CNN’s 'Belief Blog': Good Catholics Accept Homosexuality
Perhaps CNN’s "Belief Blog" should be renamed the "Anti-Belief Blog." Blatant scorn for Christian morality is ever-present there.
Fordham religious professor Patrick Hornbeck, in a post titled "Why good Catholics are challenging church line on homosexuality," argues that good Catholics are increasingly rejecting "official Church teaching" concerning homosexuality. He claims that "A series of recent conferences at American colleges reveals the breadth of Catholic approaches to issues of sexual diversity."
Because American college professors know so much more about Catholic teachings than clergy who have dedicated their lives to serving God, or even the Pope.
Hornbeck cites a veritable litany of "good Catholics" who reject Church teaching on homosexuality. The founders of homosexual activist groups such as Fortunate Families are included by Hornbeck as examples of “good Catholics.”
Hornbeck even includes hatemonger Dan Savage in his piece, citing "his Catholic upbringing and identity" and sympathetically portraying "the year he spent in a high school seminary," "his Catholic deacon father," and "the baptism he and his husband sought for their son."
The tender and Catholic-loving Savage is in reality a foul-mouthed bigot, declaring that he wanted to f*** the s*** out of Catholic presidential candidate Rick Santorum and telling a reader to “f*** your feelings” concerning gay marriage. (But such exploits were never mentioned by Hornbeck.)
It seems that according to Hornbeck, a “good Catholic” is one who aligns with liberal social ideals, and not someone who actually believes in the teachings of the Catholic Church. In other words, a "good Catholic" is one who rejects actual Catholic teachings in favor of a more progressive worldview. (This has long been the media understanding of Catholicism.)
Hornbeck closed his rant with a call for "conversations" regarding homosexuality: "All of us, Catholic or not, LGBT or not, owe it to ourselves and our fellow citizens to keep these new conversations going. Let’s not to [sic] settle for only part of the story."
The liberal definition of “conversation,” as practiced by Savage and his cohorts, ruthlessly excludes dissent. In liberal speak, conversations about homosexuality can be translated as acceptance of homosexuality.
Anti-religious fare is nothing new for CNN’s Belief Blog. Another piece in the Belief Blog, titled "Why young Christians aren’t waiting anymore," prominently featured Christians who rejected abstinence.
CNN’s Belief Blog seems to be more concerned with undermining Christian belief than examining it.
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What strikes me as odd ...
Submitted by Fredy on Tue, 11/08/2011 - 11:41pm.
... Is that so many want to redefine 'Catholic' in their own image. Why don't people that no longer want to follow the Catholic church simply go to one of a different faith that shares their new beliefs?
because in their egocentrism
Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 12:02am.
because in their egocentrism they believe that they are always right, and rather than conform to existent norms and standards, they think everyone and everything should conform to their desires.
Because dissent is not to be
Submitted by moderncommentaries83 on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 7:47am.
Because dissent is not to be tolerated. You. Must. Approve.
Not only of homosexuality, but abortion and women priests and co-habitation before marriage, etc. etc.
Besides -- if all the Catholic dissenters did the honest thing and went to, say, the Episcopal Church, they'd just be anonymous fish in the same left-wing religious ocean.
By staying Catholic (and openly hating and disobeying Church teaching) they get to be martyrs. They get praise and adoration from the media and the left for "standing up" to the "big bad oppressive" Catholic Church. It's intellectually dishonest, childish, and selfish.
When I was in my early 20s, I stopped going to church. I'd been raised WELS Lutheran, confirmed as such, and stopped going when my liberal college professors "inspired" me to become more "spiritual" than "religious." When I met (and eventually married) a lifelong Catholic, he not only taught me things about the faith I didn't know (either from my catechesis as a Lutheran, or the lies fed to me by anti-Catholics), I decided that I wanted to convert.
Rather than return to my WELS congregation and demand they overturn 500+ years of teachings because I didn't like them, I left that church. Anything else would have been self-serving and unfair to those in my former congregation. End of story.
Which makes me, and people like me (countless), much more tolerant and compassionate than these liberals ever will be.
Ignorance is not a bliss
Submitted by octavioj on Tue, 11/08/2011 - 11:56pm.
These people should learn about the Catholic faith before talking about it. Catholics accept homosexuality. Catholics accept homosexuals. Catholics do not accept homosexual acts. It should be that simple. Catholic doctrine explicitly acknowledges the homosexual impulse. Catholic doctrine explicitly mandates people love the homosexuals as a brother or a sister. But Catholic doctrine rejects homosexual acts as much as it rejects sex outside of marriage, not more, not less. When will they learn before they criticize?
Thanks...
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 9:02am.
...for saving me the trouble of posting my own comment, which echos yours.
I will add that liberals tend to turn things upside-down and inside out. What was wrong is now right, and what was right is now wrong. In other words, anything a liberal says about morality is completely the opposite of reality.
So when a liberal lauds certain "Catholics" as 'good', well... I think I've given you enough to complete that thought.
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
"Good" Catholics, huh?
Submitted by motherbelt on Tue, 11/08/2011 - 11:57pm.
Inigo Montoya, call your office.
Right up there with the "devout" Catholics who favor abortion.
Dan Savage shouldn't even be called a decent human being, IMO, nevermind a good Catholic.
Nonsense. Absolute
Submitted by rbosque on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 12:08am.
Nonsense. Absolute nonsense.
These people are first class fools who have no idea what they are talking about. It's amazing the levels of hubris exhibited here. The faith will never bend it's knee to these devils in the media.
Sad!
