According to Variety, Chris Wallace, anchor of "Fox News Sunday," differentiated Fox News's coverage of the '08 election and MSNBC's while speaking to reporters at the Television Critics Association press tour. From the article:
"I think MSNBC's coverage went so far over the line that it lost all credibility," Wallace told reporters Monday at the Television Critics Assn. press tour.
Wallace accused MSNBC anchor Keith Olbermann of inappropriately mixing anchor and opinion-making duties, and said Fox News drew a distinction between its reporters and opinion-minded hosts.
"There's a reason why Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity won't be anchoring the election night or the conventions," he said during the sesh at the BevHilton hotel.
That is one reason that I've never bought the argument that Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are the equivalent to Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews. Fox News is not mingling opinion with their political event coverage. The network does have political commentators on election nights, for example Karl Rove, but they properly label them as "Republican strategist" or "Democratic strategist." However, don't expect MSNBC to learn their lesson any time soon. The network announced earlier this month that Olbermann and Matthews will be the 'ringmasters' of their coverage of the conventions this summer.
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Chris Matthews and
July 16, 2008 - 17:22 ET by allamericangirlChris Matthews and Keith Olbermann will be the prime-time ringmasters
Well they used the correct terminology. It will not doubt be a circus and who better to be the ringmasters than these two clowns. I hope they bring the smelling salts in case any of them faint.
"Liberalism is a mental disorder" -Michael Savage
I totally support this...
July 16, 2008 - 17:38 ET by txcoI totally support letting Keith Olbermann cover the convention if it will keep him off of Monday Night Football coverage. I'm not planning on watching the convention anyway but I would like to start watching Monday Night football again...I stopped last year because I couldn't stand Olbermann!
You must have loved it when
July 16, 2008 - 17:57 ET by Biff McCainYou must have loved it when ESPN fired al-Rushbo for racist comments
"Burn that mother down." -- Jimmy Ellis
→ Borne out
July 16, 2008 - 18:00 ET by Cool ArrowWas it Donovan McNabb who brought the Eagles to the Super Bowl, or did he just return from injury list to lose it?
I can't remember.
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There's no comeback to that
July 16, 2008 - 18:15 ET by Ryan Mc.There's no comeback to that one! Bang!
I must agree.
July 16, 2008 - 19:03 ET by Biff McCainSo he lost the SB making al-Rushbo racist comments OK. You're right, there is no comeback for that.
"Burn that mother down." -- Jimmy Ellis
Since Rush didn't make any
July 16, 2008 - 19:08 ET by NewsbusterbrownSince Rush didn't make any racist comments, what are you talking about?
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
LOL Nbb... He's just a
July 16, 2008 - 19:12 ET by bigtimerLOL Nbb...
He's just a troll...doing his nightly job.
Entertaining though at times...if one is bored...or in the mood for laughter.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
[i]Entertaining though at
July 16, 2008 - 19:21 ET by NewsbusterbrownEntertaining though at times...if one is bored...or in the mood for laughter.
The problem is, if we let the lie stay undefended, others will believe it. Therefore, even though he is unquestionably a troll, I personally couldn't let it go without a rebuttal, BT.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Oh hey Nbb... I sure
July 16, 2008 - 19:24 ET by bigtimerOh hey Nbb...
I sure wasn't being critical...I agree...heck I do it myself, if you have noticed...lol.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Oh, I know you weren't being
July 16, 2008 - 19:28 ET by NewsbusterbrownOh, I know you weren't being critical, BT. :-)
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
→ No Biff
July 16, 2008 - 19:13 ET by Cool ArrowYour selective amnesia of the actual unfolding of the event isn't at all surprising.
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Biffster, Rush didn't
July 16, 2008 - 23:03 ET by ConservativeRexBiffster, Rush didn't make any "racist" comments. To paraphrase HS Truman (a despicable little creature, but that's for another day) when told to "give'em hell Harry" replied " I just tell 'em the truth, and they think it's hell".
