Dylan Ratigan: 'Republican Rhetoric Based in Abandonment of Arithmetic and Fact'
If you had any questions as to why Dylan Ratigan belongs on MSNBC rather than CNBC they were all answered Friday night.
Appearing on HBO's "Real Time," Ratigan presented himself as a far-left commentator telling the audience of devout liberals, "This entire rhetoric machine from the Republican Party is predicated on an abandonment of arithmetic and fact" (video follows with transcript and commentary):
DYLAN RATIGAN, MSNBC: If you were to look again at the core of all of this is a manipulation of arithmetic and fact. This entire rhetoric machine from the Republican Party is predicated on an abandonment of arithmetic and fact. And the dangerous thing about that…
[APPLAUSE]
RATIGAN: Yeah, it’s true. The dangerous thing about that is that once you suspend arithmetic and fact from a debate between any two people, you no longer have a democracy.
BILL MAHER, HOST: Right.
RATIGAN: I can accumulate power much easier in a world without arithmetic and fact because now I can just manipulate using fear, using the things that are used, and that really is the tragedy that we’re witnessing right now and sort of battling in this country.
You mean when a newly-elected Democrat president says that if his stimulus plan is passed, unemployment won't rise above 8 percent?
Or when Democrats today say the entire budget deficit can be wiped out just by eliminating the Bush tax cuts?
Or when a Democrat president in February proposes a budget that he claims reduces the deficit when it in fact increases debt by $9.7 trillion?
Or when a Republican Congressman weeks later proposes a budget to shore up the soon to go bankrupt Medicare and the Democrats along with their media minions say it eliminates the senior healthcare program?
Or when a Republican president in 2005 says that Social Security needs to be reformed because it's soon to go bankrupt and the Democrats along with their media minions say he's wrong and that we shouldn't worry about that program's finances for decades to come?
Or when Republicans in the '90s propose cutting the growth in various programs from 12 percent to 7 percent and Democrats along with their media minions say this represents a cut in those programs?
Or when virtually the entire Democrat Party believes despite all evidence to the contrary that carbon dioxide is responsible for temperatures rising on this planet since 1850 and that if we limit carbon emissions we can actually prevent temperatures from rising further?
You mean that kind of abandonment of arithmetic and fact, Dylan?
The reality is that for at least the last three decades, it has been the Democrat Party that has routinely misrepresented arithmetic and fact to the public, and the only way they get away with it is because liberal media members like Ratigan aid and abet the disinformation.
And now you know why Ratigan is on MSNBC - the primary disinformation source on cable television today.
(H/T RCP)
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MathmaMathematics Works, Arithmetic Does Not
Submitted by Avitar on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 12:10pm.
Compounding interest on debt is an exponential function and the Laffer curve is a differential equation calculation and one that changes over time. If you are using static Arithmetic then your opinion is not worth discussing.
Those who never understood calculus can work with computer spread sheets like Excel with million elements to get a reasonable estimate using sheer computational power.
Whose been in power? Libs are either delusional or liars....
Submitted by merly1 on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 12:42pm.
The publicly held federal debt will have doubled from 1/3/2007 thru 7/1/2011, roughly from $ 4.9 trillion to $10 trillion.
Over that time, we have witnessed a substantial drop in federal revenues from the 2007 record, as well as 3 war surges in Iraq/Afghan/Libya.
The inconvenient truth for many people is WHO has been running the government over these 4.5 years. The answer is largely the Democrats: majority Senate party entire time, the House for 4 of those 4.5 years, and the White House for 2.5 of those 4.5 years. Indeed, the Democrats had a filibuster proof majority
for 6 of those months, as well as being the ruling party in these Chambers/White House for 11 of the last 13.5 "service" years. War? Debt? Jobs? Gas Prices?
Place the majority of blame where it belongs, at the feet of the DEMOCRATS.
Dylan.gov THAT'S HIM.
Submitted by Annie Ashe Fields on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 12:48pm.
Dylan, honey, let me help you.
Sites that end in .gov have the answers.
LOOK 'EM UP ONCE.
I dunno. Like. SHOW PREP.
If you're gonna spew that sh*t, you'd do well to do it in a world without the internet, you insufferable putz.
http://www.anniefields.com/blog
On mslsd
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 1:00pm.
