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Fareed Zakaria Blames Tea Party For Debt Ceiling 'Sideshow'

By Noel Sheppard | July 22, 2011 | 10:55

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CNN's Fareed Zakaria Thursday called the debt ceiling battle a "sideshow" caused by the Tea Party.

Appearing on "In the Arena" as a supposed "astute observer of the economy," Zakaria proceeded to bungle economic and historic facts like a high school dropout (video follows with transcript and commentary):

TOM FOREMAN, HOST: We asked Fareed Zakaria, an astute observer of the economy and what he calls are dysfunction of politics, to talk it over a little while ago.

Astute observer of the economy? Watch how astute Zakaria is:

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

FOREMAN: Fareed, we've been hearing so much about what will go wrong if the debt ceiling is broken. And yet I feel this rising current of people saying, make no mistake about it. Even if we solve this, there are going to be some hard times for this country as a result of the solution.

FAREED ZAKARIA, HOST, FAREED ZAKARIA GPS: Well, the debt ceiling itself is almost a -- you know a sideshow. The fact that it has become center stage is just because, you know, one group, the Tea Party, within the Republican Party, decided to make it that. This -- the debt ceiling simply reflects the fact that we are spending more than we take in.

Correct. But that inconvenient truth isn't necessarily just something the Tea Party is concerned with. Here's what Senator Barack Obama said in March 2006:

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can't pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

Our total debt was $8.3 trillion. Now it's 14.3 trillion, a staggering 72 percent rise in a little over five years.

If Americans deserved better when the debt was $8.3 trillion, don't they even more $6 trillion later?

Not surprisingly, Zakaria ignored this little bit of history:

FOREMAN: And then we have an economy in shambles right now all over the country.

ZAKARIA: And that we don't have growth. The only way you're going to get this economy back on track, Tom, is if you get growth. If you look historically, the times that the budget deficit has gone from being a number one concern to moving down when we've solved the problem, it's all been that we grew faster than we thought we would.

Amazing idiocy. As NewsBusters reported in March, arguably the two strongest economic decades in the 20th century occurred when the federal government was intensely focused on slowing spending.

The '20s was by far the strongest economic decade in recent memory and was accompanied by a 48 percent decline in federal outlays. Please remember this, for Zakaria referred to that decade later in the program very much contradicting himself.

But before we get there, the '90s was also a strong economic decade that saw federal spending rise roughly at the rate of inflation creating the first so-called budget surpluses in years.

The primary focus of the new Republican Congress in 1995 was to slow the growth of government.

With the examples of the '20s and the '90s, Zakaria going on national television claiming the economy solves budget deficits and not fiscal restraint is absurd.

But he was just getting warmed up:

ZAKARAI: If you can get growth back, if we can get people employed, get them paying taxes, you can't cut your way to a happy future because the more you cut, you get yourself into a downward spiral like you see in Greece.

You know you -- because what does it mean to cut government spending? It means to lay off people who now don't have jobs. They can't pay taxes, they can't go to the diner, they can't buy stuff. So it may work in theory, but in practice, the more you cut, the more you're depressing the economy.

FOREMAN: One of the predictions I've read is that the solution to the debt ceiling problem could cost us a million jobs over the next few years. We could lose, you know, what we've created in a very short period of time.

Do you think that's too dire? Do you think that's possible?

ZAKARIA: It depends on how much we cut and how fast we do. I think what President Obama has been trying to do -- again, I think, quite wisely -- is push some of these cuts off into the future. When you signal to the markets we're getting our budget deficit under control but don't do it in an economy that is fragile right now.

But if we were to precipitously start laying off wholesale school teachers, firemen, policemen, then, yes, because all of a sudden you have fewer people paying taxes, you have fewer people buying goods, you have fewer people buying products.

Not surprisingly, Zakaria was parroting the Paul Krugman/Robert Reich employment philosophy: the more people government employs, the more people you have paying taxes and the easier it is to balance the budget. However, every person the government employs increases the deficit.

