NYT Editorial: GOP Caused Downgrade and 'Invited a Double-Dip Recession'
In the view of the New York Times, everything that ails our nation is caused by Republicans.
Consider Saturday's editorial disgracefully titled "Magical Unrealism: In the Iowa Debate, Republicans Fled From the Truth About the Damage Caused by Their Party":
There was nothing particularly surprising about the shrill skirmishing at the ideological edges of Thursday night's Republican presidential debate in Iowa. What was shocking were the antics in the center.
In full public view, the party's mainstream jumped the tracks of reality on issues of spending and taxes, brightly illustrating the ruinous magical thinking that has led to a downgrade of the nation's credit and invited a double-dip recession. When asked if they would reject a deal to cut the deficit that had 10 times the amount of spending cuts as it had tax increases, the hands of all eight candidates went up. Even a tincture of new revenue, though mixed with huge cuts in government spending, would be too much for the modern Republican Party.
That's correct. It would be too much - for two reasons.
First, what caused last week's downgrade by Standard and Poor's was the runaway spending of Democrats since they took over Congress in 2007 and the White House in 2009. A 41 percent increase in outlays over only four years as the nation is in a recession and thereby experiencing a revenue decline does not engender confidence from credit rating agencies.
A President in the wake of such recklessness offering a budget that further increases debt by almost ten trillion dollars in the next ten years similarly signals to such organizations that the White House doesn't give a rat's bum about the amount of red ink it's racking up. Ditto an entire political Party that for over two years has refused to even bother proposing a budget and has blocked both bills offered and passed by House Republicans that would have prevented a downgrade.
Consider too that if the deficit was actually a concern to the Democrats, they should have incorporated tax hikes into their spending increases.
For years, the Left and their media minions have pointed fingers at former President George W. Bush for starting wars and creating a Medicare prescription drug benefit that weren't "paid for."
The 41 percent explosion in spending since 2007 wasn't "paid for" either, but media outlets weren't at all concerned about such credit card usage when they were applauding the current president and the previous Speaker of the House for doing so.
Now that the bills are coming due, these same people are not only blaming those that voted against all these now failed Keynesian measures, they're also demanding a solution that guarantees such recklessness in the future.
For the GOP to now reward such atrocious behavior by the Democrats by giving them the tax hikes they always want would ensure a repeat of this tragic fiscal nightmare every time the Left wants to "raise revenues."
That the Times ignored all this would be criminal negligence in any other industry, but is now just par for the course in journalistic opinion making.
But also at play here is the devastation that would happen to the GOP if it yielded on this issue.
Today's Republicans remember full well what happened to George H.W. Bush when he went back on his "No New Taxes" campaign pledge.
Any GOP presidential candidate that repeats this mistake will almost definitely not become this Party's nominee, and if the last man - or woman - standing after this process does, fiscally-minded conservatives will stay home next November allowing Democrats to keep the White House and the Senate while possibly winning back the House.
The folks at the Times know this just as much as every candidate standing on that stage in Iowa Thursday evening, and they're going to continue to browbeat Republicans and Tea Partiers into submission on this tax issue until they either cave or a sufficient number of Americans buys into the dishonest claim that the Right really is entirely to blame for this mess.
As proof, consider the next to last sentence in this piece: "The Republican Party has been led into its current cul-de-sac by manipulative officials who would not tell voters the truth about the government's finances."
This coming from a newspaper that has been consistently and deceitfully misleading readers about this nation's budgets for decades.
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Got blame??? Here you go!!
Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 11:01am.
This says it all
Yep, MB.............we've got
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 2:43pm.
Yep, MB.............we've got Boy Blameshifter, the Blameshifter party, and the BlameStreamMedia.................and they've got their own Bermuda Triangle - the Blameshift Triangle - where anything that is good or sensical or useful or productive disappears.
The NYSlimes can't obviate
Submitted by eaglewingz08 on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 11:20am.
