During an interview with John McCain on Sunday’s This Week, George Stephanopoulos practically begged with the Arizona senator to repudiate "death panel" claims by former Governor Sarah Palin. Speaking of the health care bill, Stephanopoulos attacked euthanasia worries and lobbied, "[Obama] called that an extraordinary lie. And he is right about that, isn't he?"
The former top Clinton aide turned journalist reworked the same query four more times. After McCain referred to the fact that a Senate panel dropped a provision on end-of-life counseling, Stephanopoulos interrupted, "I don't think that's correct, Senator. The bill, all it said was that if a patient wanted to have a Medicare consultation about end of life issues, they could have it, at their request. And the doctor would get reimbursed for it. No panel."
The back and forth continued. McCain cited rationing and the This Week host retorted, "But that's not a death panel." Stephanopoulos was not to be deterred by this argument from the senator: "So what does that lead to? Doesn't that lead to a possibility, at least opens the door to a possibility of rationing and decisions made, such are made in other countries?" The ABC anchor complained, "Boy, every, single independent group that looked at it said it just wasn't true."
Politico reported in January that Stephanopoulos has daily phone conversations with White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. Stephanopoulos later denied this, but he certainly seemed to be echoing the White House on Sunday.
In an op-ed in the August 19 Washington Times, Robert W. Painter argued that, at the local level, having doctors counsel patients on end-of-life does lead to rationing. Painter, an attorney, cited Texas as an example:
The truth is, for many states, Mrs. Palin's assessment likely is dead-on, except the "death panels" would be hospital-run, not government-run. Consider Texas. The Texas Advance Directives Act of 1999 became law with support from a broad ideological spectrum, but one of its unintended consequences has been astounding. When a patient or family wants health care to continue but the attending physician does not, the Texas law allows a hospital committee to have the final say under the amorphous concept of "medical futility."
Texas law only requires the hospital to provide the patient and family with 48 hours' notice before a hospital "ethics" committee meets and makes a decision on terminating life support. There are few due-process safeguards in the law to protect patients during this committee proceeding.
Once the hospital ethics committee decides that further care is medically futile, the family is given just 10 days to find a facility that will accept the patient, or the hospital and doctors can end curative care with impunity. Virginia law is similar but gives the family 14 days.
Furthermore, if the statute is followed, the hospital and others involved are cloaked with complete criminal, civil and licensing immunity. In other words, even if the hospital's decision to pull life support was incorrect, it is immune from lawsuit or prosecution. All this sounds quite like a "death panel" to me. Under Texas law, the hospitals are not just allowed to try to persuade a family to "pull the plug" but are allowed to take the action themselves and end all curative care if the family disagrees.
A partial transcript of the August 23 This Week, which aired at 10:10am, follows:
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: The President also says that the debate has been infected by falsehoods. And probably the most notorious one is the one made by your former running mate, Sarah Palin, who said that his bill would encourage death panels that would encourage euthanasia [sic]. He called that an extraordinary lie. And he is right about that, isn't he?
SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN: Well, I think that what we're talking about here, is are we going to have groups that actually advise people, as these decisions are made later in life?
STEPHANOPOULOS: That's not in the bill.
MCCAIN: But, it's been taken out. But, the way that it was written made it a little bit ambiguous. And another thing-
STEPHANOPOULOS: I don't think that's correct, Senator. The bill, all it said was that if a patient wanted to have a Medicare consultation about end of life issues, they could have it, at their request. And the doctor would get reimbursed for it. No panel.
MCCAIN: But there was a provision in the bill that talks about a board that would decide the most effective measures to provide health care for people. Okay? Now, we had amendments. We Republicans have said that in no way would that affect the decisions that the patients would made and their families. That was rejected by the Democrats and the health committee.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But that's not a death panel.
MCCAIN: So, what does it- so what does that lead to? Doesn't that lead to a possibility, at least opens the door to a possibility of rationing and decisions made, such are made in other countries?
STEPHANOPOULOS: Boy, every, single independent group that looked at it said it just wasn't true.
MCCAIN: Well, then why did the Democrats turn down our amendments that clarified that none of the decisions that would be made by this board would in any way affect the depriving of needed treatments for patients? I don't know why they did that then.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So, you think Sarah Palin was right?