Submitted by Dr. Ron on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 12:27am.
I went to Fordham; 1956-1960. The person in the article is a teacher of religion?!
Let me thank Paul Wilson for his expose' of ths fraud...perhaps the powers-that-be at Fordham will read it , become aware of the pernicious idiocy being taught in their classrooms...look past PC shibboleths such as diversity et al and realize that Fordham is, supposedly, a Catholic University. However, with such as Hornbeck being employed there , one wonders. As I sad, sad that Fordham has come to this...
When I think of Dan Savage I
Submitted by Soldat44 on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 12:28am.
When I think of Dan Savage I remember why there is Hell.
The gay issue here is a
Submitted by redfish on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 12:29am.
The gay issue here is a distraction, just like it is with same-sex marriage. In that case, two men or two women who are straight can't marry either, even if they want the legal benefits of marriage. Are people bigoted against straight same-sex couples? No.
What the author is saying here is that "good Catholics" accept either that people can't live without acting out sexual impulses, or sexual impulses are equivalent to love so shouldn't be suppressed.
Neither of those are Catholic ideas. The fact that in certain cases this might apply to homosexuality is irrelevant.
Catholics don't believe that gay people will go to hell. They just believe that sex is not the same thing as love, and not being controlled by sex -- that goes for gays or straights --- is key to living a moral life. They believe sex should be part of a meaningful decision to raise a family.
Dan Savage, who says that conservatives say that one love is better than another, doesn't understand that. Sex != love. Love all the men you want to, Catholics won't disagree with that.
The Catholic church has
Submitted by MrSnuggles on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 1:20am.
The Catholic church has accepted homosexuals, hence the child sex abuse scandal.
Game, set, match.
And you know that now we're
Submitted by moderncommentaries83 on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 7:39am.
And you know that now we're cracking down on the conditions that led to the abuse scandal, the Catholic Church will be condemned for "oppressing" pedophiles in the near future...by the same people who condemned her for the abuse in the first place.
But don't be fooled: The condemnation of the church wasn't because of the abuse (because the left is pretty damned silent on sexual abuse by public school teachers, other religious denominations, and the general public -- all of which have higher rates of sexual abuse than the Catholic Church) but because it was an opportunity to go after the church on issues the left hates: the all-male priesthood and Catholic sexual morality.
You will never find a commentary on the abuse scandal from the media or the left (but I repeat myself) that doesn't emphatically endorse women priests and "acceptance" of all sorts of sexual promiscuity as the "solution" to the abuse scandal. It's not about the victims; it's about undermining Catholicism.
What about "good muslims"?
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 2:54am.
What about "good muslims"?
Shame, Scandal and Intellectual Dishonesty
Submitted by LaVallette on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 6:58am.
Anyone who purports to be a Catholic but challenges, refuses to accept or deliberately goes against the Magisterium or the teaching Authority of the Catholic Church ipso facto is no longer a Catholic. What one FEELS or Thinks it should teach is irrelevant.
It is a scandal that so many so called Catholic Universities especially those in the "Jesuit Tradition", have become the nest of vipers undermining the Teaching Authority of their Patron and Sponsor the Catholic Church from within. If they are as intellectually honest as they purport to be they would immediately cease to call themselves Catholic. Someone a lot smarter than me advises that if you want your children to retain their Catholicism DO NOT send them to a so called "Catholic" University.
I never attended a Catholic University...
Submitted by Chupacabra on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 8:45am.
but I did attend a Catholic College Prep High School run by Jesuits here in Phoenix. Of course, this was many years ago, but I don't recall the Jesuits ever stepping outside the mainstream teachings of the Church. If anything, they probably did more to help me understand and focus my relationship with Christ and the Church. Giving The Word relevance and meaning to a group of testoterone laden teenage boys is a daunting task, but let me tell you, every single one of us admired and respected those Priests. They brought tremendous intellectual horsepower to the discussion of Faith, Religion, and Society.
I hope the Jesuits of today are continuing this legacy. Looking back through history, there have been many instances where we now know the Church was on the wrong side of morality. And while the Bible is explicit on the matter of homosexuality, I do expect our Leaders in the Church to be constantly questioning the direction, drive, motivation, interpretation, and dogma of the Church.
Where is the column that good
Submitted by eaglewingz08 on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 7:14am.
Where is the column that good muslims should accept diversity and homosexuality and gay and lesbian mullahs and imams? Never will happen cause the day after that column appeared the socalled religion of peace would burn the wash compost to the ground.
So, in order to be a "good"
Submitted by moderncommentaries83 on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 7:42am.
So, in order to be a "good" Catholic, I have to endorse something my religion teaches is wrong. Not only that, but I have to endorse a movement -- the gay rights movement -- that openly and proudly works to undermine the religious freedom of Christians throughout the world. By being a "good" Catholic, I am allowing state-sanctioned harassment and bullying of Christians -- which will, one day, include shutting down churches that don't condone and bless same-sex "marriage."
If I have to be a "good" Catholic by subverting religious freedom, undermining morality, and committing cultural suicide...I'll remain a "bad" Catholic, thank you very much.
In the end, my conscience will be clear: I will stand before God who is the only judge I'm concerned about, and not CNN's belief blog.
"Good Catholics"
Submitted by Quasi-socialist on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 8:52am.
who just question Apostolic tradition... you know, basically good Catholics who flout the essence of their denomination. (Former Catholic, here.)
Let's make a deal....
Submitted by notinstl on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 9:37am.
....convince the Muslims first that homosexuality is acceptible....no doubt the rest of the world will follow along.