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GOP to Warren Buffett: Show

Submitted by Tim Graham on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 9:41am.

GOP to Warren Buffett: Show us your tax returns

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20110237-503544.html

An excellent exposure of

Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 10:08am.

An excellent exposure of Buffett's contradictions:

The Real Buffet Rule

Buffett could give more of his money to the government, but he doesn't. He gives it to organizations like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

Money Quote:

when it comes to his actions, Buffett has some good things to say. What his actions tell us is that resources do more good in the hands of individuals and organizations other than the government.

Nobody ever has gotten rich on his own

Submitted by ThisnThat on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 10:42am.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/21/elizabeth_warren_there_is_nobody_in_this_country_who_got_rich_on_his_own.html Therefore, everything you own belongs to the Government.

And this person wants to become a US Senator? And here's how the libs respond to this. http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cohn/78459/moral-argument-soaking-the-rich Some very demented quotes:

Almost by definition, people who are successful have benefited from some measure of good fortune.
The proverbial self-made man is not exactly self-made. He is benefiting from the accomplishments of past generations, not to mention the support of public institutions (like the National Science Foundation) and services (like schools) that foster innovation and lead to greater productivity.
Therefore, doesn't society deserve a very significant share of what he has received?
Then again, nobody is suggesting the rich to give up all the extra money they make. All anybody is asking is that the rich pay more in taxes--in effect, that they reinvest in society by a little more than they do now.

The socialist argument is, "The only re-investment allowed is by taxation." The fact that the rich provides factories to make products that adds to peoples' comfort (wash machines, air conditioning, miracle medicine, automobiles, insecticides, etc.) and provides jobs -- simply doesn't cut it in a socialist's mind. Nope -- the innovative person has to, instead, give up his right to his money, so that a bureaucracy can re-distribute it according to the socialist's superior goals.

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“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court

I found a great money quote

Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:14am.

I found a great money quote which really encapsulates the liberals' contention that everything belongs to everyone.

From the Richmond Times-Dispatch editorial Class Warfare: No New Taxes

The president's proposal calls to mind an economist's description of the Alice-in-Wonderland morality of contemporary liberalism, in which " 'I want mine' is regarded as greedy and unenlightened, while 'I want yours' is regarded as selfless and progressive.

Excellent

Submitted by ThisnThat on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:18am.

But, sadly, too true.

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“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court

It is beyond ridiculous

Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:28pm.

The way this government throws away money.

Almost a TRILLION dollars on "Stimulus" that didn't stimulate anything. A half a billion for a stupid idea (you bet those asshats took the Fifth, there are millions in offshore accounts, no doubt), SIXTEEN dollar muffins.

I really want to see some accountability in government. As in people go to jail for this kind of nonsense. A banker who was acting in a trustee capacity would go to jail, so why not these pencil necked government types? If they had to think about that before pulling this kind of wanton graft, it would stop. In a hurry.

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oh that's been corrected

Submitted by kata on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:31pm.

coffee and fruit were included in that $16. lol.

Give Peas a Chance. ☑ ABØ in 2012

Oh that's great!

Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:42pm.

So we were only overcharged by $12 instead of $15!

I feel so much better, thanks Kata.

P.S. Our "coffee vacuum canister" is too cool for school!

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you're makin me jealous!

Submitted by kata on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:45pm.

but I've taught both my daughters the secret of making a good espresso so coffee doesn't last long enough in this house to go stale anyway.

Give Peas a Chance. ☑ ABØ in 2012

The Greeks ♥ bureaucrats.

Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 10:43am.

Over the past year the government hasn't laid off a single civil servant.

But others entertain strong doubts about the willingness and ability of the Greek political class to implement the structural measures that will improve the performance of the Greek economy. "The present government has done absolutely nothing during the last 12 months to speed up privatizations, reduce the public sector or open up closed professions," Athanasios Papandropoulos, a leading economic analyst, told me recently in an interview. "In these 12 months it has not fired even one civil servant. The only thing it is doing is trying to tax the private sector out of existence. Why should we believe that they will do something different now?"