The NYSlimes can't obviate the fact that for all 2010 the dems had an overwhelming majority in Congress and up to Dece. 31, 2010 could have passed a clean debt ceiling increase or an increase with tax revenue provisions funded through January/February 2013, without the republicans being able to stop it. The democraps chose not to do so, for purely political reasons. They wanted to use the debt ceiling as a wedge issue against the newly elected tea partiers to force them to betray their principles within six months of taking office, in order to have them defeated in 2012 (like George HW Bush betrayed his no new taxes pledge in 1991 and was subsequently defeated). The tea partiers didn't fall for this gambit, and the President is now seen as the Emperor Without Clothes (empty suit).
The lap-dog NYTs once again
Submitted by rbosque on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 11:24am.
The lap-dog NYTs once again grovels at the feet of its master, the Left-wing DNC. The newspaper with a record of supporting an anti-American agenda.
So of we had proposed spending even more money...
Submitted by Red Jeep on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 11:28am.
...that we don't have and raising taxes, there would have no downgrade?
Uh...
Submitted by KyWriter on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 12:05pm.
...and this type of rancid comment from the NYT is surprising?
KyWriter---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 5:28pm.
Perfect word choice -"rancid".
Nice job.
MD
Wait...Little Debs (of the Wasserman Crime Family)
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 12:06pm.
....stated categorically, earlier this year (when the faux economic numbers made it appear that things were smoothing out a bit)...that the democrats and President Obama owned the economy.
PRESIDENT DOWNGRADE
PRESIDENT DOWNGRADE
PRESIDENT DOWNGRADE
All of the spin in the world isn't going to change the fact that this happened under THEIR watch.
PRESIDENT DOWNGRADE
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Exactly
Submitted by Galvanic on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 1:53pm.
The DNC Chair declared it herself. It's Obama's economy.
Actually, when I heard
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 2:46pm.
Actually, when I heard Whatshername-Shutup say that, I thought she was talking about the economy as it relates to government employees - since they seem to be doing pretty well. I don't think that she was including all of us 'little people' in her assessment of the economy - we've got our own crappy economy, and it's basically OUR fault!!!
All of the spin in the world
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 3:22pm.
All of the spin in the world isn't going to change the fact that this happened under THEIR watch.
But, if a tree falls in the woods and no one sees it ... did it happen. The non coverage will be deafening.
Bingo!!!
Submitted by NC Cop on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 3:31pm.
"The non coverage will be deafening."
If this happened on Bush's watch they would be screaminig it every 15 mins. on every network. You will barely hear anything of this from our one party media during the election.
Bingo Indeed!
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 3:50pm.
Bingo
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
A classic, Kingfish!!
Submitted by NC Cop on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 4:44pm.
LOL!!!!
NC Cop
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 5:10pm.
I saw that Bingo clip with Leslie Nielson about a month ago on television. Now, whenever I'm on a forum and someone answers "Bingo!", (which I am want to do myself), I can't help but think of that clip.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
The sound of one hand clapping
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 4:38pm.
...is kind of like that, Dan.
It is, however, a metaphor for what we voters are going to do to Obama & cohorts in 2012.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
You mean three bills
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 4:15pm.
that Harry the Grim Reaper tabled that passed in the house that would have kept S&P from downgrading the US, held up by libs had nothing to do with it?
Liars or Morons, someone pick.
One could say that The New York Times caused the Downgrade
Submitted by needle on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 5:26pm.
There was an opportunity for a "big deal," which could have avoided the Downgrade, but Obama blew it up by bargaining in bad faith, not the GOP.
The New York Times's role has been consistently to excuse and enable all of Obama's bad behavior.
Obama may be a Pathological Narcissist, but the enabling propaganda machine, headed by lying The New York Times, contributes significantly to making him such a dangerous menace.
- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.
The Big Deal
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 7:43pm.
The whole issue about saving our credit rating by having "The Big Deal" was a lie. Suppose they did do a big "compromise" deal that added an extra $300 billion per year over the next ten years in added taxes and added "cuts". The cuts would never have materialized, and the extra taxes would have resulted in an economy that is even more lousy then the one we have now, and our deficit would still be a trillion dollars a year.
We need to drastically cut federal government spending, and increase the tax rolls at the same time, by improving the economy. Repeal Obama Care, repeal Dodd/Frank, cut corporate income taxes, and stop the government from confiscating capital. Open up the country to development and give business a sense of stability, and our economy will boom.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
I agree completely
Submitted by needle on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 9:29pm.
