Joe Scarborough Proclaims: 'Of Course' Rick Perry 'Can't Get Elected'
By Scott Whitlock | August 31, 2011 | 12:00
MSNBC's Joe Scarborough shifted into psychic mode on Wednesday, flat-out declaring, "Of course, [Rick Perry] can't get elected in the general election. He can't." The Morning Joe host derided the GOP presidential candidate, even predicting what states Perry would lose and by how much.
Scarborough totally dismissed the Texas governor's chances, ripping, "He can get elected in the Republican primary, but he can't get elected in the general election. The ex-Congressman turned cable host was very specific: "...He can't carry Ohio. He can't carry Pennsylvania."
[See video below. MP3 audio here.]
Despite Perry not even having won the nomination and the general election being 15 months out, Scarborough insisted that the Republican "can't carry Iowa."
The MSNBC anchor even went so far as to prognosticate by just how much Perry would lose the above state by: "He'll lose by 12, 13 points in Iowa in the general election."
It should be pointed out that, according to Gallup, Barack Obama's job approval is at a record low of 38 percent. Real Clear Politics gives the President a mere three point edge over Perry.
A transcript of the August 31 exchange follows:
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DONNY DEUTSCH: Let's say Rick Perry does get the nomination and he's- Can he carry Florida and Ohio? Can a guy like that carry Florida, Pennsylvania, those states?
JOE SCARBOROUGH: He can carry Florida. He can carry Florida, possibly.
DEUTSCH: Even with the ponzi scheme? Social Security?
SCARBOROUGH: He can possibly carry Florida, but he can't carry Ohio. He can't carry Pennsylvania.
DEUTSCH: Well, then he can't get elected.
SCARBOROUGH: Of course, he can't get elected in the general election. He can't. He can get elected in the Republican primary, but he can't get elected in the general election.
MIKE BARNICLE: He is, potentially, a gift for President Obama.
DEUTSCH: Let's play it out for a second though. Because, I didn't think he'd- He can carry Florida. He can carry North Carolina, definitely.
SCARBOROUGH: Yep. And he can carry Virginia.
DEUTSCH: Okay. And Iowa.
SCARBOROUGH: No. He can't carry Iowa.
DEUTSCH: No.
SCARBOROUGH: He'll lose by 12, 13 points in Iowa in the general election.
DEUTSCH: Okay. Okay. Because this election, let's say it is him and Obama is more clearly defined as, where, basically, the swing states even get narrower and narrower. So, if you do the electoral math-
SCARBOROUGH: The numbers don't add up.
DEUTSCH: Florida, North Carolina, what else does he-
SCARBOROUGH: Listen, the bottom line is, it comes down to the Midwest states, Florida and then New Mexico and Arizona, Nevada have come into play. I don't know. I have got a blind spot on Rick Perry in the southwest. I don't know how he would do there, his neighbor in Texas. I do know in the Midwest battle states, you go from Michigan to Ohio. He may win Indiana, which Obama carried last time. But, he'll get absolutely savaged in the suburb of Philadelphia and Bucks County.
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MIKA BRZEZINSKI: And the Republican field is just pathetic.
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each time one of these heads make a prediction-
Submitted by JIMMY1660 on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 12:06pm.
you can feel the panic-liberals have shown their cards-and the voting public will have no more.
Alfred E. Neumann, if running, would be a landslide winner over BHO
Political Idiot
Submitted by Texndoc on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 1:56pm.
This douchebag forever was saying Charlie Crist was going to sweep into office on a politically popular "INDEPENDENT" (No Labels!) wave. The Morning Joe panel refused to acknowledge Marco Rubio until literally 2-3 days before the election when every poll said Marco Rubio was going to win. And then if Rubio was mentioned it was always quickly glossed over as an afterthought "oh, looks like Rubio will win Florida, now on to Nevada....".
The show is unwatchable for me. Mika Boobinski has ventured into self-parody. So ridiculous that she is nothing more that a "I HATE the Republicans!" hate machine that Scarborough just mocks.
"Unwatchable Mornin' Joe"
Submitted by lrgon on Thu, 09/01/2011 - 2:16pm.
But why watch something that is a rigged fight between whom you call a "Boobinski" and a "rino."
Joe is now an entertainer on Television just like Rush and Shawn.These entertainers (Rush referred to himself as one) are on radio and TV to get you to worry about dumb things like Joe's swipe at Perry about his unelectability.