Today most Greeks think that it is Greece's foreign lenders—especially Germany—that are imposing on the country the harsh new taxes that, absent structural reforms, will simply make the recession deeper. Mr. Andrianopoulos says that the lenders know better. "Our international creditors should make it very clear that it is not they that are forcing Greeks to pay higher taxes, but rather the unwillingness of the Greek government to fire civil servants, to stop subsidizing the unions and to close defunct state bodies."

And SS is largest Ponzi scheme, ain't seen nuthun yet...

You Didn't Build That.

Back from a fishing trip and it seems NB had quite a week!

Submitted by drsamherman on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:46am.

I was on a fishing trip with my two sons in Alaska and we returned late yesterday.

What a week y'all have had!

Between Al "Fungus" Sharpton, Bill "Bowel Movement" Maher and the Troy Davis execution, we didn't hear much while we were hooking some great fish. Some we did the "catch & release" thing. Other fish got the "catch, filet & fry" thing. Was able to spend some great time with my sons.

Looking forward to catching up here.

Alaska!!! Fishing!!!

Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:24pm.

Oh I am green as spinach, Sam.

I've never been to Alaska, but it's on my bucket list. Closest I've been is Vancouver Island, which was absolutely gorgeous. And the fishing there was spectacular.

So what did you catch?

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We had a wonderful time!

Submitted by drsamherman on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:11pm.

Our travel package included a guide, preparation of the fish for shipment on dry ice and of course transportation to/from fishing sites.

We caught Steelhead and Rainbow trout, Coho and Silver salmon that can be prepped and shipped. We also caught some Northern Pike, but they are currently on the catch and release list.

We caught the pike using the fuzzies, because the Northern Pike will go after mice and ducklings. The pike are aggressive players, and the boys really enjoyed that.

Having fish tacos, a good local microbrew and salt-roasted potatoes for dinner. My wife took the girls to see some shows in New York and caught a lot of shopping bags. Her favorite species is the marked-down designer shoe. My daughters prefer going after the more elusive discounted designer handbags.

Your post made me laugh, Sam

Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:30pm.

As a reformed shopper, I mean. (Christmas hint for you, Sam....for your daughters. I have one I bought years ago, and I still get compliments on it, they are awesome and warrantied for life, too).

Sounds like you're eating well, again! Do you have a flickr account? I'd love to see the Alaska photos.

My FIL had a fly-in place in Canada north of International Falls, MN. The northerns were fierce up there, but I always threw them back, actually I threw almost everything back as the only freshwater fish I'm fond of is walleye. Northerns are really fun to catch. They look so, I don't know, prehistoric, maybe? Did you get ripped off by any seals (happened to me one time, the guide was furious!).

When we did our Vancouver trip, we didn't ship any fresh fish back...but we did have some of the Kings smoked and canned, as well as smoked and vacuum packed. OMG! The canned stuff was beyond delish! I'll try to find the cannery, I know you can buy their stuff, even if you haven't caught it, as I ended up (after giving away some to a friend) buying a case for this friend as a wedding gift!

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fuzzies, So many types of bait, so little time. What fun

Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 4:25pm.

Catching bait squid (6"-8") in Hawaii is a nighttime activity, the bait is a lure about an 1" long and is completely lined with hooks, the body is glow in the dark phosphorescent, nuthun like getting hosed with black ink.
Mahimahi just love squid in the daytime.

You Didn't Build That.

careful with that catch & release

Submitted by kata on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:27pm.

the "fish amnesty" folks are making their way through the PNW ;)

Give Peas a Chance. ☑ ABØ in 2012

We applied amnesty to many fish.

Submitted by drsamherman on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:55pm.

They were all treated equally. Fried or grilled and then served with lemon and butter.

Of course drsam*

Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:07pm.

who better than a psychiatrist to "treat" fish?...;-)
Next time, don't forget a little cajun seasoning
http://www.slapyamama.com/

Hi Doc - details, please

Submitted by mom_rox on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:50pm.