I do not dispute any of your points; however, S&P indicated that they would probably refrain from downgrading, if the "deal" embraced $4T in cuts; they did not stipulate how authentic the cuts had to be. So that is the basis of my comment.
Indeed, I am sure S&P is used to such phoniness coming from DC, and is just simply attacking the problem from their point of view. At this point there is simply not enough leadership and backbone in DC to address the issues you enumerate. As tepid as the debt ceiling deal is, it practically caused widespread heart attacks among the reactionary DC elites
Man, does this ever make an incandescent argument for Term Limits!
- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.
Double Post
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 7:43pm.
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"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
A double-dip recession is not possible...
Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 6:38pm.
...until you have emerged from the first one.
And we haven't.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
I am just SHOCKED that the
Submitted by gopsteve on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 6:41pm.
I am just SHOCKED that the NYT would take an anti GOP stance, just shocked I tell ya!
They do not ever invite
Submitted by gopsteve on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 6:42pm.
They do not ever invite "comments." Just live in that NYT bubble, oblivious to the world outside.
The slimes is going all out
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 8:07pm.
They know their relevancy is dwindling at rapid rate.
Your too late you sorry hacks!
yeahhhhh
Submitted by donabernathy on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 8:50pm.
a budget hasn't been passed in over 2 years ... it's all those nasty tea party people's fault.. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha....
I love know'n how all those poor saps that lived under the thumb of the Soviet Union felt when they watched the news and read Pravda....... I't never occurred to me that they was laugh'n all day long...
roflmao
Where was Obamna?
Submitted by desert3030 on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:26pm.
He said he would veto anything without a tax increase. Did he tell us a tall tale? Or was his blufff called? AND HE WALKED AWAY FROM THE INCREASE PROPOSED!
He dont care,
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:33pm.
He is too busy partying like it's 1999
Unbelievable
Submitted by hayate1 on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:59pm.
The rancor here. Truth is just not important. Finding any reason, whether founded or unfounded, to attack Obama and Democrats is the driving force of this site. Sure, the media has issues across the board, but it is one thing to point out misstatement of fact or misrepresentations of what leaders say, it is quite another to fight fire with fire. The use of theories and ideologies as the factual basis for arguments is just plain wrong. If the realities conform to what the theories claim than great, mention the theory and cement it as valid with reality. If reality partially supports or is at odds with the theory, then editing reality to fit the theory doesn't make it fact. it makes it propaganda.
The argument that the GOP is to blame for the downgrade is supportable by facts. Facts like the policies and actions undertaken by them are causal in nature. The dems also are to blame since they have supported, tacitly or overtly, those policies. To claim that it is Democratic/liberal/Obama policies that are to blame is an argument that can be made. Made with data and facts, not sweeping, ideological labels and comparisons. What liberal policies, exactly, has the President and congress implemented that are causal to this mess? Better question is, what are the policies, irrespective of their ideological affiliation, that are causal? What have the responses been? What has been the effect of those actions? What are the historical lessons we can call on for this type of circumstance? Then, who did what and what is the ideological philosophy driving those actions? Is the theory wrong or at odds with the real world results? If yes, then refine and adjust. This is thee hallmark of intelligence, the ability to learn. It does require an open mind and a willingness to admit mistakes. Unfortunately, these key characteristics necessary for fixing problems by correcting mistakes are absent in people driven only by ideology or political loyalty.
Quick examples. Calling Obama a liberal or socialist is using ideology as if it was fact. It is then easy to argue that liberal polices are to blame bc Obama is liberal. You then can argue that we need more conservative policies which create growth and jobs like tax cuts and free markets. Again, those are theoretical notions, not facts. In fact, those notions are at odds with reality.
First reality is that Obama is not a liberal by the terms definition. He is conservative by the terms defining characteristics as used today. Not only has he extended the Bush tax cuts but he has cut taxes many times on top of that. He hasn't engaged in any significant anti-free market actions as things are basically the same as they have been. Therefore, given that the policy actions and positions of Obama are basically the same as Bush it can be said that those policies--low taxes, freemarkets and corporate bailouts--dont work. So how then can doubling down on tax cuts and free market measures be the fix?