MCCAIN: Look, I don't think they were, "death panels." Don't get me wrong. I don't think that. But on the best treatment procedures part of the bill, they- it does open it up to decisions being made as far- that should be left - those choices left to the patient and the individual. That's what I think is pretty clear, which was a different section of the bill.
—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.
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McPain
August 25, 2009 - 14:44 ET by 10ksnookerWho?
The point missed is it's both the Republicans and the Democrats wrecking America and destroying freedom
Does anybody think McPain would be any different than Obama, just slower.
The first thing out of
August 25, 2009 - 14:43 ET by mattmThe first thing out of McCain's mouth should have been, "George, are you a journalist or a propagandist for the administration.?
The second thing should have been, "If you have a question for Sarah Palin, have her on your show."
Thirdly, "The term "death panels" was meant as a description of part of what this socialized healthcare program calls for, not as an actual term listed in the legislation, so to call it a lie is deceptive."
The first reply says it
August 25, 2009 - 14:54 ET by Chris NormanThe first reply says it all. As long as the GOPers answer the MSM's loaded questions, they give credency to their propaganda (barely) masquerading as journalism.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Maverick McCain is just the man
August 25, 2009 - 15:03 ET by allanf... to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Wait for his bold compromise.
Pehaps Meghan McCain will serve on the new Health Care Commission?
death panels is too kind of
August 25, 2009 - 15:33 ET by mandrakedeath panels is too kind of term. Here in Canada we have DEATH squads that hunt down the elderly and unproductive. I am constantly on the run..which is hard to do when you walk with a cane. So do everything you can to defeat Obama's evil plan!
Run, Forest, run!
August 25, 2009 - 17:09 ET by GalvanicYou must play for the Edmonton Oilers, mandrake. ;-)
McRino needs to just shut up and go away
August 25, 2009 - 14:50 ET by R D HelmI was just reading a thread over at HotAir, and some were saying that McCain is trying to work out some type of "compromise" on ObamaCare with his "friends" across the aisle, and that he is getting roundly booed at his town hall meeting for making excuses for Obama.
He needs to just kick back and watch the SS Obama sink of its own accord, and stop trying to plug the holes in the hull.
The man is senile.
-Dave
McCain
August 25, 2009 - 15:44 ET by BlondeI'd imagine he's just like every other critter...won't accept calls or e-mails from non constituents.
So...I think we need to flood his snail-mail box with postcards.
Let's be consistent:
I hope he fails, too.
J,
August 25, 2009 - 19:49 ET by R D HelmThat is an excellent idea, and they should be sent to his office in DC as well as Arizona.
-Dave
Dave~
August 25, 2009 - 16:16 ET by Georgia GirlI saw some of that townhall meeting. He was doing that "now let's all be nice and not get carried away with our passions" thing that he does, like nobody can be the slightest bit intense. That irritated me, and he was way overboard. Believe me, this was a very dignified and steady crowd -- but they were articulate and concerned and came armed with real questions. One lady asked if the President does indeed know our country has a Constitution because it doesn't seem so...and McCain went on this little "let's be respectful to the President" condescending type of response. Like: "Oh yes -- he absolutely does, I know that...and he respects our Constitution -- I know for sure -- oh yes he does (as the crowd began to gently boo that they disagreed & he tried to hush them) -- now let's be respectful to the President -- he just has a different belief on this healthcare business, not on the Constitution..." Obviously, I'm paraphrasing, but that was the essence of what he said.
McCain wanted everyone to be oh-so calm (they were anyway)...Yes, let's not get all fired up because our country is being overtaken by a socialist, Senator McCain. That would be just terrible. LOL. He was watered down, as usual. I really feel like McCain doesn't connect the dots. He went on about how terrible government run healthcare would be -- and that is not the way to go -- but never would connect anything directly back to Obama, like there wasn't anything was intentionally being done, as though it's all just a difference of opinion and wound up like this. Very weird. And it was wimpy, like he was playing politician so he didn't get the Democrats upset. Gosh golly gee, let's not get overly excited about all this, heaven forbid. LOL.
The three things I did like that he said (quite clearly) were: 1) co-ops are a back door to government takeover of healthcare 2) the "public option" means government-run, no two ways around it -- and that is not something we should sign up for & 3) He's deeply worried about the reconciliation possibility and thinks nobody should stand for that -- we should fight against that ever happening -- it would be an entirely different way of doing business that he deeply opposes.