Where did you fish? Too bad you didn't get a chance for "combat fishing" on the Kenai. That's a blast.

We went out to the southern Kenai for a few days...

Submitted by drsamherman on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 10:25pm.

...to catch the Coho and Silver salmon and then came back to the Anchorage area for the Steelhead and Rainbow trout.

The pike on the Kenai waterways were playing very nicely. They put up a fight, but it was catch and release so we did.

On the other hand, the salmon and trout are filleted, smoked or frozen and made for the best fish tacos (trout)!

Federal government "Shovel-ready jobs"

Submitted by lrgon on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:46pm.

Former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson talked about Obama's "shovel ready jobs" and his neighbor's dogs creating more work than a federal program. Johnson's analogy was apropos and he aimed the comment at Obama but, Johnsons could have aimed that comment at Romney, the former liberal Governor of "Taxachusetts" and been just as accurate.

At the GOP candidates debate in Florida Romney put on a pretty good show on the "get the federal government out of education" gambit. Mitt was all over that question like a shredded up rug and a six month old puppy. Romney wants to have it both ways. He wants to run for superintendent of schools and president of the US. Romney claims he wants less federal involvement and with the next breath says he wants more government involvement.

If Romney really wants to "get the federal government out of education," why is he, as a candidate for the highest federal office, concerning himself with whether and how much "your kids" are tested, how bright your teachers are and whether they are paid "properly." These sort of things are local issues that should be addressed by local and state school boards and local voters.

Romney also wants to stand with the unions.In view of what happened in Madison,Wisconsin he would say that!

"And as President I will stand up to the national teachers unions." ---Mitt Romney.

Rick Perry tried to put a dunce hat on Mitt but missed. Perry or any of the other candidates could have conservatively insisted that if the Mittser really was in favor of getting the federal government out of education then why would Romney say he "stands with the teacher's unions?" If indeed the federal government is out of education, the teachers unions would have no reason to be lobbying in Washington and Mitt would have no opportunity to heroically "stand up" to them.

That Race To the Top gambit
Perry tried to pin the tail on the donkey again but again missed the liberal jackass. Romney pretended not to know what Perry was talking about. "I'm not sure exactly what he's saying," replied Romney. "I don't support any particular program that he's describing. I think that the President — I think the Secretary of Education Arne Duncan is doing a good thing by saying, you know what, we should insist that teachers get evaluated and that schools have the opportunity to see which teachers succeeding and which ones are failing and that teachers that are not successful are removed from the classroom. Those ideas by Secretary Duncan, that is a lot better than what the President did which is cutting off school choice in the Washington, D.C. schools."

Perry tired to locate the good Mitt and the bad Mitt but I suppose even the New York Times did a better job of finding the real Mitt. Mitt Landler and Trip Gabriel pointed out that Romney, just the day before he denied supporting the program, did just that. At a town hall meeting in Miami on Wednesday, Romney said: "I think Secretary Duncan has done some good things," he said. "I hope that's not heresy in this room. He, for instance, has a program called Race to the Top, which encourages schools to have more choice, more testing of kids, more evaluation of teachers. Those are things I think make sense."

Those "shovel-ready jobs"
Gary Johnson's timeless observation that his neighbor's dogs regularly create more shovel-ready jobs than Obama has with all his stimulus programs. Romney, it appears is not the fellow that will end the unions' gravy train that is the Department of Education!

So far so good

Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 12:56pm.

The PC gave up the ghost last night so I am working on this notebook. So far Tech is not running all over my Heels. Oh heck. Spoke too soon. They just hit for a
td.

A well regulated militia being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Big one today*

Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:11pm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKrCZZg3Ow8

Yeah, I'm a little late to the party today

Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:10pm.

GO DAWGS!

GO YELLOW BRITCHES!

ROLL TIDE!

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

Well we did let the Jackets

Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 3:34pm.

Well we did let the Jackets score 60. Good game. Too many mistakes by the Heels

Baby Dooley on the pregame show on CBS. Seems he is not too kean on having Texas A&M join the SEC.

