Slate Editor Debate Tip for Joe Biden: Imitate Campbell Brown

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Does the liberal senior editor of State, Dahlia Lithwick, secretly want the Democrat ticket to lose this year? You have to come to that conclusion when you read the complex mosaic of  debate "tips" that she provides to Joe Biden including, get this, imitate the perpetually annoying Campbell Brown. This is just one part of an array of tips Lithwick provides in a Slate article condescendingly titled, "How To Debate a Girl, and Win." Lithwick starts out by sneering at  Sarah Palin (emphasis mine):

Dear Sen. Biden:

You have a problem. In less than a month, you will face off against Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin in a vice-presidential debate in St. Louis, and were you anyone but Joe Biden, it would likely be a rout. Last week, Palin proved herself a charming, confident, and gifted reader of speeches. But that doesn't change the fact that two years ago she was the mayor of a town of 6,000, crusading against dirty books at the local library. You are a six-term senator and chairman of the Senate foreign relations committee.

Lithwick has absolutely no doubt that Biden will win his debate with Palin but worries about how he wins it:

That's your problem, Joe. Everyone expects you to win the debate, and to trounce her on the substance. But the rules for debating Gov. Palin are different. If you lecture her, you'll be seen as a sexist bully. If you act too smart, you'll be seen as a sexist bully. If you condescend to her, you'll be seen as a sexist bully. So this longtime parliamentary debater (and longer-time female) is going to humbly offer you a few tips on how to debate a girl.

Heads up, Joe, because you have a lot to memorize, including don't act like you really are:

Sen. Biden, let's be clear. Great Supreme Court oral advocates will tell you that a flawless oral argument will never win a case, but a bad argument can lose one. You have a similar problem. If you engage, fight, bicker, or bluster, you can lose this debate. Think Rick Lazio. So my advice, in a nutshell: Don't lose it.

Your real problem with Palin is not actually going to be her gender. Assuming you don't gaze fixedly at her breasts or ask her to fetch you a coffee, you probably won't do anything truly career wrecking on the sexism front. Your real problem is that Palin is not a serious candidate. I don't mean to suggest that she is not a serious person or even a seriously impressive first-term governor with real potential to shake up national politics. Nor do I want to imply for an instant that Palin is not a serious competitor. I just want to state here what you will be unable to say out loud at the debate: That by every obvious metric—experience, knowledge base, decades of public service, policy experience, understanding of the world—Palin is an unserious candidate for the vice presidency of the United States. And as any college debater will tell you, it's far harder to beat a clumsy opponent than a good one. (That's why you do better in your judiciary committee hearings with John Roberts than with Alberto Gonzales.) But if you even hint that Sarah Palin may be opining on the Israel-Palestinian peace process with something Piper pulled off Wikipedia that morning, you will look like a snotty professor lecturing an undergrad. And if you look like a snotty professor, you will come across as a sexist bully.

There is no easy way to tell you this, Joe Biden, but the surest way for Joe Biden to lose a debate against Sarah Palin is by being Joe Biden. If you are windy, pompous, unctuous, or pushy, you will come across as patronizing and condescending—the guy who puts the "boy" into "old boys' network." If you flirt and smirk and flatter (Did you truly tell an Ohio crowd you thought Palin was "good-looking"? Did you really introduce us to your wife, Jill, by leering that she is "drop-dead gorgeous"?), you're going to sound like the creepy guy in the trench coat at the back of the porn theater. If you can manage to be your warm, amiable self, even if you're going batshit on the inside, you will do fine.

