Gore Accuses Limbaugh, Fox and the Wall Street Journal of Conspiring to Mislead Public About Global Warming
The man that has made millions spreading the global warming myth claimed Friday that there's a conspiracy to mislead the public about the dangers of climate change.
The Aspen Times reported Monday that Nobel Laureate Al Gore said conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and the Wall Street Journal editorial page were involved:
Gore, 62, delivered a 50-minute keynote address for a symposium on “Forests at Risk: Climate Change and the Future of the American West.” The event, hosted by the local nonprofit For the Forest, was held in the Doerr-Hosier Center at The Aspen Institute.
In a question-and-answer session that followed his speech, Gore was asked about the intense opposition to the idea of manmade global warming.
"He said many global corporations base their profit margins on the ability to pollute," reported the Times. "They have banded together and spent billions of dollars in the media and in political campaigns, even hiring 'four anti-climate lobbyists for every member of Congress.'”
“And they said, if the public becomes convinced that this is what the scientists say it is, then it's ‘game over' for us,” Gore said.
According to the Times, he claimed their objective was "to transform global warming into a theory rather than a fact. And so the opponents of the effort to recognize climate change embarked upon a 'dedicated, cynical, lavishly funded strategy,' utilizing conservative talk radio, commentator Rush Limbaugh and his many imitators, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, Fox News and other right-wing outlets."
Imagine that.
The man whose schlockumentary has been so discredited that a British judge in 2007 noted nine material falsehoods in "An Inconvenient Truth" that must be disclosed to students if shown in a public school is pointing fingers at others for conspiring to spread misinformation.
Also hysterical is his claim that "global corporations base their profit margins on the ability to pollute" as it seems a metaphysical certitude that his own profits and investments in advancing this myth didn't surface during his address or the subsequent Q & A.
It's also doubtful Gore discussed his own political action group or the hundreds of millions of dollars it has spent trying to scare people into thinking that a less than one degree Celsius rise in global temperatures in the past 160 years is destroying the planet.
No, the real purveyors of half-truths and unproven theories are Rush Limbaugh, the Journal, Fox News, and other right-wing outlets.
Makes you wonder what the color of the sky is on the planet Gore's from as well as its average temperature.
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We know the hurricanes in his world turn backwards, NS
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:05pm.
Also that the laws of physics don't apply. The photoshop on his book's face plate have all of Cuba gone, even though the water's edge in the S.E. United States is several thousand feet below the highest peak in Cuba.
And of course, the hurricane turning clockwise.
Idiot!
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The Laws of Phyics
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:51pm.
You could start by opening your eyes to what the physicists of the world have learned and written about global warming, climate change, and the earth’s natural carbon cycle.
You can’t simply dismiss them ALL with the wave of a hand while squawking like a duck that there is no proof. Reputable scientific institutions exist, they are real, and they have studied the “FACTS” in much greater detail than you or I ever will.
Needless to say, they all very strongly disagree with you.
The American Institute of Physics was founded in 1931. It formally incorporated in 1932 consisting of five, original, “member-societies”, and a total of 4,000 members. A new set of “member-societies” was added beginning in the mid 1960s. The AIP has been publishing scientific journals for almost 80 years.
Hey troll
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:31pm.
Refute my facts.
Al Gore photoshopped his bookplates with the physically impossible.
<edit> Since you're a troll, I'll even be so nice as to provide you a picture. See that hurricane off Florida? It's spinning in the wrong direction. And Cuba, with its three mountain ranges, highest peak of almost 6,600 ft. apparently sunk due to Global Warming. OMG!!!!!
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You must be flawless
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:20pm.
I’m betting on the 58,287 scientists that belong to the AGU, some of which have I.Q.’s comparable to and even higher than that of an Albert Einstein or an Isaac Newton.
The AGU was established over 90 years ago, and for more than 50 years has operated as an unincorporated affiliate of the National Academy of Sciences.
These aren’t “NOBODIES.”
The National Academy of Sciences is like the Supreme Court of science; they are the best of the best when it comes to science, of an entire nation.
It should also ease your mind that the American Geophysical Union is a non-profit organization and inter-disciplinary.
Disseminating scientific information is what they do.
The subject of geophysics includes the shape of the Earth, its gravitational and magnetic fields, the dynamics of the Earth as a whole and of its component parts, the Earth's internal structure, composition and tectonics, the generation of magmas, volcanism and rock formation, the hydrological cycle including snow and ice, all aspects of the oceans, the atmosphere, ionosphere, magnetosphere and solar-terrestrial relations, and analogous problems associated with the Moon and other planets.
Geophysics is also applied to societal needs, such as mineral resources, mitigation of natural hazards and environmental protection. Geophysical survey data are used to analyze potential petroleum reservoirs and mineral deposits, to locate groundwater, to locate archaeological finds, to find the thicknesses of glaciers and soils, and for environmental remediation.
As preconditions to becoming a Nominated AGU Fellow, an applicant must be considered exceptional by his peers, and he must also have previously made a brilliant scientific contribution to mankind.
The AGU recently issued a position statement on climate change. This is how it begins:
The Earth's climate is now clearly out of balance and is warming. Many components of the climate system--including the temperatures of the atmosphere, land and ocean, the extent of sea ice and mountain glaciers, the sea level, the distribution of precipitation, and the length of seasons--are now changing at rates and in patterns that are not natural and are best explained by the increased atmospheric abundances of greenhouse gases and aerosols generated by human activity during the 20th century.
You really must be blonde because comparing any of the most vocal global warming deniers that exists to a Nominated AGU Fellow is kind of like comparing a kid working part time at Jiffy Lube (or you) to Richard Petty’s chief mechanic.
What are you babbling about now, Harry?
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:01pm.
Don't go getting all huffy because your hero, Al Gore, is an idiot.
What on earth does your post have to do with one thing I've said (other than you and Al Gore are idiots). And your post explains backward hurricanes how (hmmm, maybe they're upside down)?
We need a better class of troll, here. ©
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Imagine a massive campaign to discredit you
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:52pm.
To be honest, I could care less about Al Gore.
I do, however, care about the opinions of the smartest people on the planet.
It’s a sad fact that stupid people, or people with average intelligence, truly believe that they are as smart if not smarter than highly intelligent people.
Attacking the dignity of highly regarded scientific organizations is considered good politics on the conservative side of the political spectrum in the United States. The Republican Party wants everybody to believe that the most reputable scientists and scientific organizations in the world are all either corrupt or stupid.
And why, might you ask, are Republicans doing this?
Because not a single reputable scientific organization, or reputable scientist for that matter, thinks that man-made global warming is a myth, or that global warming and climate change aren’t very serious problems that require immediate attention.
Read: Opinions that Matter
http://harryhammer.wordpress.com/2010/03/16/opinions-that-matter/
Goodbye, troll. Your
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:48pm.
Goodbye, troll.
Your opinions don't matter.
Typical liberal elitist rhetoric
Submitted by ThisnThat on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 9:03pm.
When liberals run out of intelligent things to say (which doesn't take long), they always pull out the ol' "but we're smart as hell" argument. And it always boils down to calling normal people too stupid to think -- instead, pay attention to your masters, who are ohhhhhhhh so smart.
That argument doesn't fly anymore. Elitists have shown over and over again they have no more smarts that anyone else. And especially when they get caught up in the left's group-think, when the only important thing is adhering to the agenda.
And Harry -- we don't attact the dignity of highly regarded scientific organizations. We're actually smart enough to question their outputs; examine their input data; and challenge their methodology. It's called "getting a second opinion". And the second opinion we are getting conflicts with your hand-picked "smartest people in the world by far" organization. So we're not sold.
__________
“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
intelligent things to say
Submitted by Boudin on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 9:20pm.
Thanks to slugs, intelligent is relative
Comparing a Scholar to a Baboon
Submitted by Harry Braun on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 12:12am.
Your sources sound like they studied science at the University of Archie Bunker.
Check out this snippet from a 1975 episode of All In The Family to see what I mean.
Archie displays Inhoff-like reasoning about 8 minutes in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROuk85_qi18
In contrast, Anton Zeilinger is a reputable scientist from a reputable scientific organization.
Here is a link to Zeilinger sharing his point of view:
Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5dNg6pmgPg
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIzMZtQ9NwQ&feature=related
Some opinions matter much more than others.
In plain English:
Compared to Anton Zeilinger, James Mountain “Jim” Inhoff is a baboon.
Name calling
Submitted by ThisnThat on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 9:03am.
Continued name-calling is weak, and doesn't advance the conversation. But that's all you have left, apparantly.
__________
“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
Goodbye, troll. Thanks for
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:50am.
Goodbye, troll. Thanks for revealing your character...or rather lack thereof.
Quit babbling and cite your sources there skippy
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 8:12pm.
YOu come in HERE with a wiki definition, uncited of course, and expect any of us to take you seriously?
You are dismissed.
Harry Braun
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 8:52pm.
For someone who seems to extol the virtues of science and its logical approach, you seem to like putting forth arguments that are little more than appeals to authority.
That's a type of logical fallacy in case you didn't understand what I was getting at.
Look, no one will dispute that most researchers in atmospheric physics and geophysics currently hold to the idea of global warming and that most of them hold to the idea of anthropomorphic global warming.
And in my opinion, that merits some respect for those ideas. But it certainly doesn't make them fact. You can find many instances in the past where the general consensus among the smartest in science ended up being wrong - the fundamental nature of light, the existence of the aether, the idea that atomic phenomena could be described classically, that the universe was parity symmetric.
The problem with atmospheric physics is that the system being studied is a very complicated one - a chaotic non-equilibrium system. And it certainly isn't fully understood. All those scientists will acknowledge that. Current theories and models have to be understood within that context.
The fact is that many of us in science that don't work in that field roll our eyes when they hear people in that field making predictions as if they were fact - particularly when they use computer models as "proof". Have you ever worked with or created a computer model? If you have, you have to know what I mean.
The fact is, we won't know if their predictions are correct until after the fact - when empirical reality lets us know if the models are right. Science is the way it is because of what nature says - not the other way around.
To someone who doesn't work in science or know how it works, the opinions of a group of scientists might seem impressive, but to the rest of us, their just a bunch of folks who work in one, relatively small subfield of science who seem to have gotten way too much into politics for their own good.
Do you consider yourself lucky, punk?
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:36pm.