A well regulated militia being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

rick,

Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 3:57pm.

That was a pretty good game, actually. It looked like the Heels might just catch them there at the end. They played some pretty good D as well, as GT is usually a high-scoring offense.

I didn't see all of it because I was watching the Dawgs beat the Rebs.

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

Our grand DOJ strikes at The Price is Right

Submitted by ThisnThat on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 1:48pm.

I don't know if this has been mentioned before (apologies if it has, and apologies for the length of this post) -- but I'm shocked at the length the DOJ will go against easy prey, while leaving true lawbreakers (aka Black Panthers) alone. This is about wheelchair access to a person at the Price is Right studios -- which were built, by the way, prior to ADA - American Disability Act. Bottom line -- this is outrageous, and goes to show what our Federal Gov is doing to destroy business in this country.

Findings: (1) Wheelchair access wasn't perfect, and (2) The Price is Right website was not fully accessible to individuals with disabilities, and that information regarding wheelchair seating, auxiliary aids and services, and other accommodations that individuals with disabilities may need to attend a taping of the Show or be interviewed as a potential contestant was not readily available on the website.

Penalties:

The person filing the suit will be compensated $10K. Her daughter will receive an additional $10K.
TPIR will modify its facilities to avoid discrimination against an individual with a disability.
TPIR will provide auxiliary aids and services when necessary to ensure effective communication with individuals with disabilities.
TPIR will submit for review and approval by the United States written policies and procedures for providing auxiliary aids and services to achieve effective communication with individuals with disabilities in connection with the Show.
TPIR will designate and train an employee who will serve as an ADA Coordinator.
TPIR will designate, implement, publicize, maintain, and keep updated a toll free number, an email address, and a postal address for providing customer service and information to individuals with disabilities and receiving ADA Complaints.
Within ten (10) business days after an ADA Complaint is received, TPIR will commence an investigation. TPIR shall disclose to the United States the facts discovered through its investigation. The Complainant does not have to offer any proof of a disability.
TPIR will train all employees and contractors who have contact with members of the public, including but not limited to contestants and potential contestants, regarding their obligations under the ADA.
TPIR will submit the proposed text and visual content for a webpage on TPIR Sites labeled "Accessibility" for review and approval by the United States to ensure consistency with ADA requirements.
TPIR will conduct outreach to encourage individuals with disabilities to attend tapings of the Show.
in conjunction with CBS, TPIR will extend invitations to leaders representing a variety of disability rights groups (e.g., representatives of individuals who are blind or have low vision, deaf or hard of hearing, have mobility disabilities, and veterans with disabilities) for one or more educational meetings.
TPIR will maintain a log containing the following information: requests for accessible seating locations or other disability-related seating accommodations, requests for sign-language interpreters, requests for assistive listening devices, use of a service dog, and written requests for an auxiliary aid or service or modification to policies or procedures that are received in advance of attendance at a taping; and responses or actions taken in response to each request for disability-related accommodations.

And a whole lot more. Read here. http://www.ada.gov/price-is-right.htm

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“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court

wow

Submitted by kata on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 3:49pm.

Did you read the website accessibility mandates? Just WOW.

Give Peas a Chance. ☑ ABØ in 2012

I have a tax question.

Submitted by Newsbubba on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 3:03pm.

A friend called and said that he and his wife (very hot!) want to come down to Fantasy Fest this year, and that she is interested in the whole body paint thing.

He asked me if I could recommend anyone who did great body paint, and I said no, but that I would be glad to do the work for her myself.

He laughed and said, "How much?" So I threw out a number, "$500."

He said, "Geez, I thought it would be at least a $1,000!"

I said, "OK, I'll make it a $1,000, but you have to let me pay you $500 up front (no pun intended), and give me 90 days to pay off the balance."

Can I count that $1,000 as a business expense?

Comrade Bubba

No no no bubba!!! Le'ts take

Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:26pm.

