Does the media treat hypocrites of differing political preferences similarly? The evidence would suggest not. When noted Christian televangelist Jim Bakker was found to have committed adultery and mail fraud back in 1986, the national media were beside themselves with glee, running hundreds of stories about Bakker's hypocrisy. The same pattern repeated itself with other Christian evangelists, including George W. Bush supporter Ted Haggard in 2006, a case that Wikipedia admits "may have affected voting patterns in the 2006 elections". The media made sure to feature the haggard case as a front-page story during the run-up[ to the election, probably hoping (correctly as it turned out) that it would help the Democrats take control of Congress. However, the shoe is now on the other foot.
Famed left-wing radio personality Bernie Ward of San Francisco, a former priest who had one of the loudest and most consistently anti-George W. Bush voices in the entire nation, was found guilty of possessing and distributing child pornography on Friday and will serve at least five years in prison. ward tried to argue that he was "doing research" on child pornography, but as the San Francisco Chronicle reported:
His hopes of maintaining a defense based on a constitutional right to research taboo subjects appeared to be weakened further when police in Oakdale (Stanislaus County) released transcripts in February of a series of online sex chats between Ward and a dominatrix in December 2004 and January 2005. The transcripts quote Ward as fantasizing about naked children with no apparent reference to any subject he was researching. Police said he had sent photos to the woman that showed children engaged in sexual activity.
To their credit, the Chronicle reported the affair on Page A-1 of the Friday edition, and they have actually done a fairly good job of following the case throughout, though they did give much more time to Ward's law3yer to argue for his client's innocence than they gave to the prosecutors- Ward's lawyer is quoted or paraphrased a number of times; the prosecutors not at all. My question is simple- Ward has been a leading anti Iraq and anti-George W. Bush voice, who has been found to be as flawed as any of the more conservative ministers who preceded him in scandal. Will the national media treat him the same? Ward has preached to an audience in the same manner, though from a different viewpoint, as did Bakker, Falwell, etc. If the media is truly objective, they will cover this fall from grace as assiduously as they did with Bakker, Haggard and the others they have gleefully observed succumb to their flaws. Thus, I did a search for 'Bernie Ward' on CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox. MSNBC< CBS and CNN had nothing on the scandal. ABC ran a single story that presented Ward as a victim who had "run afoul" of the government laws. Isn't that the same as breaking the law? ABC seems not to know the difference when it concerns liberals. Meanwhile, the supposedly conservative Fox ran a brief report of Ward's guilty plea, not siding with either party. It seems that only Fox and ABC felt this qualified as news, and ABC did their best to present Ward as a victim, not the criminal that he has admitted he is. So as much as I would like to believe that this will be front-page news in the national media, I won't hold my breath. Cross-posted on StoneHeads.




















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Just remember how much
May 12, 2008 - 20:39 ET by gopsteveJust remember how much coverage Rush got for far, far less charges...
gopSteve... You beat me
May 12, 2008 - 21:11 ET by bigtimergopSteve...
You beat me to it.
Can you imagine if this was Hannity, Ingraham, Beck, Boortz...let alone Rush, that goes without saying...the glee and 24 hour reporting would be non-stop.
I know full well who Bernie is..he has been on CNN forever with his leftist views.
Nope..no bias or hypocrisy here.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
MSM report liberal misdeads is a rhetorical question
May 12, 2008 - 21:29 ET by BodiniAsking whether the MSM will report liberal misdeads is like asking ... "Do wild bears _ _ _ _ in the woods?" All us big-boys already know the answer.
Maybe O'Reilly will add this to his list of pedophiles' news stories or maybe Rush will point it out during tomorrow's show!
ABC news
May 12, 2008 - 21:18 ET by jaywlABC leaves the reader with an uplifting close about how "inspirational" this pedophile is. I had hope that ABC would at least try to be more fair in its treatment of social and political news. There have been some encouraging moments, but trash like this piece destroys all such hope.
Never heard of this guy.