Rush just told the truth and you just think it's racist. Furthermore Biff, the left has used the word "racist" so much over absolutely nothing for years, (for instance, what Rush said), it now has the impact of calling someone a "poopypants". It just doesn't have any impact anymore, for anyone that matters. You need to come up with something of substance, because racist just ain't getting it.
Biffy, you have made some pretty mindless comments at NB...
July 16, 2008 - 23:18 ET by R D Helm...but that one is a hands down all-timer. :-)
I bet you couldn't correctly define the term "racist" with a loaded and cocked gun pointed right at your head.
You are truly among the more intellectually challenged trolls we have had here at NB.
If, as I suspect, your parents sent you to government school, and if they are still alive, I think you have grounds for a child-abuse lawsuit against them.
And no, I am not kidding.
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
→ Julian Bond, Biff
July 16, 2008 - 19:30 ET by Cool ArrowWhen I was a kid, I watched the 1968 Dem Convention.
Julian Bond was nominated for VP, if for no other reason than to mention a black man.
Inasmuch as I was young, and liberalism is expected of such, I thought the nomination an excellent idea even though all I knew about him was that he was a black man at the Dem Convention. Cronkite loved the idea also.
Bond has proven over the years to be nothing more than the basest of pity panderers inspiring absolutely no gumption in his followers at NAACP.
Wishing does not make it so.
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For the 1,258,753rd time
July 16, 2008 - 23:52 ET by hungarianfalconRush was accusing others (the press) of racial motives in their over promotion (in his opinion) of Donovan McNabb. He made specific reference to Philadelphia and that whole Philly/NY/NJ corridor and the perception by the media that they needed to promote positively McNabb (and black athletes by extension) for the sake of ratings. I don't know those commentators from Adam and Rush has at least rubbed elbows with them so maybe he knows of what he speaks. Otherwise, I thought he was wrong in his analysis because I didn't think McNabb was as spectacularly overrated as Rush did.
That being said, his analysis was not racist in any way, shape, or form. He was accusing others of being racist.
HF
What a load of bull!
July 17, 2008 - 07:35 ET by pbanks7What did he say that was racist? He thought McNabb got glowing press coverage from the media because he was black. Kinda like Obama is getting today. Up to that point, McNabb had journeyman stats, other than his running ability. Apparently Rush's comments inspired McNabb to have a career year.
He was criticizing the media, not McNabb. It didn't even cause a stir until some grievance group made a big deal out of it later that week. Have you got anything else up your sleeve besides that race card?
MSM - shaping all the perceptions you need to believe, then confirming it with a poll.
RACIST??
July 17, 2008 - 07:36 ET by charlietexasWHAT RACIST REMARKS??
HE SPOKE THE TRUTH! AND STILL DOES.
MOM
MSNBC is in a tough spot
July 16, 2008 - 17:49 ET by Dee BunkThey don't have any real news people to draw from
Let's pretend Birt Hume is
July 16, 2008 - 17:54 ET by Biff McCainLet's pretend Birt Hume is fair and balanced.
http://www.youtube.c...
"Burn that mother down." -- Jimmy Ellis
Let's all pretend you Biffy
July 16, 2008 - 17:56 ET by bigtimerLet's all pretend you Biffy aren't here....since you aren't balanced in any way shape or form.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Your video demonstrates
July 16, 2008 - 18:21 ET by Ryan Mc.Your video demonstrates what? Democrats don't think that the war on terror is being used to destroy civil liberties? They are not against Bush fighting in IRAQ? What was not fair and balanced about what he said? Oh that's right, for Democrats telling the truth about Democrats is bias in and of itself. Quoting Democrats is even worse. That's bias squared.
Agreed, Ryan
July 16, 2008 - 21:04 ET by KC MulvilleHume said that "a lot of" Democrats weren't taking the war seriously. To prove Hume is being unfair, you'd have to show that very few (if any) Democrats don't take the war seriously. But instead of proving that few Democrats are guilty of that, Abrams just assumed it. Why? Because it's impossible? Hardly. Every poll showed that the Democrats, especially the far left, believed exactly as Hume said they did.
