MSNBC host David Shuster on Thursday relied on the liberal group Media Matters to help him as he tried to "sift through the spin and get at the truth" of a Republican-created chart purporting to show government-run health care as a confusing maze of bureaucracy. Shuster began by complaining, "Is the conservative media deliberately trying to avoid any fact-checking when it comes to Republican talking points?"
The cable anchor appeared incensed that the graph, released by congressional Republicans, has been featured on Fox News and the Drudge Report. Introducing Karl Frisch, Senior Media Fellow at Media Matters, Shuster attacked its reliability and fumed, "Is this another example of, at least with some of the conservative media, it’s to their strategic benefit not to bother checking things out?"
The MSNBC News Live host appeared to rely on Media Matters as an objective truth teller despite the fact that the organization has attacked him and colleague Chris Matthews for not being sufficiently supportive of the Clintons. On February 8, 2008, Media Matters chided Shuster for details relating to his apology in regards to his comment that Chelsea Clinton was being "pimped out" by her then candidate mom.
On January 11, 2008, the liberal organization fretted, "Does Chris Matthews have a problem with women?" In the post, Media Matters also attacked the Hardball host for comments about other female, Democratic politicians.
Shuster closed out his interview on Thursday by solemnly asserting, "...It just underscores the challenge that a lot of us have. I mean, for those of us, you and I, [co-host Tamron Hall], who do want to do their due diligence, it's sort of an unfair playing field when there are others like, ‘Just look at this chart. This is it.’"
Of course, Shuster’s liberal bias has long been in evidence. On his now- cancelled show 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, he featured a segment called Hypocrisy Watch that went after conservative/Republican politicians 71 percent of the time. So, perhaps, Shuster should rethink whether or not he’s doing his "due diligence" in covering the news.
A transcript of the MSNBC News Live segment, which aired at 3:37pm, follows:
DAVID SHUSTER: Is the conservative media deliberately trying to avoid any fact-checking when it comes to Republican talking points? Yesterday, Republicans released this chart, purporting to show the Candy Land of new agencies and red tape they say health care reform will create. And the release from Republican Congressman Kevin McCarthy, quote, "Why should any patient be required to give control of their health care over to this Faustian pit of Washington bureaucracy?" The conservative media picked up the chart and ran with it and the talking points- and of course- the chart were everywhere within 24 hour. Democrats say the chart has nothing to do with the health care bill they’ve proposed. So, who has the responsibility to sift through the spin and get at the truth? Joining us now is Karl Frisch, senior Media Fellow at Media Matters for America. Karl, thanks for coming in. Is this another example of, at least with some of the conservative media, it’s to their strategic benefit not to bother checking things out?
KARL FRISCH (Media Matters): I think so. I mean, really what it is, is a textbook example of the right wing noise machine. A Republican politician pushes something out to the press. Matt Drudge picks it up, puts it on his website. And then Fox News starts running with it show after show after show. And then a few more outlets pick it up and before you know it, something confined to a press release is in front of millions of Americans at home.
SHUSTER: Likewise, I mean, if the Democrats make a claim about this not being the chart, there’s a responsible on some of us if we're not going to say, okay, this is not the Democratic plan to also go through- which is also something we try do. Try to figure out. And there are clear examples of why the chart was inaccurate. But, again, there’s a responsibility on everyone. And I wonder what happens to a political debate when you have some news , organizations who are doing their due diligence, we’re trying to check things out, and you have others who don't want to.
FRISCH: Well, that's the big problem here. For 70 years, conservative interest groups, conservatives in general have been attacking health care reform plans as something socialist that we should all be afraid of. This chart is no different. It fits right into that plan. They actually did something very, very similar in 1994, so it's nothing unique. It’s nothing original. It's recycled garbage. And, I think, the American people, you look at polls, 72 percent want a public option. They want a solution. They don't want a fourth grade, you know, ability to use Microsoft Publisher. They want real answers.
SHUSTER: Now, as far as if health care is concerned, if we were to try to chart the flowchart now as it currently stands with for-profit insurance companies and the bureaucracies and the business administrators that often stand between you and your doctors, would it be simple or would it be complicated?
FRISCH: It would be very complicated. I mean, when I first saw this chart, I thought, what are they trying say? Health care is complicated? No kidding. 40 million Americans know that this is a complicated problem. I actually did some digging of my own and found the Republican plan chart all drawn up in great detail and I'd like to show it to you right there. [Holds up a blank paper with a large question mark on it.] I mean, that's how easy it is to put something out there like this or that chart when we could be having a serious discussion about the ups and downs of any policy discussion.
SHUSTER: Karl Frisch from Media Matters. Karl, thanks so much for coming in. We appreciate it. And, Tamron, again, it just underscores the challenge that a lot of us have. I mean, for those of us, you and I, Tamron, who do want to do their due diligence, it's sort of an unfair playing field when there are others like, "Just look at this chart. This is it."
TAMRON HALL: And it is unfair, obviously, to those many Americans who want to see which way the country will go with health care, when- if this is the case, an organization on whatever side of this, deliberately tries to confuse. And that obviously makes it unfair to the people.
Updated by Noel Sheppard at 8:54 PM.
It seems Shuster's fact checkers goofed again, for Congressman McCarthy didn't write, "Why should any patient be required to give control of their health care over to this Faustian pit of Washington bureaucracy?" That came from Congressman Kevin Brady of Texas.
Honestly, this entire network is a disgrace.
—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.




















