 2009 - 14:31 ET by bretzysdudeAnd again, didn't respond to any of his three points.
FEEBLE-MINDED!
Try reading.
April 3, 2009 - 14:36 ET by balboaTry reading.
Balboa, Ok, you claim
April 3, 2009 - 17:35 ET by LiberalliesBalboa,
Ok, you claim that you listen to Rush and Hannity, etc.
You are lying and I am NOT making an assumption. If you truly listened and watched them you would know that what you are saying about them not liking dissenting voices is 100% a lie!
Rush takes Liberal calls, he will have an exchange with those that are not "seminar" callers. If you listen to the show, you know what is ment by a "seminar" caller.
Hannity takes Liberal calls all the time. If they allow a back and forth conversation, Hannity will keep them on. He has had long and meaningful exchanges with Liberals that keep on calling him back and he takes on all the time.
In his Foxnews show, Hannity, Hannity constantly has Liberals that he debates. On his great American Panel he always has at least one Liberal.
Once again, Michael Medved, who I know you do not who he is, ONLY takes Liberal callers.
Thus, you are lying and you and I both know.
I do not need to assume about what you watch and don't watch. It is not obvious, but a fact that you do not listen to Rush or Hannity or watch with enough frequency Hannity to know that what you are saying is a huge lie.
Balboa, try to be an honest Liberal. I know it is an oxymoron, but it is possible.
Rush and Hannity do stay away from dissenting opinions, they take it right on and if they are respectful and allow a back and forth, Rush and Hannity have a meaningful exchange.
Stop lying and get a clue.
Balboa, Balboa....wow! you
April 3, 2009 - 17:58 ET by LiberalliesBalboa, Balboa....wow! you said......
April 3, 2009 - 14:59 ET by balboa
I'm not against him saying he's a liberal. I just don't think there's any point to it.
Rush is a bombastic blowhard who asserts very aggressively that he knows all, and is wiser than anyone. For him to then fall victim to something he so aggressively disdains falls into the realm of ironically hilarious. Obama has many other irons in the fire to use comedically, some of which Stewart has already used.
I have watched Hannity. Listened to Hannity. Listened to Rush.
Changing your name is not the HUGE DISGRACE that you are trying soooooo hard to make it out to be.
"dont' assume what I watch or don't watch my friend."
Right back atcha.
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Now I know you do not listen to Rush. Rush is not a bombastic blowhard that aggresevily claims to know everything. he is just 100% sure of his beliefs. This is something that Liberals like you hate with an incredible passion. Liberals like you can't stand individuals from with an opposing view that stand their ground.
But it is obvious why you are defending Jon Stewart....you hate Rush Limbaugh, as it is obvious from your post and you love the fact that Stewart made fun of a tragic event in Limbaugh's life.
You are one sad, sad Liberal kid, you truly are.
You claim to dislike Rush Limbaugh for what Jon Stewart does. Yet you embrace Stewart. Are you truly so blind to your obvious and sad hypocritical stand?
Stewart is the bombastic, blowhard who loves to call names and make fun of those individuals he disagrees with. Please tell me how Jon Stewart's actions are different from what you believe Rush Limbaugh does?
You Liberals are such immense hypocrites that i am no longer surprised by it.
Stop claiming that Rush Limbaugh does what your Liberals gods do.
Incredible that you find Stewart making fun of Rush's prescription drug use funny, yet you are unwilling to realize the immense hypocrisy by Stewart and Liberals like you who do not wish to make fun of Obama's recreational drug usage.
bal & lib... bal, really :p
April 3, 2009 - 18:12 ET by MrShyBal, it's agressive, bombastic, angry/hate-filled blowhards -- **COMEDIAN OR OTHERWISE** -- that say things directed at fellow celebrities (or anyone) like "get the f**k out" of such-such place.
Seriously, up is down and north is south with you a lot of times.
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
good to see you
April 3, 2009 - 18:19 ET by bigtimerLa...
Couldn't have said it better.
The hypocrisy does get old.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
"Rush is not a bombastic
April 3, 2009 - 18:25 ET by balboa"Rush is not a bombastic blowhard that aggresevily claims to know everything. he is just 100% sure of his beliefs."
Same thing.
boa... No it isn't that
April 3, 2009 - 18:35 ET by bigtimerboa...
No it isn't that same difference.
If you have beliefs that you 100% believe in...that does not make one a blowhard....and he doesn't claim to know everything, he says thanks to many callers with their ideas he never thought of or knew about.
Listen to his shows instead of pretending you know what you are talking about Rush...
Btw...he never says he is right 100% of the time, he says 999/10ths of the time...some such...with one arm tied behind his back to-boot.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Oh, well, 99/100ths. That's
April 3, 2009 - 18:37 ET by balboaOh, well, 99/100ths. That's completely different...
And, for the billionth time, I HAVE listened.
boa... Oops...sorry about
April 3, 2009 - 18:46 ET by bigtimerboa...
Oops...sorry about that typo...but you do have me laughing about it...so I'm leaving it be.
You may say you listen, but it can't have ever been that long or that much.
....or it doesn't register if you say different here.
Just my opinion on this matter of course... ;-)
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
I'd bet
April 3, 2009 - 21:01 ET by UpNorththat Bal has never gotten through the monologue, not even once.
Balboa the ?
April 3, 2009 - 21:49 ET by pahuber"And, for the billionth time, I HAVE listened."
No you have not. I do not believe you could even be possibly telling the truth. I am calling you out... Sorry to those who think I just popped up here... I have been reading his God forsaken comments for one year and fourteen weeks. I just cannot believe you all give him the time of day (like that other troll, Jer). He is indeed the villiage idiot.
pahuber
April 4, 2009 - 09:51 ET by thebutlerdiditSome of us here don't. I will repeat my comment days ago, and one I usually use when Stewart, Colbert, etc. come up. Those shows are for stoned, bored teens. Shows like Maher, Letterman, etc., are for stoned, bored adults. Not exactly for the thinking folks.
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
thebutlerdidit
April 4, 2009 - 10:45 ET by pahuber"Some of us here don't."
That in and of itself makes you one of the wise ones on this site :)
To the disenters... do not misunderstand me. I have had a lifetime on other sites debating these irrational people and have come to the conclusion that if you are indeed trying to make progress with them then you are indeed wasting your time.
However, if it is for pure amusement then knock yourself out dancing with these clowns.
I have seen bal & Jer defend the indefensible by weaving & bobbing right off point as if to justify blatent misdeeds or injustices.
If/when I comment to them it will be to illustrate their usual lack of clarity.
That is why NB is the best politcal site...
April 4, 2009 - 10:52 ET by shawn228....even though it is a conservative site, they allow all different points of view.
If your preference is a conservative site that mimics a right wing version of DU or KOS, that is your choice.
He had my vote
Hey Shawn
April 4, 2009 - 11:07 ET by well99Ditto on that.Does that make me a Dittohead?
lol well
April 4, 2009 - 12:05 ET by shawn228I guess to the poster doing all the name calling perhaps so.
He had my vote
shawn228 ~ what is your point? Do you have one?
April 4, 2009 - 11:40 ET by pahuber"....even though it is a conservative site, they allow all different points of view."
Duh.
"If your preference is a conservative site that mimics a right wing version of DU or KOS, that is your choice."
Please make a point instead of just assuming preferences. Your post goes nowhere. Try responding to something that I have posted... that usually helps.
well pahuber
April 4, 2009 - 11:43 ET by shawn228I am simply stating that your style of argument is to call people names like moron on village idiot.
You have been here a year but posted on about 2 threads and your calling someone that has been here 3 years a troll.
That is like the debating skills of du and kos and obviously you have not graduated from charm school.
He had my vote
Shawn.... there you go again...
April 4, 2009 - 11:58 ET by pahuber"I am simply stating that your style of argument is to call people names like moron on village idiot."
I WILL call them as I see them AND will make NO appologies when I make them. If and when I find someone that I feel is deserved of a rational comment I will indeed do so. Otherwise you can deal with it.
" You have been here a year but posted on about 2 threads and your calling someone that has been here 3 years a troll."
Indeed. I really did not even need a year to do that Shawn. Apparently, you need longer? BTW... you really need to calm down.
"That is like the debating skills of du and kos and obviously you have not graduated from charm school."
Tsk tsk... testy are you not?
LOL... yeah, charm school. Much too wise for that... and have found that some people deserve the name fool or idiot when appropriate, but HEY be an apologist for bal or jer ~ thats your business. If you are infering from my posts that I lack charm... so be it.
to each their own
April 4, 2009 - 12:03 ET by shawn228welcome to Newsbusters.
He had my vote
It's not that you lack charm....
April 5, 2009 - 22:28 ET by Tailgunner...it's that you're an insufferable, arrogant individual who slings insults and fires epithets at left and right alike.
You really don't seem to have much else in the manner of reasoned, logical debate.
Notice I have not been profane or abusive. I have merely expressed my opinion which, I suspect, may be shared by one or two other posters on NB.
But I fully expect you to turn on me and fire sarcasm, abuse and insults just the same.
Standing by for heavy seas...
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
That was unexpected tailgunner
April 5, 2009 - 22:33 ET by shawn228but great post!
Thank you :-)
He had my vote
Hello Tailgunner! I got your six!
April 5, 2009 - 22:55 ET by pahuber:)
...never mind.
April 6, 2009 - 07:56 ET by TailgunnerNOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
LOL! N1 Tailgunner... I got your six! ;)
April 6, 2009 - 11:15 ET by pahuberSorry, but I am just going to have to laugh at your post w/ the humour it deserves.
Your opinion is just that. I would love to see you use references in their context to make your point, but that would be too much effort? ... but hey dance w/ the trolls, but just do not expect to be taken seriousely.
Please provide the context that backs up some of your prior post... that would be nice. I fully expect you cannot... OR will post a one sentence or word example w/o much of a context (e.g., too busy for this... you are not worth it... etc.).