Joe's right -- this time.
Submitted by FAR52 on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 12:18pm.
Perry won't be able to win the general election. If we as a party nominate this block head, we will have assured ourselves of another 4 years of Obama. I couldn't be more certain of that.
I'm glad I don't have....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 12:22pm.
your and Joe's amazing powers of observation and foresight. What a terrible burden that must be. Will you grace us, please, with your certaintude of who will (or possibly could) defeat The Chosen One?
Why?
Submitted by Joe W. on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 12:24pm.
Why can't Gov. Perry defeat Barack Obama, oh mighty political sage, FAR52? What do YOU know that us mere mortals do not? Waiting patiently for you to educate us.....
Because he is a moron and
Submitted by FAR52 on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 2:20pm.
Because he is a moron and that fact will never be more pronounced than when he squares off to debate Obama 3 times. Game over. The people that think Perry is a viable candidate are probably the same crop of folks that thought Sharon Angle and Christine "I'm not a Witch" O'Donnell were viable candidates. Our most important task as republicans at this point is to ensure that Obama never serves a second term. Ideological purity must be set aside.
And to answer someone else's question, I think Romney and Huntsman could easily defeat Obama.
Fat chance
Submitted by Texndoc on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 2:40pm.
Wake me up when Romney or Huntsman have the malkins to take on the trial attorney lobby like Perry did in Texas and drive them out of the state like rats you'd exterminate from the garage. Huntsman. Romney. LOL!!!!!
Who will be the first wimpy white guy to *sigh* and say "Oh, now that President Obama, he's not a bad man!" We don't have to wait, he's already said it : Jon "Rambo" Huntsman.
I want Perry because he can't stand Obama. As Archie Bunker once said when he hired a Jewish lawyer to sue an Arab: "I want someone who's full of hate!"
A "full of hate" candidate
Submitted by FAR52 on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 3:11pm.
A "full of hate" candidate will most certainly cost us the election. There are a ton of independent/moderate voters out there that pulled the lever for Obama last time, but are now looking for a reasonable republican alternative they can support. If we nominate a Perry-type candidate, they will run back into the welcoming arms of Obama. It's just that simple.
Well gee, let's run McCain again
Submitted by Texndoc on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 3:50pm.
After all, we seem totally unconcerned with the Republican BASE (which in case you haven't noticed is growing in numbers) and once again wring our hands and worry about the squishies.
Did you see the liberal professor on Hardball tell a shocked Matthews: "You better believe Perry could beat Obama in (her state) New Hampshire! People are furious with Obama."
We can't win with the base
Submitted by FAR52 on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 4:07pm.
We can't win with the base alone. As soon as we nominate our candidate, the MSM will put on a full court press in favor of The One We Have Been Waiting For. You know that will happen. If we nominate someone that can easily be labeled as unserious, not smart, kind of crazy, and has lots and lots of past quotes to back up those assertions, the middle will vote for Obama. He will get the left and the middle. We will get the right. Game over. Obama wins.
We?
Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 4:13pm.
Who is this "we" you are talking about? Because it's definitely no someone conservative.
-Jon
I see your point, but
Submitted by NC Cop on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 4:16pm.
who is the press NOT going to label as unserious, not smart, kind of crazy with lots of past quotes to back up those assertions? Whether they exist or not, you can bet our one party media will find them. It doesn't matter, MSM wise, who we nominate. They're going to attack him/her with everytyhing they've got.
Oh, please. That is a
Submitted by fitzfong on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 9:16pm.
Oh, please. That is a pathetic piece of "analysis" (and I use the term loosely). Winning the base alone? Are you so arrogant that you'd take the base's support for granted like that? Get something straight, in the very unlikely event that the Republican Party defecates Jon Huntsman as its nominee, it can forget the base. Why? Because most of us have endured your type of Republican in power (Schwarzenegger, Crist, Huntsman, Romney, Bush's 2nd term...) and will not tolerate it anymore. There would be so little distinction on important matters of policy between the Republican and Obama that it's not worth bothering to vote.