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The chart is too simple. I have been reading this piece of crap
July 16, 2009 - 17:21 ET by JTPbill for the last 6 hours to see how it would affect my company. This 1000 + page piece of donkey dung is not worthy to start a campfire with. They were sure to include a section stating the penalties of $100 per day for each day you are not in compliance among other things. As reported here earlier if you are not in a plan on Jan. 1 the YEAR this bill takes effect you are out of luck. You WILL be a government subject from that time forward.
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Shyster you are a pile of crap yourself if you do not start reporting to the 6 people whom watch you what this bill has in store for them.
"Live for yourself...there's no one else more worth living for.
Begging hands and bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"- Rush--Anthem
Oh give me a
July 16, 2009 - 17:25 ET by bigtimerOh give me a break...
Just how dumb does Shyster think everyone is?
Media Matters....you have got to be kidding me!
Talk about pot calling kettle.
Scott...I don't know how you along with others do it, I used to be able to watch msnbc/cnn to keep informed of what the enemy is doing, hearing all in their own words, I haven't been able to stand much of them at all since before the election...still can't.
Heck, at times it's all I can do to read all of their lying tripe, let alone click on a video and listen to them.
Sure hope you are paid well...that's the only way I could do it and stay a happy person. ;-)
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
bt,
July 16, 2009 - 17:36 ET by Chris Norman"Just how dumb does Shyster think everyone is?"
Apparently, he knows his audience.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Good one Chris
July 16, 2009 - 20:04 ET by RukusWon't be long 'til he IS his audience! LOL!
Gary
I want my country back!
Propaganda
July 16, 2009 - 18:12 ET by nkviking75Apparently, the chart is a lie because Republicans put it out, and Drudge and Fox News mindlessly accept it because they're GOP mouthpieces. The trouble is, there isn't a shred of proof that there's anything wrong with the chart. And if any news organization says, "Here's a chart put out by the GOP explaining what's wrong with Obamacare," where's the sin in that?
Media Matters and Shuster are trying to scare people by saying Republicans are trying to scare people.
This isn't a discussion of ideas, it's straight propaganda.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
But What is Wrong With the Chart?
July 16, 2009 - 18:17 ET by sf_strangerThe premise of their complaint is that conservative media never fact check things like this. But neither Shuster or Frisch (or Hall for that matter) ever say what they find wrong with the chart.
Shuster: "And there are clear examples of why the chart was inaccurate."
So their complaint about a lack of fact checking on a document is made without ever providing a single instance where the document is inaccurate. Classic.
How about fact-checking Joe Biden's claims???
July 16, 2009 - 20:09 ET by motherbeltAnd how about fact-checking our Democrat Vice President???
Here's what he said recently in response to criticism from Rep. Cantor that the stimulus wasn't doing much.
...Come see what I see everywhere I go: workers rehired,
factories reopened, cops on the street, teachers in the classroom,
progress toward getting our economy back on the move.
Yeah, Joe, the engines of the economy are just roaring along, aren't they!
Where, exactly, has Joe seen any of these things.. where has he seen workers rehired and factories reopened?
Caterpillar? oh wait...that didn't work out....
And the media NEVER question; they just nod along, or like Chris Matthews, repeat, "Yeah."
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
....Joe it seems is hiding
July 16, 2009 - 20:19 ET by Snappy....Joe it seems is hiding out doing "research" on the possibility of legalizing medical marijuana to try and drum up tax revenue. It is during these clandestine "research" trips that he is seeing all these factories re-hiring, teachers in the classrooms, Hostess twinkie manufacturing and Doritos.........well you get the picture.
Suddenly MSNBC is pretending to be concerned about facts?
July 16, 2009 - 20:05 ET by needle- Relying upon the MSM for your information is like relying upon an embezzler to manage your portfolio.
July 16, 2009 - 19:26 ET by jessieHCan you believe the gall of PMSNBC? They are blaming the GOP & FOX NEWS of doing what they have been doing since before the election. These dumb asses think WE see the chart & believe it. I, in a way, believe it, but I am also checking to see if it is right. But for these idiots to say they check the facts in the news blows my mind!
jH... Heck they make up
July 16, 2009 - 19:35 ET by bigtimerjH...
Heck they make up the news as they go along, with MM as their main guide...Soros anyone?
Plus their daily morning calls from Rahm and pals.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Typical Lie-berals
July 16, 2009 - 19:38 ET by sic721"Due diligence" means reading HuffPo, WaPo, NY Times, Media Matters, MoveOn, Slate, etc. etc. etc.
"The human race divides itself politically into those who want to be controlled, and those who have no such desire."-Robert A. Heinlein
As Does Fox News Relies On MRC To Hunt For Truth About Liberals
July 16, 2009 - 23:02 ET by The7SticksHence the universe is in perfect karmic balance.
Does it seem likely that there will ever be a truce between both sides? I would hope so... Then again, I wouldn't be as entertained as much as I prefer to and would have to spend the rest of my days watching the Transformers movies at the discount theater.
Three bags full !
July 16, 2009 - 23:19 ET by Free StinkerThree bags full !
Fortunately, Shyster isn't
July 17, 2009 - 04:26 ET by RR GOPFortunately, Shyster isn't an elected Democrat official in Washington so he can afford to sit there and doggedly support the Libtard agenda and His Oneness. He doesn't have to worry about upcoming elections.
BTW, wonder when he's up for contract renewal? Is MSNBC happy with dismal ratings? Guess if companies out there are dumb enough to spend money on ads few people see then perhaps it's not really an issue to them.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).