I will explain this again... for the hard of learning... if I use the word TROLL I use it as it is... someone coming to a forum trying to elicit responses (usually, of the negative or absurd) w/ little or no discussion... hence, they are "trolling" for a reaction (like bal, jer, shawn228 and well99).
Now, maybe they all are not officially "trolling", but they have certainly exhibited characteristics of what trolls do... hit and run posts with nere a response when questioned... and now you post me with the nonsensical post and wonder if I am going to take you serious or post medieval on your hiny ; ) why would you wonder this unless you knew your post was nothing more than just an attack? You do prove my point.
Again, in context take my references that make me that which you claim and post them right here for all to see and share. I will be happy to stay put and explain each and every one to you... I am fully guessing you're going to toss me some lame example w/o context (straw man) or just keep on trolling on me.
Either way tailgunner...
I've got your six or talk to me Goose....
I was banned from FreeRepublic about six years ago....
April 6, 2009 - 20:14 ET by Tailgunner...for going on there and acting like a spoiled brat, insulting people, calling them names and using personal attacks in place of logic....just like you.
But then I was placed on different medications....and the rest is history. (I am a disabled vet.)
Perhaps you could ring up your shrink and tell him/her my story.
There are several alternative medications now so you no longer need to suffer from side effects like extreme mania and grandiosity.
Either that's your problem....or perhaps you're simply an immature and rebellious teenager with a spanking deficit who's managed to bypass the parental controls on your home PC and trying to play with the adults.
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
tailgunner
April 7, 2009 - 07:29 ET by pahuber"...for going on there and acting like a spoiled brat, insulting people,
calling them names and using personal attacks in place of logic....just
like you."
Did you actually read my last post? I asked for examples in their context.
"But then I was placed on different medications....and the rest is history. (I am a disabled vet.)"
While not on medications I too have a rating from the VA. Sorry you need the meds.
"Perhaps you could ring up your shrink and tell him/her my story.There are several alternative medications now so you no longer need to
suffer from side effects like extreme mania and grandiosity."
Do you realize your first sentence of your last post?
"...for going on there and acting like a spoiled brat, insulting people,
calling them names and using personal attacks in place of logic...."
Pot Kettle Black
"Either that's your problem....or perhaps you're simply an immature and
rebellious teenager with a spanking deficit who's managed to bypass the
parental controls on your home PC and trying to play with the adults."
I see. Well, you have again just stated opinion w/o proving your point. No doubt some will agree with you, but perhaps you should take your own advice. Sounds pretty hypochritical for you to jump into this fray "mouth first" than the usual logic I know you can normally use. BTW.... you have resorted, as proven by my last post, to that which you have accused me of.
pahuber
I stand by my post.
April 7, 2009 - 08:08 ET by TailgunnerI'm not particularly concerned by what you call it or think about it.
I just did you a great favor; one I wish someone had done for me twenty years ago.
Most people would steer clear of a person with obvious issues like you.
Only a very concerned individual, one who's been there himself, would risk the inevitable backlash of such a revelation.
If you want to focus on the messenger instead of the message, that's your decision.
Carry on.
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
tailgunner ~ at least be honest about this with yourself.
April 7, 2009 - 12:02 ET by pahuberYou jumped into something w/ mouth first w/o much thought. I asked you to please back up your comments (even though I knew you could not). You stated in your first post to me that you expected "heavy seas" & I merely stated that in and of itself indicated that you were up to sniping (alot like your friends bal, jer & shawn228).
I offered to put the posts of mine in perspective provided you kept them in context... and while some of them did use the term moron they did indeed fit the profile of the person I directed at (not to mention I requested some proof from their earlier post that illicited my response).
You seem to just want to judge me on a perceived style and tell me I need medication, fine. You are acting like well99 when you continue in this fashion (he cannot answer anything posed to him, as well... i mean other than "seek help"... and why? Because I do not agree that all death is a tradgedy. You like well99 are extremely emotional on some issues and seem to "lose it" when something touches a nerve.
Now on to your post:
"I'm not particularly concerned by what you call it or think about it."
This does not make sense, but then why post at all.
"I just did you a great favor; one I wish someone had done for me twenty years ago. Most people would steer clear of a person with obvious issues like you."
Personal attack, but I guess in your mind you are some sort of "healer".
"Only a very concerned individual, one who's been there himself, would risk the inevitable backlash of such a revelation."
If you consider my postings to you a backlash then I cannot imagine why you even show up. I mean get serious now tailgunner who are you even trying to convince?
"If you want to focus on the messenger instead of the message, that's your decision."
I am not focussing on YOU, but on your MESSAGE to me. That seems very evident here. Did I call you a name? How is it that you can post this statement?
It seems you will not be joining my fan club?
pahuber
Goodbye, pahuber.
April 7, 2009 - 13:11 ET by Tailgunner(click)
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
Take care tailgunner ~ You did prove my point and for that
April 7, 2009 - 13:30 ET by pahuberthanks.
See you around NB.
pahuber
shawn228 ~ what is your point? Do you have one?
April 4, 2009 - 11:40 ET by pahuber"....even though it is a conservative site, they allow all different points of view."
Duh.
"If your preference is a conservative site that mimics a right wing version of DU or KOS, that is your choice."
Please make a point instead of just assuming preferences. Your post goes nowhere. Try responding to something that I have posted... that usually helps.
Bal and Jer trolls?
April 4, 2009 - 10:11 ET by RukusSorry I disagree with you there. Are their politics different than many of the NB members here? Sure, that's their right. Do they vilify others and get nasty with others? No, not so much. Do they act trollish? Not at all, they have disagreements and different opinions than some of us. So? Discourse is a good thing and without differences of opinion on some topics NB would be a very boring place to hang out. I enjoy their banter with others. I don't always agree but at least things get hashed out or discussed. Bal and Jer are not trolls at all. Not everyone would agree with me, I have only been here for just under a year, but I do pay attention. Just my 2 cents.
Gary
"Things can only bother you if you let them bother you" -My Dad
Rukus
April 4, 2009 - 10:17 ET by Free StinkerI concur.
Bal and Jer are not Trolls.
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
Thanks, Free...
April 4, 2009 - 16:40 ET by JerScorecard:
Free Stinker 2
pahuber 0
Jer
Appreciate the support,
April 4, 2009 - 16:58 ET by JerAppreciate the support, Rukus...
Your check is in the mail. ;-) [Say hi to Mrs. R for me.]
Jer
You've missed the point like a few others here on this blog.
April 4, 2009 - 18:43 ET by pahuber"Are their politics different than many of the NB members here?"
That is not my point.
"Do they act trollish?"
Yes. You are incorrect. They are very much "trollish"...
Being a "troll" or rather trolling to incite by taking a point so far from reality still makes them a troll. Now, they obviousely take different viewpoints, but doing so does not make them a troll and neither have I ever in any post indicated this...
However, for example, if you read a post by bal earier in this thread in which I asked for clarification to his absurd statement concerning conservatives & drugs there is no way a rational human could deduce what he is saying to be genuine unless he/she is so far removed from reality that actual medical care is needed. I will not waste my time with the other humongous foibles and whoppers that I have encountered reading from jer & bal. I believe that most rational NBers here know that w/o giving it a second though.
I am really embarrassed that I would have to even explain this very simple concept to the two newsbusters individuals that I have had to...
"I have only been here for just under a year, but I do pay attention."
No comment.
Nah -- not trolls. They've
April 4, 2009 - 10:20 ET by Jack BauerNah -- not trolls. They've been around since Reps ruled the roost in the White House and Congress.
However, they seem to have become hyper-sensitive to ANY criticism of their guys. Which is weird, as they won.
But wherever you look, it appears the left are very sore winners. Not from being triumphalist, but from an inability to take it.
Thanks, Jack... And maybe
April 4, 2009 - 16:49 ET by JerThanks, Jack...
And maybe I have been a bit over-sensitive [although I have criticized both Obama and Obama idolatry].
Let me ask you a question. Do you think the anti-Obama rhetoric has been a tad over the top? I mean the guy has been in office a little over two months, and there are already calls for impeachment, secession, and revolution. What do you think?
Jer
NO.
April 4, 2009 - 21:50 ET by TailgunnerIn two months Obama has broken his promises on lobbyists in his administration a dozen times, appointed, or attempted to appoint, known tax evaders and politicians under investigation for potential corruption.
Obama has intentionally pulled a bait and switch scam on the American people under cover of a hyped-up crisis. His thousand page bill containing 9,000 earmarks was a socialist coup d'etat; a pure political payoff. He signed this legislative monstrosity with the words, 'This bill has not one single earmark in it'.
A political party that once piously condemned Bush's 'turning a surplus into a deficit' is now pleading with a Communist murdering totalitarian dictatorship to lend us money that three generations of Americans won't be able to repay.
Obama has unconstitutionally nationalized the banking industry and the auto industry. He is now playing with hiring, firing and manufacturing like a kid with a new set of Lego's.
His administration is scheming to do the same with the health care industry, despite ample evidence that nationalized healthcare is literally a death sentence for thousands upon thousands in these countries.
He has already said, on tape, that he would 'bankrupt' coal with 'cap and trade'. He also said that under his plan, 'energy prices would necessarily skyrocket'.
Well, guess what Congress is now debating? A cap and trade plan that taxes every single family, even those who Obama claims he's 'spreading the wealth around' to, adding perhaps a third to already high utility rates.
Prices for every single manufactured item in this country (note: in this country) will skyrocket.
How long will it be until those businesses who haven't already fled this country will evacuate for their own survival? We are already one of the most unfriendly nations for business.
Since China and other countries obviously will not participate in this ridiculous plan, all Obama will accomplish is to make America utterly uncompetitive in the world market and exacerbating a recession into a depression while the rest of the world experiences increasingly higher standards of living.
