CNN’s Headline News (or HLN) figured out a liberal angle as it replayed clips of the Fox News interview with Bristol Palin: she’s "glamorizing teen pregnancy." Anchor A.J. Hammer repeatedly promoted this assertion during his show Showbiz Tonight on February 17, including this boast: "Also, new tonight: Sarah Palin’s teenage daughter, Bristol, giving her very first TV interview since becoming a teen mom. But Showbiz Tonight dares to ask, is Bristol Palin glamorizing teen pregnancy?"
Hammer’s two guests, CNN and CBS legal analyst Lisa Bloom and Tanika Ray of the syndicated show Extra, both hammered the Palin points from the left:
HAMMER: Some people might say that by going on television to talk about being a teen mom, 18-year-old Bristol Palin is somehow glamorizing teen pregnancy. Lisa, is that how you see it? Or do you think perhaps she is giving teens a well-needed reality check on what it is like to be a teen mom?
BLOOM: Well, I love that she says that abstinence-only education isn’t realistic. I wonder what her first clue was. You know, maybe when she started giving birth, she started to notice that abstinence education -- you know, what you call people who do abstinence-only education? Parents.
And that’s what happened to Bristol Palin. I think it is great that she is out there telling everyone, "Hey, don’t do what I did." Even better would be to advocate for contraception in schools, God forbid. You go, Bristol. I`m behind you.
HAMMER: Tanika, you see it that way as well? Are you behind her?
RAY: No, I`m not behind her. I thought it was ridiculous when Sarah Palin was on the road saying, "Yes, my daughter is pregnant. But you know, we’re making sure that she’s going to have the baby," as if that was OK.
I just feel like, she missed something along the way parenting her daughter. Yes, abstinence is not really realistic today. But she also - Bristol also didn`t want to talk about why - how she got pregnant in the first place. Was it the lack of contraception? Was it - and she didn`t want to talk about it. So I think that is very interesting. There`s definitely something amiss here.
HAMMER: Yes. She said abstinence is unrealistic, totally against what Sarah Palin went on the road saying. So Lisa, very quickly, five seconds, do you think that, you know, Sarah and Bristol having a little chat today about that?
BLOOM: Oh, I think probably they are. But Bristol, you stand by your guns because you`re right on this one.
RAY: Long overdue. Long overdue.
HAMMER: Lisa Bloom, Tanika Ray, I thank you both.
Ray’s comments at least addressed the real exchange in the interview about abstinence. Hammer displayed a different clip about how Bristol was enjoying teen motherhood. Bristol clearly stammered and stumbled through the abstinence-or-contraception segment of the interview:
VAN SUSTEREN: Does he have any sort of -- does he feel the same way you feel about teen pregnancy and have some sort of -- Well, maybe a good idea to wait usually, unless things happen?
BRISTOL: Yes. He feels the same way I do. We both just -- kids should just wait. It's -- I don't know. It's not glamorous at all.
VAN SUSTEREN: I don't want to pry to personally, but I mean, actually, contraception is an issue here. Is that something that you were just lazy about or not interested, or do you have a philosophical or religious opposition to it or...
BRISTOL: No. I don't want to get into detail about that. But I think abstinence is, like -- like, the -- I don't know how to put it -- like, the main -- everyone should be abstinent or whatever, but it's not realistic at all.
VAN SUSTEREN: Why?
BRISTOL: Because -- I don't want to get into details on this.
VAN SUSTEREN: Well, no, I don't mean personally, just big picture, not -- not necessarily about you, but...
BRISTOL: Because it's more and more accepted now.
VAN SUSTEREN: Among your classmates and kids your age?
BRISTOL: Among -- yes, among kids my age.
VAN SUSTEREN: How do you change that?
BRISTOL: To see stories like this and to see other stories of teen moms and just -- it's something that's -- I don't know, just -- you should just wait 10 years and it'd just be so much easier.
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.





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The issue CNN has isn't
February 19, 2009 - 12:05 ET by taterThe issue CNN has isn't that she's glamorizing teen pregnancy...it's the fact she's glamorizing having the kid instead of an abortion.
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ShowBiz Tonight -- An Anti-Republican Battering Ram
February 19, 2009 - 13:25 ET by allanfHammer and his cohorts have snarkily attacked Sarah Palin, her family and John McCain for months. The light news format provides cover for brutal attacks aimed at convincing young people they are not cool.
