Hasselbeck Smacks Down Behar Claim GOP 'Hasn't Been Black Friendly': 'Should We Begin With Lincoln?'
Joy Behar once again showed how totally ignorant of history she is.
When she absurdly told GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain on Tuesday's "The View," "The Republican Party hasn't been black friendly over the many centuries in this country," co-host Elisabeth Hasselbeck smartly replied, "Should we begin with Lincoln?" (video follows with transcript and commentary):
ELISABETH HASSELBECK, CO-HOST: You said that if you do run against Obama, you probably get about a third of the African-American vote. But the other two thirds you said to Wolf Blitzer are brainwashed into voting for Obama again. You received backlash as well. Do you stand by that statement?
HERMAN CAIN, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I absolutely do, and here's why. I'm glad that you pointed that out, and I said this in my statement. The good news is a lot of black Americans are thinking for themselves. Now, there are some that are so brainwashed that they won't even consider a conservative idea.
HASSELBECK: What do you do about that?
CAIN: Well, you save the savable, and if they’re not, they don't even want to hear about my idea about my 999 plan. I tried to give that to some people and they didn’t want it because they saw me as a Republican, they saw me as a conservative. I call that being brainwashed, not being open-minded to another idea.
JOY BEHAR, CO-HOST: Well it hasn’t exactly, the Republican Party hasn't been black friendly over the many centuries in this country.
CAIN: I never said that.
BEHAR: Well I’m saying that.
HASSELBECK: Should we begin with Lincoln?
BEHAR: I’m sorry?
HASSELBECK: I just think that there is, like, that's not necessarily true.
Of course it's not true.
What ignoramuses in the media like Behar refuse to accept or acknowledge is that blacks in this country following the ratification of the 15th amendment in 1870 largely supported Republican candidates because of Lincoln. This was the case until the 1960s.
Furthermore, if it wasn't for Republicans, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 would not have passed.
Farbeit for someone like Behar to know this.
For more on the commonplace misnomers concerning politics and race in this country, please see Bob Parks' "The Democrat Race Lie."
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Joy Bray-er
Submitted by Pilgrim1949 on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 1:49pm.
Leave it to a Dem-mascot to open her mouth and let fly the ignorance from within.
In biblical times it was considered a miracle when an ass spoke. My, how times have changed!
"Ye canne change the laws of physics....." but some politicians believe that with the right legislation you can pretend they don't really apply to your own pet projects...
Not necessarily true?
Submitted by wingnut55 on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 1:55pm.
To start with Lincoln who authored the Emancipation Proclamation. The 15th amendment passed by republicans. The Civil Rights laws passed in the sixties. Republicans voted for it by a greater percentage than the Democrats. Who were the people filibustering against it in the senate? It was people like Al Gore Sr., Robert Byrd and the Dixiecrats. Who were the Dixiecrats, but Democrat Senators from the south. When LBJ was senate majority leader he kept the Civil Rights bills buried in committee. It was only when he couldn't hide in the Senate when he was President did he sign the bill. Where did the KKK start? It started as a part of the Democrat party. If a Democrat wanted to win a primary in the South they needed to accept the support of the KKK to win. I will never understand why so many Black Americans vote Democrat when so much damage has been done to them by the Democrat party.
Republicans and states rights
Submitted by lrgon on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 2:57pm.
Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation ( a proclamation supposedly freeing the slaves) was never directed at the northern states where it had the best chance of being enforced!
Lincoln gave a famous speech in which Fredrick Douglass found Lincoln's words ironic to say the least!
Lincoln opined that if he could save the union by not freeing none of the slaves he would do that. Lincoln was quite adamant that the slave issue was not really a part of the reason he was willing to wage war on the South otherwise in his speech he would have just said it! Lincoln was willing to leave all of them or part of them in slavery. His motive was total centralization of power through the utter and complete destruction of independent and sovereign states. War to Lincoln represented the most direct line to accomplishing that objective.
The Civil Rights act was 99% federal government intrusion into states' rights.