May 12, 2008 - 21:25 ET by balboaNever heard of this guy.
That ok Bal
May 12, 2008 - 21:32 ET by well99I never heard of Ted Haggard till he got in trouble.
I never heard of Ted
May 13, 2008 - 07:40 ET by NewsbusterbrownI never heard of Ted Haggard till he got in trouble.
I had never heard of him either.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Probably not
May 13, 2008 - 12:55 ET by ToddonCapeCodThe meida probably won't report on Ward's charges for several reasons:
1. He's anti-Bush, and anti-war, and being that way themselves, that's all the media would prefer to reveal about him
2. He's a liberal. He doesn't preach against such things anyway. In fact, his followers and supporters are more likely to commit these acts themselves and see nothing wrong with it, so why make a big deal out of it.
Pedophilia is perfectly acceptable for Leftists and Liberals
May 12, 2008 - 21:49 ET by needleBernie Ward’s possessing and distributing child pornography is not news as far as the MSM is concerned, and I very much doubt that it will receive any significant attention in the MSM. If you are a leftist or liberal, pedophilia is perfectly acceptable but one should be discreet about practicing pedophilia (sort of like picking one’s nose). This is not to say that pedophilia is not news categorically. In this “post modern” world morality, at least among Leftist and Liberals, who control the MSM, is relative, not absolute. Accordingly adultery, sodomy, pedophilia, and essentially all manner of fornication are acceptable among Leftist and liberals, but not among Republicans or conservatives. Therefore these are not sins as far as Leftist and liberals are concerned – though I understand that some impure Leftists and liberals do not like it when their spouse engages in some of these practices on the side – and thus not newsworthy. However, where Republicans and conservatives are involved, these traditionally aberrant sexual practices are sins and thus are newsworthy.
This is all very interesting, because in this day and age, when liberals are always on the lookout for violators of [their] Politically Correctness, one of the primary infractions is discrimination. But OMG, why lookie there! When you begin to examine the moral filters of Leftist and Liberals, you stumble upon a whole world of discrimination (and hypocrisy).
By the way, how can I say that pedophilia is perfectly acceptable for Leftists and Liberals? Because if they were outraged, we would hear about it, as we always do when they are outraged. But do not count on it in Bernie Ward’s case.
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
"Pedophilia is perfectly
May 12, 2008 - 21:53 ET by balboa"Pedophilia is perfectly acceptable for Leftists and Liberals."
Strong opening, kiddo. Don't let down now.
Balboa...
May 12, 2008 - 22:03 ET by MightyMouthHe's not referring to you specifically. But you must understand that "liberals" in general would more easily allow such behavior. When you think about it, liberals aren't the most ardent supporters of baby's (unborn though they may be) rights. I know it makes total sense to you that a baby in the womb is not "really" a baby, even though people buy clothes, decorate rooms, give names to, have baby showers for "IT".
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
That makes no sense: If
May 12, 2008 - 22:07 ET by balboaThat makes no sense: If you're pro-choice, you're more likely to be OK with pedophilia?
Sickos would be more likely to allow pedophilia. It's disgusting to me to try and politicize it as a liberal thing.
Well how come BOR is
May 12, 2008 - 22:16 ET by MightyMouthWell how come BOR is demonized by liberal Vermont and about a handful other states for being hard on Pedos? I am just pointing out where this starts from. Human life is cheap for liberals. I know you guys like to pretend you are the "defenders of life." But you can't even understand the most helpless of lives. Where would you be Amigo if your Parents were modern day liberals? Please ask me for more examples of how liberals think life is cheap.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Human life is cheap for
May 12, 2008 - 22:19 ET by balboaHuman life is cheap for liberals? OK, I'm done. It's been fun.
Buh-bye.
PROVE ME WRONG!