I haven't begun to talk about Obama's plans for his own private army, his 'civilian national security force', the four-fold increase in the AmeriCorps program, the billions given to armies of 'community groups' which are nothing more than socialist thugs engaging in terrorism of bankers and their families and in rampant voting fraud.
So no, the anti-Obama rhetoric isn't 'over the top'. There's not enough of it.
When a tyrant tells you exactly what he's going to do, as in the history of the twentieth century, only the fool remains silent when he proceeds to dismantle the republic.
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
Excellent points. Jer seems to be a waste of such good logic.
April 4, 2009 - 21:56 ET by pahuberBest of luck.
"His administration is
April 4, 2009 - 22:15 ET by mandrake"His administration is scheming to do the same with the health care
industry, despite ample evidence that nationalized healthcare is
literally a death sentence for thousands upon thousands in these countries."
I find that statement a bit over the top. Yes, thousands upon thousands of Canadians die every year but it's not because of the 'waitlist bogeyman' or lousy doctors. Most die of natural causes or accidents. My father died of lung cancer..but then again he smoked for 40 years. I nearly died in a car accident 1 1/2 years ago. Nothing to do with nationalized healthcare.
I live in the biggest city in Canada and given the theory of 'six degrees of separation' you'd think I would know at least one person who dropped dead waiting for a doctor..but I don't
And not that it's any of your business. About two weeks ago I developed an annoying but none life threating condition. Took me 24 hrs to see my family doctor and it took him 2 weeks to get me an appointment with a surgeon. I go under the knife Monday. Not bad of a wait list eh?
Power-saw to the people - Dexter
If it's not 'any of my business'...
April 4, 2009 - 22:43 ET by Tailgunner...then feel free to not share it with me.
Allow me to dissect (no pun intended...ok, it was) your points.
Let me give you a couple sources to read as homework. They are easily found on the internet; that is for someone who really wants to look for them.
"In 1999, Dr. Richard F. Davies, a cardiologist at the University of Ottawa Heart Institute and professor of medicine at the University of Ottawa, described in remarks for the Canadian Institute for Health Information how delays affected Ontario heart patients scheduled for coronary artery bypass graft surgery.
In a single year, for this one operation, the doctor said, "71 Ontario patients died before surgery, 121 were removed from the list permanently because they had become medically unfit for surgery," and 44 left the province to have the surgery, many having gone to the United States for the operation. (According to the Canadian Institute for Health Information, 33 Canadian hospitals performed approximately 22,500 bypass surgeries in 1998-99.)
In other words, 192 people either died or became too sick to have surgery before they could work their way to the front of the line."
http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results/15524/Canadas_Medical_Nightmare.html
"According to the Cato Institute, U.S. hospitals and clinics treat thousands of foreign patients. The Mayo Clinic treats more than 7,000 foreigners a year, the Cleveland Clinic 5,000, Johns Hopkins Hospital 6,000; and 1 out of 3 Canadian physicians send a patient to the U.S. for treatment each year. Why? Because the delay in health care services is not only inconvenient, it's deadly.”
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
Excellent riposte. When
April 4, 2009 - 22:47 ET by NL207Excellent riposte.
When they don't respond, you know you've crushed their argument
...or they went out for
April 4, 2009 - 22:50 ET by balboa...or they went out for milk. Either way.
bal the troll who I will call out now and forever more . . .
April 5, 2009 - 00:18 ET by pahuberDo you even understsand the difference between Europe's health care system and the United States (You flaming R'Tard?). Yes, Jesus agrees you are an R'tard ;)
Thank you!
April 5, 2009 - 22:17 ET by TailgunnerThis can not be allowed to happen here.
No political party will commit to funding nationalized healthcare at anything close to the levels necessary to make it work for everyone.
There will be pressure to ration care by any means necessary.
We'll see political hacks in the healthcare administration advocate denying care to those they brand as living 'unhealthy lifestyles'.
We'll see outrageous bureaucratic rulings like in England where in order to receive treatment for macular degeneration, you have to wait until you go completely blind in one eye.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2445780/Three-patients-who-are-going-blind-overturn-NHS-drug-ban.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1554436/Cruel-watchdog-condems-20000-to-blindness.html
I can't overemphasize the utter inhumanity of statist bureaucrats who will cheerfully sentence someone to death, without appeal, to save a few bucks, pounds, or francs.
At least in America you can still pay for the few treatments that are denied payment. In England and Canada you are not allowed to pay for your own treatment.
One woman undergoing chemotherapy for bowel cancer was told by her doctor that a second drug would help her chances of survival.
The NHS refused to pay for the drug. So she scraped up the money to pay for the drug herself.
When the NHS learned of this, they discontinued her chemotherapy. She ultimately died from the cancer she had up till then been successfully fighting.
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukcancerdie.html
This kind of outrage happens all the time under socialized healthcare.
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
Actually, my favourite TV
April 5, 2009 - 06:14 ET by mandrakeActually, my favourite TV show Dexter was on. Nothing stands in the way of Dexter.
Power-saw to the people - Dexter
Our system is broken and
April 4, 2009 - 22:53 ET by mandrakeOur system is broken and everyone knows it but little old me? You mean my family, friends and employer have allowed me to live a illusion all these years..sniff :(
BTW. all your sources are Right Wing Think Tanks. Do you ever read anything else?
Those 'right wing think tanks' quote YOUR DOCTORS.
April 4, 2009 - 23:26 ET by TailgunnerOne out of three Canadian and British doctors sends patients to the US for treatment.
Canada spends $1 billion dollars a year on treatment of Canadian citizens in US healthcare facilities.
According to a noted Ottawa cardiologist, each year in Ontario alone, nearly 200 patients die waiting for treatment for heart disease.
If I made it any simpler, pal, I'd be writing this in crayon.
Something tells me that's probably the only way you'd understand.
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
Yes, your system is broken,
April 5, 2009 - 00:00 ET by RESTLESS 1This is a canadian doctor who sees it. And Europe's sucks too.
Meanwhile, if you have cancer, better hope you are an American.
C-ya.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
No magic bullet
April 8, 2009 - 00:44 ET by UnsaneMandrake, if you haven't noticed yet, since I was a boy, I have had a deep, overwhelming OBSESSIVE DEVOTION to the world beyond the borders of the United States. As Canada lies outside the borders of the United States, it lies in the crosshairs of that OBSESSIVE DEVOTION.
So, in order to keep track of things in Canada, I occasionally watch CBC via the web. I find The National to be great for that purpose...when I'm not reading, writing and grading, that is.
In 2004 and 2006, during the federal elections, the top issue was listed as "health care". This I find odd, as Canadians allegedly have solved this issue.
The July/August 2007 edition of Foreign Policy considers health care to be a problem...everywhere. No one has found the magic bullet - not even your country.
So I wouldn't walk around feeling so smug. Besides, there is no pride in being part of a system that institutionalizes and legalizes theft.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Your obsession with Canada
April 8, 2009 - 06:48 ET by Roger the ShrubberYour obsession with Canada surely cannot be healthy, Un!
This explains your fascination with Rush.
I can only hope your sickness has not spread, and you do not have an April Wine, Red Ryder or Saga poster in your basement :)
(Okay, I take that back. I happen to like April Wine and Triumph...)
Aboot Canada...
April 8, 2009 - 10:37 ET by UnsaneYou Americans think you are so superior! Why? Because you have arable farmland, nuclear weapons, and sun that shines more than three days out of the year! (h/t to a e-mailer to Jim Rome)
Oops! Sorry aboot that Roger. I guess I should go back to work on my Rush shrine and cataloguing my Exciter collection, eh?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
As if you have the only
April 8, 2009 - 12:28 ET by Roger the ShrubberAs if you have the only Exciter collection around here... (good reference!)
hahahah
Dan Beeler is my homie!
mandrake:
April 7, 2009 - 08:47 ET by UnsaneJust hope the surgeons don't go on strike that day.
I know you have to be an apologist for a system which legalizes your ability/desire to steal from healthy citizens, from, say, Vancouver, to pay for YOUR doctor, but here are some very nasty things to consider:
Your country is C$8100 poorer, on average, than the United States. Sure, here comes the pious whine about how Canadians care more about the health care of the elderly and the poor, right? Well, if Canadians actually DID care about the health care of the elderly and the poor, instead of turning towards government, they would turn to themselves, and start charities. But that is, like, a LOT of WORK, eh? That, and I would keep in mind that in the United States, all patients must be stabilized at the hospital regardless of the ability to pay.
And: name a medical advance that Canada has been responsible for since 1968. Because I sure as all hell cannot think of any. That may have something to do with the fact that individual hospitals in Houston have larger research budgets than all of Canada. So, guess what? Canadian doctors are constantly bumming off of American medical research. (Canadians are so in hock to the United States it isn't even funny. I like Canada and all, but that is the truth.)
Finally, I should note that a MP - a rather well-off MP at that, Belinda Stronach, developed a very life threatening condition: brest cancer. What did her doctors tell her to do? Head south. As in south of the 49th to get medical treatment. For a freaking MP! What does THAT tell you?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
"calls for impeachment,
April 5, 2009 - 06:39 ET by Jack BauerJer -- hey, to be fair that sounds like what many conservatives want to do to the Republican party, starting with Specter, and the House members who vote with Democrats on Porkulus and beyond.
As to Obama, loud dissent and opposition is the only way to go. Which is what all the conservative blogs I read are doing. Mark Levin is one of the loudest dissenting voices against Obama -- and he is very unforgiving with anyone who suggests the actionhs you mention.
Remember: one man's tad over the top is another man's right to free speech.
However many activist conservatives want to teach the Democrats a lesson that dissent works both ways. And why not. That's as American as it gets!
Besides Democrats rule everything at the moment. What do they expect? A Tea Party with crumpets?