Irgon
Submitted by rhausele on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 6:46pm.
It seems that Ms. Bahar doesn't have a monopoly on stupid. All I can say is, "read some history!"
"You can't fix stupid." --
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 9:34am.
"You can't fix stupid." -- Ron White
Not only do RonPaulLoons love their own farts...
Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 12:17pm.
But they love to pick at the dingleberries in full view of everyone.
Phweet. You go loon. Power on stupidly.
Huh?
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 2:06pm.
"Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation ( a proclamation supposedly freeing the slaves) was never directed at the northern states where it had the best chance of being enforced!"
Excuse me, but just where did you get that idea? It can't be from the Proclamation itself.
"That on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free; and the Executive Government of the United States, including the military and naval authority thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of such persons, and will do no act or acts to repress such persons, or any of them, in any efforts they may make for their actual freedom."
I do see something in there about "any state." I don't see anything that exempts the Northern States. Lincoln freed ALL of the slaves (there's nothing "supposed" about it), no matter where in America they resided. Any State which ignored that Proclamation was then considered in rebellion, no matter where in the country that State resided. Tell me again how Lincoln supposed "meant" only certain states to be affected?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Proclamation
Submitted by Hawgdrvr on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 2:39pm.
........the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States......
That phrase specifies the States in Rebellion, ie the Confederate States of America. The slaves were not even freed in the border states , or the Northern States.
"I will never understand why
Submitted by Pa1adin on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 5:06pm.
"I will never understand why so many Black Americans vote Democrat when so much damage has been done to them by the Democrat party."
I will never understand why so many Black Americans vote Democrat when so much damage is being done to them by the Democrat party. Wherever the Democrat party is in control in the US, crime is higher, people are poorer, standards of living are less, drug use is higher, and corruption is more visible. Most of these places have high levels of black constituents.
It also never ceases to amaze me how the liberal class puts so much importance on race. They're the ones who usually interject racial slurs against non-white Republicans.
Over the many centuries in this country?
Submitted by Marcus Porcius on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 2:02pm.
The country is less than two and a half centuries old. According to Merriam-Webster, the definition of "many" is:
"consisting of or amounting to a large but indefinite number."
Anybody else define less than three as a "large but indefinite number?"
Those harpies are always spouting stupid things on that show, most of which are not just intellectually vacant from a philospohical standpoint but also factually wrong. Just ask master planetary scientist Sherri Shepherd, who apparently was too busy to notice a globe in practically every classroom and library she'd ever been in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbizzLzcpnM
Or veteran metalurgist Rosie O'Donnell, who "knows" that fire can't melt steel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxoVzrAr98w
And they call conservatives stupid.
"Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." G.K. Chesterton
www.theconservativereview.com
Fire Melting Steel?
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 2:08pm.
Everyone knows that all those foundries are just staged Hollywood events! Steel grows on trees!
The scary part is that View watchers are allowed to vote.
Maybe the 'all-knowing' Rosie should
Submitted by texasborngranny on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 2:33pm.
take a look at the before and after photos of the Fire truck engulfed in Waxahachie, TX chemical fire @ http://firetruckblog.com/2011/10/03/watch-raw-video-as-fire-truck-is-eng...
MLK
Submitted by obageegee on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 2:19pm.
Ahem Miss sociology major, Martin Luther King was a REPUBLICAN!
If you were referring to
Submitted by MikeB on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 6:28pm.
If you were referring to Joyless Blowhard, her major, indeed her Master's Degree is in English.
The harridan needs to go back to teaching English in a High School somewhere, as she has demonstrated time and again that she is incompetent to discourse on sociology, history, or political science.
And from where did she
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 9:41am.
And from where did she purchase that degree?
No, let her stay where she is!
Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 9:54am.
No, let her stay where she is!! At least she's not influencing children!
Do you really want her teaching kids anything??? Especially given the fact that even English teachers manage to propagandize the kids in the classroom?
MLK and Jackie Kennedy
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 6:59pm.
And lets not forget that Jackie Kennedy didn't think much of MLK, and she (in her own words) formed most of political opinions from her husband, the democrat JFK.