And even if Abrams was close to being right, the point is that he didn't offer any proof of it. He just took it for granted. He offered a conclusion, but no argument. When you believe something that you can't prove, that makes it a matter of faith. Abrams dismissed Hume because of his own faith about Democrats, but ironically, that's exactly the bias he was trying to disprove.
Biff, Hume's comments were
July 16, 2008 - 18:46 ET by motherbeltBiff, Hume's comments were made during the panel portion of the show, where all the panelists.......wait for it......express their opinions!!
Not that I expect you to still be here and respond; you're a hit-and-run troll. You don't stick around to read the refutations of your "droppings."
Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson
So it's OK can when Hume
July 16, 2008 - 18:58 ET by Biff McCainSo it's OK can when Hume does "panel portion" but not OK when Olberman does PP?
Why didn't Terry Ann say so, it could saved us lots of time.
Wonder why Russert never did PP?
Excuse my lag time, I'm such a slacker.
"Burn that mother down." -- Jimmy Ellis
Hey Biff...
July 16, 2008 - 19:01 ET by Clear thinkerHow's your internship over at MSNBC going?
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Biffy... See little
July 16, 2008 - 19:15 ET by bigtimerBiffy...
See little one...Keithy never has anyone on that disagrees with his views...
See the difference.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Thank you BT
July 16, 2008 - 19:59 ET by Captain KirockHas Olberman EVER had anyone on his show who disagreed with him on anything?
There's a reason why Olbmerman is so scared to debate anyone. His team of writers can't write a script for a debate.
So it's OK can when Hume
July 16, 2008 - 19:36 ET by motherbeltSo it's OK can when Hume does "panel portion" but not OK when Olberman does PP?
Does Olbermann have a panel segment on his show? I don't watch it. If he does, he can insert opinion.
Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson
Thanks Biff,
July 16, 2008 - 18:55 ET by Eileen Righthave a nice day.
Elieen Right, here's a good one.
July 16, 2008 - 19:15 ET by Biff McCainBrit Hume making up the hard news to cover up WH criminal firings of US attorneys.
It's only Fair and Balanced, NPR was reporting the firings as criminal.
Monica Goodling admits to crossing the line, Fox and Hume just leaves that part out --making it OK.
http://www.youtube.c...
"Burn that mother down." -- Jimmy Ellis
Biff... This thread is
July 16, 2008 - 19:20 ET by bigtimerBiff...
This thread is about msnbc bias with Olbie and Matthews...not Hume, who nobody on or affiliated with msnbc could hold a candle to by the way...you tried this yesterday about Hume.
Reread it.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Biffy boy...
July 16, 2008 - 19:23 ET by Clear thinkerHow much does MSNBC pay you during your internship with them?
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its all in carbon credits.
July 17, 2008 - 05:57 ET by Ryan Mc.its all in carbon credits.
Brit Hume making up the
July 16, 2008 - 19:25 ET by NewsbusterbrownBrit Hume making up the hard news to cover up WH criminal firings of US attorneys.
Did Bill Clinton commit a criminal act when he fired US attorneys during his administration, too?
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
What about that Travel
July 16, 2008 - 19:33 ET by Eileen RightWhat about that Travel Office thing?
The way I understand it,
July 16, 2008 - 19:38 ET by Biff McCainThe way I understand it, they were G H W Bush's travel team, W fired Clinton's travel guys too.
Both firings are fine . . . if
July 16, 2008 - 19:44 ET by Free StinkerBoth firings are fine . . . if that was all there was to it.
Main difference, Clinton had the FBI go after Billy Dale & the travel office.
Long time Civil Servants
July 16, 2008 - 19:48 ET by Eileen Rightnot political appointees or personal travel staff.