"Facts are not decided by how many people believe them. Truth is not determined by how loudly it is shouted."
You're right.
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 10:09pm.
You used the correct word, unbelievable. That's exactly what your dissertation you wrote is, unbelievable.
-Jon
I just read this
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 10:32pm.
I just read this gobbledegook............it's kind of like reading some upper-level high-school term paper that is long on words, phrases, declarations, and psuedo-intelligence.........and short on any kind of common sense. The guy could have saved himself a lot of energy and time by just calling us names.
Random Rant Generator
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 11:16pm.
Here's a Link. It's easy and fun.
I know surprisingly little about Hayate1. I know nothing about his background or lineage. I do not know where Hayate1 was educated or what he has done besides condemn children to a life of drugs, gangs, drinking, rape, incest, verbal abuse, physical abuse, and a number of other horrors. Nevertheless, I can tell you all that you need to know about him. I assume you already know that he is positing a "valid" logic devoid of empirical content (i.e., devoid of facts) so let me begin this letter by remarking that his methods of interpretation are the direct result of a policy of abandonment and neglect. He may mean well, but the biggest supporters of his boisterous précis are chthonic, doctrinaire sewer rats and vulgar scatterbrains. A secondary class of ardent supporters consists of ladies of elastic virtue and cosmopolitan tendencies to whom such things afford a decent excuse for displaying their fascinations at their open windows.
Hayate1 extricates himself from difficulty by intrigue, by chicanery, by dissimulation, by trimming, by an untruth, by an injustice. His hatchet men often reverse the normal process of interpretation. That is, they value the unsaid over the said, the obscure over the clear. Accordingly, I myself have a New Year's resolution for Hayate1: He should pick up a book before he jumps to the infantile conclusion that he can lead us, lemminglike, over the precipice of self-destruction and get away with it. I never used to be particularly concerned about his teachings. Any damned fool, or so I thought, could see that either he has no real conception of the sweep of history, or he is merely intent on winning some debating pin by trying to pierce a hole in my logic with "facts" that are taken out of context.
As I see it, Hayate1 has somehow made up his mind that mediocrity is a worthwhile goal. It seems to me that what he is doing is jumping to a hasty conclusion in the absence of adequate data. A more reasoned analysis would reveal that Hayate1 seeks scapegoats for his own shortcomings by blaming the easiest target he can find, that is, the most petulant sluggards I've ever seen. I don't mean to throw fuel on an already considerable fire, but he may unwittingly hoodoo us. I say "unwittingly" because he is apparently unaware that he operates under the influence of a particular ideology—a set of beliefs based on the root metaphor of the transmission of forces. Until you understand this root metaphor you won't be able to grasp why it strikes me as amusing that Hayate1 complains about people who do nothing but complain. Well, news flash! He does nothing but complain.
Hayate1 will probably never understand why he scares me so much. And he decidedly does scare me: His traducements are scary, his tricks are scary, and most of all, my only wonder is, Why doesn't he try doing something constructive for once in his life? Fortunately for us, the key to the answer is obvious: He craves more power. I say we should give Hayate1 more power—preferably, 10,000 volts of it.
Hayate1's manuscripts are eerily similar to those promoted by madmen such as Pol Pot. What's scary, though, is that their extollment of Trotskyism has been ratcheted up a few notches from anything Pol Pot ever conjured up. Faith is harder to shake than knowledge, love succumbs less to change than respect, hate is more enduring than aversion, and Hayate1 says that everyone would be a lot safer if he were to monitor all of our personal communications and financial transactions—even our library records. Why on Earth does Hayate1 need to monitor our library records? The answer is rather depressing, but I'll tell you anyway. The answer begins with the observation that I doubtlessly dislike Hayate1. Likes or dislikes, however, are irrelevant to observed facts, such as that Hayate1's disciples have the temerity to use "pressure tactics"—that's a euphemism for "torture"—to coerce ordinary people into selling quack pharmaceutical supplies (and you should be suspicious whenever you hear such telltale words and phrases as "breakthrough", "miracle", "secret remedy", "exclusive", and "clinical studies prove that...") and then say that everyone else should do the same. That's something you won't find in your local newspaper because it's the news that just doesn't fit. As a final, parting thought, I assert that we must ask the tough questions and not shy away from the tough answers. This is a long road and not one for the fainthearted, but if pursued with integrity and conviction it could lead to a world in which people are no longer afraid to point out the glaring contradiction between Hayate1's idealized view of ageism and reality.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
Fine post, Kingfish---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:17am.
interesting and illuminating.