I know a little bit about odds and probabilities.
Do you play poker?
Do you ever bet on football?
Because if you do, you'll understand my analogy.
Right now, from my perspective, it looks to me like you want to bet every penny that you have on 2-7 off-suit, despite the fact that you're staring at pocket aces.
Long shots do come in once and a while, but, not very often.
Right now, from my perspective, It looks like you want to bet the farm on Detroit winning the Super Bowl next year.
Harry Braun
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:42pm.
And I'm sure plenty of folks would have made the same types of analogies about a hundred and twenty years ago when it came to predictions about how close physics was to understanding everything.
And then relativity and quantum mechanics showed up.
An analogy isn't an argument. And yours fails to address any of the points I brought up in my post.
"Punk"? Dropped the gloves, did ya Professor?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:46pm.
Two minutes for high dicking:
Powerplay USA.
Goodbye, troll. Clearly
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:52am.
Goodbye, troll.
Clearly your knowledge and understanding of probabilities and statistics is extremely limited.
Uninformed Jerk
Submitted by NL207 on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 8:29pm.
You should pick your targets with more care. Some of them are simply beyond your own personal capabilities. This is likely to prove one of those.
To paraphrase and old quotation, Son, your mouth is writing checks your brain can't cash....
Glad you brought up the models, Hydro
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 11:29pm.
Crap in, crap out, as they say.
We can't even agree on the forcings used for these models, and water vapor, very likely the greatest forcing mechanism, is not even accounted for.
Do I even need to go into the funny business of the weather stations, the switching of data from cooler months for warmer ones, the utter lack of ability to account for all variables in such a chaotic system?
Basing the spending, (redistribution), of billions-trillions of our wealth on faulty science as this is breathtakingly foolish.
Needless to say that you are
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:14pm.
Needless to say that you are presenting untruths whether knowingly or unknowingly. And needless to say you are a planted troll.
Needless to say there is no substance to your comment
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:28pm.
Have you ever heard of the Global Climate Science Communications Action Plan:
http://www.euronet.nl/users/e_wesker/ew@shell/API-prop.html
The draft plan, titled “Global Climate Science Communications Action Plan,” concedes that opposition to the protocol is not shared by the public or a vast majority of scientists worldwide. “There has been little, if any, public resistance or pressure applied to Congress to reject the treaty, except by those ‘inside the Beltway’ with vested interests,” it notes.
The New York Times reported that according to the document, a key component of the plan would be to “maximize the impact of scientific views consistent with ours on Congress, the media, and other key audiences.” To do this, they would “recruit a cadre of scientists who share the industry’s views of climate science and to train them in public relations so they can help convince journalists, politicians and the public that the risk of global warming is too uncertain to justify controls on greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide that trap the sun’s heat.
You are obviously clueless as to what goes on in Washington.
Do you think you have what it takes to sit through 19 minutes of reality?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwbiDaiLrkk
You are obviously dishonest.
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:05pm.
You are obviously dishonest. Period.
Neither you nor your video properly presented documentation. And all you can do is respond fallaciously. Typical when a lib has run out of substance (which in your case was immediate).
Oh, I get it, Harry - you get paid from the neck down
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:03pm.
...like all the other manure spreaders.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
"You can't simply
Submitted by NL207 on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 3:16pm.
"You can’t simply dismiss them ALL with the wave of a hand"
We don't. Why do you dismiss and attempt to silence the scientists that disagree with this proposition?
Why do you ignore obvious corruption, scientific fraud, misbehavior and law breaking on the part of those scientists who are vigorously propounding this theory?
Hey Al tell us about the ethanol lie while you're at it
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:11pm.
How about the money you're making on pushing this lie?
Here's the question unanswered.
The earth has had seven ice ages. That's seven times the planet has transitioned from hot to cold and then back. All that before man walked this earth and burned his first piece of coal.
SO NOW CLIMATE VARIATION IS MAN MADE. HOW IS THAT?
Go cook some more numbers and get back to me.
Here's a visual that might provide some perspective
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:57pm.
Do you know what 40,000 gallons per second looks like?
According to the 2008 World Fact-book, the world currently consumes about 85,270,000 barrels of oil per day.
85,270,000 barrels per day x 42 US gallons per barrel = 3,581,340,000 US gallons per day = 149,222,500 US gallons per hour = 2,487,042 US gallons per minute = 41,451 US gallons per second.
So, the world consumes about 40,000 US gallons of oil per second.
41,451 US gallons of oil per second = approximately 157 cubic meters of oil per second.
Imagine a river of oil.
I thought it might interesting to see just how much oil we are talking about here, so I compared the amount of oil that we are currently burning in the world to the amount of water that flows in various waterfalls.
I used average yearly flow rate figures.
The flow rate of Jog Falls is about 153 cubic meters per second, a little less than our imaginary river of oil.
You can see what 153 cubic meters per second looks like here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU0CjwPVfrw
Now imagine it on fire with black smoke billowing into the air.
To adamantly insist that this couldn’t be effecting the environment is irrational.
Realize that I haven’t mentioned coal.
Now you're spamming, SorosBot
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:06pm.
Stop regurgitating your old lengthy screeds verbatim on NB.
Goodbye troll. NewsBusters
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:19pm.
Goodbye troll.
NewsBusters isn't the place for you to try to promote your hate blog and your misinformation.
And how large is the
Submitted by NL207 on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 4:58pm.
And how large is the reservoir this "river of oil" is flowing into?
Size is a relative measure.
→ Forests at risk?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:11pm.
You're such a doofus, Al.
3rd Grade Science class? Remember?
If your theory is true, the forests you say are at risk will absolutely gorge themselves on all the CO2 we're supplying.
Hope Tipper has found herself a few good men by now. You and your "masseuses"!
Later, Al.
Go Plant a Tree
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:55pm.
You should mention trees to your conservative brethren. You see, they don’t care too much about planting trees, however, they do enjoy chopping them down for commercial gain.
I think you will find that most conservatives would rather have an abortion than plant trees.
Have you studied Bush’s Healthy Forests Initiative?
It essentially ignores the advice of scientists from everywhere, including conservation groups such as the Sierra Club, the Natural Resources Defence Council, The Wilderness Society, and the John Muir Project.
"Trees define us."
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:13pm.
First, we're not running out of trees where we operate. Each day, the North American forest industry plants more than 1.7 million trees. We're proud that Weyerhaeuser is a leader in this effort. Last year Weyerhaeuser alone planted more than 170 million trees. The sun and the rain do the rest.
You Didn't Build That.
Jeez, Maui no ka oi, is this
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:52pm.
Jeez, Maui no ka oi, is this guy that dumb??? Where the hell does he think these trees come from - for construction, paper, and all of the other great products that it produces?? Doesn't he know that these companies are IN this business, and they have to keep the cycle going?? What a dope.................
WoW-laulau, Got that right, killa
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:18pm.
You Didn't Build That.
The "No Tree Left Behind" Act
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:35pm.
Are you proud to be in denial of the conclusions of every major scientific organization in the world, including your own National Academy of Sciences?
Opponents of the act point out that logging companies will be allowed to unnecessarily cut large diameter trees under a false pretense, while neglecting the greater issue of ladder fuels (such as brush and small trees) and possibly leaving debris that would add to extremely volatile ground fuels.
True or False?
Misinformation. Again. Your
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:07pm.
Misinformation. Again.
Your propaganda is deceiving no one.
It's the law
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:59pm.
American corporation are legally obligated to maximize profits not do what's good.
...sez the Winnipegian
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:08pm.
.
Patently untrue
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:09pm.
If you think so, why don't you cite the law (you know, from the actual statutes) that stipulates "American Corporations are legally obligated to maximize profits".
You are truly dumber than you look.
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Squeeze, squeeze, and sqeeze some more
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:04pm.
I'm back. Did you miss me?
There's a theory floating around that has to do with the economy.
It reasons that corporations are going to try and squeeze the workforce as much as possible. The problem lies in the fact that if you squeeze too much, there won’t be anyone left to buy your products. It’s an inherent problem with the system.
Right now, in your country and mine, the middle-class and working poor are getting squeezed to death.
Does that not concern you?
The game will end if the richest 1% keep making out like bandits.
Believe me, you don't want the game to end.
It began with Henry Ford when he tried to pay his workers a higher wage than the going rate.
That issue went to court in 1916 and led to a fundamental principle of Anglo-American corporate law, which is part of the reason why the Anglo-American system is slightly different from the European social market system.
Look up the famous case called “Dodge v. Ford.”
Some of the owners of the Ford motor company, the Dodge brothers, brought Henry Ford to court, claiming that by paying the workers a higher wage, and by making cars better than they had to be made, he was depriving them of their profits. They argued that dividends would be lower, they went to court and they won.
Look it up ditto-heads.
→ Oh Really?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:12pm.
And these same companies paid the price of planned obsolescence in the '70s as Japan moved into a market full of companies trying to sell the same old crap.
The finding in the case is a matter of record but I'm not sure it's been applied since.
True Cool
Submitted by Boudin on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:16pm.
The American Auto industry quickly went from about 40 manufacturers to 3. And they are doing sooo well.
Is this guy bragging or confirming?
→ Boudin
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:25pm.
I remember when odometers rolled over at 99,999 miles.
Competition from abroad changed all that.
Anglo-American system vs. European social market system?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:19pm.
WTH is the European social market system?
Nobody here is going to be baffled by your BS. And we certainly don't need social engineering advice dispensed from Winnipeg, thank you very much.
Put your efforts into own blog would be my advice.
The Legatum Prosperity Index
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 11:13pm.
I live in Vancouver BC Canada not Winnipeg.
I live in a country ranked 7th in the world in overall prosperity.
The United States is ranked 10th.
The Legatum Prosperity Index is the world’s only global assessment of wealth and wellbeing. It was developed by the Legatum Institute, which according to their website “is an independent, non-partisan organisation that researches and advocates an expansive understanding of global prosperity. Prosperity comprises both material wealth and well-being and includes factors such as liberty, opportunity, security and overall human flourishing.”
Unlike other studies that rank countries by actual levels of wealth, life satisfaction or development, the Prosperity Index produces rankings based upon the very foundations of prosperity – those factors that help drive economic growth and produce happy citizens over the long-term.
