Veteran Watergate journalist Carl Bernstein appeared on Monday's "Morning Joe" to highlight the "masterful" leadership of Barack Obama in passing a stimulus bill and also to laud Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for her dedication to service. Challenged by MSNBC analyst Pat Buchanan over how much impact Hillary Clinton would actually have as secretary of state, Bernstein, author of the Hillary bio "A Woman in Charge," enthused, "You know, she is somebody who really believes in service. Both Clintons do. Whatever cynicism we might have about the Clintons, she believes in service."
He also asserted that celebrity is important on the world stage and cooed, "And nobody is more celebrated. Nobody is more famous than Hillary Clinton. Nobody can have more effect abroad." Earlier in the segment, the former Washington Post journalist applauded Barack Obama for passing his stimulus bill in a way that maneuvered around a "dysfunctional" Congress. "...The reason Barack Obama is showing such masterful- and I think we can use that word- leadership so far is that he's in the process of solving the problem of the U.S. Congress, the fact that it is a largely dysfunctional institution," he explained.
Host Joe Scarborough discussed with Bernstein the issue of how difficult it is to get things done in Congress. The author turned the question around on Scarborough, a former House member, and praised journalism as the place to get things done: "Look, what do you like better? You like better being on the air here or do you like being in the United States Congress? You can really do something and affect the way people think on the air." Of course, one would have to make the point that, in regards to Obama, the President has a large majority in the Senate. So, how is it "masterful" to pass a bill in that environment?
A partial transcript of the February 16 segment, which aired at 8:38am, follows:
JOE SCARBOROUGH: Let's bring in right now Carl Bernstein. He is the author of "A Woman in Charge: The Life of Hillary Rodham Clinton." Carl, how do you think Hillary Clinton is going to fit in as secretary of state in the new Obama administration?
CARL BERNSTEIN: Pretty well. She knows who the president of the United States is. And happily for her, she recognizes she's out of the United States Senate. I think the most significant thing that I can say about that shot [onscreen video of Hillary coming off the tarmac in Japan] is that both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama understood the futility of being a member of the United States Congress. Everything we have been hearing this morning on this broadcast indicates that the reason Barack Obama is showing such masterful- and I think we can use that word- leadership so far is that he's in the process of solving the problem of the U.S. Congress, the fact that it is a largely dysfunctional institution. That he's got to work around it to get this economic program moving and through. That it is just bedeviled by partisan gridlock. That it runs behind the real problems of the United States. And as his biggest task is to move the country and that's what he is doing and part of that is putting Hillary Clinton in that job. She didn't want to be a part of that institution anymore. John McCain didn't want to be a part of that institution anymore. 'Cause they all recognized it does not work.
JOE SCARBOROUGH: Carl, you know, it wasn't so long ago that being a United States senator was the plumb job in Washington, D.C. Run every six years. It was called the world's most exclusive club. But, now like you said, I've heard that Barack Obama was tired of the institution after being there for a couple of weeks. Hillary Clinton couldn't stand it.
BERNSTEIN: That's just the point.
SCARBOROUGH: Judd Gregg was willing to become secretary- if you'd asked a senator 20 years ago to quit his Senate seat to be secretary of Commerce, he would have laughed. You talk to any governor who becomes a senator, they hate their life. Jeb Bush didn't want to run for United States Senate, despite the fact he can walk into the position. Why has that job been so degraded, apparently, over the past decade?
BERNSTEIN: Because it no longer- Congress of the United States and -- I would turn to ask you the same question. Look, what do you like better? You like better being on the air here or do you like being in the United States Congress? You can really do something and affect the way people think on the air. You really can't do very much as one member of the United States Congress unless you learn something there that I don't know about.
8:43am
PAT BUCHANAN: All, right, Carl. Let me get back to you, the subject of your book, Hillary Clinton. She's is secretary of state. But, Holbrook has got the Afghanistan/Pakistan franchise. Mitchell has got Israel/Palestine. Geithner has got China. He's already knocking 'em for manipulating their currency. You hear, Dennis Ross may get Iran. The general sees the President everyday. Is she really going to be an architect to foreign policy or just a salesperson?
BERNSTEIN: Neither. I think that the architect of foreign policy is going to be Barack Obama. I think that Jones is next to the President of the United States. He sits next to him in the offices of the National Security Council. I think that Hillary Clinton is his executive officer. And I think she is relishing the opportunity. You know, she is somebody who really believes in service. Both Clintons do. Whatever cynicism we might have about the Clintons, she believes in service. It is a great opportunity for her to serve the country. She is a very good- can be a very good executive officer. She gets a good grasp of these concepts. George Mitchell and Holbrook are terrific appointments in terms of terribly complex problems. They are going to report to her. It is not just about making foreign policy. It is about making it work. And I think she's- she is really in a position there to help make it work. And, also, look, part of diplomacy is working on the world stage. And it involves celebrity today. And nobody is more celebrated, nobody is more famous than Hillary Clinton, nobody can have more effect abroad. Just looking in Asia now, on this trip, on the attention she is getting, is quite remarkable.
—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.




















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LEADERSHIP from the LEFT?!?!? HAAAAHAHAHAHA!
February 16, 2009 - 13:25 ET by KJ_sezI guess if leadership consist of threats, abuses of power, browbeating, and ignoring reality, and having a "do as I say, not as I do" mentality, then they're doing a great job. A shame that that form of leadership leads down a six-foot hole in the ground when implemented on a national level.