MD
Wow, Kingfish, this is stellar
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 2:06pm.
Miss Hayate R Trolling likes the sound of her own voice, but that's not the point of this letter. The point is that you can chalk up incidents such as the ones I've described to the self-centered, obscene nature of Miss Trolling's animadversions. But first, I'm going to jump ahead a bit and talk in general terms about how Miss Trolling is intellectually dishonest in everything she says and does. Then, I'll back up and fill in some of the details. Okay, so to start with the general stuff, Miss Trolling is a hard worker. She works hard to prevent anyone from commenting on her self-indulgent, ostentatious anecdotes. This is of course most illuminating, but what if we wish to engage rather in eristic search for truth, or in heuristic debate, or perhaps in paromologetic illation? In my experience, if we foreground the cognitive and emotional palette of Miss Trolling's evil codices rather than their pathology we can enter vitally into her world. Why do we want to do that? Because Miss Trolling should learn to appreciate what she has instead of feeling so oppressed because she can't do everything she wants every time she wants to.
I don't know which are worse, right-wing tyrants or left-wing tyrants. But I do know that Miss Trolling is good at stirring her coadjutors into a frenzied lunacy of hatred and vengeance. Doing so blinds them to the fact that I hate it when people get their facts wrong. For instance, whenever I hear some corporate fat cat make noises about how arriving at a true state of comprehension is too difficult and/or time-consuming, I can't help but think that we were put on this planet to be active, to struggle, and to shape a world of dignity and harmony, a world of justice, solidarity, liberty, and prosperity. We were not put here to incite racial hatred, as Miss Trolling might think.
The baneful nature of Miss Trolling's expositions is not just a rumor. It is a fact to which I can testify. It should come as no big shock to anyone that Miss Trolling says that we should abandon the institutionalized and revered concept of democracy. If that's the limit of Miss Trolling's perception, acumen, and intelligence, then God help her.
Someone has been giving Miss Trolling's brain a very thorough washing, and now Miss Trolling is trying to do the same to us. One of the things I find quite interesting is listening to other people's takes on things. For instance, I recently overheard some folks remark that she has a glib proficiency with words and very sensitive nostrils. Miss Trolling can smell money in your pocket from a block away. Once that delicious aroma reaches her nostrils, she'll start talking about the joy of metagrobolism and how representative government is an outmoded system that should be replaced by a system of overt statism. As you listen to Miss Trolling's sing-song, chances are you won't even notice her hand as it goes into your pocket. Only later, after you realize you've been robbed, will you truly understand that she managed to convince a bunch of ethically bankrupt effrontive-types to help her abet ethnic genocide, dictatorships, and macabre heresiarchs. What was the quid pro quo there? I've never really gotten a clear and honest answer to that question from Miss Trolling. But what is clear is that she really shouldn't consign our traditional values to the rubbish heap of voyeurism. That's just plain common sense. Of course, the people who appreciate her rodomontades are those who eagerly root up common sense, prominently hold it out, and decry it as poison with astonishing alacrity.
Maybe in a lustrum or two, Miss Trolling will break our country's national and patriotic backbone and make it ripe for the slave's yoke of international vigilantism. Jealous predictions aside, this would not be an impossible scenario if her sordid generalizations were to gain ascendancy in our society. There is a format she should follow for her next literary endeavor. It involves a topic sentence and supporting facts. In closing this letter, let me point out that I would be remiss if I didn't remind you that the only way for Miss Hayate R Trolling to redeem herself is to stop being so repulsive.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Well Spoken
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 4:01pm.
....and with so little effort!
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
Blonde and Kingfish*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 5:00pm.
**Applause**
The NY Times would pay real money to have you two on staff. Better than any they have now....;-)
Already complimented Kingfish, but day-um, Blonde---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 8:00pm.
you had me scrambling for my dictionary.
I love that post of yours.
Berry good, indeed.
