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By Noel Sheppard | June 05, 2011 | 09:31

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New York Times columnist Paul Krugman demonstrated perfectly Friday evening the double-talk required from America's left to convince the public Medicare is fine despite recent warnings by its Trustees that it will go bankrupt in thirteen years without major changes.

In his blog posting at the Times website, the Nobel laureate insisted the senior health insurance program "is sustainable in its current form" - as long as changes are made to what it covers, that is:

What is true is that the U.S. Medicare is expensive compared with, say, Canadian Medicare (yes, that’s what they call their system) or the French health care system (which is complicated, but largely single-payer in its essentials); that’s because Medicare American-style is very open-ended, reluctant to say no to paying for medically dubious procedures, and also fails to make use of its pricing power over drugs and other items.

So Medicare will have to start saying no; it will have to provide incentives to move away from fee for service, and so on and so forth. But such changes would not mean a fundamental change in the way Medicare works.

Got that?

It's sustainable in its current form - as long as it stops "paying for medically dubious procedures."

The problem is no one knows what those "medically dubious procedures" are, and once you go down this road with a program going under in thirteen years, many of these procedures that will be depicted "dubious" may be not so in the minds of the medical community and the public.

You'll therefore have a board of bureaucrats making coverage decisions for largely financial reasons that impact what Jane and Jane Q. Senior receives.

Sound like a fundamental change to you?

Unfortunately, what most Americans that aren't currently seniors don't know - as well as the overwhelming majority of the Medicare-loving press! - is that there already are things Medicare doesn't cover. As the following Medicare primer from the government states, this includes things like long-term care, hearing aids, routine dental care, etc.

Beyond this, on some procedures, Medicare only covers 80 percent of the cost requiring seniors to pay for the other 20 percent. This is why the vast majority of seniors - once again without the knowledge of America's know-it-all media - purchase what's called Medicare Supplemental Insurance:

As you may know, Medicare insurance will cover up to 80% of certain types of medical treatments, doctors office visits, hospitalizations, medical equipment and more. The exact coverage will depend on if you have just Medicare Part A or if you also have the optional Medicare Part B Coverage.

Even with this coverage, many people are left to pay significant out-of-pocket costs to cover the remaining 20 percent of the price of their services which is also referred to as the co-payment amount. Many people simply cannot afford to pay the co-payment in cash so they make use of one of the many Medicare supplemental insurance policies available on the market. A policy may be managed by one of many companies, but all fall under the guidelines of Medicare.

As such, private insurance companies currently offer policies to seniors to cover the gaps in what Medicare doesn't. This is a tremendously competitve market throughout the country offering seniors all kinds of packages at all kinds of costs.

This is important for a number of reasons.

First, as most media members are unaware of this, they tend to mislead the working age public into thinking Medicare covers all their health and medical expenses once they retire. This is not the case.

Furthermore, as there are things Medicare doesn't cover, using Krugman's "dubious procedure" model and a program going bankrupt, one can certainly envision a growing list of things Medicare A and B won't cover meaning more out-of-pocket costs to the aged consumer.

Also important is the idea that private insurance companies are indeed integrally involved in the health coverage of America's seniors, and are eager to be so because it's profitable.

One of the consistent media attacks on Congressman Paul Ryan's (R-Wisc.) Medicare reform plan is that giving seniors money each year to buy their own insurance won't work because private companies aren't interested in covering seniors.

Nothing could be further from the truth. We currently have at least three different senior health care programs covered by private insurers - prescription drugs, Medicare Supplements, and long-term care - that are operating with great competition producing numerous choices for the aged consumer.

Our recent experience with Medicare Part D - prescription drugs - has shown that involving private insurers in offering coverage to seniors can be quite successful as the premiums for this program are currently lower than what was anticipated when the plan was first proposed, and the actual cost to the federal government has so far come in under budget.

Imagine that.

Despite the predictable inflammatory hyperbole coming from Democrats and their ill-informed media minions, America's soon-to-be seniors should not only not fear private insurance company involvement in their future Medicare coverage, they should relish it because all the current examples of such participation are working just fine.

(H/T Hot Air)

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Liberal logic 101

Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 9:56am.

Medicare is sustainable in its current form, as long as we change its current form.

He's basically talking about changing the current form to a new form which will then be the "current current form" as opposed to the "previous current form" and then (now) it will be (is) fine.

Here comes another Nobel prize for Krugman!

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I don't think it appropriate to find humor in your post

Submitted by nonncom on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 10:15am.

but I can't help laughing....Krugman is the ultimate voice for the progressive agenda....he has never quite mastered the art of calling a spade a spade, however....hmmmm....is that saying still appropriate considering the current POTUS?.....just sayin'.....I guess I never quite mastered the art of being PC....until the dems actually step up and offer an alternative to Ryan's plan, all their talk is merely a smokescreen....God help us and please let Americans see these jerks for exactly what they are....