Here is a video of the crew attacking Ann Coulter.
So now they are worried
February 19, 2009 - 12:29 ET by motherbeltSo now they are worried about "glamorizing" teen pregnancy????
What a hoot!
I think if Bristol were talking about her decision to have an abortion, no one would be asking if she were "glamorizing" abortion.
Update: GMTA, tater! LOL I didn't see your comment until I posted mine!
I think we have both hit their sore spot!
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asenine
February 19, 2009 - 12:29 ET by jazzact13Whatever else may be said about Bristol's remarks, only someone truly looking to spin them could come away with the idea that she was trying glamourize teen pregnancy. One of the she repeated most was how she wished she had waited, and wanted others to wait.
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Hammer is a liberal. 'Nuff
February 19, 2009 - 12:34 ET by NewsbusterbrownHammer is a liberal. 'Nuff said.
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Bristol Palin - The next Britney Spears?
February 19, 2009 - 12:38 ET by QueenMumOh my, this is rich! Network and cable T.V. have no influence? Or the celebrity culture of the likes of Britney Spears and Paris Hilton and all the other celebs who are applauded for having children out of wedlock? Most young people her age wouldn't even know who she is.
Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand
Um
February 19, 2009 - 17:28 ET by guttermouthYou realize Britney Spears had her 2 children only after she got married, and to this day, Paris Hilton is still childless. You must be thinking of Britney's little sister who got knocked up working on her TV show when she was 16.
Bristol Palin interview
February 19, 2009 - 12:39 ET by BlondeI saw the whole thing on Fox, and my reaction was "huh"?
What on earth was going on there? It was the dumbest interview I've ever seen, totally no point to it. I am really surprised that Sarah Palin allowed it, quite frankly, and even more surprised that she participated in it.
It was very strange, to say the least.
I have to agree with you there
February 19, 2009 - 12:52 ET by mizflame98I can see that Bristol was trying to take an advocacy role in preventing teen pregnancy, but I couldn't figure out why S. Palin felt the need to constantly crash the interview. I like S. Palin, but she was looking like an attention whore in this one.
"Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head." - Francois Guisot
Blonde and Mzflame. I agree.
February 19, 2009 - 12:55 ET by celatorBlonde and Mzflame. I agree. The line between a family's private affairs and what the public "needs to know" was definitely crossed here. For what purpose? Who knows? Very strange.
My only thought
February 19, 2009 - 12:58 ET by BlondeIs that Gov. Palin realized the interview was going poorly and stepped in to try to help her daughter out.
Poor Bristol just looked dumb and dumber every time she opened her mouth.
As I said, I don't know what Sarah Palin was thinking in allowing this interview at all.
Blonde...I'm with you...
February 19, 2009 - 14:18 ET by PrairieSkyI'm guessing that's why Sarah stepped into the interview, too...She saw that it wasn't going well, and tried, I suppose, to run interference for Bristol, who I must say, didn't come across as the brightest, most well-spoken kid in the world.
As I said earlier in this thread, this whole interview idea was a very bad and very strange idea. I'm still scratching my head about the lack of wisdom behind the decision to do it in the first place.
I'm wondering who's idea it was to do this interview?? Greta's, Bristol's, or the Palin's?
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
Agreed, PS
February 19, 2009 - 14:18 ET by BlondeIt was a very bad move, but I think Sarah Palin is still learning about the ways of the media. Granted, I think she views Greta Van Sustren as friendly (which she is), but to allow her young daughter to be interviewed at this time by anyone in the national media was just not too bright.
You're likely right, Blonde...
February 19, 2009 - 14:25 ET by PrairieSkySarah is most likely still learning how the media monster works, but assuming she did either arrange or just approve this idea, it was a very short-sighted and ill-informed decision. I hope that this is the last that we see of any of the Palin's children...They need to be able to return to their private lives, without the intrusive eyes of the MSM watching and reporting everything they do. I hope that this is what is allowed to happen.
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
It was Bristol's
February 19, 2009 - 15:17 ET by mizflame98Bristol said during the interview that she told Sarah the night before that she was doing the interview. Sarah basically stated that Bristol is 18, an adult so it was her decision. But I have to say that the idea that she doesn't understand the way the MSM works seems to be a bit lame. She use to be a sportscaster and has a degree in journalism. You'd think she would get it by now.
"Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head." - Francois Guisot
If that's the case
February 19, 2009 - 15:23 ET by BlondeShe should have left Bristol to deal with her decision and not come to her rescue when the kid started having problems.
I must have missed that part...it was an awful segment. I'm kind of surprised that Greta did it, actually, she's usually pretty respectful of people's feelings.
I hope Bristol learned a valuable lesson.
Excellent point, Blonde!
February 19, 2009 - 15:35 ET by PrairieSky"She should have left Bristol to deal with her decision and not come to her rescue when the kid started having problems."
Part of being an adult and making adult decisions is dealing with the consequences of those decisions...Maybe it would have been better for mom to hang back and allow Bristol to get through it on her own, but as a parent, it is excruciatingly difficult to see your child in a tough situation, and not want to jump in to help get them out of it...I suppose there are lessons for everyone in this situation, huh?
And you're right...It was an awful segment...I too am surprised that Greta did the interview, or at the very least, after viewing it, decided to run it.
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
mizflame...I must have...
February 19, 2009 - 15:24 ET by PrairieSkymissed that...I did leave the room for a couple of minutes during the interview, and I must have missed that part. The fact that Bristol is 18 and an adult is true enough, and the decision was hers to make...I just hope that Sarah at least tried to talk her out of doing it. Who knows...
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
B... I had the same exact
February 19, 2009 - 12:59 ET by bigtimerB...
I had the same exact reaction, I saw it on Fox also a couple of days ago now.
I do know one thing, let us say this was Chelsea and her mother may be running for President in the future, and this exact same thing happened...a blog post was put here about this, I wonder how many people would be posting that it was politics as usual, Hill is using her daughter as a step up the ladder, for whatever program they so decided upon, abstinence, abortion, whatever.
To put Bristol out there like that was not a smart choice in my mind...I kind of felt sorry for her...and I wasn't wondering what her mother was thinking whatsoever, for me it was obvious.
Just my thoughts about this..and I know it isn't popular...but what the heck...it is what it is to me.
BT
February 19, 2009 - 13:14 ET by SeashellI'm with you on this Bigtimer. Putting your child out there is never a good idea. I didn't see the interview, but I don't see how it could have possibly been a good choice for Bristol or Sara. Frankly, most of the choices Sara has made lately have not been helpful to her presidential aspirations IMO.
I said after the election she should lay low for a while and just do her job. I know she was eager to "set the record straight" but she has gone to far. Every time I turn around she in on TV.
I think allowing this interview further illustrates that she is not ready for prime time.
Hi Seashell... On top of
February 19, 2009 - 13:21 ET by bigtimerHi Seashell...
On top of this...Greta showed the interview again last night I think it was, I just cringed and clicked the channel, I couldn't listen to it again.
They aren't that stupid, they have to know that Greta is going to repeat this...just like she did all the other interviews she had with Sarah and Todd.
I just felt sad for Bristol..more than anything.
the unasked question
February 19, 2009 - 12:39 ET by mom_roxHas Bristol or Levi ever been asked if either were aware of contraception before having sex and, if so, did either have access to contraception?
I'm not interested in whether or not they used any (that's their business), just if they were aware of it and had access to it. If the answer is yes, it negates some of the 'this only happened because they were taught abstinence only education'.
There's not a teenager alive today that doesn't
February 19, 2009 - 12:54 ET by thebutlerdiditknow about contraception. Unless they have been home-schooled, and the parents somehow sheltered them, or they were in the Amish community, well, they even know there, so, no! Kids that age can pop off the names of different kinds of BC, what it does, and how it works. Whether parents teach about BC or not, public school, the internet and friends fill kids in quite nicely. I assure you, take what you knew at 25, and by 16, girls now know that, and maybe more. Everyone here knows my 20 yr old daughter is the mother of a 3 yr old, and a 1 yr old. In the public school she attended, briefly, 36 girls in her grade have already had at least one kid, that I know of. Of the girls from her private boarding school, 9 of them, out of 60 girls have already had a least one kid, that I know of. This isn't just in our area. I have some friends from around the country, and several of their kids have had kids, and it is just as predominant in their schools. It is not a lack of BC. It is a mind-set these days. I think of it as a mini epidemic.