It's so predictable how you "No Labels"/Frum Forum-types always trot out the "'moderate'/'swing voters' will run away from X conservative and back into the arms of an outright Marxist failure, prolonging the misery, because they're "uncomfortable" with how the media portrays X conservative" cliche. Are you people really so soft, so unprincipled and so shallow that you'll support 4 more years of abject incompetence to spare yourself the indignity of defending Perry's "dropped g"s at cocktail parties? There's already a party for you and your ilk...the Democrat Party.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
Argh. This is why I said a
Submitted by amyshulk on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 9:31pm.
Argh. This is why I said a while back we should focus on congress vs. the Presidency. Vetting is fine, tearing each other to pieces saying we know best isn't IMO.
NO R candidate will be acceptable to the D's/msm. They will pound/smear/etc. the R's, even Huntsman.
The difference this time I think will be in embarrassed 1st timers in '08 sitting this one out. About 1 1/2 years in, the 1st generation Latino I know {he lived with us for that time period} went from "Yes we can" to "Oops, I'll never do that {vote like it's IDOL} again"!!!
Will those voters vote R this time? *He* just might. Now that he understands what's going on and has a family to support.
I've said it before - those I's are NOT independent. They are ignorant. They know just enough to follow the herd, and since the msm has the horses and lassos...
Ronald Reagan
Ok then...
Submitted by retrocon on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 6:18pm.
You've met him, when?
You are comparing a long time politician (not that i like that), with newcomers. You are saying Perry, who has not even stumbled some "ums" that i've seen in his meet-and-greets, will lose a debate with the teleprompter? Obama barely held his own against a nearly senile McCain.
I don't know 100% about Perry yet, so i won't say he would be great, but i do know that he would destroy Obama in an open debate. Of course, that won't happen. If the GOP candidate is anyone with 1/2 a brain, the MSM and Obama camp will wrap so many rules around the debate that Obama will be able to script it, and to leave his teleprompter there to do it for him.
As for Romney... i'll give you the dirty little secret that the left knows, and why they want him as the GOP candidate. Some on the evangelical right will NOT vote for him. Oh, they won't vote for Obama either, but they won't vote. Like it or not, a small, but not insignificant, voting block on the right thinks that LDS is a cult, I know, i was married to one for awhile. They potentially number a couple of percent, which could be enough for the TOTUS to keep his office.
I agree with all except
Submitted by buddyc on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 2:44pm.
I agree with all except calling Perry a "block head". Perry is well qualified, bright, and a very good politician. He has experience and a record of success. But can he overcome being compared to W, who is still very unpopular and also was a Texas governor?
Bush has a better approval
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 6:40pm.
Bush has a better approval than Obama. But who cares, he can and if selected for GOP nod will win.
Regardless of whether we get Perry or we end up with Obama
Submitted by lrgon on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 3:29pm.
for another term the polices won't change. Either one will continue laddling out big government at home and endless wars abroad, more attacks on the Constitution and diminishing personal freedom.
Yeah Joe,
Submitted by Bob K on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 12:22pm.
I always give the opinion of a guy who resigned for lame "family" reasons from Congress a whole lot of weight. I have long thought this clown should no more be a talking head than Eliot Spitzer.
Someone should inform Mika
Submitted by Immortal Fish on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 12:24pm.
Someone should inform Mika that the current Democrat presidential field is even worse.
Gee, lemme think...
Submitted by ex buff e-dub on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 12:24pm.
"You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
Aren't Perry supporters all "bitter clingers"? So, if those who support Perry are "bitter clingers" and Pennsylvanians are "bitter clingers", does it not follow that Pennsylvanians will likely support Perry?
Perry can't win Ohio and Pennsylvania....
Submitted by Prester John on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 12:27pm.
...unlike John McCain.
Oh wait......
Do they know where Reagan was
Submitted by Edhenry on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 12:39pm.
Do they know where Reagan was in Sept of '79?
which potential candidate would make me vote for Obama?
Submitted by kata on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 12:42pm.
None of the above. But I am just a red dot in a big blue sea. It's hard to have a perception, when you live among liberals, that Obama could do anything but win.
So shouldn't you leftist be happy?
Submitted by Don L on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 12:52pm.
You have to love the left's certainty that Palin/Perry etc., could never get elected. Why then, rational folks want to know, would you leftists not shrink silently back into the shadows from whence you operate and sit quietly while the right self-destructs?
Could it be, that they not only know Perry/Palin could and might very well get elected, but they are actually lying and deceiving their audience about such things?