May 12, 2008 - 22:33 ET by MightyMouthRun if you must. But you must admit liberals just have to make everyting right, everything perfect. You will never accept that the world is not perfect no matter what you do. The best thing you can do is to empower people to be self sufficiant and strong and not depend on anyone but themselves. And that includes the gooberment!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM...O'Reilly is criticized
May 12, 2008 - 22:39 ET by JerMM...O'Reilly is criticized not because he is tough on pedophilia--we all should be--but because those who don't adopt the specfic punitive legislation he demands are demonized by him as politicians who would rather protect pedophiles than the well-being of our children.
Jer
So jer..
May 12, 2008 - 22:51 ET by MightyMouthYou have a problem with demonization of pedophiles? What would you call them?.. slightly sick?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM, I think pedophiles are
May 12, 2008 - 23:08 ET by JerMM, I think pedophiles are generally very sick, and ordinarily I would be reluctant to demonize those who are so psychologically disturbed...but the harm they inflict on the young and the innocent is so profound, that I am inclined to make an exception in their case and demonize their behavior.
But I'm confused why you would even be asking me the question.
Jer
Well jer...
May 12, 2008 - 23:16 ET by MightyMouthWho needs more "help", the child or the molester? In your opinion.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM...Do you think I'm
May 12, 2008 - 23:26 ET by JerMM...Do you think I'm "soft" on pedophilia? If so, you are sadly mistaken.
But to answer your question the best I can....I think our children need protection against potential predators. Those who are unfortunately molested need continuing treatment and therapy. We also need to keep searching for strategies to make positive changes in the sexual attitudes and behavior of molestors--both during their incarceration and after their eventual release [plus continued monitoring].
Jer
Jer...
May 12, 2008 - 23:38 ET by MightyMouthPlease check recidivsm rates. And then Imagine you have a child. I have two and 3 grandchildren. Should I care one lick about a proven pedophile or my children and grandchildren? I look at it this way: (and you may want to look away) If I would have caught him molesting my child or grandchild, I would gouge out his eyes. But that's just me, you might call the cops.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM...I am familiar with the
May 13, 2008 - 00:04 ET by JerMM...I am familiar with the high recidivism rates for pedophiles. And I do have a child. If someone molested my child, I would like to personally cut the perpetrator into a thousand pieces, but you are right...I would probably call the cops.
Are you proposing capital punishment or life without parole for an 18 year old, first offender pedophile? I don't know of anyone in this country demanding that--even by those who are in favor of the most draconian penalties being enforced against molestors. Consequently, that first offender will be released back into society some day, and if we had simply locked him up and then forgotten about him, he will probably victimize another child.
Jer
Life is tuff..
May 13, 2008 - 00:15 ET by MightyMouthYou break the law, you pay the price, I don't care if you are 18 years old. You kill you die, you rape you suffer, IMO you rape or kill a child you forefit your life. No harsher than 98% of the world. Only the 1-2% of the worlds liberal minds disagree.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Interesting, MM...
May 13, 2008 - 00:36 ET by JerAnd what penalty would you impose on a Catholic priest for a single act of fondling an altar boy? Or a Methodist Sunday School teacher doing likewise to one of his young students? Or a Scoutmaster, high school football coach, etc.
Lethal injection? life without parole? 40 years to life?
Sorry Amigo..
May 12, 2008 - 22:47 ET by MightyMouthI can't let this go tonight...
Liberals make us leave (and lose Vietnam). 2-3 million die.
Liberals insist on the evils of DDT: 30 -40 million die.
Liberals insist on making food into fuel: food Crisis world wide, how many will die? Time will tell.
Please tell me when have liberals made one decisive decision that have caused more people to live than die?
Just tell me please how many liberals have saved lives in this world?