Jack... Re "free
April 5, 2009 - 21:42 ET by JerJack...
Re "free speech"...certainly not questioning the right, just the tone and propriety. A little sweetener in the tea would make it a lot more palatable.
Jer
Balboa, Stop it already
April 3, 2009 - 22:32 ET by LiberalliesBalboa,
Stop it already with your lies!
You have never listened to Rush or Hannity long enough to be able to formulate an educated opinion about them.
Listen to each of the shows for 6 months, all of the show and then you will know who these two men are.
Neither Hannity nor Rush have ever used words like f...ck, or any other such word to attack anyone they disagree with.
I find it amazing that Liberals love raunchy, crass, crude and childish "humor" like the one spewed out by Stewart, but are quickly taken back by Limbaugh and Hannity who don't use raunchy, low class, crude, crass comedy to taken on Pelois, Obama, etc.
Anyways, it is obvious by Balboa's comments that he has never heard Limbaugh or Hannity and if he has, it has been through Media Matters, Thinkprogress.org or another Liberal website that filters and edit their words.
I seriously doubt that you've listened...
April 5, 2009 - 17:13 ET by Tailgunner...for any length of time to Rush. If you did you'd have a much better understanding of his style.
He's more of a 'comedian' than Stewart is.
Rush's 'bombastic blowhard' shtick is entirely tongue in cheek...it's an act.
Only if you're a Rush 'insider' (a 'dittohead', if you will) would you understand this.
And his satirical humor, including those skewering music pieces from Paul Shanklin that he plays on his show, is based on truth (satire doesn't work if it isn't).
Compare Rush's subtle irony with the screaming, dishonest, profane and vicious hatred that Stewart and his ilk spew to their universally slavish audiences.
Stewart's one of those liberals who misuse a respected profession to heap scorn and vitriol on conservatives.
Some other recent examples of this type include domestic terrorist college professors, black racist preachers, corrupt journalists, Democratic Congressmen and President.
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
Tailgunner ~ nicely done. I would like to see jer answer you.
April 5, 2009 - 19:54 ET by pahuber"And his satirical humor, including those skewering music pieces from Paul Shanklin that he plays on his show, is based on truth (satire doesn't work if it isn't)"
Herein lies the truth that jer (aka clueless wonder) does not understand.
jer seems to be a drive by troll.
Jer is not a 'drive by troll'.
April 5, 2009 - 22:13 ET by TailgunnerDon't put him in the same class.
Jer's a regular fixture on NB (at least as long as I've been here) who debates more or less coherently, and that 'rara avis'; a liberal that doesn't reflexively resort to personal attacks when his arguments are (usually) refuted (usually by me).
We get pretty heated but most always play by the rules.
I'd think of him more as 'Alan Colmes' to our 'Sean Hannity'.
Follow him for a while before you judge.
(Thank you for the compliments, though.)
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
Nicely put, Tailgunner... well because of your comments I will.
April 6, 2009 - 00:01 ET by pahuberHowever, I have read his defense of the indefensible. But i digress...
I thought these comments from Tailgunner were nicely put as well
April 6, 2009 - 00:09 ET by shawn228"...it's that you're an insufferable, arrogant individual who slings insults and fires epithets at left and right alike".
Better be careful, presently you have your nose so far up TG butt, that you can taste what he had for dinner tonight.
He had my vote
Hi shawn228 ~ here is your comments from yesterday :)
April 6, 2009 - 00:10 ET by pahuberIn refering to me you stated with such eloquence...
"He likes to talk about flatulence, so maybe the heat he likes is when he lights a match and farts on it."
So I guess that sounded cool yesterday?
well considering that ......
April 6, 2009 - 00:30 ET by shawn228I said that in reference to
"This is about someone who claims to be funny and is anything, but
funny. I suppose you laugh when you hear someone flatulate or get
caught eating your own buggers, but most of us do not...
Saying "get the F out" is not funny...get it? I doubt you do...
Have fun trying to divert me with your signature flatulent postings."
I would say that it still sounds pretty cool today.
Good night.
He had my vote
shawn228 again context context context is missing!
April 6, 2009 - 11:46 ET by pahuberYeah, and each word an arrow handled with precise accuracy to its target.
However, shawn228... your post... hmmm
well
April 4, 2009 - 00:12 ET by shawn228
He likes to talk about flatulence, so maybe the heat he likes is when he lights a match and farts on it.
I am keeping this one to show my friends ; )
Tailgunner ~ nicely done. I would like to see jer answer you.
April 5, 2009 - 19:55 ET by pahuber"And his satirical humor, including those skewering music pieces from Paul Shanklin that he plays on his show, is based on truth (satire doesn't work if it isn't)"
Herein lies the truth that jer (aka clueless wonder) does not understand.
jer seems to be a drive by troll.
Stewart's more pathetic than anything else
April 3, 2009 - 13:20 ET by CobraManStward is not funny, insulting people and demeaning their beliefes is never funny.
Do you remember, or have you ever heard, material from such GREAT comedians as Red Skelton? Now THAT man was funny! Compare the comedic styles of Red Skelton with John Stewart and tell me again just how "funny" Stewart really is. Care to make that comparison?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Yes, I know, and Perry Como
April 3, 2009 - 14:05 ET by balboaYes, I know, and Perry Como was great music, we get it: society's awful, blah blah blah, rock 'n roll ruined America...
I love the Marx Bros. I loved Carson. But there are other kinds of humor I enjoy just as much.
Bal, Does Stewart pay
April 3, 2009 - 14:08 ET by Chris NormanBal,
Does Stewart pay you for defending him to the last key stroke? If not, he should.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
balboa
April 3, 2009 - 12:43 ET by MrShyJohan Stew Wort is the biggest intellectual-lightweight azzwhole, and sadly weilds a sh*tload of influence with the younger set.
Like Tim point out oh-so correctly, this half-funny weasel smugly and righteously went on Crossfire a few years back and crucified them for playing partisan warfare. Meanwhile, this jerk completely and overtly shills for all things liberal/Dem ideologically on his "comedy" show and chews out all things conservative in thought.
Now, Balboa, go be a good boy and check out my new video:
http://newsbusters.o...
- Gene K.
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
Balboa, When do you think
April 3, 2009 - 12:34 ET by LiberalliesBalboa,
When do you think Stewart is going to start making fun of President Obama snorting cocaine, eh?
Is it not hypocritical of idiots like Stewart (too ashamed to use his real name) to make fun of Rush Limbaugh's addiction to a drug that was prescribed to him and not saying a word about Obama's use of "recreational" drugs?
don't you find this a bit hypocritical and bothersome?
Additionally, the Liberals AND the media went crazy, nuts, wild, claimed that Bush was unfit to be President because of the alleged accusation that he used cocaine in the 60s and 70s. Now we have a President who admitted to using it and the Liberals and the same critics of Bush are silent?
I have a Liberal friend who trashed, spat on Bush any time she could because of his alleged drug use. Now, she loves, admires Obama. Every time I ask her about Obama's drug usage, she gives me a dirty look and changes the conversation.
Stewart's (too ashamed to use his real name) would be funny if the "man" had balls to make fun of President Obama's drug usage as well. Libtards like him had no problem making fun of Bush's alleged drug use, but complete silence on Obama's real drug usage.
Balboa, you might have voted for McCain, but you still have so much to learn.
Hi
April 3, 2009 - 12:25 ET by cvgbuckeyeHi balboa: I knew that when one of these buddies of yours raised up their rock, to crawl out that you would come out with them. I knew you'd show up. You are as predictable as the smell on fresh flatulence.
You have never met a rude lefty, with his knife stuck in a conservatives back, that you couldn't defend have you.
Take a whiff, baby! :-p
April 3, 2009 - 12:31 ET by balboaTake a whiff, baby! :-p
But with a Libtard
April 3, 2009 - 13:23 ET by MillerTimeWarpyou can never tell which end it came out of.
Yes. It was funny. Just like huge butt warts on balboa is funny.
April 4, 2009 - 11:36 ET by JWFOf course, not everyone here likes balboa or butt warts.
You know what else is funny? When taxpayers leave a state because of high taxes. Wow! That is a knee slapper. Oh ho ho ho ho! Ah ha ha ha ha! Don't you get it? That only leaves balboa and his butt warts left to PAY the taxes. HEE HEE HEE HEE!
Balboa? Where did you go? Come on! Let's yuck it up! Taxpayers fleeing a state is funny! We are not a socialist country yet. They are still free to leave.
Balboa? Hello?
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Typical Loony Leftist
April 3, 2009 - 12:19 ET by Franklins_LockeWhen you can beat them or have better idea, the Left just calls people names and attack them personally. I sense some jealousy. Maybe, he has "ratings envy"
http://franklinslocke.blogspot.com/
Oh dear. Another story
April 3, 2009 - 12:26 ET by Tougher MuttOh dear. Another story about comedian Jon Stewart. The more these feuds are reported, the longer they go on. This comedy show whose target audience is certainly left of center is getting exactly what they want out of these reports - more interest, leading to more viewers.
http://tvbythenumber...
Good point.
April 3, 2009 - 12:35 ET by Roger the ShrubberJust think. Maybe next week they just might beat out stuff from the Golf Channel.
Maybe.
But on the Golf Channel, you
April 3, 2009 - 12:37 ET by Jack BauerBut on the Golf Channel, you never get a Tool In One -- like you do on The Lamey Show!
What do you wanna bet that
April 3, 2009 - 12:52 ET by Tougher MuttWhat do you wanna bet that this thing gets bigger and the Daily Show's rating jump again?
It very well might. The
April 3, 2009 - 13:07 ET by Roger the ShrubberIt very well might. The wandering interest factor may give a boost in the ratings, albeit a short-lived boost. The majority of Stewart's viewers have no clue who Limbaugh is, other than all the negative crap they have been spoon-fed over the years by Stewart and the Hufftard folks.