The index is based on 79 different variables analysed across 104 nations around the world. The 79 variables are grouped into 9 sub-indexes which are averaged using equal weights. The 9 sub-indexes are:
Check it out for yourself.
http://www.li.com/ProsperityIndex.aspx
By the way, Legatum is non-profit and there are plenty of former Bush administration members involved, so be careful before you immediately shred it.
Legatum is a premium statistical organisation, as good as it gets.
I asked you what the "European social market system" was,
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:30am.
not for a Life-Is-Better-In-Canada commercial. So please define it for us.
And thanks for clarifying that you live in Vancouver, not Winnepeg. But surely you could understand how one would be confused by your post "Come to Winnepeg...record high temps as we speak."
God Save The Canadian Beavers.
Hey, what is wrong with
Submitted by BD on Sun, 02/27/2011 - 12:23am.
Hey, what is wrong with Winnepeg?
Squeeze, squeeze, and sqeeze some more
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:09pm.
.
→ You just don't see
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:20pm.
Unless it's an advance in the technology of warfare, the next big thing will not come from the government but from private ingenuity.
Harry, Shouldn't you Canadians be busy rebuilding your military?
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:30pm.
Because if the Comrade Chairman succeeds in causing America to go Tango Uniform (and I say his chances are still right around 50/50), you who reside in the Great White North are going to become sitting ducks literally overnight.
I mean, you could be invaded by Principality of Monaco, or even worse, France. :-^)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Even worser, QUEBEC may decide to invade
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:43pm.
Plus, do you know how many beaver pelts it takes to trade for one old McDonnell Douglas F-18?
80,324,945,902,345,001.
Godspeed, beavers.
→ SOL
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:45pm.
Could you be more specific?
Are these tanned beaver pelts?
Cool: no, unprocessed.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:49pm.
All tanning ops have been moved to Mexico.
→ Goes without saying
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:51pm.
More sunshine -- more tan.
Forgot to add: that beaver pelt number was in Centigrade
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:56pm.
It would be a lot more in (normal) Fahrenheit pelts.
SoL,
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:59pm.
Are you sure they even have that many beavers?
LOL - They might have to settle for a suplus F-86.
-Or maybe a pair of these.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Is the Government Inept, or what?
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 11:34pm.
I must admit that the United States military is the best in the world.
It’s complex, sophisticated and involves state of the art technology. Furthermore, your soldiers have top notch medical care; the best in the world.
Newsflash:
It’s all run by the government.
Yet, your mob wants everyone to believe that the government is inept at everything, right?
The U.S. military---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 12:33am.
is financed by U.S. taxpayers though the necessary monies are disbursed by the federal government. The military is subordinate to, but NOT run by the government; it is RUN by career military personnel handling the day-to-day operations. The Feds couldn't BEGIN to RUN the military, and if they tried, rest assured, on the way to ruin, they would pass up "inept" like it were standing still.I know a couple of Canadians
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 2:09am.
I know a couple of Canadians over here - they've done work for me, Nice guys, but a little too liberal for my taste - but they're learning!!! They can't believe that I'm a 'right wing whack-job', because I'm NOT an angry, homophobic, racist, hateful, narrow-minded cretin!!! One of them even TOLD me that!!! I told him that he'd been listening to too much Make-It-Up-Media, and he needs to open his own mind!!!
Anyway, we've have a few conversations, and they're pretty stuck on their own socialistic beliefs, but I don' t change my tune for them, or anybody else. And when they decide that they want to badmouth the USA, I politely but firmly ask them what the hell they are doing here?? That usually shuts them up.
And, as for the military, they DO have to admit that Canada is at a very favorable advantage by having the USA as neighbors, because 'we've got their backs', so to speak. Hell, even Mexico isn't worried about being invaded by the 'imperialist USA'..................and, in fact , WE are being invaded by Mexico!!
I think Canada ought to thank us for protecting them, and do something about their growing Moooooooooslem problem, because not only will they come down here and try to do US harm, but you guys are worthless infidels too, so don't go thinking that you'll be exempt!!!
I don't think that we - here at NB - are any kind of mob. We have a lot of exchange of ideas and conversation. We DO think that government causes a helluva a lot more problems than they solve, and - YES - the military may be one of the parts of our government that actually does a fairly good job.
As for ALGORE - who this thread is about - he's a total phony and charlatan, and I think the guy ought to be brought up on charges relating to his dishonest scam and exploitation of false information , with the idea of gaining phenomenal riches from it. Do you think this low IQ lardass actually CARES about the enviroment for any other reason??? Look at how the phony lives and conducts his life!!!
By the way, from what I can figure out, Canada has a much more conservative government right now than we do!!! That's how sick things have gotten!!!
Newsflash for the Braunsicle frozen troll
Submitted by Denny Crane on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 9:07am.
The military is run by the government because it's supposed to!
What mob are you talking about?
"Our Mob" realizes that there are a few things that the government is supposed to do, and those things should be done by the government. The problem is that 75% of what the government is doing shouldn't be done by them.
Hint for the dumb canuk, the military falls in the 25% range of things that are supposed to be done by the gov.
We Are The 53%
"It’s all run by the
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 10:58am.
"It’s all run by the government."
Harrytroll, your knowledge of who runs the U.S. military is as vacuous as your knowledge (rather lack thereof) of how the President is elected in the United States.
Goodbye troll. Your
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:22pm.
Goodbye troll.
Your ignorance of legal obligations is also revealed.
→ They are not, Harry
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:17pm.
Corporations are allowed to be stupid and fritter away profits if they wish.
Just look at NBC, ABC, CBS . . .
Lemme guess: You live in a hut made of discarded shells
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:02pm.
.
"You should mention trees to
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:15pm.
"You should mention trees to your conservative brethren. You see, they don’t care too much about planting trees, however, they do enjoy chopping them down for commercial gain."
Lies.
And also reveals that you are indeed a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance.
Plagerise Rush Limbaugh
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:43pm.
You can't even come up with a complete sentence on your own.
It reveals that you are a ditto-head.
Too bad you can't spell
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:50pm.
It's "plagiarize" and "poll"....rhymes with and even LOOKS LIKE TROLL
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
I didn't know this was a spelling contest
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:09pm.
Here's the Rush Limbaugh clip that you bootlegged.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5VHdl_i_Mg
Did I spell bootlegged right?
Your attention to detail is amazing.
People like you have what people who make up the ultra-high IQ community like to refer to as garbage trap minds.
People with garbage trap minds aren't usually capable of deep thought.
Apparently you don't even
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:36pm.
Apparently you don't even know what bootleg means.
Your ignorance and dishonest is amazing.
But since you are just another liberal extremist, it is not surprising.
Listen Sportsfan
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:05pm.
I suggest you consider the last Olympic Games as evidence of a significant warming trend.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/01/20/bc-cypress-mountain-no-snow.html
I live in Vancouver BC Canada, the city that just hosted the 2010 Winter Olympic Games. I’ve lived there my entire life. In the 1980′s my friends and I would typically ski more than 100 times a year locally. Our favorite mountain at the time was Grouse Mountain because it had night skiing, a spectacular view, and it was only a 25 minute drive from where we lived.
Incidentally, Grouse Mountain is the location that NBC chose to do their Olympic broadcast from.
Today, that same drive to Grouse mountain takes double the time because like everywhere, especially in North America, the number of cars has been steadily increasing with population growth. In 1980, there were about 12 million cars on the road in Canada. By 2008 it was over 20 million. During that same time period America went from 140 million cars to almost 245 million.
Back in the 1980′s, 25 feet of snow on our local Vancouver mountains wasn’t uncommon. Most of us would buy a full season ski pass which would typically cover from late October through the end of April.
It was a terrific deal.
Today, it’s not such a terrific deal.
The ski season is now shorter despite the fact that our local mountains currently use state of the art snow making machines whenever possible. The same mountain that I used to ski 6 months out of the year in long underwear, I now climb all year round in a T-shirt and shorts.
http://www.grousemountain.com/Winter/
http://www.grousemountain.com/Winter/vancouver-bc-hiking-trails-trips/
I admit that I’m exaggerating a little to make a point. But, even so, from my perspective Vancouver BC Canada has become progressively warmer over the last 30 years. As a matter of fact, just last year we smashed an all time high temperature record that had stood since 1941. We smashed it by 0.5 of a degree.
The 2010 Winter Olympic Games were almost canceled due to lack of snow and unusually warm temperatures, in Canada, the Great White North, in the dead of winter. That said, I certainly wouldn’t be rushing out to buy shares in any of our local Vancouver ski hills right now. However, if I’m still alive when the oil and coal runs out, I may reconsider.
The 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing was another clue that maybe burning a river of oil and a mountain of coal might not be so good for the people or the planet. A year to the day before the start of the 2008 Games, the president of the International Olympic Committee said, “It’s an option.” He was talking about how endurance sports like cycling might be delayed or even canceled because of air pollution and smog.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7061253.stm
So, back to back, we’ve witnessed a Summer Games in China almost canceled because of air pollution and smog, followed by a Winter Games in Canada almost canceled because of lack of snow and unusually warm winter temperatures.
I suppose, all we need now to complete the Trifecta is for deadly wildfires to burn the Olympic village to ash in the 2012 Games?
Perhaps it’s a good thing the next Olympics is being held in England and not Australia?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123407277285560581.html
By the way, climate scientists predicted that wildfires would increase:
http://scrippsnews.ucsd.edu/Releases/?releaseID=739
Anyone else notice an increase in wildfires around the world lately?
Another "scroll-by" of lies.
Submitted by dbo on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:08pm.
Another "scroll-by" of lies.
Goodbye, troll. NewsBusters
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:23pm.
Goodbye, troll.
NewsBusters is not the place to promote your hate blog nor to cut-and-paste nonsense from there.
Now you're copy/pasting your crappy blog?
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:24pm.
For the love of Obama!
Make it stop.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
→ Harry Harry Harry
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:11pm.
Yeah that's it, the Olympics is a prime example of a warming trend.
And if they'd had the Olympics this year it would be a prime example of a cooling trend.
You're flailing, Harry. And you've got a blog and everything official like that, huh?
Harry needs to go South a bit
Submitted by ThisnThat on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 9:55pm.
Like to Kirkwood South Tahoe, CA. Total snow this season: 450 inches. Average season -- 600 inches. Another 2'-3' of snow forecast by Saturday, with very heavy snow next week.