Yeah, he was a Republican
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 1:09am.
Yeah, he was a Republican until the Kennedys made him an offer he couldn't refuse.................and then he didn't last too much longer after that.
Heck, what have Democrats done for black Americans?
Submitted by JeffC... on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 2:23pm.
If the Democrats were good for black Americans, then Maxine Waters' district would have the safest, highest-employment, lowest poverty in the country.
So would Detroit.
JeffC,
Submitted by Agnostic on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 2:25pm.
They give them a ride to the polls, a pack of cigarettes and help them fill out voting cards and other government forms.
Cain speaks directly to the brainwashed
Submitted by kata on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 2:27pm.
This is the same crew who spent ten minutes discussing Rick Perry's "rock problem" yesterday.
I watched the whole thing on YT and noted that even though Baba said at the end they wished they could have discussed his tax plans - what they really seemed to focus on was social issues :
Whoopi Goldberg tried very hard to drag him back to the "stick it to the rich" .
Sherri Shepherd wanted to talk again about said rock.
Joy Behar wanted to discuss Gay Marriage
Barbara Walters took a jibe at his abortion stance.
He drug them all right back (kicking and screaming) to the firm promise that he intends to make his decisions not on the basis of personal belief, but on the Constitution. Whoopi wanted to hang that sentiment on Obama's too, which had me giggling. All in all, I think he did very well. Certainly better than McCain.
Cain's slogan
Submitted by Agnostic on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 2:32pm.
Along with his play on Cain and Able:
Not Obama /
Certainly better than McCain
granted it's a lukewarm slogan
Submitted by kata on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 2:57pm.
but it worked for Obama against Bush. I just wish we could fast forward to 2012.
fast forwarding
Submitted by Agnostic on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 12:25pm.
understand your sentiments but I'm not giving up a second of my life for those idiots - Democrat or Republican.
Joy Behar is ignorant of
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 2:32pm.
Joy Behar is ignorant of history, science, politics, humor, personal hygiene....
That's because
Submitted by Bodini on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 3:43pm.
in her former life she was a public SCHOOL TEACHER! It's good to know she is so much smarter now.
Albeit a very ignorant English teacher!
Submitted by drsamherman on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 9:16pm.
She didn't know who C. S. Lewis (one of the major British authors of his time) was. Considering how intellectually challenged she comes off, not surprising that she mistakes her cynical, bitter remarks for comedy. Why anyone would find that hair-rending, detestable old hag funny defies explanation.
Joyless. . .
Submitted by rickbren on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 5:40pm.
. . . Behar is just plain ignorant!
A day to look forward to
Submitted by NotFondOfLibs on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 7:45pm.
There will come a day when Americans realize that the voice of Joy Behar is like a day without sunshine. She gives new meaning to the word "ignorant".
The Democrats have exploited
Submitted by TerryWest on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 2:52pm.
The Democrats have exploited the poor & black population, they have taken upon themselves to be the voice for and gate keepers of and have failed in that self appointed position miserably.
*I'm unable to post using IE9, the comment box disappears.
I have to switch to Firefox in order to post here now.
I alternate between browsers
Submitted by Rusty Shackleford on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 3:44pm.
I alternate between browsers and the last time I was here I had no text box unless I replied to an existing message. I was happy today because the text box was there as it should be, but I am also using Firefox.
I also noticed that when I would enter a reply that I would start typing in the text box and then the screen would scroll down and then activate the "back" functionality. It was extremely annoying.
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Chris Matthews: The Joy Behar of MSNBC.
Bill Maher: The Joy Behar of HBO.
Paul Krugman: The Joy Behar of The New York Times.
people still use IE?
Submitted by Denny Crane on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 11:20pm.
;-)
We Are The 53%
This guy was a talk show
Submitted by Rusty Shackleford on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 3:41pm.
