MSNBC's David Shuster Continues to Obsess Over Rove; Questions Manhood

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"1600 Pennsylvania Avenue" host David Shuster continued to obsess over and taunt Karl Rove on Tuesday's program, even taking the fight to Twitter. Shuster, who has named Rove a hypocrite three times so far in his daily "Hypocrisy Watch" segment, appeared gleeful that "Bush's Brain finally did respond via Twitter." The political operative told Shuster, through the social networking site, simply to "wait until the book. You're in there."

Shuster retorted on his Twitter page by sarcastically instructing Rove, "Next time, try defending yourself 'like a man,' - mano y mano as I've repeatedly invited you to do." It's odd that Shuster would expect Rove to come on the MSNBC program, considering that he has heaped nothing but invective on the former Bush aide.

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On Tuesday, Shuster had on David Corn, the bureau chief for the liberal "Mother Jones" magazine to mock Rove with faux possible book titles. (Former McCain aide Tucker Bounds also appeared to give a conservative perspective.) Included in Corn's suggestions were "To Kill a Presidency," "Low Expectations: Why The Bush Presidency Really, Really, Really Was Much Better Than Everyone Says" and "The Guilt Free White House Diet: Telling Fibs to Lose Weight and To Protect Your Abs." Shuster labeled Rove the "ultimate practitioner of dirty politics."

Much of the segment was spent with Shuster again plowing through the details of the Valerie Plame leak case. Of course, he ignored that in fact it was Richard Armitage who leaked the CIA identity of Plame.

Shuster described his "Hypocrisy Watch" segments on the former political operative as examples of his show tracking "Rove's damage to the Bush administration or the country." On the March 6 "Hypocrisy Watch," he savaged Rove for attacking the Robert Gibbs/Rahm Emanuel strategy of going after Rush Limbaugh. An incredulous Shuster complained, "Rove's sudden concerns about the moral high ground are unbelievable. Literally. Karl, you've spent your entire career putting politics ahead of everything else."

On March 9, just three days later, Shuster again derided Rove as a hypocrite. Speaking of critical comments the political operative made about President Obama on Fox News, the MSNBC host fretted, "I appreciate that Karl Rove, who helped sell the Iraq war, is now trying to rehabilitate his reputation by giving commentary on Fox News. But Karl, when you complain about the Obama administration's effort to clean up the mess you and your colleagues created, that's hypocrisy, and it's wrong." For all of Shuster's complaining about nasty politics, he has yet to do a "Hypocrisy Watch" on White House aides Rahm Emanuel or Robert Gibbs.

A transcript of the March 17 segment, which aired at 6:41pm, follows:

6:37pm tease

DAVID SHUSTER: Up next, Karl Rove has been a frequent figure in our hypocrisy watch. Every time we put him there, I ask Karl for an interview or a response. Over the weekend, Bush's Brain finally did respond via Twitter. I'll show it to you and talk about the news in Rove's response.

6:41

SHUSTER: Welcome back to "1600 Pennsylvania Avenue." Every night on this show, as we did earlier in this one, we feature a segment called Hypocrisy Watch. Our most frequent focus has been former Bush adviser Karl Rove. For example, Rove recently criticized the Obama administration for increasing the size of the federal debt, even though Rove and his Bush team colleagues turned record surpluses into record deficits. Anyway, before each segment, I sent Karl a Twitter message, asking him to come on and defend himself. This weekend, I received the following Twitter direct response: "Re 1600. Wait until the book. You're in there." Signed Karl Rove." So Karl Rove is writing a book. It sounds like Rove may try and settle some scores with people who followed the CIA leak case or tracked Rove's damage to the Bush administration or the country. Joining us now is another veteran of the CIA leak case, David Corn, Washington bureau chief for "Mother Jones Magazine." So he is writing a book? Do we have anything to fear?

DAVID CORN (Mother Jones): I don't think you and I do. Maybe the President or the former Vice President Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condi Rice. That's only if he tells the truth. So, they have nothing to fear either. There's a lot that Karl Rove can actually tell us that would illuminate some of the past eight years, about the run-up to the war, what really happened with Katrina, the, the intersection between politics and policy within the George W. Bush White House. The question is, you know, how far will he go in telling us what happened and, of course, in explaining his role in the CIA leak case?