Just admit it, you guys should leave the heavy lifting to the conservatives who know what and how to lift!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM
May 12, 2008 - 22:49 ET byNeville Chamberlain brought "peace in our time" thats gotta count for something. Oh yeah 45 million dead
“i am the quixotic botg and i approved this message”
btog
May 12, 2008 - 23:06 ET by MightyMouthWe always hear about "learning from our mistakes". This precept is being lost in our own re-written history by the educational system. Suppose that someday our children are told that WWII was just a foonote in history. Didn't really mean much, the 45 mil will soon be written out, down to a page or two. The war in Iraq and the "failed" Bush adminstration will cover pages of the text books. When in truth the two struggles pale in comparison in lose of live and global significance.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM
May 12, 2008 - 23:11 ET byit depends on which fits the agenda of the reporter
“i am the quixotic botg and i approved this message”
life cheap to liberals? why yes
May 12, 2008 - 22:44 ET bywell certainly for the pro abortion crowd
life of a baby is about $500
“i am the quixotic botg and i approved this message”
botg... You are so
May 12, 2008 - 22:48 ET by bigtimerbotg...
You are so right... heartbreaking too.
isn't it "Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Needle
May 12, 2008 - 22:04 ET by well99I not going to stand up for the msm.They dont deserve it.Still to claim all liberals find it is acceptable isnt right.You cant lump them all together.Do you honestly believe that?Can you tell me all the liberals you know that none wouldnt be outraged by acts of a pediphile?I know people that are liberal and they would be as furious as I am.Only thing worst than a pediphile is a terrorist on my s list.
The voice of reason. Thank
May 12, 2008 - 22:09 ET by balboaThe voice of reason. Thank you.
Bal
May 12, 2008 - 22:18 ET by well99Me?Thats scary.I dont know anyone no matter politics,race or other stuff that doesnt get ballistic when they hear about kids being abused by pedphiles.
It's not the first time well99
May 12, 2008 - 22:22 ET by JerIt's not the first time well99 has been the voice of reason. I just hope we're not getting him in trouble by pointing that out.
Jer
Jer
May 12, 2008 - 22:43 ET by well99There are alot of folks here with reason.We all generalize things sometimes.
well99...I agree with both
May 12, 2008 - 23:13 ET by Jerwell99...I agree with both statements.
Jer
Oh good...
May 12, 2008 - 22:21 ET by MightyMouthSo then you think one act of Pedophilia means you should be put away for life? Or is there hope? Can a Pedophile be "cured", and BTW should he?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM
May 12, 2008 - 22:26 ET by well99If your asking me it should be life.The chances of change are slim to none.Since they have ruined the childs life they should lose their freedom for the rest of theirs.
I think we agree on this..
May 12, 2008 - 22:31 ET by MightyMouthsorry if my post seemed an attack, it was not meant to be. :-)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM
May 12, 2008 - 22:41 ET by well99I didnt take it as that.I dont agree with you on all libs or the majority of them.As far as judges go they should be prosecuted and put in general population.Giving probation for a child being molested should be criminal.
on the fence
May 12, 2008 - 22:32 ET by candanceOn the one side I believe in forgiveness and second chances, but on the other the stats really back it up that so few of these people actually change.
It's a tough issue.
My sentiments exactly, candance.
May 12, 2008 - 22:41 ET by JerMy sentiments exactly, candance.
Jer
You two realize...
May 13, 2008 - 00:09 ET by MightyMouthThat the ones you give a second chance to... make you the next victim? Evil is Evil. Once an man has done evil he will do it again if he needs to. And an Evil man needs to. Do you really think you can change human behavior? It has nothing to do with "second chances". That person is always suspect...
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
we're all evil - no better
May 13, 2008 - 14:33 ET by TruthMongerwe're all evil - no better or worse than peds
but behavior can improve, people can heal - as Jesus and prison ministry has demonstrated
this has more to do with fornication and consensual activities - the only way to have proper sexual relations is within marriage - age really has little do to with it - there isn't much about age and marriage in the Bible, anyway...
It may get some
May 12, 2008 - 22:00 ET by fitzfongIt may get some coverage...but I imagine much of the media will highlight the fact that Ward is an ex-Priest and ignore that he's a left-wing lightning rod on talk radio.
Priest!
May 12, 2008 - 23:43 ET by jaywlAha! I knew there was some reason for this man to have his, ah..ah..problem. The new headlines will be "Ex-Priest convicted of sex crimes. Pope has no comment. Bush refuses request for federal probe. Pedophile priest has connection to Bush!" I can't see how the MSM has missed all this, maybe tomorrow!