But Harry is exactly like his "elite, so smart" buddies -- he confuses climate with weather. And he thinks that both remain static for all time --- any variation is cause for alarm. He picks a point in time that's convenient to him, and expounds without facts on how horrible mankind has made the planet. ad nausiam.
Meanwhile, it's cold at my house. With lots of snow on the ground. And people are landing planes and driving cars on the frozen lake. Last summer it was hot. And it rained last spring. And it was hot and cold during last autum. Harry wants me to panic and bow down to his intellectual gods of science. I just want it to stop snowing and the ice to melt, so I can launch the boat. Good luck Harry -- keep trucking up your snowless mountain in Vancouver.
P.S., for Harry's benefit, here's the Vancouver forecast as of 17 February, 2011:
Victoria, B.C. - It’s back. Winter is raising its frigid head and may deliver its coldest blast of the season with a significant snowfall warning in effect for east Vancouver Island for Thursday night and Friday.
Rain, hail, bitter cold and snow are all in the forecast throughout southern Vancouver Island over the next week to 10 days with a snowfall warning already posted for Nanaimo.
“Bitter arctic air will creep out here … it might be the worst we’ve seen all winter,” Environment Canada meteorologist David Jones said Thursday.
Blame it on global warming, Harry.
__________
“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
"Harry needs to go South a bit"
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:02pm.
TnT,
LOL - I think he already has. ;-)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Harrytroll has been lying all
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:04am.
Harrytroll has been lying all along. Several NB commenters have exposed Harrytroll's lies and ignorance. now you can see Harrytroll lashing out because he is being publicly humiliated by all the refutations of his uber-liberal nonsense.
It's called a thesaurus meathead
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 11:47pm.
What do you mean by “liberal extremist”
Since, you’re so keen on the definitions of words, why don’t you look up the word liberal?
After that, look up conservative and then ask yourself who you would rather hang around with.
Harry Braun---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 12:20am.
Liberal extremist = putz.
Since you're so keen on being perceived as erudite, you would be well advised to avoid making such trite observations as the ones you have tossed out in various threads up to this point.
This is a conservative site.
This is where you are currently "hanging around".
But for the obvious trolling factor involved, it might seem you prefer the company of conservatives.
As liberal to liberal verbal contact does indeed water down productive and thoughtful discourse, it is understandable that you would choose to "hang around" a conservative site in order to pick up something of substance to take back to your underbridge dwelling cohorts.
They may even elect you "Top Troll" for your contribution.
MD
I know the definitions as
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:07am.
I know the definitions as they relate to political and social issues (since this is the context of which I use the term on NewsBusters). Your attempts to redefine words just shows how intellectually and morally bankrupt you are, Harrytroll.
You said you could write....
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:39pm.
Obviously not, writers can spell.
I wouldn't be so fast to cast aspersions my way, fella. You know nothing about me, including my IQ.
I will tell you one thing, I have very pointy troll boots, which I am enjoying using on you, and I did enjoy you falling for into the "dumb" blonde trap.
You are wrong about the "Bootleg" as well....go figure! Shall I (with my superior IQ and reading comprehension) count the ways?
Furthermore, as anyone here knows, I wouldn't have used that phrase, I'd have called you the Hope Diamond (h/t my pal Shawnee).
Let me know if you need further help with your poor word choice and reading deficiency. I may be able to help you with that....as for your liberal ideas, you are beyond help, Harry. Stay in Canada where your government can order the killing of babies.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Forgive Me
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:09pm.
Let's throw out the entirety of climate science because Al Gore forgot to cross a "T" or dot an "i".
How many responses have I put forward this morning?
More than all of you, by far.
It's easy to be perfect when you don't say much.
It's not Al mis-typing words, here, Harry
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:12pm.
It's you. Yet you support his hypocricy and lies about AGW.
Granted, you've typed an awful lot of crap here, you must think you're the Canadian Obama....yabbers incessantly, yet says absolutely nothing.
Being concise is an artform, Harry. Study it. Since I'm in the mood to give you helpful writing tips and whatnot.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Goodbye, troll. Apparently
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:27pm.
Goodbye, troll.
Apparently you cannot count either. Math isn't your strong suit. And you now revealed undeserved hubris. Your ignorance and arrogance are a guaranteed losing combination.
It's not plagiarism when I've
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:09pm.
It's not plagiarism when I've already cited Limbaugh as the source elsewhere in this thread. Apparently you're not paying attention.
Still, the facts are on my side while you're left with lies, Media Matters, Saul Alinsky, ad nauseum.
Jinx, Beuke
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:41pm.
LOL, this is one particularly stupid troll. Lookee! He even pretends not to know what a troll is. You'd think with all of his faux link thingies he'd know how to google "troll".
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Stupid AND arrogant. Not a
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:08am.
Stupid AND arrogant. Not a winning combination.
Holy carbon credits!! Is this the same "conspiracy" which placed
Submitted by no tingly legs on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:13pm.
BJ Clinton's johnson in Monica's mouth? Advice to Gore: You're powerless against a conspiracy with that kind of power.
Republican Sex Scandals Dwarf Those of Democrats
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:00pm.
America spent more tax money conducting Ken Starr's investigation of President Bill Clinton's affair with intern Monica Lewinsky, than they did in the investigation of the September 11th 2001 attacks on the United States.
It was about Clinton's lying..not the BJ
Submitted by Red Jeep on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:11pm.
How is Clinton's BJ a Republican sex scandal? That's extreme pretzel logic.
Troll
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:16pm.
Harry's a planted troll with no truth to offer.
Troll?
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:10pm.
Is troll another one of Rush Limbaughs favorite words?
Harry BraunHammer = Troll
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:37pm.
Clear enough for you, Har?
You have nothing.
Why is this a surprise?
Submitted by C-townGiant on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:15pm.
Gore is yet one more cog in the global conspiracy that is under way to radically change the world we live in...and not for the better.
With Obama and the Dems doing their parts to destroy our fiscal house, and Gore and the nets doing their part to destroy economic growth through their radical environmentalism, it is all part and parcel of their plan to radically make over our economy and force this country into western European socialism. Ironically, they are doing this just as western Europe is throwing up their hands and saying, "This form of economics and government do no work!"
What angers me the most is that, because of the media, most people in this great a=country are too stupid to get the facts. They are being herded like lambs to slaughter, and they don't care one whit. I weep for the future of my children if these liberals are not thrown out of office permanently.
Do conservatives have all the answers? No...of course not. But their solutions are a hell of a lot better than what any liberals are proposing.
Wisconsin is just the start. An economic revolution is coming...I just pray it is the right one.
The Base of the Republican Party are Young-Earthers
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 12:22pm.
The Republican Party is inundated with Christian extremists, most of which are global warming deniers who also believe that the earth is only about 8000 years old.
Creation science museums are popping up everywhere.
What does it cost to build a museum these days?
http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/e...
As of 2008 a Gallup poll indicated the following:
36% of US adults agreed with the statement "human beings developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided this process.",
14% believed that "Human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God had no part in this process."
44% of US adults agreed with the statement "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so."
About a quarter of the U.S. population is under the age of 20. Therefore, about 100 million Americans are already in agreement that scientists are full of crap because of their "Age of the Earth" views. Furthermore, most of these folks will argue until the cows come home that the science backs them up.
The Republican Party is loaded with young earth creationists, many of which have hated science since before global warming was even an issue.
Is it any wonder that they are the only political party on the planet in denial of the conclusions of the IPCC?
Troll?
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 12:57pm.
You didn't include your sarcasm sign.
Oh, you were serious?
Let me point out your claims are unsubstantiated and also fail to show a cause-and-effect relationship thus several of your claims become nothing more than an exercise in the begging the question fallacy.
Let's look at some of your statements:
"The Republican Party is inundated with Christian extremists,"
No proof. Just an example of poisoning the well (another fallacy incidentally).
"most of which are global warming deniers who also believe that the earth is only about 8000 years old."
No proof.
Thus your first statement contains claims which you do not substantiate with any sound, documented evidence but use as an unwarranted attack on conservatives and Christians.
"Creation science museums are popping up everywhere."
No proof.
You're batting .000
And the list you provided has only 25 such museums (and they really use the term loosely since many aren't museums in the classic sense) in the United States. Hardly evidence that "Creation science museums are popping up everywhere."
"As of 2008 a Gallup poll indicated the following:
"36% of US adults agreed with the statement "human beings developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided this process.",
14% believed that "Human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God had no part in this process."
44% of US adults agreed with the statement "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so.""
And which Gallup poll specifically was this. Link, please?
So? Irrelevant to your point you're trying (and failing) to make.
"About a quarter of the U.S. population is under the age of 20. Therefore, about 100 million Americans are already in agreement that scientists are full of crap because of their "Age of the Earth" views. Furthermore, most of these folks will argue until the cows come home that the science backs them up."
Non sequiturs about here. First, just because app. 27.3% are under 20 does not make them all in agreement as you indicate here. One does not necessarily follow the other. Secondly, just because they are under the age of 20 does not automatically mean they "are already in agreement that scientists are full of crap because of their "Age of the Earth" views". Not only is that a non sequitur fallacy, it is also a blanket statement and hyperbole. Thus your claim here becomes invalid.
"The Republican Party is loaded with young earth creationists,"
No proof.
" many of which have hated science since before global warming was even an issue."
No proof. And patently absurd to boot.
"Is it any wonder that they are the only political party on the planet in denial of the conclusions of the IPCC?"
No proof. Actually if you had been honest, you wouldn't have made this statement due to the fact that republicans, democrats AND independents aren't buying into the "global warming/climate change" theories of which are being pushed down our throats by people, such as Al Gore, who are in line to make hefty profits if enough people believe them.
Overall, you get a failing grade and reveal that you are indeed a "glittering jewel of colossal ignorance" (ht - Limbaugh)
My advice to you is to stop drinking the Kool-Aid. You don't have enough brain cells to spare.
There's a Common Thread
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:13pm.
Here's a more recent pole on the subject:
December 17, 2010 Four in 10 Americans Believe in Strict Creationism Belief in evolutionary origins of humans slowly rising, however by Frank NewportPRINCETON, NJ -- Four in 10 Americans, slightly fewer today than in years past, believe God created humans in their present form about 10,000 years ago. Thirty-eight percent believe God guided a process by which humans developed over millions of years from less advanced life forms, while 16%, up slightly from years past, believe humans developed over millions of years, without God's involvement.