SHUSTER: Well, I have a feeling that the reason myself, you, Chris Matthews, some others may get mentioned in the book has to do with the CIA leak case, and maybe Rove is not so, sort of, happy about the attention that was paid on that. In broad terms, if Karl was going to write a book, in broad terms, about his eight years in the Bush administration, give us some ideas, David, give Karl some ideas on what the title of his book should be.

CORN: Well, because you asked me to do so, I've been thinking to it, not too much, mind you. One title I thought he could use was "To Kill a Presidency," and "How to Also Ruin a Political Party, Two Wars and the Global Economy." Another title that might suit a book he's writing is "Low Expectations: Why The Bush Presidency Really, Really, Really Was Much Better Than Everyone Says." I mean, those are just beginning, starters. If he was writing a book that focused on the leak case, itself, I think this would sell. I actually think- I‘m giving him a big favor here. He would call it "The Guilt Free White House Diet: Telling Fibs to Lose Weight and To Protect Your Abs."

SHUSTER: If he is completely honest about the CIA leak case, wouldn't the key information be obviously the conversation with Bob Novak? What role exactly did you play, Karl, in the effort to smear Joe Wilson and his wife? Joe Wilson being a key administration critic of how the war was sold.

CORN: Well, the important thing about that case, Scott McClellan came out, as he's written about in his book, and talked about on this show and others, and he said Karl Rove told me directly that he was not involved in leaking Valerie Plame Wilson's name to Bob Novak. McClellan at the time said that publicly, came out there. Then, when it turned out that Karl Rove was involved, neither McClellan nor Rove would explain it. Of course, we know he was the second source for Bob Novak for that particular column. And to this date, Karl Rove has never really explained what his role was, but also why he allowed Scott McClellan to come out and say something he knew, Karl Rove, wasn't true, and whether he had also lied or, you know, spoken falsely to George W. Bush about his role in this. So none of that has ever been explained.

SHUSTER: My theory all along has been that Karl was motivated by the 2004 election. If you look at the sequence of events, summer of 2003, they figured, you know what, let's put this out there, try to put it out. If the reporters ever have to testify, by the time that happens, it will be 2005, beyond the election. But, in any case, there is a lot of other stuff that could be intriguing in a Karl Rove book. And, so, let's bring in our panel now, Ed Schultz, Tucker Bounds. Tucker, I know you're dying from David Corn's titles. First of all, one of the other key questions in all of this is the relationship between President Bush and Vice President Cheney. Karl Rove would be the best witness there is, so wouldn't that be the key that everybody wants to-

TUCKER BOUNDS (Former John McCain 2008 aide): It's hard to say if you would be the best witness there is. But what he would be the best witness is politics. This is a larger question, which is, you know, a title of the book I could see is "The Cloning of Karl Rove, the David Axelrod Story." The truth of the matter is these guys work in politics. And politics provides access to everyday Americans for the issues and the government that goes on here in Washington, D.C. People get a little bit weak in the stomach when they see guys that are very good with political maneuvers, political tactics, that are very good at performing and bringing on public opinion and the electorate to win elections. David Axelrod did a genius job of it this last election.

SHUSTER: Tucker, there's a big difference between David Axelrod and Karl Rove. Just the other day-

BOUNDS: I could argue against-

CORN: Wait a second. That‘s an interesting point you raise. But the thing is, Karl Rove then after doing that politically, moved into the White House. So the question I have is- with David Axelrod, with all these guys, the question becomes, what happens with the intersection of politics and policy? And if you look at something like the run-up to the war in Iraq, were there political concerns? Was there political attempt to exploit 9/11? All these things which we have seen evidence of, and which you and I probably disagree on, but those are things that Karl Rove could illuminate greatly, were he to write a truthful book.