The connection between the two--number of letters in name. Well.
If you go to enough
May 12, 2008 - 23:48 ET by mlongIf you go to enough Left-wing sites and the subject of Rush Limbaugh comes up...it won't be too long before some commentators will start throwing phony charges that Rush is involved in child sex in Thailand or something like that..but here you have a real Radio personality involved in that crap and you don't hear a peep out of them outside of trying to suggest it's because he's a former Priest and downplay him being a Liberal.
"How do you know when Hillary Clinton is lying?".."When She opens her mouth to talk."Neal Boort
The media faces a dilemma.
May 13, 2008 - 01:02 ET by mostlymoderateThe media faces a dilemma. On one hand they ache to report this because he "used to be a priest". However, because he is a left-wing radio host they simply can't report the story.
I've heard Ward
May 13, 2008 - 01:44 ET by harry flashmanIf any of you have ever heard Ward's show (diatribe, rant, harangue) you would have no problem believing the worst.
I'd catch him occasionally when I lived in Silicon Valley and lost a couple of Blaupunks(?) bashed into my dashboard.
Of course, this is the land of Boxer, Eshoo, Pelosi, Migden, Dellums, Feinstein, Newsome, Alioto, Berkeley etc. They loved him.
The guy left a slime trail behind him wherever he went.
Life at Corocran or Folsom are wa-a-a-ay too good for this despicable degenerate. Well, maybe not - not if he was released into the general pop - there is a certain kind of justice behind the walls for sub-humans like Bernie Ward.
He is richly deserving of every bad thing coming his way.
If Your a Lib he did Nothing wrong
May 13, 2008 - 07:41 ET by ChasvsWhy would the MSM report such trivia?
This is who the Liberals in America are. NAMBLA is a prime example of the Libs.
To be a Liberal is to have NO Taboos!
That's why they hate Conservatives so much and are determined to destroy us!
We are SO SCREWED!
»→ Pedophile Commentator
May 13, 2008 - 08:41 ET by Cool ArrowYou'll notice the MSM only reports negatively on pedophilia if there are "special" circumstances.
If it's a 10 yr old giving birth to the child of a 37 yr old Illegal alien, don't count on it. Same for Liberal commentators.
Let's see, when would the MSM report on pedophilia? Hmmmm.
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Father Bernie has a LONG history of it, before radio
May 13, 2008 - 10:45 ET by Ole_SargeThere are a few sites that are "outting" the dear defrocked Padre. He was not a diocesian priest, but actually belonged to an order that "suddenly" finds that it does not have the files on him. Hmmm?
Sorry, the stories from his priesthood days had him as a creep, why my Church ever decided to no longer "defrock" a priest in the church and then hand over to civil authorities; (now they just leave, if at all, quietly) I don't know. Something gloriously medieval about the well deserved acknowledgement of sin, and disconnect from the office of the Priesthood and total condemnation.
ABC 7 News, San Francisco investigation
May 13, 2008 - 10:56 ET by Ole_SargeFrom the Channel 7 site:
"Schwab says they smoked marijuana and drank. Then, Father Bernie
began pressing her for intimate details of the sex life with her
boyfriend.
"Every time I tried to bring the conversation
around to something that made me feel safer, Bernie would bring it back
to the sex," says Schwab.
Schwab says she grew very uncomfortable and when Ward put his hand on her shoulder, she froze with fear.
"And he took that same hand and grabbed the back of my head and pulled
me to him and stuck his tongue in my mouth and held me very tightly
with the one hand behind my head and the other hand up against my
breasts," says Schwab.
Schwab says it went on for several minutes before she could push Father Bernie away, and that he scolded her.
"He said, 'I am really disappointed in you. I thought that you were mature, I thought that you were special,'" says Schwab.