No no no bubba!!! Le'ts take that $500 extra, and see if I can get some kind of a discount airfare from Hawaii to Florida.......and then I'll HELP you paint that sweet young thang!!! And you don't have to pay a fee to me either.

Plus,I can see my #2 son, who is now stationed in Maimi. Sound like a deal???

Pay you a fee!?!?

Submitted by Newsbubba on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 10:41am.

I just need to decide how much to charge YOU!

Hope your son enjoys Miami. It's a little too crowded and "Jersey Shore" for me, but some people love it. They still dress to impress in Miami. Down here we call anyone wearing a suit and/or tie, the defendant.

Let me know if he ever gets to paradise, and I'll buy him a beer.

Comrade Bubba

for my fellow Texans

Submitted by mom_rox on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 3:38pm.

Sorry to keep bringing this up, but it's really been gnawing at me: who was right? Rick Santorum saying we are subsidizing the tuition for illegal students at UT (University of Texas, aka t.u.) *OR* Rick Perry who said (on Hannity's radio show) that it's not a subsidy.

Whew, I've concluded that Gov. Perry is right. This is more correctly described as a "Tuition Break" vs. a "Tuition Subsidy".

Essentially (for merit-based applications), UT has x number of slots available for in-state students (not exceeding 75% of the incoming class). So whether the slot goes to a US citizen or an illegal alien, the tuition is $9500. I recognize that my taxes subsidize many, many aspects of the illegals here in Texas, but this is not one of them.

Who was right?

Submitted by ckc1227 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 10:54pm.

You tell us:

"In addition to in state tuition, the Dream Act also gives “Texas Grant” money ($20,000 per illegal alien, at $5,000 a year) to illegal aliens. Additionally, other Texas taxpayer-funded grant programs are available to illegal aliens, including the Texas Equalization Grant program, which is designed to pay the difference between private and public university tuition for private-school attendees who are Texas residents, and Texas state-taxpayer-funded student loans."

So, do you still believe your taxes aren't subsidizing tuition for illegal immigrants?

Grant money for illegals...

Submitted by USMC8411 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:16pm.

Guess Marsha Coakley (As Patrick Kennedy calls her) (D-MA) AG said it all: "Technically it is not illegal to be illegal in Massatwoshitts."

Why do we insist on rewarding illegal alien illegal behavior? Why are US Citizens held accountable to any "laws?" Why do we allow politicians to get away with this?

Now, Perry has lost my vote. It seems as if he left the democrat party, but the democrat party did not leave him, so he kept is membership in good standing.

Has the Alamo been torn down yet? What a disgrace to the Texans that lost their lives defending it against Mexicans. Maybe the Texans have learned a lesson in surrendering to Mexican invaders and this is part of some grand reparations program?

We did legally purchase California, New Mexico, Texas, etc from the Mexican government, and it was not "stolen" from them as they claim.

Thanks, ckc

Submitted by mom_rox on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:58pm.

I wasn't aware of the grant money. (I certainly do not understand why the illegal student needs to attend a private vs. a public university. ???) Do you have any idea of the amount that has been granted?

I'm surprised I haven't heard this mentioned on local talk radio.

Texas State Tuition

Submitted by Radical1979 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:02pm.

If the state of Texas provides ANY money to it's institutions, and if any of those institutions have illegals attending, then Texas is subsidizing the tuition of illegal aliens. That's true of any state. It's very simple.

Proud member of the 53%!

healthcare OT tidbits

Submitted by kata on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 3:51pm.

Because we can't say "I told you so" quite enough...

Give Peas a Chance. ☑ ABØ in 2012

Posted that last night in the Forums, Kata

Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 4:03pm.

We started discussing "Health Care Reform" about two and a half years ago, way before the big fight(s) to pass O-Care, and patient records, and the problems w/centralizing them would cause.

As you said "I told you so"....

Too bad those forums (the original one had over 600 comments with fabulous cites, too) were deleted in the changeover last year. Alas.

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Georgia and Georgia Tech both won

Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 3:53pm.

:-D

Now it's up to Bama to make this another perfect college football day for me.

ROLL TIDE!