The common thread between free market fundamentalism and religious fundamentalism stood out like a sore thumb in America's 2004 national election.
As for creation science:
http://www.nwcreation.net/groupcreation.html
Good evening Harry
Submitted by cocodrie on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:33pm.
You must have been dancing aroung the May Pole with Algore to get those figures. This is the first time in my 71 years i have seen LIAR spelled b-a-p-t-i-s-t
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
It's usually spelled ("Protestant Reformer")
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:56pm.
If Jesus returned to earth today, you'd probably run him out of town.
You'd accuse Him of being a communist or something equally nutty.
You'd probably accuse Him of lying for grant money.
You don't know Jesus.
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:11pm.
You don't know Jesus.
→ So what, Harry
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:36pm.
And the word you used is usually spelled "poll" rather than "pole"
You're not really Larry Sinclair, are you?
Run, troll, run
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:18pm.
I see you fled in fear from my rebuttal to your unsubstantiated and refuted claims. Run, troll, run.
I'm still here
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:57pm.
What do you want to know?
You fled in fear from my
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:12pm.
You fled in fear from my rebuttal to your unsubstantiated and refuted claims. Run, troll, run.
So then we can conclude you're a fan of strip mining?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:24pm.
It's about the only thing you haven't mentioned yet, so I'm just making a logical assumption....
Ask it again then.
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:12pm.
See if you can put it in the form of a complete sentence.
Sure: So then we can conclude you're a fan of strip mining?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:18pm.
See, just like the first time, only I added "Sure:"
Pot...kettle...black... Har
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:29pm.
Pot...kettle...black...
Harry, your spelling and grammar are far from stellar so you really should not be attempting (incorrectly) to correct someone else's grammar.
Harry Braun, Ahem, The Chinese aren't fond of the IPCC
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:09pm.
Well well your very first post, welcome troll.
How about this Christian scientist... Sir Isaac Newton
In the twentieth century, Einstein’s expanding universe and Heisenberg’s indeterminacy have undermined Newton’s clocklike model of nature. Nevertheless, mathematical physicist Stephen Hawking, a current Lucasian professor at Cambridge, writes that “Newton’s theory will never be outmoded. Designed to predict the motions of the heavenly bodies, it does its job with unbelievable accuracy … it remains in daily use to predict the orbits of moons and planets, comets and spacecraft.… Newton is a colossus without parallel in the history of science.”
He spent more time on theology than on science; indeed, he wrote about 1.3 million words on biblical subjects. Yet this vast legacy lay hidden from public view for two centuries until the auction of his nonscientific writings in 1936.
Moving on
These statements by Gore are sheer nonsense. While it is true that warmer air can hold more moisture than cold air, the temperature of the air has nothing to do with how much water vapor will ultimately be evaporated ( or as Gore puts it “soaked up” ) into it. That is determined solely by what is called the vapor pressure gradient that exists
between a sample of air that may overly a plane of water.
BTW Sea levels are falling...
You Didn't Build That.
What Makes You Think I'm Not a Christian?
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:18pm.
Incidentally, Al Gore is a Baptist.
Do you have a problem with Baptists?
Nope
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:29pm.
You Didn't Build That.
Apparently you have a problem
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:19pm.
Apparently you have a problem with truth. As in you are unable to present much of it.
Al Gore is a Spokesman
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:26pm.
Al Gore is a spokesman, not a scientist.
That said, most scientists are not public speakers.
If they were, this debate would be over already.
For a sample of what a brilliant looks and sounds like read:
Talent and Taste
http://harryhammer.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/talent-and-taste/
Harry you may be many things
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:40pm.
Harry you may be many things but "brilliant" isn't one of them.
According to NB records you
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:13pm.
According to NB records you joined over 40 weeks ago and this is your FIRST thread upon which to comment?
Liberal plant? Sock puppet? Definitely a troll. I knew I should have checked NB records first.
Nope
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:21pm.
I'm just a regular working stiff who knows how to write.
You can check out my non-profit blog if you like:
Harryhammer's Blog
Let me know if you like the photos.
Nahh...you're just another
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:13pm.
Nahh...you're just another planted troll. And clearly facts do not matter to you either. You lie. A lot. You're clearly trying to give Bill and Barack a challenge in the amount of lies you can tell.
Algorian Logic - New scientific Term
Submitted by billyjack on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:22pm.
A reasoning technique that entails reaching a conclusion about a subject in which one has no expertise and subsequently finding or creating factoids to support the supposition without using critical thinking skills or research to discern the obvious implausibility of the facts or the conclusion.
Keep in mind this moron is commenting on scientific assessments is the guy who couldn't pass a theology course, much less differential calculus.
Yeah but ...
Submitted by 10ksnooker on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:45pm.
You forgot to mention the investors on Al Gore's hook. There is the bite when you tell lies.
I wonder, are the lawsuits building?
Record setting low - by 12 degrees.
Submitted by BD on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:35pm.
It sucks to be a global warming warrior here in Cochise County this winter.
Last week we set record low temperatures for the past 100 years - by 12 degrees. Parts of old post Fort Huachuca set a record low of 3 degrees which beat the previous low of 15 degrees.
Pipes burst, particularly the yard irrigation systems.
Southwest Gas Company ran out of its supply and had to turn-off half of the town for a day.
Tucson, Bisbee, Benson, Sierra Vista, and Huahuca City had to open heating centers to allow those in RV's etc to go someplace to warm up.
And all the while people were wishing for some of that "Climate Change" all Gore talks about so frequently.
THis spring I am certain we will find significanlty more bodies of illegal aliens scattered about the desert than in normal years.
Ft. Huachuca & Bisbee
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:43pm.
Is the Copper Queen still open in Bisbee?
Fond memories, BD.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Yeah, they are still the
Submitted by BD on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 1:20pm.
Yeah, they are still the second classiest place to go on a saturday night. (Cafe Roka's still the best) though the food is better elsewhere in my opinion. You go to Copper Queen for the ambiance...
Bisbee got frozen as well the other night. I heard that it got down to zero in some neighborhoods though the weather station actually said 2 degrees. I am guessing the houses in Mule Pass were well below zero that night.
I was thinking of frosty beers on the patio
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:11pm.
I visited there many, many years ago, when I got engaged the first time. It was a fabulous trip. I'd never been to a desert before, I was in awe of all of the scenery. Very different from the tropics where I live and grew up.
Hope your Global Warming gets there soon, I have been a terrible GW miser this year, I've kept it all for myself.
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Yeah, for all the hoopla
Submitted by BD on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:24pm.
Yeah, for all the hoopla about Global Warming, it sure has been cold here this winter.
Surprisingly we have not had any significant snowfall here at the 5000 foot level this winter - I am sure Al Gore will insist that while it has been colder than normal, the lackos snowfall is due to global warming....
And we have begun finding the
Submitted by BD on Sun, 02/27/2011 - 12:27am.
And we have begun finding the bodies of the frozen illegals already.....
It's a Push
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 12:27pm.
In Canada we have been shattering high temperature records lately.
Record snowfall in HP revives 2,000 glaciers...
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:40pm.
[...] shattering high temperature records lately, Got a SCIENCE LINK?
MANALI: Record snowfall in Himachal this year has revived more than 2,000 glaciers.Almora's G B Pant Institute of Himalayan Environment and Development's senior scientist J C Kuniyal said apart from reviving the glaciers , this year's record snowfall would also boost the crop cycle. "It is difficult to understand the environment. As we start talking about the dry winters, record snowfall leaves stunned everyone," he said.
He cautioned that unequal snowfall remains a matter of concern. But Lahaul-Spiti has received more than 175-cm snow in first 16 days of February, breaking the earlier record of 148-cm for the month in 1998.
You Didn't Build That.
Ask Dirk Scherler
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:37pm.
One week after record low, Wichita reaches record high:http://www.ksn.com/news/local/story/One-week-after-record-low-Wichita-re...
Toronto breaks 27-year-old temperature record:http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110215/110215_weather/201...
Portage sets another weather recordhttp://www.portagedailygraphic.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2981150
One extreme to anotherhttp://www.kenoradailyminerandnews.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2983691
As for your commentary on glaciers:
Why don’t you ask Dirk Scherler what he thinks?
He may not share your religious worldview, but, he was the lead researcher and author of the study to which many deniers have been referring to lately.
You must have missed the part where he said “Overall in the Himalayas, the glaciers are retreating".
Thanks to the research of Dirk Scherler and his colleagues, we now know with relative certainty that glaciers melt less when they are covered by an insulating layer of rubble.
Thanks to the research of glaciologists from everywhere, we also know that without an insulating layer of rubble the rate of retreat of most glaciers remains high.
Just last weekend, it was announced that Greenland’s ice sheet melted at a record rate in 2010 and studies show that most of the world's glaciers are shrinking. Furthermore, many of the smaller glaciers are expected to disappear this century. Some are already gone.
The World Glacier Monitoring Service calculates that the Alps will lose about 70 per cent of its glaciers by 2050, while the Pyrenees may go completely ice-free.
Another study on the bigger, higher glaciers of the Himalayas concluded this month. They figure these glaciers may shrink by 10% by 2100.
The IPCC corrects their mistakes.
What about you?
IT JUST SNOWED THIS MONTH
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:03pm.
5 feet of snow in 16 days, all them rocks and whatnots are buried by ICE.
You Didn't Build That.
Glaciers retreat?
Submitted by Denny Crane on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 10:07pm.
Who knew?
We aren't in an ice age, of course they are retreating.
We need a better class of troll.
We Are The 53%
"Glaciers retreat?" Yeah,
Submitted by Beukeboom on Thu, 02/24/2011 - 10:29am.
"Glaciers retreat?"
Yeah, after they drop their weapons.
French Glaciers?
Submitted by Agnostic on Thu, 02/24/2011 - 1:14pm.
French Glaciers?
Oui
Submitted by Beukeboom on Thu, 02/24/2011 - 1:34pm.
Oui
Attention Mandrake:
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:04pm.
can't you do something about this?
And according to
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:22pm.
And according to meteorological records, Canada has broken all sorts of record lows this winter due, in part to La Nina. Try to present the whole picture not just your uber-lib misinformation/disinformation, Harry.
As I am writing this the
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:35pm.