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
butler: I initially had a
February 19, 2009 - 13:00 ET by QueenMumbutler: I initially had a similar reaction to mom's post. I think what she was trying to get across is that if someone were to ask Bristol about what she knew about contraception and she could answer that she was aware of the methods available, this would dispel the idea that she was ignorant because she was taught abstinence.
Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand
Di, it is a mini-epidemic
February 19, 2009 - 13:07 ET by BlondeAnd our generation, unfortunately, started it.
When I was in junior high school, it was an absolute horror if a girl got pregnant. One went away for a while. (With all the attendant gossip). Or, worst case, got married and had the baby. By the time I hit high school, Roe v. Wade passed....and voila, casual sex had no consequences at all.
The stigma attached to being a single mother has been removed. It's a tragedy, truly. And one which will reverberate through our society for generations.
I had one young lady who worked for me (I inherited her...but that's another story) who had three children by three different fathers by the time she was 26. And her oldest was eleven! Never married once. With such low self-esteem, she ended up in a crack house, her kids in the custody of the state. I always wondered what became of her kids...that's no way to grow up. That's the real tragedy.
By the time I hit high
February 19, 2009 - 13:23 ET by SeashellBy the time I hit high school, Roe v. Wade passed....and voila, casual sex had no consequences at all.
Your are absolutely right! I can remember hearing girls say "well, if I get pregnant, I can just get an abortion". No consequences at all and morality was shot to hell.
Seashell... I'm from the
February 19, 2009 - 13:38 ET by bigtimerSeashell...
I'm from the same time era...and I remember well what some of the gals I went to school with were doing, getting pregnant intentionally, instead some of them were planning to do it together, meaning around the same time period, welfare was all the rage then, they wanted to be free, move out from control of their strict, terrible, controlling parents...get apartments of their own, be on their own, flip their fingers at their parents and have freedom.
In the end, it was very sad what I saw as some of these gals had their kids, were on their own, and the kids were not taken care of the best...that's as far as I'm going to go into this...but Welfare and the Free Love thing during this time was a God-Send in the leftists minds.
by the way...what the Strangulation Bill has included is completely undoing Welfare and required work etc. to revert back to how it was back then...no agenda here either is there?
Isn't Acceptance What It's All About Libs?
February 19, 2009 - 12:43 ET by flyingmonkeyUsing a politicians child to upstage the beliefs of the politician is about as low as you can get. Bristol made a mistake, took responsibility, and accepted the consequences of her actions. This is more than I can say for most of the talking heads in the MSM.
Like it or not, children do things contrary to their parents beliefs. Even men of the cloth have wayward offspring. The important part is how they react after the indiscretion. whether or not they tale responsibility for their actions. That shows how they were raised. Bristol made an admirable choice consistent with her mothers beliefs..
Children don't always march in lockstep to their parents beliefs. Dick Cheney isn't responsible for his daughters sexual preference as Al Gore isn't responsible for his son speeding down a California Highway high on Marijuana. And look at Chelsea Clinton. She actually seems to have scruples. You know she didn't learn that from mom and dad.
I have to be honest here...
February 19, 2009 - 12:50 ET by PrairieSkyI don't think giving this interview was a good idea at all, and I don't understand what exactly Bristol Palin was trying to accomplish by giving it. She seemed completely unprepared to answer what should have been expected questions from Greta Van Susteren. If the intent was to portray the negatives and difficulties of teen-age, unwed motherhood, then it didn't work. Bristol even said herself that she didn't "regret anything" about her situation, despite the fact that she did say that teens should obviously (duh!!) wait to have kids till they get older.
When I first heard that she was doing this interview, my immediate thought was "bad idea." And the fact that Headline News made hay out of it, doesn't surprise me, and should have been expected. By giving an interview, Bristol is just exposing herself to the negative comments, appraisals and jibes from those in the MSM. This was just a bad idea. At this point, it would seem to me that after what this family had to endure during the campaign, all any of them would want right now (especially Bristol), would be their privacy.
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
I understand your point,
February 19, 2009 - 12:54 ET by QueenMumI understand your point, Prairie. But shouldn't we also be asking if she sought the advice of her mother when she agreed to the interview? I suspect she did.
Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand
I read that she told her mother she wanted to
February 19, 2009 - 13:00 ET by thebutlerdiditbe an advocate for girls who got pregnant, and to talk to kids her age, to try and get them to wait. The problem is, she is obviously a very shy girl, no teenager really wants to give out the personal deets on how they got knocked up, and she is not a great public speaker. I have to say, this wasn't probably that good of an idea, mostly because she didn't really say anything. I admire her for putting herself out there, and trying, though. Especially after the way people like Andy Sullivan have acted deranged in regards to her pregnancy, and her mother's. Good Luck to her.
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
QM...Whether or not Sarah...
February 19, 2009 - 13:07 ET by PrairieSkywas involved in the decision making process about whether to do this interview or not, the bottom line remains that it was a bad idea, and that one would think that this family would want peace, quiet, and PRIVACY! Gov. Palin has, in my humble opinion, been a bit too much "in the news" since the campaign ended...She needs to ratchet it down, focus on her job as governor and mom, and keep out of the national public eye for awhile. It disturbs me a bit that she has been as visible as she has, and whether the interview with Bristol was an attempt by either of them (Bristol or Sarah) to get press attention, it was not a good idea, and hopefully either or both of them, I hope, learn something from the experience.
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
Hi Sky... I feel the same
February 19, 2009 - 13:12 ET by bigtimerHi Sky...
I feel the same as your thoughts in your post.
Completely...
We have a long way to go yet before the next election, and I do not want a candidate already picked for us this early, and it seems as if that is just what has happened, there is plenty of time yet, I don't want to have to be debating about Palin all the time..not all of us agree, as is normal, but it seems as if she is being crammed down our throats already.
In fact the more I hear from Gov. Sanford, the more I am liking him, just for one example.
Oh well, life goes on...we shall see what happens.
Howdy bt!! Me too!
February 19, 2009 - 13:23 ET by PrairieSkyI think Sarah is great, BUT, as you said, there is a long way to go till 2012, and there are several other very good possibilites out there. You're right about Sanford...I like what I've been hearing from him too. I don't want the "inevitable" candidate decided for us, especially this early, thank you very much. If history has taught us anything, it is that truly "anything" can and does happen in politics. A year ago, did anyone really think that we would have President Obama today? I sure didn't. I figured we'd probably have President Clinton...So...like you said... "We shall see what happens."
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
~Governor Sanford
February 19, 2009 - 13:35 ET by choselife3xI just posted about him on the Open Thread. Can anyone tell me if this link works on a regular computer? I notice it has 'mobile' in the address.
http://m.ask.mlvb.ne...
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
cl
February 19, 2009 - 17:43 ET by mom_roxI got this error message when clicking on the link:
~Sorry guys
February 19, 2009 - 17:52 ET by choselife3xSometimes I automatically get kicked to the mobile version of a site so the page address gets all screwy when I try to link. I just searched Gov. Mark Sanford and his contact number was on the main SC page.
I couldn't even FIND a phone number on Jindal's site.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
I think I understand it. I
February 19, 2009 - 13:16 ET by thebutlerdiditI think I understand it. I am guessing she has felt like she has had no voice, but the entire world has known every detail about her life. It is very hard for a teen girl to be preggers, anyway, but I cannot imagine what this has been like. I am guessing she was trying to make a statement, that she was fine, that having a baby at her age was hard, her baby was very cute, and that she was going to stand up for herself, now that her mom is no longer in the running for Veep. Now did it come off well? No. As I said above, she is a typical teen, not very well spoken in those situations, shy, and unsure of how to present herself. I agree, she should just pass on interviewing in the future. Even if she is well-meaning, the press and people on those silly shows like the one above, will continue to tear her down. Nice way to treat a teenage girl, just to get at her mom.
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
tbdi... Just to get at
February 19, 2009 - 13:26 ET by bigtimertbdi...
Just to get at her mom?
Her mom knows what is going on with the msm...she isn't that dumb.
If this was reversed like I posted above with a 'D', the majority of people that post here would say the mom who would be running for Prez in the future is just using this to her benefit...at the expense of her daughter via the msm.
IMHO anyway.
"Gov. Palin has, in my
February 19, 2009 - 14:07 ET by QueenMum"Gov. Palin has, in my humble opinion, been a bit too much "in the news"
since the campaign ended...She needs to ratchet it down, focus on her
job as governor and mom, and keep out of the national public eye
for awhile."