This reminds your humble correspondent of a scene from the movie, "The Madness of King George." It comes when King George III of England, who has been confined for madness, finds out that his son, whom he hates, is about to usurp his power from him. In order to prevent that from happening, King George must appear before Parliament to assure them of his sanity by SEEMING normal. When the crazed King George sort of pulls himself together (temporarily) just before making his Parliamentary appearance, he explains how he was able to manage it by saying, "I have remembered how to seem." In other words, even King George knows he is not really sane but has remembered how to SEEM sane at least temporarily. Fortunately for King George III, this required only a very brief appearance before Parliament. Unfortunately for Joe Biden, he is going to have to seem not to be the real Joe Biden for well over an hour under the glare of broadcast lights trying to remember Lithwick's debate tips such as treating Palin as a mere machine:

And that's why the best way for you to approach Sarah Palin will be to forget that she is a woman. Tell yourself that she is a machine in 3-inch heels that has been programmed to make you look brutish and aggressive. She will attack, and you will smile. She will make jokes, and you will laugh. Do whatever you need to do—take four Percocet, deploy Zen breathing techniques—to prevent yourself from attacking this woman. And do just as much not to pay attention to her. Even if she pulls out her breast pump during commercials, keep your eyes glazed over on the middle distance. No compliments. Don't say you like her shoes. Just the facts, Joe.

Lithwick goes through a plethora of other "helpful" debate tips that Biden will have to remember as he pretends not to be Joe Biden but here is her money quote:

Take a page from Campbell Brown's book and ask politely (and like you really want to know the answer and not just hear yourself say the question) what she learned while leading the Alaska National Guard into that war against Saskatchewan. But play to your strengths. Know stuff. Say it briefly. Don't accuse her of not knowing things. Just know more. An insanely successful college debate friend told me recently that the way he won against women was by always behaving like they were men.

Yup, that sure is going to be useful to Joe Biden.  Completely alienate your audience by imitating Campbell Brown. Oh, and I don't want to alarm Dahlia Lithwick too much but here is an assessment of Biden by her liberal colleague, The New Republic editor, Jonathan Chait:

Biden looks as if he’s the product of a laboratory experiment designed to create the world’s worst presidential candidate.

But not to worry, Dahlia, now Biden is only a vice-presidential candidate. 

—P.J. Gladnick is a freelance writer and creator of the DUmmie FUnnies blog.


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That is actually good

That is actually good advice from Slate. When it comes to imitating or ripping people off, Joke Biden is a natural. Just ask Neil Kinnock.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."   

kappa kappa campbell

Do you mean Old Joe should wear a greek letter sweater, pearls, drain a Natty Lite while smoking a Marlboro light?

"Up all night Ooh za za Ooh

"Up all night
Ooh za za
Ooh staying up all night
Say it ain't so Joe, say
it ain't so Joe"

http://www.youtube.c...

 

 

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."   

Bring it...

I can't wait to see their debate. Joe is a smooth talker and loves to argue (as long as no one is allowed to argue back that is). I do agree somewhat with this article that Joe Biden is at a bit of a disadvantage from the onset.

However his disadvantage is based more in Palin's ability to outwit, outspeak, and simply outshine him. She is gold for us conservatives.....election gold!!

Life's a garden, dig it. - Joe Dirt

Don't go counting your

Don't go counting your chickens just yet, CC.  Granted, Palin looked comfortable and poised  at the Convention, but you have to admit, no one has any idea how she will be in a debate.  Joe Biden we do know, but how Palin will perform is still very much unknown. She can't hope to outshine Biden in the encyclopedia of facts category, but hopefully she will be clear, confident and forthright.

And Joe Biden is his own worst enemy.  

pssssst..... mother, Joe

pssssst..... mother, Joe just told me Sarah's gonna let him cheat off her podium during the exam.shhhhhhhhh.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."   

Don't make assumptions

Why do people assume that nobody outside of Washington can know anything?  A person doesn't have to be a career Washington politian to know what's going on in the world.  What the hell does Biden know?  If this guy was so smart and knew all the "facts" then he should be the Democratic Candidate for President.  Heck, he should already BE the President, solving all the world's problems, because He Knows.  He's spent years in Washington, therefore, he knows the real deal.  Please, a rank amateur couldn't do any worse than Biden.

I agree. Biden has already

I agree. Biden has already failed multiple times to become the presidential candidate. And under any other circumstances (i.e., having Teleprompter Boy at the top of the ticket), Biden wouldn't have been selected for VP. Does anyone really believe Biden is happy with this circumstance? Most VP candidates can look up to and respect the presidential candidate. Do you think Biden does that with Obama? I'll bet Biden wakes up every morning swallowing his pride, and that might be a weak spot in the upcoming VP debate.