So he did not seem like he was going to compromise on the big issues, if you can go off those three points...frankly, I don't know what the heck he can compromise on (of any substance) with the Democrats. Weird.
GG - I watched it, too
August 25, 2009 - 16:47 ET by FeynmanFanMcCain is trying to be a nice guy. And he's already proved that nice guys finish last in politics. I don't think he's ever going to change his outlook on things and that he will continue to give up ground to the left trying to be "fair".
I greatly admire and appreciate the sacrifices he's made for our country, but he's just not tough-minded enough to be a politician in these times.
"I support the President but not his policies" - Blonde
He was also asked about the
August 25, 2009 - 16:54 ET by bigtimerHe was also asked about the Czars, and where is the opposition to these people/positions from you in congress, he was asked about illegal aliens getting free care (standing ovation was given), he was asked to say NO ~ NO Compromises/Nuke it Now! regarding the O-Care Bill ,he as asked about feeling that our personal freedom being taken away incrementally via this bill and elsewhere, etc etc,
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
FF~
August 25, 2009 - 19:43 ET by Georgia GirlYou summed it up well (you know, after my long ramble, LOL). I appreciate his sacrifice to our country as well. But you're right -- he's "fair" to a fault -- which translates many times into not taking a firm stance. I think he always wants to be seen as the reasonable guy who can "reach across the aisle." The only problem is that in that reaching, he seems to sometimes lose his grounding....he is too wishy-washy for me in general. To be fair, with his life experiences, he probably has a very different perspective, which is understandable. I think he's a very decent guy -- but I don't think he's what the American people need today, in terms of leading in a strong way. That said, I'd take him over Obama in a heartbeat! ^_^
GG, When McJackass said that Obama respected the Constitution..
August 25, 2009 - 19:55 ET by R D Helm...I nearly tossed my cookies.
These people have been using our founding document for butt-wipe since 12:00:01pm, January20, 2009, and haven stopped since.
I have now seen all of the videos of that town hall meeting. It is little wonder why he got creamed by Obama.
-Dave
Dave~
August 26, 2009 - 08:02 ET by Georgia GirlWasn't Obama a Constitutional law professor? Call me overly suspicious (and I probably am at this point), but it makes me wonder why he honed into that particular area of study. Catch my drift? ((^_^))
Visiting Lecturer
August 26, 2009 - 11:02 ET by slickwillie2001The Bamster was never a professor or an associate professor of any kind. At the University of Chicago law school he was what they called a 'visiting lecturer'. His subsequent performance should put to rest any thought that he is an expert on the Constitution.
Slick~
August 26, 2009 - 11:07 ET by Georgia GirlThanks. A visiting lecturer is much different. ^_^ It may be even worse if he was an "expert"...knowing just enough to try to find any "loopholes," if you know what I mean.
trust
August 25, 2009 - 14:58 ET by the mad poleI trust McCain as far as I can throw my I.V. tube.
Stephy lost it when he giggled like a girl on air when ABC reported Florida went to Gore.
I trust Mr. Levin and Mr. Liddy.
And isn't trust what they're asking for?
Steph. has no shame, no how, ever
August 25, 2009 - 15:03 ET by SickofLibsI am really getting sick of this 'death panel' crap... like anyone actually thinks there would be an imposing table with Grim Reapers summarily passing judgments.
The term is obviously a metaphor for what may happen if and when care is diverted or disallowed based on age, quality of life or a particular infirmity... it's NOT about a mere consultation with a doctor and whether or not he will get reimbursed for the consultation, which is what they are using for obfuscation.
People WILL die unnecessarily if this were to pass in it's present form. They are as uncomfortable with the word death as they are with the word abortion.
Call it Senior's Health Issues for all I care, but it's not going to change what it is.
Apparently George
August 25, 2009 - 15:04 ET by FeynmanFanApparently George is into the business of shaping the news rather than reporting the news. He needs to either start reporting the news, just give his opinion on events, or shut up.
"I support the President but not his policies" - Blonde
Re Johnny Mac
August 25, 2009 - 15:05 ET by slickwillie2001Yep, Rush was bouncing off the walls in his last hour about McCain possibly looking for compromise, "reaching across the aisle" and all that crap of his. Always ready to throw a lifeline to our enemies. I hope he gets such a rough reception in townhalls that he backs off this nonsense.