Naw, even though the insist that character no longer matters, they also want us to believe they are honest in their reporting and opining.
Nice try lefties, nice try.
I'm still not convinced
Submitted by HockeyKid on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 1:05pm.
that Perry's the man, but the more I hear him, the more he grows on me.
As for Scarborough, his crystal ball is as good as anyone else's--which is to say, worthless. The "experts" said Reagan didn't stand a chance against Carter, either, and Reagan whipped ol' Grits 46 states to 4. So much for experts.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Perry "grows on you" like fungus?
Submitted by lrgon on Thu, 09/01/2011 - 1:20am.
The Texs Governor signed a "hate crimes" bill that enhances penalties for crimes committed against a certain class of people.
Isn't justice supposed to be blind? The courts are to treat all crime equally and render punishment according to the crime? that's the way it once operated in Texas but Perry Obamanized the laws of Texas before there was an Obama on the national scene.
Perry gave the usual politican's drivel: "As the Governor of our diverse state, in all matters it is my desire to seek common ground for the common good. In the end, we are all Texans and we must be united as we walk together into the future. ... With my signature today, Texas now has stronger criminal penalties against crime motivated by hate.
President Obama signed a similar law, and the Texas statute signed by Perry does effectively establish a special “protected class” status including enhanced sentencing for crimes allegedly motivated by bias against it.
Gov Perry has been my
Submitted by marpel on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 1:11pm.
Gov Perry has been my Governor for 10 yrs...and he's very popular in Texas. What is different about Perry is that he listens to the people. He had introduced the Trans Texas Corridor here, and it was extremely unpopular with the people. He listened to us and backed away from it...and he said, "The people of Texas have spoken"...unlike BO, who didn't care who was against the health care bill!!
Perry in 2012!!
"Deep within my heart lies a memory. A song of ol' San Antone..."
Ditto.
Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 1:29pm.
He has admitted to making mistakes about that Trans Texas Corridor thing and it's a dead issue now as far as he's concerned.
Now some of you might take issue with me on this and I respect a lot of you here, but this vaccine thing that has been brought up time and time again, I haven't heard anyone refute that it had included a parental opt out if parents objected to it.
And the thing about the border situation, he made a good point that there needed to be more boots on the ground, not just a big fence because someone will just build a bigger ladder. And the amnesty thing, from what I read, he was referring to the students who were in this country legally (I have a friend who has one working for him), has a visa, obeyed the laws and were treated like any other citizen. I really couldn't find anything about him granting some kind of amnesty to illegals or words to that effect and of course, illegals will be deported(as is happening now).
If these things are wrong, please tell me, and prove me wrong.
-Jon
Jon, you are correct on the
Submitted by marpel on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 2:34pm.
Jon, you are correct on the illegal issue. There is a parental opt out for the shot...but I even had my son get the shot. I had cervical cancer. It's too important of an issue with me.
"Deep within my heart lies a memory. A song of ol' San Antone..."
Wrong
Submitted by Marsh on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 3:49pm.
"he was referring to the students who were in this country legally"
Wrong. They just had to be students who attended 3 years of a Texas high school. Nothing about them being here legally. They could have jumped the border with their parents when they were 13 and they would be eligible for in state tuition just as long as they attended the 3 years of school.
"haven't heard anyone refute that it had included a parental opt out if parents objected to it. "
First of all he issued an executive order for the inoculations in order to avoid a likely veto by the legislature. An Obama like move if I've ever heard of one.
And parents just couldn't opt out. They had to file an affidavit to get permission to opt out. He was making guinea pigs of sixth grade girls with a vaccine that had just gone on the market.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16948093/ns/health-childrens_health/t/texas-...
Perry is doing the impossible: making Romney look good in my eyes.
Try again
Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 4:05pm.
You'll have to do a little better than using MSNBC and the AP as a source.
That's not helping your case any at all.
-Jon
RP65
Submitted by kata on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 4:17pm.
In it's entirety. The "Texas Immunization Exclusion FAQ" is in PDF from if you want to Google it.
Yes
Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 4:23pm.
And here's the opt out part in that file:
Parents’ Rights.The Department of State Health Services will, in order to protect the right of parents to be the final authority on their children’s health care, modify the current process in order to allow parents to submit a request for a conscientious objection affidavit form via the Internet while maintaining privacy safeguards under current law.