SHUSTER: The other thing is, if Karl Rove were sitting where Ed Schultz were right now, I would want to say, you know what, Karl, you decry the Axelrod/Emanuel tactics as dirty old politics we all grew to dislike in the 1990s. But in the 1990s, there was Karl Rove, the ultimate practitioner of dirty politics, who helped George W. Bush get elected governor of Texas, who essentially decided- he put out some really nasty stuff in an Alabama supreme court election in the 1990s. So for him to now say, we didn't like that stuff, when we all know he did it, that‘s hypocrisy, which is why we focus on Karl Rove so much. Ed?

ED SCHULTZ (Liberal radio host): I think you can go to your old buddy John McCain there, Tucker, and find out a few things about the Bush tactics and Karl Rove. If you go back to South Carolina in 2000. Here‘s what Karl Rove is going to be remembered for by the American people: the American people are used to dirty politics and underhanded tricks and such stuff. When Bush was re-elected in ‘04, the first thing he did was go out on the road and try to privatize Social Security. That was a hood wink. All along, he was attacking the judiciary. And it was Karl Rove, with his underhanded tactics, that went after the firing of those eight U.S. attorneys. The judiciary is sacred territory to all Americans. And I believe that's what he's going to be remembered for. I guarantee you the American people do want to see prosecution.

BOUNDS: It's the sacred power of the president of the United States to dismiss U.S. attorneys, in fact, guarded by the Constitution. So it's a political appointment, for it to be a political fire. I mean, the U.S. attorney thing is beyond-

CORN: Tucker's right. It is a political appointment. The President has full discretion. But, yes, if they don‘t tell the truth about why they‘re firing people or they give BS reasons, then it‘s a political issue they can be held accountable for.

SCHULTZ: You're not endorsing-

SHUSTER: Here's the bottom line. Here‘s the bottom line, Karl Rove, if you don‘t want to wait for the book to come out, if you want to respond to "Hypocrisy Watch" every time we find it, whenever you say it or broadcast it, you're always welcome to have a seat right there where Ed is on this show. And, even if you want to wait until the book comes out and you want to review whatever you want to write in there about the CIA leak case, we'd be happy to have you.

—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.


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Ahhh... they never disappoint

I thought you had to be *tolerant* of *any and all* lifestyles to be a liberal. So, WHY then is he demeaing Rove using something he's SWORN to accept and promote?

"Next time, try defending

"Next time, try defending yourself 'like a man,' - mano y mano as I've repeatedly invited you to do."

 

You got to be kidding me! Shuster look like the kid that hides behind the bigger kid screaming "yeah, yeah I'll take you all on I ain't scared!" Shuster's a punk.

I'd like to see that one - Shussie-boy wouldn't know

what hit him - Karl has more intelligence in his little finger than Shuster could muster in a lifetime! 

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams

If this twit was confronted he would do his version of Obama..

Uh, uh, uh, you see now, uh what I really meant, uh, I just wanted you to know to, uh, well I'll let my press secretary get back to you on that.

Shuster is privately praying

That Rove wont accepts his invitation. 

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

wow

this guy seriously has a segment called "Hypocrisy Watch"?

is there a mirror on his desk?

By the by Mr. Shuster you're off talking point man.  Back to the AIG outrage.  C'mon!

Like a man

I sent Shuster my residential address and phone number. I told him that Mr. Rove was busy and that I would be substituting for him in this "Defending yourself like a man"; my place or yours. I told him to include Olbermann and Matthews if he liked and it would be about even.

I asked that the only man in that place, Mr. Maddow, not be included.

I doubt that he will take me up on my offer 

 

I would pay good money to see that happen

Hell I would pay good money to be a part of it!

Shyster, the sniveling Marxist mouthpiece and posterboy...

...for the Organizer and his plan to destroy what is left of our free-market economy, is the last person on the entire planet who should be questioning anyone else's manhood.

As for "Hypocrisy Watch," every time you turn it on, you get to watch a hypocrite. 

Its the exact same hypocrite every segment, too.

-Dave

This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.

schuster clearly suffers

schuster clearly suffers from penis envy

who's worst prez ever now?!!

ROFLMAO...

David Shuster questioning someone else's manhood?  That's irony to the nth degree.  What a dipstick.