As I am writing this the weather in Winnepeg is being reported thusly:
-9°C/15.8F RealFeel® -25°C/-13F Winds: S at 46 km Yesterday, 2/21/2011 in WINNIPEG, MB High Temperature: Actual: -13°C Average: -7°C Record: 6°C in 1982 Low Temperature: Actual: -27°C Average: -17°C Record: -37°C in 1966Why do
Submitted by 10ksnooker on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:35pm.
Liars always lie?
It's funny farm time for AlGore. I guess this is what happens to you when the investors come for you.
Speaking of Lies
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 12:30pm.
Climate sceptic 'misled Congress over funding from oil industry'Patrick Michaels, fellow at the Cato Institute, claimed 3% of his funding came from industry, later revealed that figure to be 40%
In 2009, Michaels said 3% of his $4.2m in financial support came from the oil and gas industry. But in an appearance on CNN in August last year, and in subsequent interviews, Michaels suggested that figure was 40%.The Global Warming Science Machine: $79 Billion and Counting
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:49pm.
Over the last two decades, US taxpayers have subsidized the American climate change industry to the tune of $79 billion. That’s the headline from Climate Money, a report published last month by the Science and Public Policy Institute.
You Didn't Build That.
ExxonMobil Gets Massive Tax Breaks
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:40pm.
End Big Oil's Tax Breaks, Invest in Efficiencyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwbiDaiLrkk
I agree. At least 200
Submitted by Miss_Me_Yet on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:35pm.
I agree. At least 200 minimum, more nuclear reactors up & running in America by 2035. Now that's energy efficiency, 100,000 +jobs and relatively pollution free self reliance for you.
Liberals ... we can't live with them, they couldn't survive without us ...
Yup, and Drill baby drill!
Submitted by BD on Sun, 02/27/2011 - 12:29am.
Yup, and Drill baby drill!
Ice Rage
Submitted by Crash on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:45pm.
This poor, pathetic. beta-type, anthropogenic warmist needs to drop Rush Limbaugh,s good name to make his point. If Rush lived under the crown ... he'd have a case for slander.
Eventually there will be Lawsuits
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 12:35pm.
It will happen much like it did with Big Tobacco and the Tobacco Institute.
Soon you will start to see more and more private lawsuits being filed against Big Oil, Big Coal, and specifically the American Petroleum Institute.
Big Oil and Big Coal will continue to fight these lawsuits for as long as they can get away with it, but, eventually there will be a master settlement and they will be forced to pay for the harm they have done to our planet.
The American Petroleum Institute's internal records will be made public, the Institute will be dissolved, and the world will finally know what these crooks and liars have been up to for the last 50 years.
Only in your dreams, Harry,
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:11pm.
Only in your dreams, Harry, only in your dreams.
Energy should be as cheap as oxygen
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:43pm.
Energy ought to be as cheap as oxygen.
Edison spoke of it:
"This scheme of combustion to get power makes me sick to think of–it is so wasteful. It is just the old, foolish Prometheus idea, and the father of Prometheus was a baboon.”
“When we learn how to store electricity, we will cease being apes ourselves; until then we are tailless orangutans. You see, we should utilize natural forces and thus get all of our power. Sunshine is a form of energy, and the winds and the tides are manifestations of energy.”
“Do we use them? Oh, no! We burn up wood and coal, as renters burn up the front fence for fuel. We live like squatters, not as if we owned the property."
“There must surely come a time when heat and power will be stored in unlimited quantities in every community, all gathered by natural forces. Electricity ought to be as cheap as oxygen, for it cannot be destroyed."
Read: The Edison of Our Age
http://harryhammer.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/the-edison-of-our-age/
Here is an example Nature Boy.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:10pm.
Northern New Brunswick wind turbines frozen solidThe 25-kilometre stretch of wind turbines, located 70 kilometres northwest of Bathurst, N.B. has been completely shutdown for several weeks due to heavy ice covering the blades.
Tell me about all then solar panels under the snow...
You Didn't Build That.
OMO, UPC!
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:31pm.
He's shaggin' his own blog!
Obviously he's a ChimpyMcHitler-Bush and Big Oil hater, Republican hater (his very first blog post was about this Youth-Creationist spew).
I wish I could post pictures here, but I'll link you to MY most excellent blog....where the Erius Wind Farm was not functioning, at least 2/3 of the mills weren't turning. Just another cool half a billion, no doubt funded by us as some sort of grand experiment.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Yup...it became apparent
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:17pm.
Yup...it became apparent early on that Harry was nothing but another uber-lib hate monger.
He's pulled this stunt on other political websites.
I imagine he's going to run afoul of NewsBusters management and be removed.
Blonde, He should be pushing Tesla not Edison.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 7:10pm.
Kuz he was killed by evil wire makers, for proposing wireless power systems.
It's a basic am radio.
He's not bright enough to know the difference..
You Didn't Build That.
Harrytroll is just a very
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:11am.
Harrytroll is just a very ignorant socialist from Canada. Canadians are so ashamed.
Irrelevant again, Harry. Your
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:23pm.
Irrelevant again, Harry. Your ignorance is astounding.
So his fat ass only comes out
Submitted by Thoreau on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:48pm.
So his fat ass only comes out and lies when I'm not buried under 6 feet of snow. I see how that works.
Come to Winnipeg
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 12:38pm.
Winnipeg is experiences record high temperatures as we speak.
Records drop and temperatures rise:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2011/02/14/mb-mild-weather-...
By the way, in case you didn't know, Winnipeg is in Canada.
Interesting that you would
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:20pm.
Interesting that you would omit all the record low temperatures in Winnipeg as well as throughout Canada.
Also you fail to grasp the La Nina effect or you are intentionally ignoring that as well.
It's cyclical, Harry.
"Winnipeg is experiences
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:38pm.
"Winnipeg is experiences record high temperatures as we speak."
Not according to current weather readings in Winnipeg.
Currently (as I type this) -9 degrees Cel.
You lie again, Harry.
Um, not really. I grew up
Submitted by BD on Sun, 02/27/2011 - 12:32am.
Um, not really. I grew up just over th eline from Winnepeg and they are NOT having a warm winter. In fact, they are getting heavyier snows than usual and flooding is expected again this spring when the snowfall melts.
Oh, and it is has been much COLDER than normal according to my family.....
Prosecute Gore
Submitted by AgentAmerican on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:48pm.
This fraud needs to be brought in front of Issa. Now.
Let's Start with the 9th Commandment
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 12:42pm.
There have been 5 separate independent inquiries that have looked into the Climategate case and reported on it.
On March 31, 2010, the Science and Technology Select Committee inquiry reported that the emails and claims raised in the controversy did not challenge the scientific consensus that “global warming is happening and that it is induced by human activity“. They also said that they had seen no evidence to support claims that Jones had tampered with data or interfered with the peer-review process.
On April 14, 2010, the Independent Science Assessment Panel published and concluded that the panel had seen “no evidence of any deliberate scientific malpractice in any of the work of the Climatic Research Unit.” It found that the CRU’s work had been “carried out with integrity” and had used “fair and satisfactory” methods. The CRU was found to be “objective and dispassionate in their view of the data and their results, and there was no hint of tailoring results to a particular agenda.” Instead, “their sole aim was to establish as robust a record of temperatures in recent centuries as possible.”
In July 2010, a British investigation commissioned by the UEA, chaired by Sir Muir Russell, announced and published in its final report that it had exonerated the scientists of manipulating their research to support preconceived ideas about global warming. The “rigour and honesty” of the scientists at the Climatic Research Unit were found not to be in doubt. The panel found that they did not subvert the peer review process to censor criticism as alleged, and that the key data needed to reproduce their findings was freely available to any “competent” researcher.
A separate review by Penn State University into accusations against Michael E. Mann cleared him of any wrongdoing, concluding that “there is no substance” to the allegations against him.
After the July 2010 reports, the New York Times referred to Climategate as a “manufactured controversy,” and expressed the hope that reports clearing the scientists “will receive as much circulation as the original, diversionary controversies,”.
The Columbia Journalism Review criticized newspapers and magazines for failing to give prominent coverage to the findings of the review panels, and said that “readers need to understand that while there is plenty of room to improve the research and communications process, its fundamental tenets remain as solid as ever.”
CNN media critic Howard Kurtz expressed similar sentiments.
In June 2010 Newsweek called the controversy a “highly orchestrated, manufactured scandal.”
You need to stop spreading disinformation and apologize to those you have wrongly accused.
Let's see...no links, no
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:26pm.
Let's see...no links, no substantiation, no background information, no sources provided.
Yup...your disinformation. Of course you've posted this same nonsense word-for-word on places such as Pajamas Media (under the ident of "Harryhammer") and TownHall (under the ident of "Harry").
Just another liberal troll you are, Harry. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid.
Don't give away the "G _ _ _ _ E" secret!
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:34pm.
If they find out about it, they may change tactics.
http://environmentalmentalism
Submitted by mememine69 on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:50pm.
http://environmentalmentalism.blogspot.com/
Journalists and News Editors that covered the climate change mistake for the last two and a half decades of needless panic, have done to science and truth and honesty and journalism, what abusive priests did for the Catholic Church. You lazy copy and paste clowns will sooner or later be charged with treason for leading your country to a false war of climate variation and for condemning our children to a death by CO2.
Meanwhile, the UN had allowed carbon trading to trump 3rd world fresh water relief, starvation rescue and 3rd world education for just over a quarter of a century of climate control instead of needed population control. Call the courthouse.
-A former believer and planet lover.
Pollution is real, death by CO2 was not.
Bring Your Expert Witnesses
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 12:57pm.
If we did go to court to settle this, who would you bring as your expert witnesses?
You'd bring James "Mountain Jim" Inhofe.
I'd bring the National Academy of Science of the United States.
You'd bring Patrick Michaels.
I'd bring the American Geophysical Union.
You'd bring Khabibullo Abdusamatov.
I'd bring NASA.
You'd bring Fred Singer.
I'd bring the American Institute of Physics.
You'd bring Henrik Svensmark.
I'd bring every scientific organization in the world because they are all in agreement with the conclusions of the IPCC.
As a matter of fact, the Republican Party is the only political party in the world to be in denial.
I heard Elmo will soon be available
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:21pm.
Might want to touch base with his agent.
"I'd bring every scientific
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:27pm.
"I'd bring every scientific organization in the world because they are all in agreement with the conclusions of the IPCC."