I do not see where it gives a penalty for not doing the vaccine.
And yes, the order regarding the vaccine got overridden by the Texas Legislature and he accepted it. He might have some good ideas or bad ideas, but he accepts the final results when the people speaks.
Try comparing that to the manchild that ignores the people such as Obamacare. And if he can't get something through the legal means such as the US Legislature, he overrides them by executive order and Congress for some reason doesn't see fit to override him. Case in point, the DREAM act.
-Jon
I guess you enjoy
Submitted by Marsh on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 5:44pm.
jumping through hoops to protect your child from a brand new vaccine that a politician wants to rams down your throat.
What do you want me to say?
Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 7:07pm.
What am I supposed to say about this?
I don't have any kids, but I would be very leery of any new vaccine coming out.
-Jon
~As of this moment
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 7:15pm.
as far as I am aware, parent's always have an opt-out for vaccinations, but they make it a hassle and try to guilt you at every turn. Your children are also barred from many organized group activities like summer camp without proof of standard vaccinations like MMR, DPT, polio, and Hep B.
It's been overturned
Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 7:19pm.
The Texas Legislature overturned his executive order, and even though he was disappointed about it, he didn't try to pursue the issue. Just like he didn't pursue the issue of the Trans Corridor.
-Jon
~I was speaking in general terms
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 7:54pm.
about standard childhood vaccinations across the US. I'm not in Texas, unfortunately.
Acceptable sources list becoming awfully thin, jon...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 4:28pm.
NYT, WaPo: out; wiki: out; snopes, politifact, factchek: out; AP, reuters: out; MSNBC: out; mediamatters [even verbatim trancripts and videos]: out; CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, NPR, PBS: ??? (probably out)
So what do you consider reliable authority besides Drudge, Ace of Spades, and Pamela Geller?
Jer
You got it
Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 4:36pm.
You hit the nail on the head, the list you described is just a small part of it. I don't know Ace of Spaces and I recently heard of Pamela Geller, but her I hardly ever frequent. It's just a matter of reading between the lines on some of them but only a few some of them.
Newsmax, Fox News(as long as they aren't repeating the above like AP which they do sometimes), and even some of the links on Drudge are a bit questionable(on occasion). I trust Rush on many things but sometimes I had to question him when at the beginning, he didn't believe that Soetoro was hurting this country by design but he'll give his view on some news article or event. So sometimes even the more reliable ones had to be questioned. There are some others I can't remember the names of at the moment.
It's a very small list.
-Jon
Jon I seem to remember Perry
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 6:50pm.
Jon I seem to remember Perry not saying illegals not apply. He was vague about that part. I was not happy with it, for all non citizens.
Am I missing something?
Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 7:13pm.
Ok,I must be missing something because of the executive order I read, the vaccine thing was not forced on people like some people are saying was happening.
I'm not trying to be some kinda cheerleader for Perry, but what are people seeing that I apparently seem to be missing? I mean,even Tom Tancredo was busting on Perry about it, referencing a speech Perry did in 2007 which I looked at and I didn't see anything about him helping illegals unless I somehow missed it. Was there another speech that Perry gave about that subject?
The Trans corridor thing keeps getting brought up, even though it's a dead issue, he said it's a dead issue, so why are people still trying to hammer him over that?
I'm also not trying to be deliberately dense about this, apparently some of you on here believe these things and I want to understand why when I see it to the contrary.
And regardless of whatever these issues are, is it truly worse than the Muslim in Chief we have sowing the Arab Spring discord in the middle east and has placed us in greater danger in so many ways than before?
-Jon
"dead issue' or dead tissue?
Submitted by lrgon on Thu, 09/01/2011 - 2:10pm.
"The Trans corridor thing keeps getting brought up, even though it's a dead issue., he said...."
Perry may have said it but he is the one who refuses to give up on it:
Just give the TransTexas Corridor a name change says Perry and build it over their objections.
The TTC was proclaimed dead two years ago by nearly every public official; however, Texas Governor Rick Perry declared at the time, "We'll build it, but we'll just change the name." Now the Corridor, which has always been the cynosure of Perry's transportation policy, is getting a new push.
State Representative Larry Phillips has introduced H.B. 3789, one of several related bills affecting infrastructure — a reincarnation of the old legislation that enabled the Corridor projects, but without the old name.