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

Don't make assumptions?

I never said or even implied that Palin doesn know anything.

I just said a speech isn't necessarily an indication of how she will perform in a debate. I was suggesting that Clearly Californian not make assumptions. 

She seemed very poised and comfortable, and that's probably a good sign that Biden won't be able to rattle her. (And as I said, when Biden gets talking, he's his own worst enemy). I'm just cautioning some here who over the past couple of days  have been predicting that she will eat Biden's lunch, not to write the headline just yet.

 

Neo-dems

TotalKaosDave

The Neo-dems have been hiding who they are for the last 30 years, socialists.  Why be themselves now?

kaosdave...

I disagree! The neo-dems have not been able to hide who they really are from me, and/or from anyone I know. It's the dem rank and file that has just been too stupid to see through the dem fog of hypocracy. I would also wager that nobody on this forum has been fooled by them.

Sarah Palin A Nazi?

 

 

Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/  

success

TotalKaosDave

I never said they were "successful" at hiding themselves.  Everyone knows they're Marxists, but no one wants to say it...except us.  In fact, I can't think of anything at which they have been successful...

Well, they have cornered

Well, they have cornered the market on hypocracy.

Sarah Palin A Nazi?

 

 

Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/  

I just got an excerpt from

I just got an excerpt from her letter to John McCain for his upcoming debate:

"Your real problem is that Obama is not a serious candidate. I don't mean to suggest that he is not a serious person or even a seriously impressive first-term senator with real potential to shake up national politics. Nor do I want to imply for an instant that Obama is not a serious competitor. I just want to state here what you will be unable to say out loud at the debate: That by every obvious metric—experience, knowledge base, decades of public service, policy experience, understanding of the world—Obama is an unserious candidate for the presidency of the United States. "

LOL!!  EXACTLY what I

LOL!!

 EXACTLY what I was thinking while reading this, you just beat me to the punch on it ...........

History's not on his side,

History's not on his side, Joe didn't do to well in the primaries against a candidate

"That by every obvious metric—(does not have) experience, knowledge base, decades of public service, policy experience, understanding of the world"

Biden got less votes in the

Biden got less votes in the primaries than the total population of Wasilla, Alaska, apx. 9000.

He's such a winner for the Demagogocrats

Vote 4 change. Vote 4 anything. See Jack & Mr Shy's first campaign ad for the ONLY viable 3rd party candidate.

Sure Joe.... imitate

Sure Joe.... imitate Campbell Brown, a woman so crazy her parents named her after a can of soup. Lentil probably.

Besides, in Joe Biden's case, isn't imitation the politest form of plagiarism? Biden being a proven plagiarist -- and LIAR?

I'm guessing Joe's opening remarks in the VP debate is something original, like "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat."

I'm sure "intellectual" Democrats will be swooning at your cosmopolitan sophistication.

Vote 4 change. Vote 4 anything. See Jack & Mr Shy's first campaign ad for the ONLY viable 3rd party candidate.

Great quote

Just read a good article on Palin at the Canadian Financial Post

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2008/09/04/energy-mom.aspx

The relevent quote "What Americans are likely to want now is an American Idol-style speech contest between Barack Obama and Sarah Palin. Instead they will get a vice-presidential debate between Palin and Joe Biden, the poor sap."

Another great quote from our friends to the north "If all hockey moms were like Palin, the National Hockey League might be a better sports league than it is."

Reaver

Thanks for the link to the excellent article. Sally Quinn was on Bill O'Reilly tonight and apologized for her previous sexist remarks. She said that she was very impressed with Gov. Palin's convention address.

Of course, I have no doubt that liberal media types like Sally Quinn will continue in subtle if not overt ways to denigrate Sarah Palin every chance they get.

As Rush Limbaugh has said: “The liberal mind does not work like the mind of a regular person.  Their obsession with power and control is what drives them at all times.”

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The liberal media continues to sacrifice ethics and morals for the greater cause: This time for the Election of a Democrat to the Presidency of the United States.