Town hall
August 25, 2009 - 15:14 ET by the mad poleFox carried it live. Some of the questions were so inane, I turned on SpongeBob for the kids and walked away.
Out of five questionaires, only one put it to the RINO.
McC is booed...O respects Constitution
August 25, 2009 - 15:25 ET by bigtimertmp...
there were excellent questions etc...one gal got a standing ovation, from me here at home too regarding illegal aliens, there were plenty of others that were just as well, one gal said NO Bill, Nuke it NOW...of course I watched all the question/answer period.
Here McC gets booed.
There will be other youtube videos later...McC doesn't get it, it was obvious, of course I expect nothing less.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
bt,
August 25, 2009 - 15:45 ET by R D HelmI liked the comments-they were better than the video.
-Dave
LOL Dave... I think some
August 25, 2009 - 16:11 ET by bigtimerLOL Dave...
I think some better vids will come later...and there are some, I'm waiting awhile to get some links.
He's clueless...he really is.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
McCain
August 25, 2009 - 16:24 ET by misterbillGarofalo McCain --he is still a giant suck ass!!!
I knew I should not have voted for that weasel!!!!!!!1
misterb... Levin is
August 25, 2009 - 17:46 ET by bigtimermisterb...
Levin is outraged with McC and this reference about how O respects the Constitution at the TH Meeting today.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
currently--
August 25, 2009 - 17:56 ET by misterbill--reading Levin's Liberty and Tyranny now. I do not listen to any radio because of my poor hearing.
Hey he's got on David
August 25, 2009 - 18:04 ET by bigtimerHey he's got on David Hendrick right now, the guy from Wa./Baird TH Meeting, Hendrick is talking about how Levin is who he listens to everyday, read his book, got him off the couch and take part in all of what is going on to us out here...like he said, 'Stay AWAY from MY kids!'...among other great words, speaking for us all, hope to listen to hear if Hendrick also caught McC's TH today.
Nevertheless...I have nothing but admiration for this man Hendrick, Levin is playing some of the greatest clips from his words...including Pelosi looking for the swastika on her own sleeve.
I've upheld my end of the Constitution...when are you going to uphold yours?
He just said he may run for office in the future, he says he has been getting a lot of crap from the left, I think they picked on the wrong Marine to 'eff with.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
When I saw this David Hendrick guy on Hannity...
August 25, 2009 - 20:03 ET by jawebster1I thought to myself: Hey, this guy is very articulate and he is right on. I thought, if he lives in Baird's district, he should run against him in 2010. Mark Levin thought the same thing because he asked him if he were going to run for office. Hendrick said he was thinking about it. I say do it! Jim Webster
BT- is this the same
August 25, 2009 - 20:30 ET by JAJTBT-
is this the same Baird that Rush was talking about today. he said that Baird (to Politico) said that he has never seen our country so divided and that he beleives the american people are truly scared. this whole healthcare thing took him by surprise.
God bless that Marine! and all the others who are speaking up!JAJT
McCompromise just turns my
August 25, 2009 - 15:08 ET by SnappyMcCompromise just turns my stomach everytime I hear him trying to please all sides with his answers. Even his tried and true cut spending "Maverick" lines were just pandering.
"And so "My Friend" I ask you please to sit down and stop trying to help with your bi-partisan to the rescue Maverick nonsense.....oh, and can you take your daughter with you?"
McCain? John? Not Meghan, John?
August 25, 2009 - 15:14 ET by BKeyserAnd if he had -or had not, who would care? George is lifting his leg by the wrong tree here.
McCain must have gotten the
August 25, 2009 - 15:25 ET by billbMcCain must have gotten the message, He's campaigning for Obamacare at a "Town Hall" today. He is STILL a mole!
the 52 page book written in 1997-
August 25, 2009 - 15:31 ET by JIMMY1660and being used in the VA hospitals may be the template Geo. wants us to over look. when you believe in something like death Panels,as BHO does. admit it and explain why you want to kill off us old timers. I believe all those who go back to prison twice should be reading the book. i would readily admit that.
BHO- THE PROGRESSIVE PIRATE
These people need some "zingers"!
August 25, 2009 - 15:44 ET by metaphorsbwithuWill any of these people ever learn to anticipate a question and be prepared with a zinger that will resonate with everyday people?