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

I'm watching the Score Ticker, Dave

Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 4:04pm.

Satellite is down. Rain, rain go away, go away on FOOTBALL DAY!

Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)

J,

Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 4:23pm.

Sorry about your TV problems.

Hopefully it will clear out by the time the Gators get underway.

I doubt Kentucky will give them much trouble.

It looks like the Tide is going to have their hands full with the Hogs today.

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

I'm back, thankfully

Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 5:02pm.

Watching Clemson hand the Noles their heads....hope they can keep it up.

They just roughed Clemson's punter, that was a nasty spill.

Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)

J,

Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 5:06pm.

Yeah, I just saw that score.

LOL - I had to look twice to make sure I hadn't read it wrong.

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

Dave is perfect today

Submitted by Rukus on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 7:24pm.

Bama took care of the Hawgs 38-14. Mays had an awesome 83 yd punt return!

ROLL RIDE!
GO DAWGS!
GO GATS!
GO SEC!

_____________________________________________________________ I'm not too drunk to dance! It's just that people keep stepping on my hands!

Ruk,

Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 9:13pm.

Should the Birds beat those pirate pretenders down in Tampa tomorrow, it will be two perfect football weekends in a row.

LOL - And that doesn't happen very often around here.

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

Heh, Looks like they'll be serving up some smoked hog...

Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 6:10pm.

...down in Tuscaloosa tonight.

Should go pretty well with a nice cold beer. :-)

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

Herman Cain Wins Straw Poll

Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 6:11pm.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/24/us-usa-campaign-winner-idUSTRE...

Yippee

You Didn't Build That.

Way to go Hermanator!

Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 6:41pm.

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

More data...Dave

Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 6:52pm.

http://secure.campaigner.com/Campaigner/Public/t.show?NdE3--9wMb-eH60S9

You Didn't Build That.

ucw,

Submitted by Dave. on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 5:33pm.

That's got to be bugging the repub establishment, as it appears their golden boy Mitt Rino is losing traction.

:-)

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

Noles got Smoked!

Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 7:24pm.

Thank God.

Now we won't have to hear about their National Championship calibre team.....at this point, they're not even ACC calibre.

GO GATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)

Yes Blonde*

Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 8:04pm.

And speaking of conferences lowering standards...I do NOT want to see Tx A&M allowed into the SEC. Then it won't be the SouthEAST Conference anymore. ...;-(

Agreed.

Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 8:13pm.

We are GREAT the way we are, don't need anyone else, but as always, it's all about the $$$.

Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)

Yes we are great but...

Submitted by Rukus on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 9:19am.

If I had my druthers and were going to get another one here... I wouldn't mind Southern Miss being in the SEC. Or even South Florida. I think either of those would mesh well with us and add to our greatness. Other than that, keep it the way it is.

ROLL TIDE!
GO DAWGS!
GO GATS!
GO SEC!

_____________________________________________________________ I'm not too drunk to dance! It's just that people keep stepping on my hands!

cajun

Submitted by Radical1979 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 8:26pm.

Argh, and the Big East is getting all messed up with the whole ACC thing. I'm not a happy Wildcat.

Proud member of the 53%!

Hi Ms Rad*

Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 8:38pm.

Sports getting as weird as politics...Im going expat...;-)

LSU,LSU

Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 10:26pm.

Second half started good, but we missed the FG

LSU 27 WV 7

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty

Another good day for the powers in the SEC

Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 10:31pm.

And ha ha ha about the Nolies, again (and scUM, too).

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Crap!

Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 10:36pm.

LSU's missed FG gave the Mountaineers some mo, they drove it down and scored a nice TD

LSU 27 WV 14

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty

WV coming back

Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:04pm.

Dominating the third quarter,,,,,,,,, wait, LSU returns the kick-off for a score.

LSU need to figure out the WV pass O

LSU 34 WV 21

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty

LSU starting to pull away

Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:27pm.

They went for 2, dont think we needed to do that.

LSU 40 WV 21

WV has got over 400 yrds passing on LSU's vaunted D. Mostly short ones, but wow.