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Death Panels.

Submitted by ThisnThat on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 10:15am.

...as long as it stops "paying for medically dubious procedures."

Sarah Palin is 100% right. But Paul Krugman is the person people like the NYT turns to. Through the Looking Glass, Alice.

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My car

Submitted by Red Jeep on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 10:17am.

My car is sustainable in its current form as long as I make changes to it.

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He will let us know later . . .

Submitted by In Excess on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 10:41am.

". . . and so on and so forth" is a very vague phrase that means 'we'll do what ever we want to make it work our way.'

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What does an economist ...

Submitted by Kenyon Schraeder on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 11:31am.

... like Paul Krugman actually do? Theorize in a total vacuum, blissfully ambivalent to the happenings in the real world around him? Maybe if he actually had to work for a living rather than survive on the NYT's welfare roll, he could come up with better and more practical economic theories.

Sometimes, just sometimes, too much knowledge on a subject renders an individual impotent on that subject, unable to actually do anything with it.

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Krugman-speak

Submitted by Galvanic on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 11:36am.

I can't recall any serious Democratic politician quoting Krugman, and for good reason. 

But that isn't to say that serious Democratic politicians don't similarly twist logic.

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Republican? You don't get treated.

Submitted by Slyrr on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 12:33pm.

Anyone who thinks for one moment that the Demorats won't use their takeover of health care as a weapon to force the American people into voting 'the right way' needs to wake up.

Obama has already used the federal government to terrorize the people of Texas, refusing to give them disaster relief money for wildfires. The message was clear - 'If you vote against me, and I let you burn and die.'

Obama is using the courts to terrorize the people of Arizona. Again, the message is clear. 'If you don't play ball with me and vote for the laws that I want, then I'll sue your butts and destroy your businesses.'

Obama used the courts and the Feds to deny South Carolina job-creating business from Boeing. Again, the message is clear. 'If you don't vote Democrat, you get no jobs, no money, and I leave you hanging out to dry.'

Obama used the power of government to shut down oil production in the Gulf, while letting his communist buddies in mexico, et. al, take over and snatch the oil from under our noses. Another clear message. 'If you don't do exactly what I tell you, then I shut you down and destroy your jobs, your lives and your families.'

So how can anyone believe that he and his cabal of power-mad 'czars' won't do the same thing with your health? Imagine going into a government controlled hospital and the clerk behind frosted glass asks you: 'Are you a good and loyal Democrat? Did you vote for the Democrat candidates - like you were supposed to?' And if you say 'no', then they sneer and say, 'Sorry - until you repent and vote Democrat, you can KEEP your cancer! NEXT!'

Remember in 2012 people - no matter WHO is the GOP candidate, we can't afford another 4 years of terrorism under Hussein 'just-give-em-a-pain-pill' Obama.

If a Liberal/Democrat politician/media figure wants to put their arms around you, or pat you on the back, all they're doing is looking for a good place to stick a knife.
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Sustainable in it's current form if we change it?

Submitted by hbnolikeee on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 12:38pm.

Parse that nonsense sentence. Krugman is a devote asshole.

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Exactly the same except different.

Submitted by Order270 on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 1:00pm.

If we don't treat the disease instead of the symptom we are all facing some form of a medical Death Squad. Can anyone...ANYONE, give me a reasonable explanation for a hospital charging me $10 for a band-aid when I can get a 100 for a $1 at the store? Has anyone missed how we are paying doctors $860 an hour for a 2 minute visit. I have yet to understand why this industry has been able to price itself clean out of the market.

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Order

Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 1:15pm.

You're paying $10 for the band aid because there are 9 people who come in who don't pay. And then there is medicade, who doesn't allow the hospital to charge the actual cost. The money has to be made up some way.

Don't forget all the tests that the doctors have to charge for CYA purposes. If one obscure symptom is overlooked and it causes harm to the patient, they have to pay. Sometimes nothing is overlooked, but the patient (and his lawyer) don't like the outcome, and they still have to pay.

Been in a doctor's office? I used to take my MIL to the vascular surgeon for checkups. They have a sonogram machine in there to monitor her vascular flow. The machines can cost anywhere from $25,000 to $200,000. Plus the pay for the technician, her insurance, her unemployment, etc.

We have the greatest healthcare system in the world, but it costs money to have the best. And those who can't pay get the same treatment.

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A Complicated Situation That Runs Deep

Submitted by stratman on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 2:28pm.

Rad makes some excellent points.

To expand further, but not complete by any means, the costs to the medical service provider (hospital, physician, whatever) are not your $1 for 100 band-aides.  A number of people have that band-aide pass through their hands before it gets to the patient.  All those people's time and effort, AKA jobs, need to be compensated.  That is additional expense per band-aide required to patch up the patient.  If you're wondering about making things more efficient, the medical industry has been on that for years.  Much more "efficiencies" and you won't get that band-aide at all.