McCain could have simply said, "No, the term, death panel" is not specifically in HB 3200 or in outlines of Senate bills. But the concept is there, and was explained in Tom Daschele's book (holds up copy of What We Can Do About the Health-care Crisis) who was Pres. Obama's first choice for Sec. of Health and Human services, and it's supported by Rahm Emanuel's brother Ezekial, one of Obama's chief health advisors.
"I have their statements on the issues outlined if you'd care to read them. Now, if you don't like our description of such bureaucrats who have the power of life or death over the elderly, what term would you like us to use, George? Seeing you seem to be such an apologist for this administration.
"Re-distribution of Health administrators, maybe?"
metaphorsbwithu
MCsponge
August 25, 2009 - 16:59 ET by cajun2I think MCSPONGE continues to suffer from PTSD. Lets send him to the VA and he can pick up his copy of YOUR LIFE-YOUR CHOICE!!!!This is the same guy who left the campaign to vote yes on a spending bill that gave 34million to Nancy for her pet project, saving a marsh mouse. How about 4million to study why pigs stink. I live in the country. I could have told them for free that pigs in Ark or pigs in DC stink for the same reason. They are all full of crap.
SOOWEEEE!
August 25, 2009 - 17:36 ET by metaphorsbwithuMaybe once they find out a cause for pig stink they'll come up with a remedy ... like lipstick, rouge, and cologne maybe?
Just for fun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWMynRGeR88
Liberal hog heaven! On second thought, maybe the problem is under their arms?
metaphorsbwithu
Scott...
August 25, 2009 - 15:46 ET by PA ConservativeI find the 2nd paragraph of your article to be incredibly offensive. Let's get something straight...Stephie is absolutely NOT a journalist! What were you thinking when you referred to him as such? Shame on you! :o)
PAC
That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends,
it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to
institute new government...
Leave--
August 25, 2009 - 18:00 ET by misterbillLeave McSuckass alone, boo hoo, boo hoo!
Don't you kneow he is just trying to be bipartisan?
He's just that kind of nice guy. Why, he even got circumcised at 45 to win the Jewish vote. Look carefully at his neck--you will see the scar..
Say, can anyone tell I am not a McCrumble fan???
"you will see the scar" - Har!
August 25, 2009 - 18:11 ET by SickofLibsAnd yes, I can tell.
Independence is in the eye of the beholder . . .
August 25, 2009 - 16:49 ET by GalvanicSTEPHANOPOULOS: "Boy, every, single independent group that looked at it said it just wasn't true."
That's right. Groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center, ACORN, ABC News, SEIU, the New Black Panther Party, Code Pink, and the ACLU -- every group that has an advisor representing them in the White House.
Right on, right on. Funny they never name their...
August 25, 2009 - 19:55 ET by jawebster1sources. Jim Webster
All this town hall stuff is fine and good, but
August 25, 2009 - 17:48 ET by lsudolemite1. Is anybody actually going to challenge McCain in a Republican primary in 2010?
2. If someone is, are any Republicans prepared to vote against McCain?
When it comes to Congress everyone wants to vote the bums out, except when it comes to their incumbent bum who's been around forever. None of this outrage means much to me until people start putting their vote where their mouths are.
Isu... I agree...and yes
August 25, 2009 - 17:56 ET by bigtimerIsu...
I agree...and yes there is someone really running against McC, hope he wins too...my hope is that people wake up in huge numbers like they are now...and do vote the bums out....I'm not holding my breath, by the same token, I've never seen anything like what is going on in this country that is taking place now with the conservatives etc.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
You're absolutely right,
August 25, 2009 - 18:47 ET by metaphorsbwithuYou're absolutely right, BT.
It would only take two weeks of some manufactured crisis for a majority of the people to forget what has happened (or enough of those that pay attention at all) and allow themselves to be diverted from what is most important.
There will be no resting until the bums are tossed out ... and then we must still remain vigilant.
metaphorsbwithu
And almost as if on cue
August 25, 2009 - 20:09 ET by lsudolemiteHolder goes full steam ahead in prosecuting CIA interrogators. That evil, evil Bush!! And this after he forced Obama to maintain and expand executive powers like warrantless wiretapping.
Isu... Here is a link I
August 25, 2009 - 18:17 ET by bigtimerIsu...
Here is a link I found regarding who is running against McC....