AND Bill the libtard Maher show, I would add.
That's pretty good Noel
Submitted by Boil It Down on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 1:08pm.
It's unfortunate that you weren't in his face on air with those come backs. Maybe it would be a good idea to do a little video magic with you and Ratigan or you and any MSNBC host facing off. Perhaps a montage. I'm visualizing a series now and the idea keeps growing. -bidn-
BID
Submitted by Noel Sheppard on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 1:39pm.
BID,
Make it happen. I'd tear this idiot apart. ns
No doubt in my mind Noel
Submitted by Boil It Down on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 6:14pm.
I am amused just thinking about the possibilities and believe that most everyone else would be too.
I would love to be involved if not producing something like those videos. Unfortunately, the only resources I have at my disposal are time and ideas. -bidn-
If I could
Submitted by Boil It Down on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 7:26pm.
I believe it would be a virtuous ambition to make the dismantling of MSNBC my lifes work until they are fixed or gone. -bidn-
When Bush was President
Submitted by TheHistorian on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 1:18pm.
When Bush was President the deficit for two years (with a mixed Congress, by the way) that they were spending us into oblivion with a deficit that was up to $300 billion, or about 18% of his budget that year. The liberal mantra was that "the deficit, the deficit, oh my, the deficit". The liberals said they could do better, so we put them in charge, and what did they do? They immediately blew up the deficit until they spent $4 of every $2 the government took in (50% deficit).
Now it is the REPUBLICANS who can't do math? The real problem is that there are people out there who are stupid enough to believe him. You can tell because his viewer share is not yet 3, which would be that only the other TV people and commentators are watching him. You can't watch him without "a willing suspension of disbelief" which is what Hillary said about Petraeus but applies to everything that this administration and its media partners say.
Dennis Prager
Did he cite examples of
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 1:22pm.
Did he cite examples of arithmetic and/or fact that has been abandoned by the Republican Party?
I mean, sure, both sides stretch the truth but what specifically does not add up in Republican proposals or is based entirely on false pretenses?
Lies
Submitted by Blorg on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 1:31pm.
Lies, damned lies, statistics, and Dylan Ratigan.
And Rat Again and bill murk
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 1:53pm.
got their degrees in economics where?
The Perfect Panel
Submitted by Bourbeau on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 3:09pm.
Dylan Rhattigan, Chris Matthews, and Eliot Spitzer - incoherency at it's best.
the scary thing is
Submitted by OffTheLows on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 3:17pm.
he's the guy on their lineup that is closest to the center besides joe scarborough. He has a lot of republicans on the show and shows flashes of being an independent, but then he'll go off the rails entering Maher's leftist den.
He did (conveniently after the fact) tweet about how math is an issue on both sides of the aisle:
http://twitter.com/#!/DylanRatigan/status/71981039374966784
I was told that Democrats had no clue when it came to math.
Submitted by acaiguana on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 3:47pm.
or Facts.
And I was told that Democrats accuse others of doing the very same things they are doing.
This is iconic.
I never heard of this guy...
And I'm not that isolated. Of course I am not part of the vast MSNBC, HBO etc. audience.
Does that fact make me want to abandon it. Poor fact. There there, I'll take care of you and feed you. You have no fear that I will ever watch MSNBC or HBO's silliness.
ACA
(ps, fact - I'm sooo tired of having to click to get a rich text editor for my comments. :<( ACA
...
Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
How about showing the arithmetic and the facts then?
Submitted by octavioj on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 8:31pm.
Mr. Ratigan,
if it is lack of arithmetic and facts why do not you just show us, or ask your Democratic friends, to show us the arithmetic that makes sense and the facts that show they are wrong, not the feelings, the hard facts. I hear the crickets chirping already. Thank you for nothing.
How dare you?
Submitted by adamsmith on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 12:21pm.
How dare you ask a Democrat(Communist) for factual proof? Dylan's word should be good enough because.........well, he just feels that way....
(sarc off)
reverse worlds
Submitted by Samshile on Sat, 05/21/2011 - 8:59pm.
Oh ya when folks go to AA they try and get them to drink. Hollywood doesnt want your money. 1+1= 3. Rats are big and elephants are small.