I'm in agreement Prairie. But I wonder if that's possible with the liberal dogs always nipping at her heels.
Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand
QM...I see your point, but...
February 19, 2009 - 14:46 ET by PrairieSkyI think that she should just stop doing interviews with the national media for awhile, unless it directly involves something pertaining to Alaska...Just don't accept anymore requests for interviews.
I'm guessing that she has felt the need to speak out so much in an attempt to try to answer back to and blunt the biased and slanted coverage that she has received by the MSM, and even by some of the statewide press in Alaska. This is likely a futile effort now and in the future, because she is a conservative. The MSM's mind is made up about her, and no matter how many interviews she gives or what she says, they will always be on the attack. Always.
For right now, as I said, I think she should lay low, focus on her duties as governor and mom, and forego any more national media interviews for the time being. I think this would be in her and her family's best interests.
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
We all witnessed how the Democrats
February 19, 2009 - 21:43 ET by Southern voterand the MSM spent years demonizing President Bush....they saw how high his approval ratings were after 9/11....they began at that time tearing him down ..preparing for the 2004 and 2008 elections....fast forward to 2009 ....we all saw what a positive impact Sarah Palin had on over 50 million Americans ....they will keep tearing her down right up till the next election .....she is a tremendous threat to them ....Go Sarah !!!!
Direct result of a 45 year concerted attack on sanity
February 19, 2009 - 12:55 ET by Ten7sIn general, the immediate proximate cause is that, what was once called fornication, is more and more accepted now. The proximate cause is the direct result of Liberalism, a 45 year concerted attack on morality and sanity. The Liberals have fostered an environment where 45,000,000 intentionally killed babies (the most unnatural and immoral thing I can fathom) is reflexivley considered "a good", and one woman on televsion excercising her God given Freedom of Speech about her pregnancy and life is reflexively "a potentially harmful" and irresponsible act.
I say, "Abort Obama, not babies"!
Why oh why?
February 19, 2009 - 13:23 ET by BeanManIt is interesting that Bristol Palin says that abstinance is unrealistic. It is really absurd actually. Nothing against her but if a young boy and a young girl are into heavy petting it is no wonder she sees abstinance as unrealistic. It seems to be unrealistic to her at any rate.
Almost 34 years ago was the "first time" for both my wife and I. It was our wedding night. It didn't seem to be unrealistic for us or for that matter for hundreds of thousands of others that seem to be able to abstain until marriage.
The creation of life is the one real power we share with God. There are no stops on it other than what we put on it ourselves.
I'm glad that she's having the baby and she and the boy are getting married however. I also believe she could have given the baby up for adoption to two parents who want a baby but cannot, for some reason, have one themselves. A young girl who does that, in my opinion, makes one of the most selfless acts a woman can ever make or anyone can make for that matter. She is someone who loves the baby more than she loves anything else, so much so that she is willing to give it to a couple who will love it as their own. He heart will break into a million pieces as she does this but at the same time she knows it is the best thing for the baby and she's still willing to do it. This 180 degrees from what the abortion lovers believe.
Since government is coercion, politics is largely the exercise of deception regarding the intended use of coercion - George Orwell
It is quite realistic for
February 19, 2009 - 19:03 ET by balboaIt is quite realistic for some people. But not everyone. It's just not, as Bristol has demonstrated.
So it's clear that she
February 19, 2009 - 13:30 ET bySo it's clear that she regrets not taking precautions ie birth control measures. It's also clear she has a more realistic veiw of the realities of abstinace....it leads to pregnancies. What's also clear is that Bristol IS prochoice. She made the point to say it was her choice to have the baby.
Maybe there's hope for the Palin bloodline.
P.S.
Hey Sarah... PAY YOUR TAXES ALREADY!!!!
Drunk at this hour?
February 19, 2009 - 14:03 ET by expatriotNCguy,
Pro life is more like it. Take your distorted view back to the daily kos.
c'mon man. ya gotta give me
February 19, 2009 - 14:57 ET byc'mon man. ya gotta give me more than that. explain how my view is distorted? And what does Daily KOS have to do with it?
Drunk at this hour?
February 19, 2009 - 14:05 ET by expatriotNCguy,
Pro life is more like it. Take your distorted view back to the daily kos.