The episode with Cramer should have taught that, sure, one big night is wonderful, but a week later, your ratings are down in the dumps, below Real World XXVII.
Besides, Stewart is a month late to the dance. Attacking Limbaugh was already shown to be a failure. I thought the Dem talking points was to attack Palin or Beck?
I wouldn't necessarily say
April 3, 2009 - 13:25 ET by Tougher MuttI wouldn't necessarily say he was jumping on the attack-bandwagon as much as he was reponding to specific statements from Rush that day - that he's leaving NY. Remember he's a current events comedy show, and Rush was going out of his way to make news.
everyone who smokes cigars
April 3, 2009 - 12:35 ET by Jack BauerStewart really is the Poisoned Dwarf!
Honorable Newsbusters mention: BILL CLINTON. Though he might have a point there.
You really don't understand
April 3, 2009 - 12:38 ET by balboaYou really don't understand how humor works, do you.
You really don't
April 3, 2009 - 12:43 ET by Jack BauerMore than Jon Stewart does!
Put down all that water you
April 3, 2009 - 12:46 ET by Roger the ShrubberPut down all that water you are carrying, Bal. Take a rest.
Your two main news sources will still be there (and still sucking) on Comedy Central when you pick up their water again.
I have a problem with stupid
April 3, 2009 - 12:48 ET by balboaI have a problem with stupid arguments.
My argument with STEWART is
April 3, 2009 - 12:54 ET by Jack BauerMy argument with STEWART is not even political. It's that he's NOT funny.
And his audience figures woulld indicate that 99.8% of Americans don't watch him either.
Oh.
April 3, 2009 - 13:01 ET by Roger the ShrubberI would probably not be alone when I suggest that telling somebody "they do not know how humor works" is a rather stupid argument in itself. Do you have some sort of empirical data on how humor works? Flowcharts? Graphs? Maps of the frontal lobes?
Roger,I have come to the
April 3, 2009 - 13:25 ET by Chris NormanRoger,
I have come to the conclusion that Balboa either:
1) Is related to Stewart.
2) Is friends with Stewart
3) Works for Stewart.
4) Wants to work for or be friends with Stewart.
5) Is Stewart.
This can only explain his undying loyalty to Stewart , which may point to a further out conclusion that he's:
6) Stewart's dog
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
I have a weakness for
April 3, 2009 - 14:06 ET by balboaI have a weakness for responding to really, really bad arguments, and this thread is filled with 'em. BDS can just as easily be cousin to JSDS.
"I have a weakness for
April 3, 2009 - 14:55 ET by Chris Norman"I have a weakness for responding to really, really bad arguments"
Yet you have spent a lot of time and energy (and bad arguments) here defending Stewart's non-humorous diatribe against Rush Limbaugh? Balboa, whatever Stewart engaged in here simply cannot be labeled as humor - even in the broadest terms.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
CN, you only think it's not
April 3, 2009 - 19:06 ET by balboaCN, you only think it's not funny because it's about a conservative.
balboa
April 3, 2009 - 19:13 ET by well99This is funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dii3mzMQ3SQ
Yes it is.
April 3, 2009 - 19:20 ET by balboaYes it is.
Balboa, Your quiver of
April 4, 2009 - 11:06 ET by Chris NormanBalboa,
Your quiver of snarky cleverness must be empty after the epic battle here, where once again you attempt to defend the indefensible. That was a very pathetic comeback. What's next, "Your mom wears army boots"? I don't laugh at non-humorous diatribes - whoever they're used against. If you do, you must have a low threshold for laughter.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
balboa
April 3, 2009 - 16:01 ET by well99JSDS= Jon Steward Democratic Shill.Bal you finally saw the light.Since Jon is no doubt double dipping with the DNC I am sure you can get a nice chunk of change for defending him.Make sure you get a piece of the rerun royalties.
Bal...
April 3, 2009 - 21:56 ET by pahuber"I have a problem with stupid arguments."
This would explain your self loathing. However, the psychosis...
And you would be who,
April 3, 2009 - 23:04 ET by balboaAnd you would be who, exactly?
Bal: "I have a problem with stupid arguments."
April 4, 2009 - 11:45 ET by pahuberThen simply quit posting them.
Humor works when it's actually funny
April 3, 2009 - 13:06 ET by CobraMan"You really don't understand how humor works, do you."
Humor works when it's actually funny. Since not everyone agrees on what constitutes humor, just like not everyone agrees on what constitutes art, who are you to question their ability to define what is funny?
You spoke about conservative hypocrisy in an earlier post, yet you display your own brand of hypocrisy right here in this post. If someone doesn't agree with you about what constitutes humor, you accuse them of a lack of understanding, yet you fail to understand that not everyone will agree about what constitutes humor. That's CLASSIC hypocrisy, admonishing a perceived fault in others while ignoring that same fault within yourself, is it not?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
CobraMan, I was more
April 3, 2009 - 19:04 ET by balboaCobraMan,
I was more talking about how JB didn't understand the joke, not whether or not he thought it was funny.
Having a taste for 'murder'?
April 4, 2009 - 08:38 ET by Tailgunner...'Buying drugs' in Times Square'?
'Douchebag'?
LMFAO. Not.
I can't believe anyone's defending this as humor.
Humor for liberals is, when they get caught saying something so vicious and untrue it triggers genuine outrage, all they have to do is say it was 'humor'.
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
Stewart has succumbed to
April 3, 2009 - 12:40 ET by RogerCfromSDStewart has succumbed to the poison of his BDS, and is now in the extreme end of moooooonbat territory. He's not funny anymore as he is acidic.
Watch out, Olbermann. In another two years, Jon will have surpassed your batcrap craziness, and you'll be out of a job.
A nation cannot be free without a free, unbiased media. We are not free.
For the record....
April 4, 2009 - 08:25 ET by Tailgunner...wasn't it Monica Lewinsky who deserves the credit for that one?
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
"YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN...!!"
April 3, 2009 - 12:40 ET by SgthulkaAny guy who cries on camera (as Stewart did post-9/11) is a girl.
Mr. tough-guy comedian, sitting in front of his NYU audience-packed set.
May he be saddled with the NYC city taxes he so deeply craves.
That's the problem,
April 3, 2009 - 12:45 ET by Jack BauerThat's the problem, Democrats doen't pay taxes!
That's a pathetic criticism,
April 3, 2009 - 12:47 ET by balboaThat's a pathetic criticism, Big Toe.
oi
April 3, 2009 - 12:44 ET by katainkenthis hatred has poisoned his comedic sense.
Irony is lost on Liberals
April 3, 2009 - 13:07 ET by Paul AtreidesThey cannot stand terrorists being labeled as evil but will call conservatives evil at the drop of a hat.
They claim that Rush is hateful while they have done nothing but spew hatred at him since the day he first became a nationwide success.
I'm sure that Hollywood, where drug addiction is a way of life, finds no irony in bringing up Rush's addiction to painkillers at every opportunity.
Irony is lost on Liberals
April 3, 2009 - 13:07 ET by Paul AtreidesThey cannot stand terrorists being labeled as evil but will call conservatives evil at the drop of a hat.
They claim that Rush is hateful while they have done nothing but spew hatred at him since the day he first became a nationwide success.
I'm sure that Hollywood, where drug addiction is a way of life, finds no irony in bringing up Rush's addiction to painkillers at every opportunity.
Irony is lost on Liberals
April 3, 2009 - 13:08 ET by Paul AtreidesThey cannot stand terrorists being labeled as evil but will call conservatives evil at the drop of a hat.
They claim that Rush is hateful while they have done nothing but spew hatred at him since the day he first became a nationwide success.
I'm sure that Hollywood, where drug addiction is a way of life, finds no irony in bringing up Rush's addiction to painkillers at every opportunity.
hey
April 3, 2009 - 13:15 ET by MillerTimeWarpgo easy on the mouse clicks dude
I haven't watched Stewart
April 3, 2009 - 13:57 ET by MANstreammediaI haven't watched Stewart in years. I eventually became older than 16 and didn't find him funny anymore. I began to wonder if there was a Jon Stewart humor equation (someone will have to create a new one because this one is surely outdated by now).
Make a statement (not necessarily funny) + use a funny voice or make a face after the statement = audience laughter
Make a statement (not
April 3, 2009 - 18:08 ET by Jack BauerThat's his whole shtick.
Now if he was a naturally "funny" guy like, say, Mel Brooks or Jackie Mason, he could do that and you'd laugh.
But he hasn't got a funny bone in his body. All five foot five.
what we really need is a
April 3, 2009 - 14:32 ET by kangaroowhat we really need is a full on conservative tv station, it's working for the am radio and we are dusting them libs, if we had a station we could probably come close to shutting the left down, come on ruppert thats where the money is, what is taking you so long, huh
bal
April 3, 2009 - 14:54 ET by MrShyIt's insane. I just watched the JS bit, and he insinuated that Rush has some desire to murder people.
He also ends it flexing his muscles and telling Rush to get the f*** out.
You're not going to draw the "comedy line" on this one?
I'm starting to think you ARE of a feeble mind. Sorry.
The whole thing was a total mob-mentality circle-jerk in that studio. It's disgusting.
If you think I'm making a big to-do of this, be in my shoes for a few days at some stupid party here, where a guy gets up and says he'd be happy if Bush was assassinated and everyone nodded in agreement.
Jon has been a joy to watch, I'll have you know, for years -- I actually DO (did) find him funny -- but he and/or his writers are jumping the shark big time now... and have been for some time.
He's now a dumb punk.
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
People don't like Rush.
April 3, 2009 - 18:33 ET by balboaPeople don't like Rush. That's just the way it is. I'm one of them. I think he's very smart, but very annoying.
Jon Stewart is just jealous
April 3, 2009 - 17:44 ET by Captain KirockRush is funnier than him.