Bernstein is nuts. Hillary is over there pandering to the
February 16, 2009 - 13:31 ET by thebutlerdiditJapanese about climate change crap. She said N.Korea had to dismantle their satellite program, and this morning they announced that in NK they are going to continue their "space exploration" plan, because they have a right to have it. It is a missle, everyone know's it's a missle, but we are supposed to talk them into disbanding the program with monetary incentives. What money? We're broke. I guess that is one of those things we can just print some more money for.
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
What leadership ?
February 16, 2009 - 13:35 ET by rightwingchefLeadership? , are these guy's blind or just stupid. B.Hussein didn't show leadership he showed Chicago thuggery. His thoughts about foriegn policies are from the book of Alinsky, not his own . Barry , and his minions answer only to the left wing fringe of a corrupt party.Are these idiots seeing something that I do not? Looks like run and hide is the game of choice, where is the leadership???
Leadership from a guy who
February 16, 2009 - 13:37 ET by R D HelmLeadership from a guy who is being led around by the nose by Pelosi and Reid?
Puhleeeeeeaze!
LOL-Bernstein seriously needs to kick that crack habbit. :-^)
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
Carl, You're kidding right?
February 16, 2009 - 14:03 ET by IamTinmanCarl, You are either seriously over or under Medicated. Hillary isn't all that, and Barack lost three times more dem votes than gop ones gained on the stimulus bill .
Any serious journalist would announce a very weak performance by Obama even with the deck stacked in his favor.
Without opposition
February 16, 2009 - 13:53 ET by KC MulvilleSure, who wants to be contradicted? We'd all rather just spew out our arguments without fear that anyone can disagree with us. Thus, Olbermann.
Doesn't that say volumes about what he thinks he can do in the media? It says that he wants to present his point of view, without having to deal with criticism or objections. And that's what the media has become. It isn't an open forum where participants offer their ideas for others to consider. Instead, it's a closed forum where media tyrants impose their ideas, and try to prevent anyone from considering the ideas before they're imposed.
If you open your mouth in public, be prepared to defend yourself. I'll happily accept criticism, and entertain contrary arguments, even at the risk of being proved wrong. Guess what? That's the only way to improve. That's what debate is all about. You always risk being contradicted. In my case, when someone smacks me down, I cope with the embarrassment by waiting until people have forgotten, then I use their arguments as if they were my own. That's called learning. It works for me.
I guess
February 16, 2009 - 13:55 ET by sdanmaybe we need to be "following the money" around Bernstein.
Follow up Q to Carl Bernstein
February 16, 2009 - 14:35 ET by Gary HallFollow up Q to Carl Bernstein. Re:
Hmmmm
February 16, 2009 - 15:32 ET by StarAZLet me guess--his next book is on Junior.
What happened to
February 16, 2009 - 15:32 ET by RR GOPWhat happened to Bernstein's journalistic cajones?
Or should I simply infer that if Nixon were a Democrat All The President's Men would have never existed in any form?
One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
Nixon a democratic
February 16, 2009 - 16:13 ET by slickwillie2001If Nixon were a democratic, then he would have been a Kennedy and it would have been business as usual. But in fact Nixon was far less a criminal than JFK.
The first time I ever heard
February 16, 2009 - 17:12 ET by rockyracoonThe first time I ever heard the term, "red diaper doper baby," was while listening to Michael Savage. Bernstein is the paragon of that label.
I actually posted here a few weeks back
February 16, 2009 - 18:05 ET by thebutlerdiditthat I thought Carl acted like he had Alzheimer's or some type of Dementia. I read a few columns he wrote last Fall, and they didn't make much sense. Of course, being a good jouro and being in the right place, are two different things. Who ever said he and Woodward were really that great? I think they lucked up, and made their career.
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
I actually posted here a few weeks back
February 16, 2009 - 18:05 ET by thebutlerdiditthat I thought Carl acted like he had Alzheimer's or some type of Dementia. I read a few columns he wrote last Fall, and they didn't make much sense. Of course, being a good jouro and being in the right place, are two different things. Who ever said he and Woodward were really that great? I think they lucked up, and made their career.
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
Woodstein overrated
February 16, 2009 - 18:35 ET by slickwillie2001BOTH Woodward and Bernstein are highly overrated. They have been coasting on the Watergate story for thirty years, after they were talked through it by one or several insiders. Woodward should have been kicked out of established journalism for his made-up interviews with William Casey. Had they attacked a democratic President rather than Nixon, you would not know their names today. Instead they are idols of all democratics and can do no wrong.
Service?
February 16, 2009 - 18:33 ET by Hoosier DaddyAt least Bill believes in BEING serviced!
President Handout is
February 16, 2009 - 20:24 ET by semolina_filcherPresident Handout is spending the holiday selling the generational theft package to the American people, after channeling the spirits of the other dead presidents with whom he is enamored, namely, FDR, Lincoln, JFK, and Carter (no wait, Jimmy Sucker ain't gone yet).
Tuesday, President Giveaway signs the package into law. Thereby starts the United States' descent into "irrelevance". What a country!
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Bernstein is certifiably crazy......
February 16, 2009 - 20:55 ET by sbourgI'm waiting for the first hard-core leftist to come to his/her senses and declare: "You know, Obama and Pelosi are behaving like socialists, and it's killing our chance of recovery." Bernstein's a 100% lunatic for saying Obama's a masterful leader for getting the dysfunctional Congress to pass the "Recovery" act. Is he for real? I think the House's "spending" committee had an absolute blast inking the bill, and Obama and Pelosi knows that govt workers, all 25 million of them, were just bought out for the Nov10 mid-terms. "Mission Accomplished" for the Dems. But they're destroying our private sector!!