The way you understand it?
July 17, 2008 - 05:59 ET by Ryan Mc.The way you understand it? Did he or not. Quite frankly I don't believe you. Care to provide any proof?
I'll meet you half way.
July 16, 2008 - 19:34 ET by Biff McCainI must say, Clinton didn't cherry pick firings in the middle of his administration.
But you can throw him in jail for his criminal war.
Obviously you are not aware
July 16, 2008 - 19:37 ET by Free StinkerObviously you are not aware that Presidential appointees server at the pleasure of the President.
→ Not really, Biff
July 16, 2008 - 19:40 ET by Cool ArrowI don't see Clinton's acts of war during his administration as criminal. Could you please explain?
He wasn't my favorite President, but I think he was operating within his duties.
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Biff....just throw your...........
July 16, 2008 - 20:46 ET by BEGRUNThandgrenade and leave PLEASE!! Your boring!!!
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
LIBERAL CRY BABY
July 17, 2008 - 07:40 ET by charlietexasBIFFFFF, WHAT A CRY BABY.......YOUR NAME FITS YOU..LOSER
MOMMY DEAREST
And you are exactly
July 17, 2008 - 17:34 ET by Rukusright. Incoming presidents have the right to fire any US attourneys they wish, as you mention, did Clinton. It's not new at all. They serve at the POTUS' will... period. Good point NBB.
"Nuke 'em 'til they... oh hell, just shoot 'em!"
Yo, Biff
July 16, 2008 - 19:27 ET by Eileen RightI think yourtube.com is calling you...
Thanks again, goodbye.
yes,
July 16, 2008 - 21:13 ET by txcoyour original comment "bet you were glad they fired Rush". Although I don't agree with the reason you gave for the firing....I was glad they got rid of Rush. I have no use for political polarizing figures doing sports...from either side.
As for Britt Hume...let me make this simple for you
Britt Hume=Class
Keith Olbermann=Silly
Was there ever any doubt
July 16, 2008 - 17:52 ET by bigtimerWas there ever any doubt that Chris and Keith wouldn't be the so-called ring masters at their own circus called msnbc.
Nothing but an endless Merry-Go-Round....
It isn't going to matter what Chris Wallace or anybody from Fox says about their blatant juvenile hate-filled leftist bias ...
Phil Griffin is right behind them and supports this filth.
Just my two cents.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
I doubt there will be much
July 16, 2008 - 21:24 ET by ThisnThatI doubt there will be much "reporting" going on either. With these two, it's all about them and their scripts. There will be a lot of Bush and McCain-bashing. A lot of Obama-worshipping. And lots and lots of hate and agenda talking points. Very predictable; very boring; lots of on-air camera shots of Chris and Obermann. Glad I'm going to miss it entirely. I'll read about it on NB during and afterwards. And NB -- don't bother posting any videos. Won't be watching those either.
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Chris Wallace is right. I
July 16, 2008 - 17:56 ET by mjgChris Wallace is right. I have never seen a media as biased as MSNBC and NBC. I don't plan on watching their nightmare of a coverage. Vastly unfair and biased.
MSNBC does the smart thing.
July 16, 2008 - 18:35 ET by matthewleonmartinIf I were them...well...I'd shoot myself...
No, if I were them, I'd put Matthews/Olberman front and center. Sadly for them, those are the only two stars they have. Would anyone tune in to see Chip Gregory? No. From a buisness standpoint it makes perfect sense.
I'll sometimes tune in to Matthews just to laugh at his ridiculous outbursts, and nonsensical ramblings. But Olberman...I feel my blood pressure go up when that clown is on TV.
Your comment "The network
July 16, 2008 - 19:15 ET by Eileen RightYour comment "The network does have political commentators on election nights, for
example Karl Rove, but they properly label them as "Republican
strategist" or "Democratic strategist."