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LSU putting a lid on it

Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:41pm.

With 3 min left

LSU 47 WV 21

Hard to believe WV has over 500 yrds of O, LSU can dominate in many ways as this game has shown. BTW I doubt WV will lose another game this year, they are very good.

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Congrats, Kitty Kats

Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:57pm.

Nice game, LSU, well done....that fog at the end of the game was quite cool. WV was no pushover, as that final score would have one believe who didn't see the game (and I only watched after the Gators game ended, impressive indeed).

You all should be ranked #1 next week....IMO, anyway.

Next few weeks will sort out the real from the pretenders. If we can't buy a Quarterback, we are going to be hurting. I think we can discount SC right now....it's you & the Bammers in the West and us in the East. (Sorry Dave).

GO GATORS!!!!

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It was a good one Blonde*

Submitted by cajun2 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:05am.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6IonaBM3Ko&feature=related

We will see Blonde

Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:54am.

Have those Gators played a ranked team yet? LSU has defeated 3 so far, all away from home. Bama does look better then most were expecting, I aint counting out Auburn either. In the East, not sure yet if you guys are up for SC. But the rest of that division is pretty sad by SEC standards.

LSU will trip up, they simply play to many quality teams, they are bound to boot one.

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I've just been readin' that

Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:32pm.

I've just been readin' that Boy Blahblah gave a speech at some Congressional Black Caucas function, and he was tellin' his peeps and homies to stop complainin', and stop cryin', and get behind him on his 'jobs bill'..............he was tellin' 'em to get motivatin' and gyratin' and signifyin' , and to start fightin' for their rights as 'blacks'......................seems that the 'blacks' are havin' a much higher unemployment number, as well as other social injustice problems..................sounds like he was really throwin' his fake jive-talkin' around in there - since the place was probably full of 'black' people. Only thing is - nobody else in there sounds anything like that when THEY talk!!!

I think he should give the same speech to the Congressional White Caucas - with the same psuedo-accent!!!

When they elect

Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:43pm.

Herman, then they will receive those jobs!

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Well, Herman Cain is

Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:54pm.

Well, Herman Cain is 'blacker' (by a long shot - he even has history in the American 'black' experience - something that Boy Blamegame can't claim), smarter, has more 'real-world' sense, funnier, and can speak better than Barama on any level!!!

Of course, if - by some chance - Cain is in the running..........watch the MSM try to tear him apart too, and it WON'T be 'racist'!!

Yep

Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:28am.

Herman can bring us all together though, just you watch. He dont make excuses, he dont talk down to folks, nor does he bad mouth anyone. Mr Cain is a Gentleman,

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I can't stand it when Barry

Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:36am.

I can't stand it when Barry says 'folks'.............because he says in in such a condascending tone - like he's talking about all of us nobodies who can't make it unless the government tells us how to run our lives. 'Folks' are upset...................'folks' are having a hard time..........'folks' are struggling. There is the ruling class.........and then there are the 'folks'.

Stop complaining, stop grumbling, stop crying.

Submitted by kata on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:47pm.

or he'll.... pull this Country over and give them something to cry about? Someone sounds grumpy...

Give Peas a Chance. ☑ ABØ in 2012

Did Obama ask

Submitted by mom_rox on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:37am.

That they get their Cousin Pookie ( sp?) off the couch?

Oh yea!!!

Submitted by GregE on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 11:59pm.

Government control over healthcare is going to be fantastic!
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-administration-ban-asthma-inha...

UH scores early against

Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:11am.

UH scores early against UC-Davis, over in Honolulu!! Of course, I didn't even know that UC-Davis was a college, much less that they had a football team!!!

That wan an ass stompin'!

Submitted by Rukus on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 10:30am.

Long hair and tattoo's will stomp pocket protectors and slide rules every time!

And the coolest war chant in college football!

_____________________________________________________________ I'm not too drunk to dance! It's just that people keep stepping on my hands!

Yeah.............I paid a lot

Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 2:56pm.