This guy was a talk show host, and a good one at that! Why is he so subdued now that he's on the campaign trail? Had a caller made a comment as stupid as Behar's he would have made them look like the ignorant fool that they are in his usual gracious manner. He should have embarrassed Behar to the point that she was forced to leave the stage. God what a stupid person. I want a doctor to examine her and prove to me that she is not brain dead because I see no difference between her intelligence and the intelligence of my Venus Fly Traps.
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Chris Matthews: The Joy Behar of MSNBC.
Bill Maher: The Joy Behar of HBO.
Paul Krugman: The Joy Behar of The New York Times.
Your plants are way smarter
Submitted by Rukus on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 4:44pm.
At least they know when to shut their traps!
(Sorry Rusty, I guess that was just a case of low-hanging fruit...flies. )
I don't think Behar meant the
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 5:41pm.
I don't think Behar meant the Republican party of the Civil War. There have been a few changes in the political landscape since the 1800s.
oh?
Submitted by kata on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 5:51pm.
"over the many centuries in this country" is just the lazy man's way of saying what exactly?
She did say "over the many centuries" and the GOP is . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 7:18pm.
. . . about 160 years old.
C'mon, balboa. It's exactly what she meant. Behar has demonstrated once again that she possesses the intellect and knowledge of a bread stick.
What's even more remarkable is that she hosts her own CNN show who labels conservatives as ignorant of facts..
Egad!!! Bal is doing his Joy Behar imitation.
Submitted by UpNorth on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 7:30pm.
He doing the same dissembling as Joy.
The only thing Joy said, that we can all agree with, is "I'm sorry"!!!! Yes, Joy, you truly are.
That is true. I stand
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 9:49pm.
That is true. I stand corrected.
Perhaps she meant the Democratic Republicans.
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 1:50pm.
Perhaps she meant the Democratic Republicans, which split into two factions, the Republicans who were abolitionists and supported the rights of Blacks from day one, including the right to vote and own property, and the Democrats who supported slavery and tried to limit the rights of Blacks for well over a century, especally the right to vote and own property.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Actually, bal's right
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 9:04pm.
The change was that black slave ownership was shifted from the southern plantation owners to the national democrat party.
-Where it remains to this day.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
You're really grasping at
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 9:44am.
You're really grasping at straws now, balboa, in your feeble attempts at being a Behar apologist.
Care to elaborate?
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 1:43pm.
"There have been a few changes in the political landscape since the 1800s."
Care to elaborate on that?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Do I really need to? Can't
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 6:07pm.
Do I really need to? Can't you just, you know, research? You're not going to trust my input anyway, so...
→ Black Friendly?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 8:49pm.
This is nothing more than the same declaration made by Tavis Smiley that Black people need to be "taken care of".
JOY BEHAR, CO-HOST: Well it
Submitted by GregE on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 9:33pm.
JOY BEHAR, CO-HOST: Well it hasn’t exactly, the Republican Party hasn't been black friendly over the many centuries in this country.
Many centuries?? You think she actually knows how many, or is she thinking in the realm of ten or twenty?
She has the counting skills
Submitted by Ruths husband Ben on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 8:49am.
She has the counting skills of my beagle. One, two, many, too many.
BTW, curious as to what Joy's
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 11:19pm.
BTW, curious as to what Joy's reply was?
She said Lincoln was her favorite ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 10/04/2011 - 11:27pm.
Founding Father.
Must have been channeling Mika, eh?
MD
Cain needs to flip this crap
Submitted by amyshulk on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 11:32am.
Cain needs to flip this crap back at these insufferable racists!!!
My jaw dropped when Cain was on with Chris Wallace last Sunday, discussing updating Hail to the Chief. Chris said "Hip hop?" and Cain said no, gospel.
Cain must be a MUCH better person than I am - I would have been "Excuuuuuuuuuuse me???"
Ronald Reagan
If anyone is interested...
Submitted by Doc_Navy on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 6:03pm.
The longtime members of NB might remember a post I wrote, oh... almost two years ago on this very subject. I believe it was entitled, "Are Conservative Republicans as racist and violent as the mainstream media espouse??"
You can find it if you look me up and track me.
Doc