~Expat
February 19, 2009 - 14:11 ET by choselife3xI've seen some of NCguy's other posts. I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
I'll take your word
February 19, 2009 - 15:03 ET by expatriotNCguy seemed a little too trollish so I had to protect a teenaged girl.
too trollish? too funny.
February 19, 2009 - 15:39 ET bytoo trollish? too funny. So what does that say about you and EVERYONE else who post in here?
~PSA
February 19, 2009 - 15:56 ET by choselife3xI just checked NCguy's profile. He's buddies with Ubercon. Say's it all right thar, it does. I believe I had him momentarily confused with TominNC. (my deepest apologies, Tom)
So NCguy, what do you know about Sarah Palin's taxes that the rest of us don't?
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
It's baffeling how black
February 19, 2009 - 16:44 ET byIt's baffeling how black and white you people are. Gotta love those imaginary friend belifs in action.
As for Sarah Palin's taxes...you'd know if you read or listened to any news not rediculously right wing biased.
It's funny how the right is the very definition of the pot calling the kettle black.
~NCguy
February 19, 2009 - 17:38 ET by choselife3xSo what you're saying is, you have no proof?
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
cl3x
February 19, 2009 - 17:44 ET by sherylsimsI think I can explain where NCguy went wrong. He (like a lot of Obama supporters) didn't realize that Sarah Palin was not on the ticket with Obama, and then with his great grasp of *how things work in gubment* thought she had been appointed to Obama's cabinet. There ya have it... tax problems.
~Sheryl
February 19, 2009 - 20:08 ET by choselife3xI'm still trying to figure out NCguy's claim that abstinence leads to pregnancies.....
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
cl3x
February 19, 2009 - 20:23 ET by sherylsimsWhere babies come from. Ok, see it works like this... The stork will come visit and bring a baby to good girls who stay away from unwholesome activities.
(NCguy's dad hasn't told him where babies REALLY come from yet, so we need to be careful not to spoil the myth for him)
"stupid is as stupid
February 20, 2009 - 10:41 ET by"stupid is as stupid does"
Way to go Forrest!
I know it's a brain
February 20, 2009 - 10:40 ET byI know it's a brain burner...but keep thinking about it. The answer will come..
As far as I know, that
February 20, 2009 - 14:08 ET by Ruths husband BenAs far as I know, that only happened once about a couple of thousand years ago.
Not only is there proof...
February 20, 2009 - 10:38 ET byNot only is there proof... Her per diem expense report which is part of her tax problem is availble for all to read.
What's funny is, i'm sure many of you HAVE heard about this...funny how you keep quiet when you know the truth about one of your own! Says MUCH about you.
~EmbarassmenttoNCguy
February 20, 2009 - 14:15 ET by choselife3xIf she had done anything illegal the media would be on it like starving rats.
Oops, I just realized what I'm talking to......
Continue your life of raving lunacy and lonely celibacy; let us know how many women you end up impregnating that way.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Just off the top of my head
February 19, 2009 - 17:51 ET by sherylsimsIn the "rediculously biased" category of news, what I remember about the Palins was that maybe Trig was Bristol's baby, and that Sarah spent alot of money on clothes, and that she fired a trooper because he was her brother-in-law, and she ruined Alaska's economy, and that she shoots wolves from helicopters... There was an awful lot about her in that rediculous news media. I guess the taxes must just be among it all and I missed it.
For once someone made an
February 20, 2009 - 10:35 ET byFor once someone made an intelligent comment in here. You are ABSOLUTELY rIGHT! (on ALL counts)
Thanks for playing :)
Hey NCguy
February 19, 2009 - 14:17 ET by QueenMum"What's also clear is that Bristol IS prochoice. She made the point to say it was her choice to have the baby."
Do you honestly believe that anyone takes this argument seriously? "See. She's pro-choice because she chose to have the baby." How come pro-abortion had to be "softened" to pro-choice? Makes it more palatable, doesn't it? It's all about the spin.
Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand
she is prochoice because
February 19, 2009 - 14:52 ET byshe is prochoice because Bristol defined herself that way.
FYI: pro-abortion IS the spin. It was a religeous right spin to gain control over the republican party. Pro choice = pro-right to privacy, anti moral legistlation & pro-life.
NC Guy ...it's more accurately defined as
February 19, 2009 - 21:30 ET by Southern voterPro-Life vs Pro- Death .....