Yeah.............I paid a lot of money for that game, and I stopped watching it at half-time!!! There was a west coast game on that was more interesting. What I want to see is UH laying down the law of a GOOD team!!! They're capapble of it - but you never know when it will happen!!!

The Polynesian war chant is pretty good..........and authentic. I want you to know that there has been some complaints about it from the PC crowd - honest!!! And the UH mascot is a real character also - I think he's Samoan- you see him in his attire on the sidelines, usually with a bunch of other younger guys, and even boys, dressed up and painted up and beating on drums and generally going off!!!

Good surf this weekend!!!! The killa is killling it!!!

Everyone needs to know this!

Submitted by GregE on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 12:16am.

These people are out of their flippin minds. No actually, they know exactly what they are doing.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/2011/09/obamare-hhs-rule-wo...

And the ACLU -- you know,

Submitted by ThisnThat on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 9:54am.

And the ACLU -- you know, that "great defender of individual rights" -- remains silent on the continuing abuses of the o'bama administration. How predictable. This is BY FAR the most corrupt American government ever. Doing real damage to us all.

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The Magnetar Trade

Submitted by coin of the realm on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 2:50am.

Is the mostly unknown series of financial transactions that greatly exacerbated the financial meltdown and necessitated the trillions spent bailing out the many financial institutions that otherwise wouldn't have needed to be bailed out with our money.

Magnetar of course made a large fortune at our expense, without adding anything of productive value to the economy .

These are the things that need to be scrutinized and regulated, not to mention blame,ed for this mess. It serves no purpose to blame Obama or bush directly, but rather as referees of the game. No rules, no penalties, no controls and this is the result.

http://www.propublica.org/special/the-anatomy-of-the-magnetar-trade#http...

http://www.propublica.org/article/all-the-magnetar-trade-how-one-hedge-f...

Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes her laws. Mayer Amschel Rothschild

Run-back of the day!

Submitted by Rukus on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 9:30am.

Kinda what we need to do in 2012. Kick that ass! (Talk about using your blockers... wow!)

_____________________________________________________________ I'm not too drunk to dance! It's just that people keep stepping on my hands!

David Gregory

Submitted by bkeyser on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 10:24am.

mentioned once the possibility that because of Palestinian opposition, a two-state solution might not be possible. Yet the entire rest of the Meet the Press interview with Bibi Netanyahu was about trying to get him to say Obama is as strong a friend of Israel as GWB, and the expressed blame on Israel by Obama, Clinton, and others.

The Palestinians clearly will never accept anything known as Israel; it doesn't matter if it were located on Guam, Palestinians and Islam as a whole would set about destroying it by any means necessary. Yet somehow, even with that as a backdrop, Israel is to blame. If these people wanted to be logical, even if they refuse to be reasonable, they should blame the UN rather than Israel; it was the UN that created the state of Israel. The fact that certain Arab nations attacked, and subsequently lost ground as a result of their aggression, is the fault of the leaders of those Arab countries. The whole thing is bizarre.

Excellent Bob!

Submitted by Rukus on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 10:44am.

Tell it like it is brother! Palistine (no such country) will NEVER accept ANYTHING from Israel... EVER! I say stop funding them and let them deal with it. Funny thing, don't see any arab countries helping them like we do, hmmmmm...

_____________________________________________________________ I'm not too drunk to dance! It's just that people keep stepping on my hands!

Sheesh, My Falcon's are playing like crap

Submitted by Dave. on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 5:30pm.

Matt Ryan has now fumbled twice because our offensive line can't seem to block anybody.

If they don't tighten up, they are going to screw up my second perfect football weekend in a row.

-Dave

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Young Republican Club in Berkeley

Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 09/25/2011 - 8:01pm.

This is pretty funny....to call attention to yet another progressive stupid idea on the cusp of being passed into law, the young (R)-words had a bake sale, where they charged different prices, based on the buyer's gender/ethnicity.

OMO! The liberals are outraged.

Read it and laugh, it's pretty clever, and leaves me hope that not all young people are liberal twits.

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