The second complaint comes from another former student who tells us
that when she was 16, Ward drove her to San Francisco for a prayer
meeting. On the way back, they stopped at the Golden Gate Bridge and he
pulled out a six-pack of Heineken. She says when Father Bernie tried to
kiss her, she punched him in the stomach.
When that girl told
her parents they demanded a meeting with the principal of Cardinal
Newman at the time, Father Bill Finn. Rosanne Schwab and her parents
also came.
"With Bernie and parents and Principal Father Finn, I do recall such a meeting," says Father LaTorre
The girls' account of what happened angered Father Finn. After all, he was Bernie Ward's mentor.
Finn's brother also lived in Cardinal Newman's faculty house and he clearly recalls their conversation.
"'That damn Bernie.' I said, 'What, what with Bernie?' He says, 'He got
caught in a sex thing with this girl from Ursuline,'" recalls Tom Finn,
the principal's brother.
Father Bill Finn died eight years
ago, but the I-Team knew him well. After his tenure at Cardinal Newman,
Finn became a vocal critic of the church's handling of priests who
sexually abuse children.
"I think that it could have perhaps
addressed it in a much more expeditious fashion and I wish it had.
Perhaps we'd have a lot fewer victims out there today," said Father
Bill Finn in an interview with ABC7 back in November of 1994.
Father Finn helped with several of our investigations, including one in
1995 that ended with a prison sentence for Santa Rosa priest Gary
Timmons.
Now, Father Finn's brother says he has to speak out about Bernie Ward.
"Bill is -- one of the reasons I'm talking to you is Bill was so not a
hypocrite, that if I kept this to myself, he'd be bothering me, no
matter who it is. Bill was that way," says Tom Finn.
We don't
know for sure if Ward left the priesthood on his own or was forced out.
He served under the Society of the Precious Blood and officials at the
headquarters in Ohio tell us they checked Ward's file and found no
information about sexual misconduct.
Through his lawyer, Ward
declined to be interviewed for this report. But after speaking with
Ward, attorney Doron Weinberg sent the I-Team a letter on Monday
saying, "the allegations are completely false" ... that they "could
have a negative impact on the federal prosecution currently pending
against Mr. Ward."
Former prosecutor and ABC7 legal analyst, Dean Johnson, agrees.
"The existence of this prior conduct becomes a huge deterrent to the
defendant getting on the stand and completely hamstrings his defense
attorneys," says Johnson.
Ward's guilty plea brings some
comfort to Schwab. She says it's important for people to know that
someone who criticized the Catholic church for so long on the radio had
his own complaints of misconduct when he was a priest.
"Too
many people have gotten away with this stuff. I am trying to heal and I
think that this is good for me because I know that I am a strong person
and I know that I have a lot of courage," says Schwab.
Ward is due back in court for sentencing in August. We'll keep track of what happens and get back to you."
Here is the url for it. http://abclocal.go.c...
My question, is it that he is a "defrocked" priest with a prior history is the only reason that there is even this minimal local coverage?
I am willing to bet that yes, he has found some victims over the years. He should have been stopped decades ago.
Hold On There Pilgrim
May 13, 2008 - 16:03 ET by ChuchulainnI don't consider myself a liberal, but I am a Democrat. One of my friends told me I couldn't be a liberal because I am a U.S. Navy vet, never was a hippie, don't do illegal drugs (unless Guinness Draught is illegal), and have been known to target shoot with my Glock on occassion. I can't speak for all Democrats, but this is one Dem (or Dim as some of you so eloquently put it here) that finds pedophilia and child pornography personally abhorrent. If some one had molested my son when he was little it would have required all my self-control to refrain from taking matters into my own hands. If I see a person physically abusing a child on the street, I'm running over with my boxing gloves on in spite of any harm that may befall me, and I'm not asking the political affiliation of the childs' parents. I can't understand how one American can suggest that anotherAmerican would condone pedophilia or child abuse simply because they are a Democrat or don't agree with them politically. Pedophilia and child pornography are abhorrent to all Americans of good heart regardless of their political affiliation. Sorry Bernie, you deserved what you got.