Let's say the federal government hires someone at $50,000 per year. Assume that between federal income taxes and payroll taxes, the government receives $10,000. Its therefore paid $50,000 to earn $10,000.

Sound like a good plan to you?

If government simply hiring everyone solved the problem, the Soviet Union would still be around today.

But math isn't Zakaria's strong point. Neither is his recollection of history:

ZAKARIA: We really need to look at what's happening in Europe. The governments that cut too fast too far actually depressed their GDP growth and increased their budget deficits as a result.

FOREMAN: Talk to me about some of these key building blocks that have to be restored. I have had many conversations over months where people have said, if we do not restore the value of housing in this country and the construction market, nothing else we do will solve this.

Is that a fair building block to begin with?

ZAKARIA: I think it's absolutely fair. The problem is it is the most difficult building block to restore because housing went through probably the biggest bubble since the 1920s.

That deserves repeating: "Housing went through probably the biggest bubble since the 1920s."

Yep. And as previously noted, federal spending declined 48 percent that decade as taxes came down.

Maybe if America tried doing that now rather than the failed Roosevelt-Keynesian policies Zakaria and his colleagues adore we'd right this ship like Presidents Harding and Coolidge did before most of us were born.

(HT RCP)

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Fun w/ numbers...

Submitted by Gary Hall on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 11:15am.

Noel says:

  • Let's say the federal government hires someone at $50,000 per year. Assume that between federal income taxes and payroll taxes, the government receives $10,000. It's therefore paid $50,000 to earn $10,000.

The Feds can hire someone for only $50K? OK, so we're leaving out health insurance and pension costs.

The catchy thing (22) is: the $50,000 all (well, what's not borrowed) came from tax revenue collected from the private sector. Government EE's are paid from that money. The fact that perhaps that $10,000 get's put back into the same slush fund, time and time again -- is not creating the revenue that pays the government payroll.

The government's not really earning anything at all.

Fareed's got no place to hide.

Great post Noel - isn't Fareed fun?

(;~> gary

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That's all true,

Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 12:53pm.

That's all true, Gary..........I've got a brother who, along with his wife, both work for the government - which isn't really an issue to me - but they are both serious libs and were huge Bush haters, and are huge Obama lovers!! Hell, they even had a calender of Boy Blunder in their house, the last time I was there (I usually stay with my son and my grandson, so I haven't been inside their house in a while).

But they can sit there and gripe about the taxes they pay, and the cost of living , and evil big Oil and big business and dirty profits and bla bla bla - I've heard it all - while they've got FOUR vehicles (one from the Kash for Klunkers scam), COLA adjustements, paid vacations (of which I've never had ONE in my entire life!!!), lots of traveling and vacations (did I mention their griping about 'global warming'??), kids through college, rental income property, etc. etc. And I actually heard my sister-in-law say once that working for the government during tough times was a good thing, because you kept your job and got paid, while so many other people were having a hard time because of the econmy!!! Of course, I also heard her say, at the inception of the Iraqi War, that it was a 'resume' enhancer for up and coming Democrat politicians - whatever that meant!!!

But if you want to see a conversation turn nasty - just let me bring up the fact that, not only is their salary and benefit and retirement package a result of government borrowing and printing, but also from confiscated tax dollars from the private sector, of which I am one. They do NOT want to hear about it, and, in fact, are actually delusional towards the truth of the statement, which only makes it worse.

I think I've made one step forward - at least with the 'global warming' issue. My sister-in-law flies all the time to Asia and Alaska on the government's dime - and she drives a big FOREIGN SUV - and I think it's backed her off from trying to spew any 'global warming' crap to me.

I haven't asked them about Obama lately - but I know that both of their daughters have graduated from college, and neither one of them can find any kind of job............

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And I should care what an Indian Muslim thinks...