Biden looks as if he’s

Biden looks as if he’s the product of a laboratory experiment designed to create the world’s worst presidential candidate.
The New Republic editor, Jonathan Chait:

Actually, Chait left out a word... Biden looks as if he's the product of a FAILED laboratory experiment...

"It's alive... It's alive... except for its hair."

Vote 4 change. Vote 4 anything. See Jack & Mr Shy's first campaign ad for the ONLY viable 3rd party candidate.

What you went to school for.

The truth is that these folks in the media are better at writing than they are at making sense.

 

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"My morality is your morality."

Too bad these people haven't

Too bad these people haven't seen Palin debate. Even while running for governor, she left the other candidates looking silly. Even when they asked "what's your position on creationism", she said she, for the most part, agrees, but still stuck it to the other guys and left them defending. She's gonna eat Biden for lunch, and he knows it, which is why he's been sucking up as much as possible.

Well then that's a good

Well then that's a good indication that she will do very well against Biden. 

Glad to know that, since I caught hell above for saying don't get too excited, we don't know what she's like in a debate.

Well then that's a good

Well then that's a good indication that she will do very well against Biden. 

Glad to know that, since I caught hell above for saying don't get too excited, we don't know what she's like in a debate.

Caught Hell

You caught hell because you said, "She can't hope to outshine Biden in the encyclopedia of facts category, but hopefully she will be clear, confident and forthright."

My point is why make that assumption. Knowledge of Facts isn't limited to DC.

PEE SOUP GOT SLAPPED...AGAIN!!!

 Bay Bucannon <sp> bi$ch slapped Cambell Soup on her own "NO BIAS...NO BULL" show for ...wait for it....BIAS!!!

LOL!!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

Ster... I saw that... I

Ster...

I saw that...

I loved it when she said you don't know what you're talking about....among other things..you are right...it was Great!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

BAY ON H&C RIGHT NOW ABOUT MEDIA BIAS!!!8:52pm

 I need a "how to embed video 101 class"!!

I got 1.6 Tera bite HD...I can contiually record anything...just don't know how to cut and paste recorded video.  ANY HELP??

You are the master Big!!!!

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 I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

Ster... I'm not the

Ster...

I'm not the master about any of how to tell you to do that embed stuff...but I did hear Bay on H&C...

the right of all stripes have been fighting back like crazy in the msm, I have been waiting for over about twenty years to behold what I am witnessing...it is past time!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Loved it When Bay Buchanan Struck Down Campbell Brown

HERE is the CNN transcript of that exchange:

BUCHANAN: You know, Campbell, you just did a piece, you went to Alaska, you said that she was 80 percent popularity. She's the most popular governor in the country by most count. OK, now, you interviewed two or three people, all who are her opponents who don't like her who she's ended up causing them to leave office or something. Where are the others? For every two that you found that don't like her, there's eight more that do like her, but you guys seem to have overlooked that.

(CROSSTALK) BROWN: OK, come one, we sat -- we had a roomful of people sitting there talking about how wonderful she was, what are you talking about balance?

(CROSSTALK)
That's entirely unfair.

BUCHANAN: That is not entirely unfair. You all have just gone over -- this show, this hour, should be why she's not what she says she is, the anti-Sarah show, Campbell, come on.

BROWN: All right, so let me go to Paul. Clearly Bay Buchanan got the talking points from the McCain campaign. She was very much on message tonight.

BUCHANAN: I never leave talking points, Campbell. I never leave them and don't ever accuse me of such.

On another item: NewsBuster blogger Reaver shared this link to an excellent article with the subtitle: Sarah Palin, a climate skeptic and energy booster, knows more about Canada-U.S. issues than Joe Biden

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“I'd vote for McCain” says his Hanoi Hilton jailer

Joe Biden in a Dress

So Joe Biden is not liberal man enough to debate intelligently a lady in Sarah Palin, but instead is told by liberals to become a rude hag to turn it into a cat fight.

Now that is great advice, Joe Biden in bra and panties, hiking his skirt up for ratings like CB does just so perverts will give her ratings.