There is markup on the materials and tools used which is rarely ever discussed.  A good portion of costs are not easily overcome by going to the Dollar Store to stock your hospital or business.  How about a $400 computer that is marked up 400% and mandatory if you want to use that company's software or networking hardware as well as have a service contract?  Then the exorbitant cost of software - ouch!   That's a ripoff but not one you hear being discussed.  Unless politicians want to tackle this issue, costs will continue to increase.  Then again, tell manufacturers and suppliers what they can sell their products and services for is statism.  You essentially would need to dictate all business in the US in order to truly tackle rising medical costs.  It's all interconnected.   Even the Left isn't attacking businesses (yet) that supply the medical profession yet, except for drug manufacturers and certain equipment industries.  But they will eventually given time and opportunity.

Are you ready to be told what to do, how to do it, and how you will be compensated by Government?  I'm not.

When you visit a physician, what you are paying for is their knowledge, not how long the interaction is, although their are codes to account for time spent, but it rarely is reached.  Insurers, including the Government, do not take into account time, just outcomes, patient satisfaction, and appropriateness of documentation in light of billing.  The physician needs to spend adequate time to complete their exam but not so little as to alienate the patient.  It is possible to make an appointment just to talk with the physician and carve out a set amount of time for discussion.  Ask.  There are also a (very) few physicians returning to real fee for service medicine, cash only, taking no insured patients, and publicizing their fee schedule up front so that patients can spend their money how they want. If you want 10 minutes and pay for ten minutes, you'll get 10 minutes.

Understand that as reimbursement decreases or stays neutral but costs to practice continue to increase, that the physician must either see more patients per unit time, have ancillary flows of income, and/or accept less income.  What would you do?

Also understand that Medicine is a service industry nowadays.  If you don't like your physician, find another one.  If costs are too great then let the market correct it.  If you don't want all the best that the US medical profession has to offer then don't accept it. 

A wise physician once told me Medicine can be

  • Cheap
  • Fast
  • Good

But you can only have 2 of the three at any one time.  Which 2 do you choose.

One further question:  Do you think healthcare is a right?

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How's it going Stratman and Rad

Submitted by Order270 on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 11:21pm.

I know it's a little late and no offense but these are the same time wore excuses I hear time and again. These are largely generalities and do not address root causes. If this same system was applied to auto mechanics, or anything else for that matter, no one could afford to maintain a car.

Basically, there is too much disconnect between the doctor's billing and the patience's cost. One small example is if I call someone to fix my A/C and he doesn't fix it, I don't pay the bill. But when a doctor doesn't know what's wrong with me, he bills SOMEONE $860 for a 2 minute diagnoses of "I don't know" then makes a referral or orders more tests. That's fine, but there is an obscenity buried in the disconnecting layers of bills whereby everyone takes a cut of that "I don't know" diagnoses.

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No offense taken.  It is a

Submitted by stratman on Mon, 06/06/2011 - 6:44pm.

No offense taken.  It is a complicated issue, Order270. 

Typically, what a physician bills is not what they receive in reimbursement from the insurer.  Contracts limit reimbursement no matter the charge.  Also remember that if you have to pay out of pocket, physicians and hospitals may be willing to negotiate charges.  Not all may be as it seems. 

Some of your options are to ask questions about charges before making the appointment or find another physician you can feel comfortable with. 

I wish you the best in your health.

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Saying no is the key no matter which side wins the debate

Submitted by OffTheLows on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 1:48pm.

And saying no should be specified that it's saying either government or government subsidized insurance will be saying no especially in the face of continued medical innovation, but the key is that "no" means the government won't foot the bill. If you are 70+ years old and need an organ transplant, you're more than welcome to do it with your own money, but the government can't afford to fund it directly or fund an insurance program that will cover it. When medicare was first devised, some of these positive but expensive medical outcomes weren't envisioned, and I suspect today there are positive but expensive medical outcomes that we currently don't envision but will be reality in a couple generations from now.

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X

Submitted by serfer62 on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 2:39pm.

He stold that line from The Won!!!!

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wow

Submitted by Hoosier Conservative on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 5:05pm.

It's sad for Paul Krugman to be that stupid, but it's even sadder for the millions of liberals who actually look up to him as an expert.

Marxists can't be good scientists? -troglodyte
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I posited that we were in for

Submitted by amyshulk on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 9:02pm.

I posited that we were in for a lost decade a la Japan, what, 2 years ago? And today, on This Week, Paul Krugman just {finally!!!} said it!!!

The government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan
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Raining

Submitted by Jerry Mack on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 9:10pm.

You do not get wet when it rains if you stay inside. Of course if your roof leaks then you could get wet.

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Bill?

Submitted by Cowboy on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 10:41pm.

Paul Krugman is auditioning for Bill Maher's job...

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