The Lord said none are so blind as those who will not see. The truth is staring at you right in the face.
http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/6905-trans-texas-corridor-here...
a
Submitted by Marsh on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 5:45pm.
a
At least I used a source
Submitted by Marsh on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 5:46pm.
as opposed to your "as I understand it"
A source, Marsh, is important for---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 09/01/2011 - 12:59am.
supporting your contentions and/or statements; but using "a source" isn't necessarily a game winner.
"---as I understand it---" has likely caused far more personal opinions to be formed than has "a source", and those personal opinions have undoubtedly put more people into elective office than has a "source."
MD
He may have backed off the Trans Texas Corridor but
Submitted by lrgon on Thu, 09/01/2011 - 1:26am.
he still isn't giving up on he idea!
NEWS FLASH! From Governor Perry's office:"We'll build it, but we'll just change the name.
The TTC was proclaimed dead two years ago by nearly every public official; however, Texas Governor Rick Perry declared at the time, "We'll build it, but we'll just change the name." Now the Corridor, is getting new life breathed into it.
State Representative Larry Phillips has introduced H.B. 3789, one of several related bills affecting infrastructure — a reincarnation of the old legislation that enabled the Corridor projects, but without the old name.
You are backing a con artist.
marpel~
Submitted by Georgia Girl on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 7:36pm.
Good to hear from someone Perry serves. AMEN to the attitude/principle of listening to the people. What I have seen and read so far about Perry has me hopeful. I just got done reading his book.
Thanks for your post~
"If not us, who? If not now, when?" -- Ronald Reagan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6LGSzNW9xU
Joe needs to remember that BO
Submitted by Maestroh on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 1:15pm.
Joe needs to remember that BO is no longer an empty suit with no record; he is now an empty suit with a terrible economic record.
Besides:
Johnson was as good as in in 67;
Ford was a goner in 75 (lost by 2 points)
Reagan was too conservative in 79;
Bush couldn't lose in 91
Clinton was a toss-up in 95;
Gore was a shoo-in in 99;
And Hillary was going to best Rudi in 2007 - we all know how that ended
Making a
Submitted by Brad90956 on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 1:36pm.
prediction about the presidency when it is 15 months away is a joke. No one knows how things will change or what will happen. That statement by Scarborough is not only very stupid but just proves once again that MSNBC is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the DNC.
This from a man that claims
Submitted by John21 on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 1:56pm.
This from a man that claims to be conservative (RINO) and could only find a paying job with the liberal talking heads at MSNBC. He was never very conservative before joining the DNC propaganda site, and has been working very hard to become a liberal elitist ever since.
Why would anyone believe anything he ahas to say?
morning blow
Submitted by jimtrees on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 2:01pm.
Why is Mika on the show? Joe seems like he hates all the republicans running. Rick Perry will bury obama in a general election held at any time. Put that that in your pipe rino.
Jim, Mika's on the show to
Submitted by marpel on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 2:59pm.
Jim, Mika's on the show to get my blood pressure up to stroke level before I go to work...I can't stand that woman and all her stupid faces...
"Deep within my heart lies a memory. A song of ol' San Antone..."
News flash: Perry is a "RINO"
Submitted by lrgon on Thu, 09/01/2011 - 1:57am.
1.He tried to paint Texas blue as algores's campaign manager in the Lone star state.
2.Tried to force teenage girls to take a drug just because his pals at the mega drug corp.wanted him to push their drugs on kids.>>> Google Perry and Gardacil. I dare ya.
3. Raised biggest taxes in Texas for Texans and gave a break for his campaign contributors. Oh just take the Texas two step test>>>
4. Slush funds for out of state companies that went bankrupt
5. Invites the reds to Texas to fix Texas' busted pipes>>>http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/8514-rick-perry-chinas-new-best-friend
6.Perry has his own "Dream Act" just like Nancy peloso and Harry Reid.Whoopie in Texas we do amnesty BIG!!! " Give them there illegal kids' a free college edgi-kayshun,boys on the house!"
7. Sanctuary cities Governing
Hear what Texans have to say about Perry >>http://www.rlc.org/2011/08/12/texas-rlc-sends-out-warning-on-rick-perry/
curious
Submitted by kata on Thu, 09/01/2011 - 2:36pm.
so who is your favored candidate?