Come to think of it, most people are funnier than Stewart.
The truly funny thing about Jon Stewart is...
April 3, 2009 - 18:43 ET by R D Helm...there are people alive and breathing who actually think he is funny.
He isn't.
All he really is is just another sad, freedom-hating, marginally talented, ignoranus of an America-hater who gets paid a lot of money to be a sad, freedom-hating, marginally talented, ignoranus of an America-hater.
-Dave
This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.
Stewie!
April 3, 2009 - 18:56 ET by blazermaniacHey John, why don't you just go "F" yourself!
Amen
April 3, 2009 - 18:59 ET by sam12663Amen Dave!!!
President Obama is nothing more than a empty suit; a Hollywood
style special effects smoke and mirrors show that has shown itself to
be a total fraud.
WAKE UP AMERICA! SAVE OUR CONSTITUTION!
Stewart should
April 3, 2009 - 19:04 ET by sam12663get together with Maher and form the O.B.A.M.A. brigade.
O-OVERRATED
B-BLOWHARDS
A-A$$HOLE
M-MUNCHERS
A-ASSOCIATION
President Obama is nothing more than a empty suit; a Hollywood
style special effects smoke and mirrors show that has shown itself to
be a total fraud.
WAKE UP AMERICA! SAVE OUR CONSTITUTION!
Help me out dittoheads...
April 3, 2009 - 19:22 ET by JerI've listened to Rush a good bit in the past [but not so much in recent years], but I admit to some difficulty in understanding his "humor".
For example, when Rush "The Last Republican Standing" Limbaugh publicly accused Bill Clinton of "deliberately incinerating innocent women and children", was he being serious?...funny?...seriously funny?...or,
when Rush "The National Treasure" Limbaugh slyly refers to Fort Marcy Park (the site of Vince Foster's body dump after being allegedly murdered by the Clintons), is he being serious?...wry?...sarcastic?...insightful?...or merely making a geographical and historical reference? or,
when Rush "The Honorary Member of the Republican Congress" Limbaugh shook and flailed his arms while commenting on Michael J. Fox's appearance before a Congressional committee, was he engaging in mockery?...masterfully exposing Fox's hypocrisy?...flattering Fox by imitation?
Since Rush "White House Sleepover" Limbaugh is the go-to guy for penetrating political analysis as well as the oracle for contemporary conservatism, I really would like to get a handle on his style of comedy.
Thanks in advance,
Jer
Gosh Jer... He isn't
April 3, 2009 - 19:29 ET by bigtimerGosh Jer...
He isn't being comical in the least in some areas/situations/segments...as you full well know.
If you really listen long enough it will penetrate that thick skull and you'll really comprehend it all by yourself, without asking others to tell you.
Really you will.
...AS if you don't know in the first place. ;-)
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Nothing personal, bt...
April 3, 2009 - 19:51 ET by JerNothing personal, bt...
But that wasn't a whole lot of help. Thanks for trying, though. ;-)
Jer
Nothing personal Jer...but I
April 3, 2009 - 20:00 ET by bigtimerNothing personal Jer...but I kinda' figured I was wasting my time. ;-)
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
bt...
April 3, 2009 - 20:16 ET by JerThis would probably be a good time for you to attend to some of those other things you have to do. :-)
Jer
Now now Jer...just don't
April 3, 2009 - 20:19 ET by bigtimerNow now Jer...just don't you worry your pretty little head about it...but I'm sure I heard your wife calling you to come take out the garbage.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Thanks for reminding me, bt...
April 3, 2009 - 20:28 ET by JerThanks for reminding me. That's my primary responsibility when it comes to household duties, and I forgot it last week.
Jer
LOL!
April 3, 2009 - 21:51 ET by RukusJer, BT. You two are killing me! I think that is the first time I've ever sprayed Gatorade out my nose! LOL! Oh, my poor keyboard is gonna be so sticky now! Too funny! ;-)
Gary
"Things can only bother you if you let them bother you" -My Dad
And what about the bone in
April 3, 2009 - 19:42 ET by balboaAnd what about the bone in the nose comment? Was that funny?
People can call me a hypocrite about Stewart all they want, but can't admit they're hypocritical about Rush and his "pleasantries."
I never called you a
April 3, 2009 - 19:59 ET by Roger the ShrubberI never called you a hypocrite about Stewart, I merely point out your constant water-carrying for Stewart and Colbert.
I mean, come on, if there is a thread on Stewart, here come Bal rushing to Poor Jon's defense! Some serious man-lovin' going on there. It's kinda cute!
Conversely, if there is a Limbaugh thread on this site, *poof!* Jer magically appears to dish out the same old "Limbaugh bad, blah blah blah" routine.
Come on guys, try not being so damn predictable.
if there is a Limbaugh
April 3, 2009 - 20:05 ET by Jerif there is a Limbaugh thread on this site?
There's a couple every other day. I feel the need to respond to at least a few of them.
Jer
Let's face it, Jer. a.
April 3, 2009 - 20:31 ET by Roger the ShrubberLet's face it, Jer.
a. You always have the option to NOT post on a Limbaugh thread. An option you rarely choose. You "feel the need" to respond much like any other obsessed hater does, I suppose. Merely repeating the same bitches and gripes about Limbaugh on every thread does not make your argument any stronger; we already know you despise the man, and, like I said, your posts are sadly predictable. It's almost a cry for help.
b. Your side of the aisle decided to attack Limbaugh, a private citizen, who dared defy The Messiah (which backfired), which is why he is on this website so often. It is a topical subject after all, huh?
Okay, let's face it Rog,
April 3, 2009 - 21:19 ET by JerOkay, let's face it Rog, since I've obviously struck a nerve:
Let's see...I've praised Rush for his intelligence, defended him against charges of racism, dismissed the complaints directed at him over his "phony soldiers" remarks; I have never made any snide or mocking remarks about his problems with Oxycontin, and, aside from a suggestion of self-absorption and victimization, never attacked him personally in any other manner. Admttedly, I have frequently decried the tone of his rhetoric, the lack of sensitivity, and the occasional sloppy journalism. And despite that--or because of that--you have deduced I obviously despise the man, and my posts are a "cry for help". Excuse me, but your conclusion is almost painfully absurd.
What must you think of my feelings for, say, Mike Malloy...whom I have in fact personally and viciously berated.
Jer
edit. Granted, I have been too fixated on Rush lately. So I'm going on a self-imposed hiatus and promise not to mention his name for the next thirty days. [Instead, I'll refer to him as "The Other One"--just kidding...I'm knocking it off for awhile.]
Sigh. Pointing out the
April 3, 2009 - 22:00 ET by Roger the ShrubberSigh. Pointing out the obvious is hardly "striking a nerve", now, is it?
Interestingly, the majority of the time you "praise" Limbaugh, there is a "but" right after... and everybody knows that everything before the "but" is B.S. You do earn yourself a mild, gentle back-patting (to go along with your own back-slapping) because you managed to refrain from the typical, tired, old Lefty attacks on Limbaugh (something a more "polished" professional like Stewart cannot seem to not do). That being said (or insert a BUT here, if you like) it hardly removes any doubt in the minds of the overwhelmingly-vast majority of smart-thinking NBers that you are indeed quite invested in criticizing Limbaugh on this website. Call it "painfully absurd", but you have yet to prove me wrong, self back-slapping notwithstanding.
As for Mike Malloy, who gives a rat's ass about your opinion of a nobody? Is he some sort of equal to Limbaugh? Aside from being a Limbaugh wannabe, perhaps? Two different levels of talent on different-sized stages, I'm afraid.
Your self-imposed exile has now begun. Your friends and comrades here at NB eagerly look forward to your compliance.
Rog...True, I have been invested in criticizing Limbaugh.
April 3, 2009 - 22:37 ET by JerRog...
True, I have been invested in criticizing Limbaugh. Do I despise him? No. Do I follow praise of Rush with a "but"...? Not always, but probably the majority of the time as you point out.
Who gives a rat's ass about my opinion of the 'nobody' Mike Malloy? Well, Sargeant Rock for one. Even though I had blasted Malloy and called for his firing in an earlier post, Rock labeled me a "fraud" and a "liberal puke" for not criticizing him for remarks I wasn't even aware Malloy had made. Rock also called me a "jerk", a "fairy", a "moron", and a "shitbag." So, yes, I guess someone does give a rat's ass.
I'm already Jonesing over quitting Limbaugh cold turkey. I'm fighting the overwhelming urge to post another thought which just now came to mind. Okay. One..day..at..a..time. I can do this.
Jer
lol
April 3, 2009 - 22:41 ET by well99Jer just say no.
I'm with you w99
April 3, 2009 - 22:57 ET by bigtimerYeah Jer...
Pretty please...
....I double-dog-dare ya!
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Tell me I'm such a hopeless
April 3, 2009 - 23:12 ET by JerTell me I'm such a hopeless Rush-bashing addict, there is no way on God's green earth I can stop it. Motivate me, bt.
Jer
Nah Jer...the motivating
April 3, 2009 - 23:18 ET by bigtimerNah Jer...the motivating you is your wife's job...the lucky gal...lol!
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Help me, bt...
April 3, 2009 - 23:25 ET by JerShe's leaving for Florida tomorrow for a week. I'll be here all alone. Staring at NB Limbaugh blogs. My fingers at the keyboard, trembling--ready to pounce.
Jer
Well, if you haven't taken
April 3, 2009 - 23:34 ET by bigtimerWell, if you haven't taken the garbage out for over a week with those trembling fingers of yours...she probably just told you she was only leaving for a week...*snicker* snicker*...
Kind of like one of those..."Did She Ever Return...No she Never Returned...and her fate is still Unlearned".... type of deals...lol!
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Hmm...The U-Haul in the
April 3, 2009 - 23:49 ET by JerHmm...The U-Haul in the driveway. Now it's all beginning to make sense.