Actually they aren't "all in agreement" but you've been lying all along anyway.
Scientific Opinion on Climate Change is Clearly Identifiable
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:46pm.
It’s given by an amalgamation of reports produced by scientific bodies, of both national and international standing, and by surveys of the opinions of climate scientists from everywhere including Canada and the U.S.
The most recent survey was in 2010:
A 2010 paper in the proceedings of NAS of U.S. reviewed publication and citation data for 1,372 climate researchers and resulted in the following two conclusions:
(i) 97–98% of the climate researchers most actively publishing in the field support the tenets of ACC (Anthropogenic Climate Change) outlined by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
(ii) the relative climate expertise and scientific prominence of the researchers unconvinced of ACC are substantially below that of the convinced researchers.
Only a very small percentage of below par researchers share the dissenting opinion.
Again, Harry, the fact
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:25pm.
Again, Harry, the fact remains that they aren't "all in agreement" but you've been lying all along anyway.
You are so dishonest you won't even provide links to much of what you post because in every instance that I dug up where you got the info, it turns out you lied about it.
Do you notice the expression on Al's face?
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:57pm.
This poison spitting anger flows deeply within these democrats. As their failing cons and policies are exposed, note the rats spitting more and more.
Odd...
Submitted by C-townGiant on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 1:27pm.
I thought it was constipation.
Wll Gore is full of it.
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:28pm.
But, I think it's the rabid rat you're seeing here.
It takes one to know one
Submitted by wingnut55 on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:59pm.
All this blaming Rush the first thing that came to my mind is, "It takes one to know one". Al has been doing this since he became an adult and maybe before that. His father did it before him and he learned from a master and a member of the Dixie-crats, Al Gore Sr.
George Bush Learned from his Granfather
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:02pm.
George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
Look it up.
You made the claim thus the
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:31pm.
You made the claim thus the onus probandi rests upon you to provide proof.
However upon actually looking into it, it becomes obvious that it was not as you described.
You lied.
You won't find it on Conservapedia
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:55pm.
“Bush - Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951” - Federal Documents
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=1176
Tarpley's book has long since
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:31pm.
Tarpley's book has long since been debunked. Your website is unreliable.
Actual facts presented here.
More false information from
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:36pm.
More false information from you. See here for accurate information.
You really don't want to go down the "guilt by association" route, Harry, because it turns around and bites you.
Maybe the 'inconvienient
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:59pm.
Maybe the 'inconvienient truth' is starting to cut in on ALGORE's income producing scam....... we KNOW that this phony, who ISN'T the sharpest knife in the drawer, could care less about this crap that he's trying to sell...............look at how HE lives!!!!!
Here's a Real Scam
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:05pm.
The most profitable corporation in history pays no taxes at all and is a major funder of global warming denial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwbiDaiLrkk
Troll. No substantiation
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:37pm.
Troll.
No substantiation once again.
Watch the Video
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:56pm.
It's only 20 minutes long.
It's from the floor of the House.
No substantiation once again.
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:32pm.
No substantiation once again.
Whatch the video.
Submitted by Denny Crane on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 11:56pm.
Hahahahahaha
Avowed socialist Bernie Sanders speaks his opinions on the House floor, and the braunsicle thinks it's the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. HAHAHAHAHAA
We Are The 53%
Wow!!! I've been at work all
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 2:22am.
Wow!!! I've been at work all day (hey, I have a national debt to support!!!) and then I had a nice surf session until dark..............and I come back to THIS??? Jeez - these clown has blown up the thread - and from what I can tell, he's not coming up 7's or 11's!!! But it obviously hasn't stopped him from continuing to push his agenda. I'd say that he's probably fortunate that the Vet hasn't picked up on this thread - although I think everybody else is doing a great job. But, you know............the Vet........it gets pretty..............intense??? Hahahahahahaha!!!
Hey - if a guy is defending ALGORE - what else do you need to know????
Ho Brah
Submitted by Denny Crane on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 9:13am.
U no wat dis one dum haole was tryin for say. He tink dat one guy dat is more far lef dan our new govner Abacrumbie is goin to say da tru kine bout da hot summa, an da small kine snow on Hale'akela!
We Are The 53%
Wo wo wo Denny!!! You stay
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 02/24/2011 - 2:12am.
Wo wo wo Denny!!! You stay live here on the aina?? Where you stay??? Us 'right wing pupule jobs'..........we gotta stick together!!!
As for Neil Uber-Commie............that falkah was one rabble-rouser when I been go to UH, and the buggah is STILL one full-on commie!!! And that bastahd no can find da birth certificate!!!
As for dis Harry whatevahs he stay called.................da buggah is lame to da max!!!!!
He's just using this
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:15am.
He's just using this particular NewsBusters thread to promote his blog and cut-and-paste his meager blog entries here. He did that on other conservative political sites and got banned. I am hoping NB administration take the same action and remove Harrytroll. Note that he's posted comments on this sole thread.
As I correctly pointed out to
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:13am.
As I correctly pointed out to Harrytroll: no substantiation whatsoever.
It does serve one useful purpose: it pushed Harrytroll beyond uber-liberal to socialist. Not surprising but it does all add up.
Gore Said: "the game is over for us"
Submitted by Boil It Down on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:59pm.
Gore is either in some psychotic denial, or a very evil and greedy liar. Which ever of these proves to be true, he is gaining no support for this scam. His motives and perosnality disorders become more transparent by the day. The new "Forests at Risk" exaggeration runs absolutely counter to the scientists I've read about the effects of CO2 in a changing climate.
31,486 actual scientists (9,029 of whom have earned a Phd,) generated and signed a petition rejecting the hyperbole of “global warming”. In the cover letter they said: "Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.”
There is, of course, a very compelling argument for being good stewards of the our Earth. There is not, however, any compelling cause to spend untold billions and legislating human behavior to fix something over which we have very little control. It is either monumentally arrogant or profoundly ignorant to think we puny humans can lord it over nature and wrestle it into submission.
Yes Al, "the game is over". It is no longer possible to sell your questionable science to squeeze obscene amounts of money out of the public and justify further expansion of government to control the masses. Sorry, the people just weren't as stupid as you had counted on. I guess you should have done a lot more research on people and the climate both before you bet your last dollar on this scam.
200,000,000 gallons of oil just spilled into the ocean
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:12pm.
That's not being a good steward.
If you truly cared about being a good steward of the earth, you’d be livid over the devastating oil spills that have been occurring.
There have been at least 20 major oil spills to date. By major, I mean 30,000 US gallons or more. That equals about 100,000 tons of oil. Additionally, the list of substantial oil spills is as long as your arm. In the most recent spill in the Gulf of Mexico 200,000,000 gallons of crude oil poured into the ocean.
Speaking of oil spills:
Do you remember the Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska?
About 38,000 people were negatively affected by that event and a jury found Exxon guilty and awarded $287,000,000 in compensatory damages and $5,000,000,000 in punitive damages to the plaintiffs.
That was over 17 years ago.
Exxon responded by hiring a team of lawyers which endlessly appealed both the charges and amount. They spent about $600,000,000 in legal fees, and eventually had the award reduced to about 1/10th of the original. They managed to do this despite the fact that according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), as of 2010, approximately 26,000 gallons of Valdez crude oil remains in Alaska's sand and soil.
Additionally, aside from the dead wildlife tally, almost all of the volunteers who helped to clean up that spill are now sick, dead, or dying. That’s right, all of them. CNN reported that the average life expectancy of the Valdez volunteers was 51 years. Most died from various forms of cancer and lung problems associated with breathing in the fumes that emanate from the toxic sludge.
By the way, ExxonMobil is the most profitable company in world history and they pay virtually no taxes at all.
More misinformation with no
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:38pm.
More misinformation with no source citation. You lie.
About What?
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:00pm.
What part of it do you think is a lie?
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:02pm.
Did the spill not happen?
Did the court cases not happen?
Look it up for yourself, dummy.
Harry, take your hate
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:19pm.
Harry, take your hate mongering and your lies back to underneath from whatever rock under which you crawed.
Charlatan and crook...
Submitted by iveseenitall on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 1:07pm.
Would you buy a used car from this guy? I heard five people "lost" their wallets at that conference.
BTW---the left continues to disrespect you. Imagine, this moron (and I mean MORON) implying that people can't think for themselves. Scheeze!
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
You need to stop listening to Rush Limbaugh
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:20pm.
The next time you are sitting in your gas guzzling pick-up truck listening to Rush Limbaugh on the radio while you eat your lunch, think of this:
In 2008, Limbaugh renewed his contract with Premier Radio Networks through 2016 for $400 million dollars. It included a $100 million signing bonus and $38 million a year for eight years.
Rush Limbaugh's actual net worth is not publicly released, as he is not part of a public corporation or any other entity which requires public disclosure. He has never voluntarily released his net worth publicly.
Who has more wealth, Rush Limbaugh or Al Gore?
OOOH, a pickup truck slur!
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:27pm.
Let me guess... you either walk or bike to work.
Notice I made no mention of a Prius.
Irrelevant. Troll.
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:38pm.
Irrelevant.
Troll.
Your point is as irrelevant as you are.
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:42pm.
Nobody cares about either's net worth, only how they acquired it. One entertains on a radio show, and gets paid well for it.
The other is irrelevant.
YOU are dismissed.
You need to stop listening to Al Gore
Submitted by Denny Crane on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 12:04am.
Rush limbaugh has made millions speaking the truth as he sees it.
Al Gore has made millions by scamming the wolrd and selling snake skin (he can't sell snake oil).
You know he is lying when he makes a documentary and then buys a mansion in SF in a location that he is predicting will be underwater in a few years.
We Are The 53%
I HOPE that Rush has a much
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 2:31am.
I HOPE that Rush has a much higher net worth than ALGORE - because he actually DID something productive to EARN it, and he did it HIS way!!! What the f**ing hell has ALGORE done to make ANYBODY's life better, other than his own??? The guy hasn't been in the 'real' world his whole life..................I'd like to compare him to Boy Blunder, but I'd have to say that it would be a hard comparison, since they are both such delusional idiots...................and the SICK thing about it is - they're both in very high positions of power, which scares the holy s**t out of me!!! I mean. ALGORE almost became President!!! (And you think Bush was bad??? Let's consider ALGORE, John F-ing Kerry, and Boy Blunder..........and - 'do you miss me yet???'