I have noticed lately that they present one of their stable of blondes as "Kirsten Powers, political analyst", she is a former member of Clintoon's admin and a complete lefty. I remember her id'd as a dem in the past, why change? Npte: I don't know if she chimes in on election night's.
Wallace is correct.
July 16, 2008 - 19:38 ET by JerWallace is correct. "Opinion hosts" anchoring conventions is inappropriate [although Matthews is slightly more defensible than Olbermann since the former is less partisan--having previously voted for Bush].
O'Reilly has served as a principal convention anchor in the past, however. [His Republican sympathies were obvious and embarrassing.] I guess Fox learned its lesson. Maybe MSNBC will too.
Jer
I guess Fox learned its
July 16, 2008 - 20:18 ET by Free StinkerI guess Fox learned its lesson.
I wish they'd learn a lesson for their seeming support of McCain during some of the primary reporting.
"They're both doofuses!" --Mark Levin
MSNBC Circus
July 16, 2008 - 20:16 ET by jjkI just feel sorry for the person that has to mop up the set after crissy and keithy have left for the night.....especially under their desks.
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,
God gave them over to a reprobate mind,
Then they will be called liberals!
It's not just Olbermann and
July 16, 2008 - 21:01 ET by marvlIt's not just Olbermann and Matthews. The entire MSNBC network is a circus. I'm surprised there isn't an official MSNBC clown suit that all on-air personalities wear.
I know this is off-topic,
July 17, 2008 - 01:45 ET by Rush FanI know this is off-topic, but I wanted to share this with my fellow bloggers at NewsBusters, and I couldn’t find an appropriate place to post this. Drudge has a link to Foliomag.com for this item: President and Publisher to Leave Newsweek. It warmed my heart when I read the comments associated with this announcement. Read them. Most of the comments match the sentiments regarding the media that we post here.
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The Media is taking Unbelievability to new Heights
July 17, 2008 - 07:23 ET by ZachJonesIsHomeMSNBC does seem to be one of the worst networks reporting this election.
Martin Luther King, Jr., a man I admire greatly,
once said: We are not
makers of history. We are made by history. Within this context
please consider:
Will Our Children Be Able To
Trust What “History” Says About Senator Obama?
Found at:
http://zachjonesishome.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/will-our-children-be-able-to-trust-what-%E2%80%9Chistory%E2%80%9D-says-about-senator-obama/
There is also a companion piece found at:
http://zachjonesishome.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/obamas-i-have-a-dream-speech-rough-draft-found-in-caffe-latte-establishment/
zachjonesishome.wordpress.com
The Loss of Tim Russert Will Be Felt...
July 17, 2008 - 10:20 ET by AmericanEnergistWhile I was not a huge Russert fan, I have to admit that he was the hardest and fairest of the NBC lot.
I am a little upset that fellow Jerseyite, Brian Williams, went on an binge with the Kool-Aid and is hopelessly lost.
www.ArmchairEnergist...
Rubes aplenty
July 17, 2008 - 11:15 ET by Harry 3 LimeIt's invigorating to come to this site occasionally and see that the hick parade still forms on the far right and includes the dumbest people on earth.
Doesn't anybody around here read? Know anything of history? Ever get the urge to leave Kansas?
Harry 3
July 17, 2008 - 11:30 ET by bassndudeEvidently, your reading comperhenson skills are lacking. What history are you speaking of? The simularities of MSNBC and the SS?
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Harry 3 Lime is afraid
July 17, 2008 - 12:32 ET by 911isbusyAny arguments to put forth here? Or, are you afraid a hick will make your hippie ass look even more ridiculous? Ever get the urge to leave College Avenue in Berkeley?
Those who have not swords can still die upon them.
(hee..hee...hee) Limey said
July 17, 2008 - 14:04 ET by Karma(hee..hee...hee) Limey said "rubes". (hee...hee)
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July 17, 2008 - 22:02 ET by dahliatraversYeah. "Rubes". (Heh heh. Heh heh. Heh heh.)
"Rubes". (Heh heh.)