Beat me to it...

I seen the title of the blog and I was going to comment, but you beat me to it.

2010: A GOP Hill

Shuster will now and

Shuster will now and forever be known as a linguistic midget who doesn't understand the very phrases he chooses to employ.

The phrase he thinks he wants is "mano a mano", and it means "hand to hand" (as in combat), not "man to man" as Shuster implies. The fact that he says "mano y mano" (hand AND hand) further indicates his lack of familiarity with the very words he spews.

Nitwit.

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

Maybe Davie really just wants 'hands & more hands' ;-)

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams

OPIE SHUSTER

For a guy who carries the masculine countenance of my 79 year old grandmother, little Davie Shuster should not be allowed to questions anyones manhood.

Fired Attorneys

I certain these guys will get around to asking Clinton why he fired attorneys.

Comedy

David Schuster questioning someone's manhood!! Sometimes comedy writes itself doesn't it? What's next, Chrissie challenging Rove to a duel? Stephie questioning whether Rove's children are really his? Anderson Cooper questioning Rove's heterosexuality?

Anybody remember the scene

Anybody remember the scene in "Spaceballs" where Dark Helmet gets caught playing with his action figures?

This is Shyster doing the same thing in his little courtroom diorama he made out of cereal boxes.

"Karl Rove would be the best witness there is, so I'm putting you in the miniature witness stand here, Karl."

Don't ever forget that

Don't ever forget that Shuster falsely alleged on one of MSDNC's unwatched leftist freakshows that "Karl Rove will in fact be indicted".  Predictably, when speaking of Rove, Shuster failed to remind anyone of that fact.

Will the real Rachel stand up

Everybody is wrong. What actually happened; Rachel Maddow was hired to do two daily shows. On her earlier show she’s required to wear a short wig and shave.

Relevance

David Shuster; MSNBC; Leprechauns;

of these 3 things, what has been seen more?

 

President Obama is nothing more than a empty suit; a Hollywood
style special effects smoke and mirrors show that has shown itself to
be a total fraud.
 

WAKE UP AMERICA! SAVE OUR CONSTITUTION! 

Strange that someone who is

Strange that someone who is less of a man than Katie Couric would question the manhood of anyone else...much less his intellectual and moral superior, Karl Rove.  But as long as he keeps the Goebels routine going by repeating his lies about Plamegate over and over and over again, he may eventually believe them himself.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

I am sorry. I wish I could

I am sorry. I wish I could take this more seriously, but how can I take seriously a sentence that contains "take the fight" and "Twitter"?

 

Don't mess with Shuster

The Schmuckster is a real tough guy.  Remember when he beat up Chelsea Clinton?  SHE sure learned her lesson.

Oh wait, never mind. 

Girlie-Boy

This clown is a vagina.For him to question someone's manhood is the Ultimate Hypocricy.

the struggler, watch that...

...We all got 'here' via a womb and by entry a vagina. Don't usin' the golden 'gina to 'dis the opposition.

-AND SO HELP ME GOD I hate that 'It's good to be fast blackberry' commercial.

~Bad strug

Naughty strug.

*mother holds strug down while chose washes his mouth with soap*

;-)

 

 

Hope and Change= Despair and Socialism

David who?

David who?

I can't take anymore of

I can't take anymore of Shuster.

Period.

Schuster looks like an UGLY PEEWEE HERMAN

schuster is a little Jewish weasel.  Hillery Clinton smacked him down when he got suspended for his remark about Chelsey.  I'm sure Rove is quaking in his boots.  No one listens to schuster.

 

The Government is the Enemy 

Mano y mano ay Davey?

I wouldn't turn my back on McGreavy Lips Shuster.

Bush is no longer prez

memo to Dave:  Obama is president now.  Try to focus.

That's rich

David "Mr. Lispy" Shuster questions someone else's manhood? This guy makes Bathtub Boy look macho.

Arminus... Although I'm

Arminus...

Although I'm laughing...I still can't picture Keithy as macho.

A man on Twitter?

Come on Shuster, you pussy. What man degrades himself enough to be caught dead on f#ckin' twitter?