Jer
~BT
April 4, 2009 - 08:18 ET by choselife3xLeave Jer's wife out of it.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
I have to stick up for Jer here...
April 4, 2009 - 10:51 ET by Tailgunner...he's got class enough to stick around and defend his posts...which can be quite a task.
Jer's the kind of guy that used to fly dogfighters in WWI.
They did their level best to shoot each other down in flames.
But pilots like Jer would always look up and salute their opponent as their aircraft (and their arguments) disintegrated around them.
A liberal, but still a gentleman.
('Balboa', however, is still a moron.)
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
Motivation
April 3, 2009 - 23:31 ET by RukusLOL! I still remember this!
That was funny!
Gary
"Things can only bother you if you let them bother you" -My Dad
Forget it, Gary... I'm
April 3, 2009 - 23:36 ET by JerForget it, Gary...
I'm not asking bt to marry me. [Although I am strangely attracted to her--in a masochistic sort of way.]
Jer
Funny,
April 3, 2009 - 23:44 ET by bigtimerFunny, funny, Jer...
Advice to you in lines below. ;-)
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
"...in a masochistic sort of way"
April 4, 2009 - 00:24 ET by RukusThen in the famous words of Mrs. Jer, "Go for it!" LOL!
Sorry, I couldn't help myself. You two are cracking me up tonight (this morning)! : )
Gary
"Things can only bother you if you let them bother you" -My Dad
Gary... I
April 4, 2009 - 00:43 ET by JerGary...
I think bt's content to just beat me up in cyberspace. :-)
Jer
Was it good for you?
April 4, 2009 - 00:53 ET by bigtimerLOL..in the words of drill anwr from way back when...
...Need a light?
Ahh..the memories. ;-)
I miss her and her wit around here.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
lol
April 3, 2009 - 23:12 ET by well99Between you and Jer you got me laughing my butt off.I havent laughed this hard in a long time.Good nite all and have a good weekend.
w99... You have a good one
April 3, 2009 - 23:20 ET by bigtimerw99...
You have a good one too!
Just throwing that in there real quick...haven't seen you in awhile.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Hey BT
April 4, 2009 - 11:12 ET by well99Warming up down here.If it wasnt for the wind it would be great.Hope it is nice up where your at.
Be strong, Jer. Be strong.
April 4, 2009 - 05:39 ET by Roger the ShrubberBe strong, Jer. Be strong. :)
Rog... Day one: During
April 4, 2009 - 15:13 ET by JerRog...
Day one: During each and every hour, I continuously repeat the following mantra for five minutes--
Obama fails, America succeeds...Obama fails, America succeeds...
Jer
To be honest, Jer, it's guys like you who are more dangerous....
April 5, 2009 - 22:08 ET by Tailgunner...than wackos like Malloy and Stewart.
That's because you undoubtedly seem outwardly normal.
However, you believe in liberalism but seem constitutionally unable to follow your schemes to their logical conclusion, which is usually poverty, misery and tyranny.
You're an unwitting foot soldier for the left marching with hard-bitten, cynical, Stalinist shock troops like Ayers, Wright and Obama who have nothing but contempt for you and others they claim to represent.
Your kind is putty in the hands of hard core Marxist agitators like Obama and his minions who demagogue every current issue as rich vs poor, black vs white, bankers vs debtors, etc for political gain instead of actually trying to solve the problem.
When the word goes down to seize the guns, Jer, do you think they're going to risk getting shot? Hell no.
Obama is going to send you, Jer, you and hundreds of thousands of Americans like you to do their door-to-door 'wet work' against other Americans while they sit back with wine, cigars and Wagyu beef keeping score.
Real liberals never get their hands dirty and real liberals are never around to suffer the consequences of their actions.
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
I know, Rog. You didn't, but
April 3, 2009 - 20:07 ET by balboaI know, Rog. You didn't, but others do.
I tend to argue about Stewart because I think the complaints against him -- most of the complaints -- are really stupid. No one else here will do it! :-)
Balboa, Sorry, you are in
April 3, 2009 - 22:42 ET by LiberalliesBalboa,
Sorry, you are in love with Jon Stewart, who is ashamed of his Eastern European background.
It is nice to know that you love, crass, crude, raunchy, poorly informed "comedy" that Stewart uses. I really would careless about this poorly, hateful Liberal if it wasn't that the mind of millions of 18 to 25 year olds are being formed by what they see on the Daily Show.
Your problem is that your defense of Jon Stewart is really stupid and you do not see it. You are enamored with this man and can't see beyond your love of him.
As I said, I use to love watching Bill Maher and he made fun of conservatives when he was host of Politically Incorrect. Loved the back and forth he had, then he started turning crass, crude, raunchy, etc when he moved to HBO and I could not stand him. It is not that he makes fun of Conservatives, but the way he does it.
Same thing with Jon Stewart. It is not the fact that 99% of the time he is making fun of Conservatives, but that he does it in such a crude, crass, rauncy, childish way and not to mention that 99% of his attacks are baseless and based on biased Liberal information.
Like I said, why won't this retard go after Obama for using cocaine?
are you so blind by your love of Jon Stewart that you can't see that using a drug for recreational purpose is worse than getting hooked on a prescription drug that was prescribed to you because of an ear problem? eh? The sad part is that you laugh at the plight of the latter. Pretty sad how you "compassionate" Liberals love to make fun of the plight of those that they hate.
Well, bal....I tend to
April 3, 2009 - 20:00 ET by JerWell, bal....
I tend to give Rush a pass on the "bone in the nose" remark--it was a long time ago, before he had a nationally syndicated show.
But, if I tune him in for humor, I get mockery instead. If I tune him in for a "serious discussion of issues", I get slander and character assassination.
And this guy is supposed to be the 21st century Buckley?
Jer
Why do a handful of you here
April 3, 2009 - 20:04 ET by bigtimerWhy do a handful of you here get your panties all in a wad when it comes to Rush?
I find it amusing anymore...and like Rog said, so predictable.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Why do you guys get your
April 3, 2009 - 20:07 ET by JerWhy do you guys get your panties in a wad over Olbermann? He doesn't have a fraction of the influence Rush enjoys.
Jer
Jer
April 3, 2009 - 20:26 ET by well99I remember when President Bush and Tony Snow attacked Dobermann.Oh wait that never happened.I dont listen to Rush but I have checked out alot of the attacks on him by the msm and they were bald face lies.That is BS.Olbermann doesnt have the influence because only a small portion of folks listen to his garbage.Now this is a distraction from our JSDS discussion.
Just a note:It would be interesting to see how far Celts and Bruins go this year in the playoffs.Also if the Red Sox could get it together.
well99
April 3, 2009 - 20:36 ET by JerObama didn't attack Rush. But just his finding it necessary to mention him underscores the power and influence of Limbaugh.
Celts may have to get past Atlanta again. As far as Red Sox, Yanks, and Rays, I foresee WAR!
Jer
Jer
April 3, 2009 - 20:45 ET by well99Obama's statement about listening to Rush seemed like a swipe to me.No matter Rush can take care of himself.To be honest I am surprised about the Bruins the most.It should be interesting.
We're ALL predictable: We
April 3, 2009 - 20:09 ET by balboaWe're ALL predictable: We hate Rush. You love him. You hate Stewart and Colbert. We love 'em.
I don't 'hate' Olbermann, Stewart, Franken, et al...
April 4, 2009 - 07:53 ET by TailgunnerDisgust and contempt don't rise to the level of hate.
And we don't need to lie about these morons...even if we were so inclined.
As is usually the case when discussing liberals, the truth is damaging enough.
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
→ Jer
April 3, 2009 - 20:05 ET by Cool ArrowAs a private citizen, can't you sue Rush for slandering you?
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
I'm waiting eagerly for him
April 3, 2009 - 20:09 ET by JerI'm waiting eagerly for him to slander me specifically by name.
Jer
Just keep in mind....
April 4, 2009 - 07:58 ET by Tailgunner...that truth is an absolute defense to slander.
Or has that been legislated away, too?
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
Yeah, I'm hoping to find a
April 4, 2009 - 15:03 ET by JerYeah, I'm hoping to find a sharp lawyer who can finesse that nagging little "truth" obstacle.
Jer
Leave it to the liberals
April 3, 2009 - 20:08 ET by general companyTo take a Stewert thread and spend it talking about Rush. Wonder why they hold Rush to differnt standards? They both have pretty much the same job. Is it because Rush is Right, and speaks the truth, and Stewert is just an ass? Their is no hypocrocy here Bal, Rush meant exactly what he said.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
hmmm general company
April 3, 2009 - 20:11 ET by shawn228Leave it to the liberals
"To take a Stewert thread and spend it talking about Rush"
Isn't this thread about Jon Stewart talking about Rush?
He had my vote
Sorry, g c...I thought that
April 3, 2009 - 20:13 ET by JerSorry, g c...I thought that was Limbaugh's name I saw in the headline of this blog. Must have misread it....as well as all of the previous comments relating to Rush.
Jer
Crap
April 3, 2009 - 20:17 ET by general companyI thought ?
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
:-) R.I.P.
April 3, 2009 - 20:25 ET by Jer:-)
R.I.P. Gilda...
Jer
So you're saying that we should focus....
April 4, 2009 - 07:45 ET by Tailgunner...on the message rather than the messenger?
We'll see how long that lasts around here with you and balboa.
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
The hypocrisy comes from
April 3, 2009 - 20:18 ET by balboaThe hypocrisy comes from your acceptance of anything "off-color" if Rush says it about a liberal, and distaste if it's a liberal saying it about a conservative.
No it doesnt
April 3, 2009 - 20:31 ET by general companyHypocricy means to say one thing and do another, where has Rush done this? Unless you are calling me a hypocrit, in witch case your doubly wrong. Its one thing to be "off color" and be correct, its another to be "off color" with lies or context in question. One I dont mind, the other I do (I explained all of this to you last night) guess it didnt take. The differance matters.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Yeah, I am talking about
April 3, 2009 - 20:33 ET by balboaYeah, I am talking about you, in a general sense.