Submitted by Red Jeep on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 11:16am.

...about the U. S. economy, because...?!?! ...He has a PhD in Philosophy?!? ...what?

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Why doesn't somebody ask this

Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 12:35pm.

Why doesn't somebody ask this dope what kind of 'sideshow' his Mooooooooooooooooooooooslem brothers have been causing in Mumbai???

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I thought he had been

Submitted by ricklail on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 11:16am.

I thought he had been replaced by Al. Businesses are not going to hire until 0bama is gone. That is what most are saying.

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Tom Forman & Fareed Zacharia - Restore home prices?

Submitted by Gary Hall on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 11:28am.

  • FOREMAN: Talk to me about some of these key building blocks that have to be restored. I have had many conversations over months where people have said, if we do not restore the value of housing in this country and the construction market, nothing else we do will solve this.

Restore? Restore to what?

First, housing prices will have to go down and settle out in an historic range before real growth can be realized again - and the bottom is still a long ways away.

  • A History of Home Values - Yale economist, Robert Shiller:

The Democrats  (Clinton, Cuomo, Frank, etc.) created the housing bubble and they provided the fuel that fed it (yes, and plenty others hopped on that bandwagon as it grew into a bubble). Now they've got to wait for the remainder of the correction. And, even that can only be as good as history can allow, and only if the US can develop a deeper entrenched economic machine. Shiller's chart may be too optimistic.

(;~/ gary

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Apparently not their market value

Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 1:17pm.

After deliberate Federal government manipulation of the housing market through advocacy of no-down payment ARM loans to people who should never have been in the market, Washington intervened once more to prop up the falling home values and preventing them from reaching their proper market value.

As long as the government interferes with the housing market, it will be unpredictable and a dangerous investment.

The same goes for the auto industry, agriculture, etc.

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Galv . . . galvanizing the unerstanding

Submitted by Gary Hall on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 2:26pm.

Yep. And, you did click on the second link -- HUD - that I provided above?

Pushing (ordering - regulating ) tens of millions of poor minorities into buying homes for the first time. Fannie had a strategic marketing alliance with Countrywide Financial, signed in 1999 -- and by the end of 2000 Countrywide was the national biggest lender to minorities. Duh.. And then, having the community organizing groups - ACORN, etc - all ready to inform the poor minorities of what "their government" was ready to do for them.

And here we are -- still reeling from it. And here we are, with the Democrats and the MSM (and Fareed) blaming Bush on it.

There - it's been Galvanized.

(;~> gary

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Weak theory gone awry

Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 9:50pm.

In their own little minds, the quickest way to get families into the middle class was to make them homeowners, so they forced it. But the people pushing this were lawyers, not economists; what they failed to grasp was Economics 101. As soon as the economy took a downturn, the first new homeowners couldn't pay their mortgages, couldn't sell because their homes had devalued, and as they defaulted on their mortgages, the whole house of cards collapsed.

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I will take some of that blame

Submitted by CarolinaJimbo on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 11:37am.

But I think the term should be "credited" not "blamed."

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We're simply being overrun by

Submitted by wahappened on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 11:56am.

We're simply being overrun by short-sighted ignoramuses that see the symptoms as the problem. Hey Fareed, the problem in Greece isn't the cuts. It's what has led them to HAVE TO CUT!!! AAAGGGHHHH!!!!
There are to many of them...they just keep pouring over the walls.
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Achmed is back

Submitted by hbnolikeee on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 12:06pm.

Achmed

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The liberal media continues to press the theme

Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 12:13pm.

That the Tea Party is the "extreme, kook fringe". Look at the language they use for Allen West, Sarah Palin, etc.

The thing is, there are many ordinary Americans, who have been studiously disinterested in politics, for most of their adult lives. But when they comprehend the magnitude of what this government has done by mortgaging our future, and more importantly our childrens' futures, they have now become involved.