Bristol is Pro-Life (she chose to keep her baby) as opposed to those who are Pro-Death and choose to murder their own babies...
no, it really isn't. Why
February 20, 2009 - 10:33 ET byno, it really isn't. Why is it you right wing nuts throw out logic, history, truth and the facts to make and justify your point.
Here's something I am positive will be lost on most of you. READY???
Pro-Choice = Pro-Life
Pro-life /= Pro-Choice
Pro-life = >Government ( just like a leeeebral)
Pro-Choice = <Government
~Who's got some WD-40?
February 20, 2009 - 14:18 ET by choselife3xThe wheel in this little fellers cage squeaks something terrible.....
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Hey NCguy
February 19, 2009 - 14:17 ET by QueenMum"What's also clear is that Bristol IS prochoice. She made the point to say it was her choice to have the baby."
Do you honestly believe that anyone takes this argument seriously? "See. She's pro-choice because she chose to have the baby." How come pro-abortion had to be "softened" to pro-choice? Makes it more palatable, doesn't it? It's all about the spin.
Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand
QM... I always thought it
February 20, 2009 - 14:14 ET by Clear thinkerQM...
I always thought it was "pro-murder".
The Cold Hard Truth
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Hey NCguy
February 19, 2009 - 14:24 ET by QueenMumSorry. Double post. Like CoolArrow said.
NCguy, If abstinance
February 19, 2009 - 17:44 ET by KarmaNCguy,
If abstinance leads to pregnancy, does fasting lead to obesity?
Actually...yes it can, and
February 20, 2009 - 10:26 ET byActually...yes it can, and for the same reason. Think about it.
Got it NCguy. Now that I
February 20, 2009 - 13:55 ET by KarmaGot it NCguy.
Now that I thought about it, you are a waste of time.
Soooo Mr. Wizard, by
February 20, 2009 - 14:11 ET by Ruths husband BenSoooo Mr. Wizard, by your logic everyone who has a baby is actually pro-Choice because they chose to have a baby. I get it. Brilliant. And folks here were thinking you were an idiot.
→ Dumb question Hammer
February 19, 2009 - 14:14 ET by Cool ArrowThe real question is "Are we glamorizing sex with beautiful 17 yr. old girls?"
Sorry Hammer, that train has already left the station.
But I've sure got my memories.
OF COURSE IT'S GLAMOROUS!! The pregnancy part is the problem at that age, not the glamor.
→ Slow system
February 19, 2009 - 14:16 ET by Cool Arrow.
I was wondering if it was just me...
February 19, 2009 - 14:30 ET by PrairieSkyApparently it's not...
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
Cool and
February 19, 2009 - 14:36 ET by bigtimerCool and Sky....
Whew...thank you...I thought it was just me too.
Had same thing happen last night for a bit.
Here is my question, Is
February 19, 2009 - 14:30 ET by Radar_OneHere is my question, Is A.J. Hammer glamorizing teen girls being promiscuious?
Barack Obama= Half Honkey...ALL Donkey
They're not hiding from it-----
February 19, 2009 - 14:47 ET by Roscoe MendagoOkay, here goes---
What happened to Bristol Palin, (getting pregnant, having child) may be considered by some to be the absolute worst thing that could happen, but if it's the worst thing that happens in her life, she'll be lucky.....Making no excuses, you just have to live with your mistakes, right. It's refreshing with all the contrived, phoney political families out there, that the Palin family appears real to me, not like the Clinton's, Kennedy's or the Messiah, or name any mobbed-up leftist political household, better known as Democrat congressmen or senators.
Ya know if you're alive, chances are you will screw-up along the way. Okay, there's always that refresh button, yeah right.
I've only made one mistake in my life, I was really right, just thought I was wrong..
I'd like to be more
February 19, 2009 - 18:23 ET by RR GOPI'd like to be more supportive of her because I admire Governor Palin so much, but listening to her all I see and hear is a pretty typical snotty, self-centered teenager with a defiant attitude.
I don't think she thinks she did anything wrong...and in this day and age hardly anyone does, either, Liberal (they just attack to make Sarah Palin look bad and are being hypocritical) or Conservative.
Multiply her by millions and see why we have to pay so much in taxes to support them and have this ongoing, raging abortion issue.
One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.