Chris Simcox, co-founder of the Minute Men/ think Border.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
Good start, but Arizona residents are gonna
August 25, 2009 - 20:05 ET by lsudolemiteneed to give him a ton of grass roots support for him to even have a chance. There's no way Simcox is going to see a dime of state or federal RNC campaign money. And unfortunately he isn't married to a multi-millionaire heiress to help out with funding, so people need to get the word out.
Now if only we could get rid of Mary Landrieu in my own state. She's going to have big problems if she ends up voting for Obamacare after showing public skepticism.
Oh, why why why????!?!?!?!
August 25, 2009 - 17:57 ET by retroconWhy does he have to be one of my Senators???
We actually had a chance to get him out at the primaries next year. I say "had" because we have a good alternative republican, but a third, well known, but somewhat infamous person threw their hat into the ring, so now we have one good, but not well known republican candidate, one high name-recognition candidate with issues, and "Mr. Compromise your values" himself.
Which means ... yes, we'll probably be stuck with this guy again.
2010
August 25, 2009 - 18:13 ET by slickwillie2001Johnny Mac is up in 2010, will he be challenged in a Republican primary?
Why don't Republicans and
August 25, 2009 - 18:37 ET by carolina conservativeWhy don't Republicans and Conservatives call out these journalists on their blatant bias? Such as: (names changed to protect the not so innocent)
Reporter/Obama spokesperson: [Obama] called that an extraordinary lie. And he is right about that, isn't he?
Johnny Mac: Before I answer your [air quotes] "question," let me show you how a REAL journalist would have asked it: "Obama called that an extraordinary lie. Is it an extraordinary lie?" Now, to answer your [air quotes] "question..."
I know it's a minor example of bias, but that's probably how the media became as biased as they are - by introducing it very slowly.
McCain is wrong...again. There were "Death Panels". What...
August 25, 2009 - 19:52 ET by jawebster1else can you call government when it comes between the patient, his family and his doctor? What about the VA and the government influencing veterans to "pull the plug" if they think they are a burden to their families or society? Sounds like a "death panel" to me. I don't watch liberal commentators and this interview shows why. I don't like being lied to based on political bias, especially when it is so obvious. Jim Webster
Sad isn't it. I read most of the comments here and...
August 25, 2009 - 20:08 ET by jawebster1it seems McCain is not very popular with us "posters". If we continue to nominate people like McCain who are not liked by their core constituency, then we deserve what we get. "Don't Blame Me. I Voted For Palin!" Jim Webster
i can't decide who is more
August 25, 2009 - 20:12 ET by JAJTi can't decide who is more irriating short George, and he is short. and McCain whom i voted for...
JAJT
Either Boy George is still
August 25, 2009 - 20:37 ET by RR GOPEither Boy George is still young enough to think he'll never get sick and have to wait for health care, or that he'll have enough wealth (left) to buy premium care (if that even exists...by then I guess Canada would be the place to go).
That's pretty much the attitude I'm getting from the talking heads and the assorted RINO, Lib and Communist pundits on this issue.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
Sarah Wins Another One.
August 25, 2009 - 22:04 ET by pbthinkerSo, while Georgie Boy was pestering John McCain, trying to get him the throw his VP under the bus, Fox News was putting the VA Secretary through the grill on their death book. Once again, Fox does it's job and the VA is left stuttering trying to explain why the book, that wasn't on their website and wasn't being referenced, is on their website and being referenced.
Election 2008-God's way of showing us that elections count.
Trust the wife
August 25, 2009 - 22:35 ET by LindamaeMary Maitlin - Jim Carvelle's wife complained that the men were just like a group of old lady gossips having to talk every morning. I believe her. So, Rahm, George, Jim, Stanley - sometimes - & Paul call and discuss the issues of the day. Sometimes, she said, Rahm will call just to say he can't talk that day. Of course, Rahm stays with Stanley Greenberg and his wife Rosa DiLauro while in DC - an issue of legality since it is a single family place (just like single payer?) but no one complains.
"Politico reported in January that Stephanopoulos has daily phone conversations
with White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. Stephanopoulos later
denied this, but he certainly seemed to be echoing the White House on
Sunday."
Why would anyone listen to George - he's such an Obama media shill - but no better or no worse than the rest of the media. Even Meet the Press has been Obamcized. Rule: never let a negative comment about Obama hit the air. Yetch.
We should boycott George - but isn't the network losing viewers?