Yet here is the media, calling them "nut jobs" and worse for caring about what happens to this country, for voting with their feet and at their polling places. Compounding the insult is the media's outright lying and shilling for Obama, showing "fake" polls (adults instead of likely voters), and mis-reporting the issues.

The political junkies like those of us here need to press the advantage. We need to inform our formerly uninterested friends and co-workers what the media agenda is. When discussing issues with them, ask them what news they watch. Then state some facts, and ask them how that was reported on "their" networks. Get them to think critically about what is being said about these issues (the lies and left wing framing of the issues), and pretty soon you'll have another information warrior.

People don't like being lied to. It's up to us to expose the media's culpability....selling the false clamor for "compromise" whilst sowing, watering, and fertilizing the seeds of political discord.

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Yep, Blonde .. it's the Tea Party

Submitted by Gary Hall on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 12:27pm.

It's the Tea Party (where 66% of the country agrees with their version of addressing the national debt) that are the radical cultists; it's not the folks at MoveOn.org, Daily Kos, MSNBC, Current TV, National Council of La Raza, Southern Poverty Law Center, NPR, ACORN, New Black Panthers, Louis Farrakhan's crowd, Rev Wright, Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinich, Cynthia McKinney, Bill Moyers, Bill Maher, etc.

Yep, the MSM's got it pegged, alrighty.

(;~/ gary

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Exactly, Gary

Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 12:37pm.

And many in the Tea Party (the formerly politically disinterested) are kind of like ex-smokers. Hard core. Particularly once they understand the extent to which the media has misled them.

That the media continues "peg" it, as you put it, is beyond me.

I'm listening to Mark Steyn...he just made an excellent point, and it applies here. Blockbuster went out of business because they were operating on a 1980's business model. The federal government is using a 1930's model (Social Security), and the media is still stuck in the 80's....back when there was no way for the ordinary person to fact check them easily.

Yet today the dinosaur media continues to try to shape the agenda with lies of omission and worse....yet they expect to be "trusted", a la Uncle Walter, when all the world can see their blatant liberal activism at the click of a mouse.

This Emperor (MsM) has no clothes, and is too stupid to know it's naked.

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Not the only one

Submitted by Anneke9 on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 3:27pm.

... called the debt ceiling battle a "sideshow" caused by the Tea Party.

Bill O'Reilly's been doing the same thing.

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Badge of Honor

Submitted by HardRightTurn on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 3:30pm.

Being blamed by the left stream media for doing the right thing is a badge of honor to be worn proudly.

You might have a right to, but you have no business voting on how to spend other people's money if you do not pay federal income tax. Do the decent thing and just don't go to the polls.

To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html

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Voting

Submitted by Model850 on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 3:36pm.

As someone said, "When you rob Peter to pay Paul you will always get Paul's vote."

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............And I blame CNN

Submitted by djwolf12 on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 6:32pm.

for putting this turd-that-looks-human on TV.

"Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets". - Robert DeNiro, Taxi Driver (1976).
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Fareed Zakaria is an ignorant moron.

Submitted by Free Stinker on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 9:09pm.

Fareed Zakaria is an ignorant moron.*

 

Now, what stupid things has he said today?  ;-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

* - We're talking dumber than a box full of Joe Biden, Paris Hilton, and Meghan McCain

 

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Zakaria blames the Tea Party -- I credit the Tea Party

Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 07/22/2011 - 10:11pm.

The Tea Parties have brought this to a head when the Democrats and dinosaur Republicans would've just kicked the can down the road again. For people who were dismissed as a fly-by-night fringe group, they're having a big impact.

The Democrats -- with some willing help from the MSM -- have been trying to split the independents and wobbly Republicans from the Tea Party Republicans since 2010.  They probably figure that if the Debt Ceiling is raised, angry Tea Partiers will vote out long-standing Republicans and vote in "extreme right wingers," leaving opening up opportunities for 'fiscally responsible' Democratic challengers.

But it could back fire.

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