As for the context codicil, did you feel that way about Franken's execution bit?
Depends
April 3, 2009 - 20:45 ET by general companyNot that I no what you are refering to , but,,,,,,,,,,if he was running for Senate yes, if not no, if he was lying yes, if it was true no. But Frankin is a creep no matter what, a lying creep if fact.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Balboa, Wow! are you
April 3, 2009 - 22:52 ET by LiberalliesBalboa,
Wow! are you kidding me?
Let us put it in your terms...YOU hypocrisy and that of many Liberals who adore Jon Stewart, Colbert and the rest of these idiots comes from the FACT that you Libertards accept anything "off-color" that Stewart, Colbert, etc say about a Liberal, and distate it if a Conservative says it about a Liberal.
Get a clue! you live in one upside down world!
Not to mention, when was the last time that Limbaugh said to anyone, "get the f...ck" out of here? eh?
you do not have a clue what youa re talking about.
The real hypocrites are Liberals like you who accept anything said by your Liberal "comedians", but go crazy if you believe that a Conservative does the same thing.
You are such a typical, run of the mill Liberal, always trying to use moral equivalancy once you are pit against a corner to justify the hate that is spewed by your Liberal gods.
I am embarrassed for you. Neither Rush nor Hannity have ever used the crude, crass, raunchy, etc language to go after Liberals., unlike your god Stewart and your prince Colbert.
I believe you set a record
April 3, 2009 - 23:01 ET by balboaI believe you set a record for cliches in that last post. I suppose you don't consider "anal poisoning" crude.
It is hard to draw comparisons between the two because they are in two inherently different shows. IF Limbaugh's show was like Stewart's, on Comedy Central, I wouldn't have any problem with it. I really don't have much of a problem with it anyway, other than that you think it's funny because Rush said it.
I don't accept "anything" Stewart says.
That comment was a thirty-nine year old remark....
April 4, 2009 - 07:39 ET by Tailgunner...by a much younger Rush in a 'shock jock' format radio show where he was expected to offend callers.
Rush later expressed regret for his remarks.
Stewart is a vicious, classless piece of used chewing gum on the bottom of a sewer worker's shoe compared to Rush.
"A taste for [murder]"? Going to Times Square to "buy drugs"? "Get the f**k out of here?"
Stay classy, Jon.
I've listened to Rush for years and although he has some moments where he has come very close to the line ("How come you can't tickle yourself, but you can masturbate?") he's been a gentleman even with hostile callers.
No comparison.
Sorry, guys.
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
Jer, the OTHER villiage idiot.
April 3, 2009 - 22:03 ET by pahuberLet me help you, Jer.
This is NOT about Rush Limbaugh. Geeez can you EVER stick to the topic at hand?
This is about someone who claims to be funny and is anything, but funny. I suppose you laugh when you hear someone flatulate or get caught eating your own buggers, but most of us do not...
Saying "get the F out" is not funny...get it? I doubt you do...
Have fun trying to divert me with your signature flatulent postings.
Carry on little boy.
Wow
April 3, 2009 - 22:17 ET by well99Guess you need a steel pot and a flak jacket in here.Jer and balboa arent trolling so why the heat?It is just a discussion.As far as being diverted that is up to the poster if they get diverted.
well
April 3, 2009 - 23:12 ET by shawn228He likes to talk about flatulence, so maybe the heat he likes is when he lights a match and farts on it.
He had my vote
I love the newbies with the
April 3, 2009 - 23:14 ET by balboaI love the newbies with the potshots...
Only Rog, well99, and the other regulars can talk to me that way! HARRUMPH!
Yeah, but I actually like
April 4, 2009 - 05:37 ET by Roger the ShrubberYeah, but I actually like Bal... :)
Bal, did you hear who might be the leading lady in the new Thor movie coming out in 2011? None other than your favorite lady....
Movie should be cool: Samuel L. as Nick Fury, Josh Hartnet as Loki....
balbao
April 4, 2009 - 11:02 ET by well99Cool!Here is my first potshot of the day!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_8z7Rej2Rk
well I'm not sure if that was a female or not
April 4, 2009 - 11:06 ET by shawn228but in this case, I could care less, I am in love :-)
He had my vote
lol
April 4, 2009 - 15:32 ET by well99For your glaucoma right..)
Oh yeah ;)
April 5, 2009 - 19:59 ET by pahuber"Only Rog, well99, and the other regulars can talk to me that way! HARRUMPH!"
I suspect life is about to get harder for you here :)_ hehehe
See you around putz.
Shawn
April 4, 2009 - 10:52 ET by well99Oh know!More greenhouse gas.
It's oh NO not oh KNOW. NO = Negative KNOW = Knowledge
April 5, 2009 - 20:07 ET by pahuberUsually, I would agree with some of your posts. Imagine that. I mispell too, but this is a whopper and you made it some sort of deuche mission to attack me. :) bye for now.
well99
April 4, 2009 - 18:55 ET by pahuber"Guess you need a steel pot and a flak jacket in here."
Why?
"Jer and balboa arent trolling so why the heat?"
I do believe you are reaching again, well99.
Calling a spade a spade. Deal with it.
ph
April 5, 2009 - 05:58 ET by well99Ahh no I not.You seem to have a burr under your saddle.You can say anything you want.It dont make it true.So go ahead and whine about Jer and balboa if you feel the need.They can take it.As far as deal with.That hurt.Oh wait it didnt.
well99: "Ahh no I not." pahuber: uh yes you are... the "burr"
April 5, 2009 - 10:45 ET by pahubermust be under your saddle since you jumped into the fray. I never solicited a comment from you since mentioning that God will do whatever He wants. I know that does not sit with you well (no pun).
Sorry, but you will have to deal with it... nothing personal, but I think you are overly sensitive judging from your comments to me and others. I will try to keep that in mind when posting to you as not to offend your sensibilities.
"They can take it" I am not really concerned whether or not they can considering jer & bal's highly moronic posts and drive by trolling (that has not gone unnoticed by many in this forum).
pahuber
ph
April 5, 2009 - 11:17 ET by well99Yawn.Go on with posting your whineing I catch up with you later.
Hey well99 I didn't think you would have an answer.... you never
April 5, 2009 - 11:35 ET by pahuberhave. What is your point in Newsbusters?
Welcome Back to NewsBusters, Ubercon!
April 5, 2009 - 22:44 ET by R D HelmI was wondering when you would return here to continue to spread your steaming bullsqueeze all over the threads of NB.
So, just how was your little involuntary vacation? Did you finally get that red star tattoo on your non-conservative behind? Did you fly down to Cuba and help Fidel pick sugarcane with Cynthia McKinney?
Yeah, you have been here 1 year and 14 weeks, and your first post was just today.
Hell, you couldn't be more obvious if you had chosen UberconII for an SN instead of pahuber.
Well, let me know if you need anything, as I am the Assistant Official Troll Greeter here at NB, my door is always open.
See ya round the threads. :-)
-Dave
This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.
OK Dave
April 5, 2009 - 22:44 ET by BlondeI'm promoting you.
You are now an "official Troll Greeter".
Call me if you need me.
Signed,
Troll Greeter Emeritus,
Blonde.
I hope he fails, too.
Social
April 5, 2009 - 22:54 ET by R D HelmSocial climber. :-^)
-Dave
This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.
R D Helm you sound like you post.
April 6, 2009 - 11:56 ET by pahuber"I was wondering when you would return here to continue to spread your steaming bullsqueeze all over the threads of NB."
Ubercon? Who is that? Do you usually accuse others of being someone they are not?
"So, just how was your little involuntary vacation? Did you finally get
that red star tattoo on your non-conservative behind? Did you fly down
to Cuba and help Fidel pick sugarcane with Cynthia McKinney?"
?
"Yeah, you have been here 1 year and 14 weeks, and your first post was just today"
That is correct.
"Hell, you couldn't be more obvious if you had chosen UberconII for an SN instead of pahuber"
Uh huh...continue... lol
"Well, let me know if you need anything, as I am the Assistant Official Troll Greeter here at NB, my door is always open."
Only the assistant??? Heck, I thought you were master official troll greeter by the way you carried on.
"See ya round the threads. :-)"
I look forward to it.
pahuber
You've been here a year,
April 3, 2009 - 22:44 ET by JerYou've been here a year, pahuber?
Sorry, I never noticed. You may go now.
Jer
lmao
April 3, 2009 - 23:07 ET by well99Nice shot.
your dime
April 3, 2009 - 20:48 ET by CatherwoodMore sugar! Of course, all of you who are paying your satellite tv bill every month are subsidizing this program. Do you think that Comedy Central would even exist without all you satellite subscibers? The really good part is that you have no choice about it. If you subscribe to a certain satellite package you have to have Comedy Central, MTV, BET, CNN, MSNBC and all the other liberal, far left outlets. You can't gripe or even be surprised by what the lefties say when you're paying them to say it. Of
Oh but you can,
April 3, 2009 - 21:13 ET by UpNorthand if you really feel the need, just use the option to block them.
MTV, BET, CNN and MSNBC do not appear on my tv screen, and never will. Or, as somene upthread mentioned, cancel the individual channels.
you still pay
April 4, 2009 - 09:49 ET by CatherwoodYou can block those channels all you like, but you are still paying for them. My assertion is that most of these far left stations would not exist if the public did not blindly accept paying cable and satellite bills without an awareness of where the money is really going.
you still pay
April 4, 2009 - 09:50 ET by CatherwoodYou can block those channels all you like, but you are still paying for them. My assertion is that most of these far left stations would not exist if the public did not blindly accept paying cable and satellite bills without an awareness of where the money is really going.