I broke in my blog weeks ago that Joe Biden plagiarized "his" Iraq war policy from two Washington Times featured writers. One was Arnaud de Borchgrave.

Joe Biden should be run off the ticket for what he pulled in the United States senate in stealing the "canton" policy from others who were writing about it 3 years before.

Obama has a federal case against him over his not having proven he is a citizen.

Biden is guilty of intellectual theft perpetrated against the United States Senate.

Both of these liberals created fraud in arresting Lawrence Sinclair out of Delaware where the charges were dropped after they abused an invalid and denied him his medications as he has brain tumor while in detention.

Slate talks about debate points? When in this election is someone who is being paid money or a self appointed big shot of the media right going to start exposing these crimes of Obama and Biden.

The proof is there. Sink the Her Marxist Ship Obama with the criminal counts and lets get on to the election without them as they are going to be impeached and imprisoned in the first year in 2009.

 

 

 

*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS

Now that is great advice,

Now that is great advice, Joe Biden in bra and panties, hiking his
skirt up for ratings

AW comeon, LC....now I have to bleach my brain before I go to bed so I won't have nightmares!!

 

ROFL mb.... Just read all

ROFL mb....

Just read all this...Pass the bleach!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Joe Biden

I don't think Joe will be around for very long. His status as the cement anchor on the Democrat ticket will not sit well with the party powerful.

Look for Joe to come down with a serious disease thats difficult to trace , like some form of cancer. Joe bows out, gets a ton of liberal sympathy and viola, Obama gets a spunky female VP replacement.

The trick will be ,when to do it ? Gotta be soon enough to allow for the bounce ,but not enough for the Republicans to counter effectively. Around the first of October. Stranger things have happened.

"So this longtime

"So this longtime parliamentary debater (and longer-time female) is going to humbly offer you a few tips on how to debate a girl."

 

 

UH girl writer, Mrs Palin is a lady...clearly Miss Writer you are not therefore your techniques wil not fly.. NO ONE beats a lady at anything..

Point taken....but I do not fully agree with you.

Motherbelt, 

I do agree with you that reading a speach from a teleprompter is just a bit different than a live argument. However noting the fact that her teleprompter was malfunctioning throughout much of her speach tells us volumes about her ability to think on her feet.

Even if you, as many have stated, believe that she simply memorized it beforehand....that is even more impressive. To be able to recall from memory that speach under the most intense pressured situation in front of the world.....come on! Let's give the girl some credit!

So I do agree with you that we need to be a little careful, but I still think we can be carefully confident that she will do well in the debate.

Life's a garden, dig it. - Joe Dirt

True, she was very

True, she was very impressive.  I'm just warning against being cocky, as it can come back to bite one big time.  And after reading Rainsford's  comment, who has seen her in debates, I'm confident that she will do well.

I think  her biggest advantages are first, that Biden will underestimate her, and second: he is full of himself and he won't be able to resist the temptation to "teach" her a few things.

Here's a line I "wrote" for Palin:

"Senator Biden, why am I the first Palin in a thousand generations to get a vice-presidential nomination?"

 

Great Biden quote

"There are no homosexuals in Delaware" - Joe Biden (I'm pretty sure) 

Rocky & Bullwinkle '08

Another Biden quote?

"You can't walk into a sex shop or a dungeon bar in San Francisco unless you have a slight lisp. I'm not joking" - Joe Biden (something like that)

Biden quote 3

"Give me liberty, or give me some reasonable facsimile thereof" - Teddy Rux Biden 

Rocky & Bullwinkle '08

Biden Quote #4

 

PRESS:
Well, who is your lord?

BIDEN:
We don't have a lord.

PRESS:
What?

BIDEN:
I told you, we're an anarcho-syndicist commune, we take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.

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I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

Biden quote #5

Responding to Jesse Jackson's wish to neuter Barry O.

"You've got two empty halves of coconut and you're bangin'
'em together
." - Teddy Joe RuxBiden

Rocky & Bullwinkle '08

More Biden wit

"I knew Joe Biden, and I, sir, am no Joe Biden" - Joe Biden 

Rocky & Bullwinkle '08