MD
Here's some reality for ya - hayte1 (or is it Hater 1) ACA
Submitted by acaiguana on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:02am.
The first reality is that Obama is the most Liberal President we have ever endured in these United States of America.
He is a pure ideologue. If you are as interested as you appear in understand ideology over facts; a study of this Narcissist is essential to a full education thereto.
He has engaged in a number of free market actions which are intended to reduce the ability of the market to respond to the needs of civilization as we enjoy it here in our country (that would be the USA and not, for example, Cuba).
To wit: Oil drilling moratoriums, Coal Fired Electrical Plant moratoriums and standards leading to closure of same; Cap and Trade regulations by the EPA which circumvent Congress' will and are designed to limit the use of carbon based fuels in the United States which is totally dependent on carbon based fuels for its economy; its standard of living (heat/cooling) and its jobs.
His undying loyalty to Public Sector Unions which promote inefficiencies in our inefficient and bloated government. When firefighters, police and teachers have the right to strike; society is insecure and weak. If people want these jobs they should accept the fact that public service requires a sacrifice of the so-called but non-existent right to unionize.
His refusal to enforce legitimate Federal statues such as the Voting Rights Act and further to disobey Federal Judge Court Orders in the case of the Gulf Oil Moratorium and regulatory stranglehold placed on drilling after the spill. His refusal to enforce the No Child Left Behind Act with imaginary wavers which are not allowed for in the law.
His demand that citizens pay for a good or service in the marketplace for something which they do not want to purchase. Once this becomes constitutional (and I hope I never see that day) then the government can force you to buy anything it desires you to buy from cars to clothes.
The continuing incremental march of socialist reality from policies that hide reality from view by claims that the 'children' or 'health' or some other sham like AGW that has marked the Democrats for 50 years.
It is time for the final reality.
Nothing less than the utter destruction of the Democrat Party will do. Nothing less than relegating this morass of stench upon our body politic to a cremated grave will do. I will not rest until the Democrats defeated and buried under the dung hill of historical rewriting they have attempted upon our people.
The lesson of the USSR was that one can only steal everything one time. That was the only lesson. Learn it. Live by it.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
Yooo Hooo! Over Here!!!!
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 2:02pm.
Perhaps you missed it last week....NewsBusters 6th Birthday? So who was President when NB was started? Riiiiight. That would be the evil George Boooosh.
So your little 39 week whine of nOObiness has absolutely no basis in fact.
Take your DKos talking points and seek life elsewhere. If someone else wants to take a stab at debunking your talking point blather, they are more than welcome to have at them.
We need a better class of troll, here. ©
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
hayate1, you riot, you
Submitted by MrShy on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 2:16pm.
"If reality partially supports or is at odds with the theory, then editing reality to fit the theory doesn't make it fact. It makes it propaganda."
A liberal who just peddled the propaganda of all propaganda, which just about all shameless liberals are doing now -- that Obama is more a conservative than a liberal -- is lecturing conservatives on (put aside your drinks and make sure you've gulped down).... propaganda.
- Shy on Vinyl
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Nothing, and I do mean nothing---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 08/13/2011 - 10:52pm.
that I have ever seen posted by hayate1, makes even a cursory high speed drive-by within miles of facts or truth.
All his posts are liberal BS talking garbage, totally, and completely.
MD
Did you actually read the report?
Submitted by hayate1 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 4:16am.
Bc it seems that the S&P downgrade was due to the GOP and it's intransigence on new revenue and it's reckless threats to allow default if their terms are not met.
That is what the S&P said in their rational for the downgrade. The NYT just reported it.
http://www.standardandpoors.com/servlet/BlobServer?blobheadername3=MDT-T...
"Facts are not decided by how many people believe them. Truth is not determined by how loudly it is shouted."
That is an out and out lie, hayate ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 5:40am.
the report mentions political brinkmanship as an instability factor; it does NOT point the finger of blame at Republicans for being intransigent.
I know it is your desire to come across as deeply cerebral, but so long as you continue to spell what is apparently your favorite word, 'rationale', "as rational", you ain't makin' it.
Besides, even if you wuz uh champeen speller feller, your appellation as "the flower of your family'" would still hold.
You're a blooming idiot.
MD