I don't care for Joe but he
Submitted by buddyc on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 2:40pm.
I don't care for Joe but he is probably correct.
Bachman, Palin, and Romney all have a better chance than Perry. He is the right guy at the wrong time. I loved W but the last 2-3 years he never seemed to try to sell or defend his agenda. His popularity suffered from his coasting and lack of consideration of other republicans who were left to eplain and support his 8 years.
Electing another republican governor from Texas after W being as unpopular as he was and still is, will be VERY DIFFICULT no matter how qualified Perry is. It is simply to soon. I can't believe Republicans would ignore this. It will translate into a 5-8% hit in the election results. Perry should have waited for 2016 or 2020.
Yep
Submitted by kata on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 2:47pm.
unfortunately this sort of "branding" does work for people who are too lazy to think for themselves. I have a close relative that said (on the day Perry announced) "I don't want another Texas idiot for President" and although he had no idea who he was or what he stood for - that was enough.
Ohio and PA
Submitted by dmaley1714 on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 3:31pm.
Are going to be so happy with high electric rates and another 25,000 people out of work do to closing of coal plants that they reject a pro energy governor. It is a little early to be smoking the peace pipe.
If MSNBC denizens had brains
Submitted by russedav on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 5:51pm.
they'd be dangerous.
Just like when Pres Obama
Submitted by amyshulk on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 7:26pm.
Just like when Pres Obama says he won't do something, and I can bank on that's exactly what he WILL do {look out vets!!!} If Joe says no go, I figure it's a home run. Tool.
Ronald Reagan
Hey Joe ... settle the death of Lori .....
Submitted by jmigyanka@msn.com on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 7:42pm.
.... Klausutis. I think Joe may have a murder on his hands soon.
See why here: http://archive.democrats.com/preview.cfm?term=Joe%20Scarborough
http://www.americanpolitics.com/20010808Klausutis.html
May 29, 2003 video of Don Imus asking Scarborough about his dead intern (Lori Kalusutis) problem
http://flyingsnail.com/Dahbud/firejoescarborough.html
Perry Can't Win Pennsylvania
Submitted by ckc1227 on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 8:55pm.
But so what? He doesn't need to win Pennsylvania. He doesn't even need to win Iowa. All he has to do is win the same states that Bush won, and Pennsylvania wasn't one of them. Iowa was, but he still would have one if hadn't carried it.
Ohio, on the other hand, is a biggie.
Joe is a moron
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 9:01pm.
Perry, or any other Repub nominee will win all 50 states, even Vermont. Just you watch
"Joe is a moron" states boudin in full-fledged arrogance
Submitted by lrgon on Thu, 09/01/2011 - 1:52pm.
as if simply calling somebody a name settles the debate.
Pathetic, eh?
Submitted by Superman on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 9:19pm.
Well first of all, Joe Scarborough is a RINO so it's not a surprise to hear him bash the Republican front runner who happens to be very conservative. As for Mika Brzezinski saying that the Republican candidates are "pathetic", well, that just further exposes Mika's liberal bias and Obama water carrying. Also, I don't think the Republican candidates are "pathetic" when they are beating Obama in the polls.
The "front runner who happens to be very conservative?"
Submitted by lrgon on Thu, 09/01/2011 - 2:03pm.
Give me a break. Perry is as conservative as Algore whose boots he was licking back in 88 when the algore ran for president.
George H.W. Bush called Gore the "ozone man," back in the eighties!
And this guy from Texas that lied to the nation that if he ran for president it would be God's doing not his. Who in the world can trust a man who uses God to further his own personal ambitions but a politician who one year is for turning Texas BLUE and the next claims to want to try Bernanke for treason!
Well, he's got one guy fooled - the guy who uses a moniker from a comic book.
As opposed to the moniker ellergon,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 09/01/2011 - 10:04pm.
or is it eye-rgon; or maybe err-gon, who has fooled absolutely no one into believing he has anything worthwhile to say.
Besides, who in the world can trust a man such as eller-I-err-gon who implies that he is a mind reader?
MD
This is hilarious - Joe is
Submitted by amyshulk on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 7:48am.
This is hilarious - Joe is slamming Perry for being a D {blue dog} and switching to R when the D's veered left. And saying "he isn't really a conservative" like people don't grow up and change? The sane ones do IMO!!!
Ronald Reagan