If you tripled ALGORE's IQ, it still wouldn't make the first cut, compared to Rush. And if ALGORE had to make it in the 'real' world, he's be starving, and probably lose about 100 pounds of his lardass global warming. I wouldn't hire that dipsh*t to sweep my floors................
Another open letter from a
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 1:09pm.
Another open letter from a friend:
Dear Al,
Pot...kettle...black...
Hardly anyone is buying your lies anymore. It's becoming clear that even you're not buying it. You just happen to be set up to make millions off the gullible who are buying your lies.
You're "Mr. Irrelevant"!
Sincerely,
Captain Obvious
Hardly Anyone?
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:26pm.
You mean, hardly any conservative Republicans in America.
The Republican Party is the only political party in the world to be in denial of the conclusions of the IPCC.
Where did you graduate?
Huh?
What?
Show me your high school transcript.
Harry, you got nothing but
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:34pm.
Harry, you got nothing but your lies, misinformation and disinformation. You've already been exposed as a liar. And a liberal. But I repeat myself.
Will this FAILed politican
Submitted by ReaganRuled on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 1:34pm.
Will this FAILed politican whom couldn't even win his own home state .. (the people who knew him best), FAILed divinity school (with all due respect to the fine clergy, how dim do you have to be to flunk out of divinity school?), FAILed as a Veep, FAILed in his most sacred oath -- his marriage, and now has FAILed as a charlatan of one of the greatest hoaxes in the history of mankind (and maybe for that we should give him credit -- then again, you can credit that to the average Greenie-Weenie rube who bought his whole cult and also bought the Hoax'nChains scam and failed to vette THAT charlatan) -- just WHEN will he take the billions he defrauded the taxpayers and corporations and GO AWAY, never to be heard or seen of again?!!!
The Republicans Stole the 2000 Presidential Election
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:35pm.
The final count of the popular vote:
George W. Bush - 50,456,002 votes.
Al Gore - 50,999,897 votes.
The voters were defrauded by the Repbublican Party.
Too bad there's this thing called the Electoral College
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:45pm.
Don't you have a bridge to be guarding?
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Yep...trolling
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:07pm.
When confronted with FACTS....the crickets chirping always give away the trolls.
P.S. You will not be receiving an invitation to join the PESKY FACT CLUB.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
And you're ignorant of the
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:31pm.
And you're ignorant of the electoral college. There was no fraud, Harry. Just another lib lie. you seem to forget that the courts upheld the election results.
Electoral votes:
Bush 271
Gore 266
Harry, since you don't know how Washington works let me edify you on a little point that seems to have escaped your weak grasp of reality.
The Electoral College is the body that formally elects the President and Vice President of the United States. I suggest you look at Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution. You seem to believe the election of the President and Vice President is by direct election by U.S. citizenry. That's not how it works. The U.S. citizenry's votes determine the electors who represent the states. The 12th amendment provides for each elector to cast a vote for Pres. and a vote for VP. And the 23rd amendment addresses how many electorates the District of Columbia has.
I suggest you actually try to learn some facts and visit http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/
Go sell it to the Martians, Al
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 1:25pm.
After all, we all know it's those eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil Martian republicans driving around in their huge SUV's that is the reason the polar ice caps on Mars are melting, don't we?
BTW, Al, it was your own climate "scientists" that ultimately pulled the rug out from under your little scam, as their fraudulent research did more to undermine AGW than Rush, Fox, and the WSJ combined.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Yes NASA, No NASA
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:42pm.
The only reason you anything at all about the climate on Mars is because of the hard work done by scientists working at NASA.
Needless to say, the scientists at NASA totally disagree with you.
Relax Harry.
Submitted by Agnostic on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:35pm.
Yes, most of NASA says there is global warming and most say it is at least in part caused by man. Few agree exactly what this means for the future. NASA had done a lot of work concerning global warming but even they don't address the warming of other planets and their moons. Could it be they are funded by government and since they will no longer being doing active space exploration they need to have so crisis to solve/investigate to qualify for their grants and increases in budgets? Just a question and no more or less skeptical than your projected dislike of corporations - especially Exxon.
In all your research, assuming you just aren't parrotting from another site, did you come across the fact that Exxon is also a world leader in research in alternative fuels and methods of conservation? A large part of why they get government money is because of this fact and their charitable contributions.
Even if Edison was right about stored energy it doesn't mean we have the technology yet. However, it will most likely be one of those 'evil' corporations that discover the methods.
Actually Harry, NASA doesn't
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:55pm.
Actually Harry, NASA doesn't "totally disagree" -- in actuality more NASA scientists are now realizing they were wrong and are questioning the global warming evidence they initially took as gospel. Turns out they are finding some questionable results and methodology which puts a damper again on the global warming apologists like yourself.
I mentioned algore and trees yesterday... algore and trees lol.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 1:29pm.
Algore ranted about the beetle kill in the state la de da warming.
I remember as a kid living there, seeing old photos of hills once devoid of trees, now covered.... Oh the evil gold/silver miners cut em all down, is what I heard.
The question should be:Where Have All the Grasslands GoneMore over there on the link below, if you want fight the NB jumping thread (good thing it's close to the bottom, so not so much scrolling)
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/02/19/weekend-open-thread#comment-1439669
Thanks Noel for your years of tracking the algore heat signature.
Mooshelles 40 mile grid lock ride into Vail and algore jetting and spewing all over Aspen, at the same time what a crappy day, for the locals.
You Didn't Build That.
Was Al Gore in Aspen last week?
Submitted by ThisnThat on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 1:38pm.
I hope he turned off the lights, and turned the thermostats down in his climate-changing mansion, and took a commerical flight.
__________
“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
It's interesting that you
Submitted by cathartic1 on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 1:40pm.
It's interesting that you point to an article about the nine scientific errors, but yet carefully point to a link that doesn't show any agreement by the same judge on the overall problem:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article2633838.ece
Key points that you overlooked:
"He agreed that Mr Gore’s film was “broadly accurate” in its presentation of the causes and likely effects of climate change but said that some of the claims were wrong and had arisen in “the context of alarmism and exaggeration...
Despite finding nine significant errors the judge said many of the claims made by the film were fully backed up by the weight of science. He identified “four main scientific hypotheses, each of which is very well supported by research published in respected, peer-reviewed journals and accords with the latest conclusions of the IPCC”.
In particular, he agreed with the main thrust of Mr Gore’s arguments: “That climate change is mainly attributable to man-made emissions of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide (‘greenhouse gases’).”
The other three main points accepted by the judge were that global temperatures are rising and are likely to continue to rise, that climate change will cause serious damage if left unchecked, and that it is entirely possible for governments and individuals to reduce its impacts."
Thanks for stopping by NB, Mr. Hansen
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:06pm.
Things a little slow at NASA today are they?
Yeah, I guess it is a little unnerving having to wait around to get the news that the new management in the House of Representatives has yanked your funding.
Perhaps they will get around to it before the end of the week.
Maybe Al will give you a job keeping the fleet of SUVs he has parked around his palatial mansion spic, span, and bird-dropping free.
Oh, and be sure to start washing the roof first and then work your way down to the wheels and tires. That way you don't have to rinse the same area multiple times.
:-)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
→ And paint his roof white
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:12pm.
Definitely need to paint the roof of that Escalade white.
Sort of looks European, doesn't it?
That all you got?
Submitted by cathartic1 on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:28pm.
That all you got?
Hey Cathy -- She's got more
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:31pm.
Hey Cathy -- She's got more than you.
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
Right. Makes perfect sense to
Submitted by cathartic1 on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:42pm.
Right. Makes perfect sense to me.
Glad to hear it. Because you
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 4:18pm.
Glad to hear it. Because you make no sense to anyone with a functioning brain.
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
Good evening Jack
Submitted by cocodrie on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 4:32pm.
Go easy on him, he's one of the few surviving brain transplant donors.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Ha. Yes. The problem in the
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 9:17pm.
Ha. Yes. The problem in the world is not ignorant people. It's half-educated people with the vote.
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
That's all you got
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:37pm.
Ok. Genius (=="that's all you got") answer my question:
We have gone through seven ice ages. That's seven times the earth has transitioned from hot to cold and back. All that before man walked the planet and burned his first piece of coal.
HOW IS IT THAT MAN IS NOW THE CAUSE OF CLIMATE FLUCTUATION?
and the crickets can begin chirping.
I would imagine that would
Submitted by cathartic1 on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:46pm.
I would imagine that would depend on the cause of each one. I'm not familiar with the ins and outs of every single change - but lemme guess: meteor strike? The beginning stages of the earth wherein there wasn't much vegatation to absorb the CO2 being created? Something along those lines?
Great non answer..............
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 3:27pm.
"Gee....I dunno about that other stuff". Proof perhaps? Meteor eh?? Proof??!! All 7 times we went from an ice age and back.....I guess it all "depends".....great response Mr. Science!
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
I'm not familiar with the ins
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 9:13pm.
I'm not familiar with the ins and outs of every single change - but lemme guess:
You don't know, but you'll guess. Yes, that's how science works exactly.
Obviously a diligent student of Professor Gore.
Hey, I don't know if this green mold can do me any harm, but I guess not, lemme just eat it.
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
Jack
Submitted by MrShy on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:05pm.
Hey, I don't know if this green mold can do me any harm, but I guess not, lemme just eat it.
Ding. Ding.
*** WINNER -- FUNNIEST LINE TODAY @ NB ***
EDIT: Oops, appears Jack is on a roll (hold the lettuce) and he's taking home TWO awards....
Sure that sounds very plausible to me! Where's my GRANT??
- Shy Vinyl
Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent
Based on your answer
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:24pm.
I can more than imagine you're a fool and a lemming.
Manmade Global Warming to
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:37pm.
Manmade Global Warming to STOP EARTH'S ROTATION at some point. Or something.
Many peer reviewed studies say so!
You know what "peer reviewed" means in the non-science religion of Global warming?
Some hack who ageres with you, and is in the pay of BIG ECO, peered at the pile of manure and said:
sure that sounds very plausible to me! Where's my GRANT??
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
Cool,
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 3:35pm.
LOL - Yeah, I had forgotten about that. Maybe if he reflects enough heat back into the atmosphere he can get the thermometers rising again so he can start scaring the Hell out of the hopelessly gullible. Again.
And it would definitely look less Amurrican, which is always a plus for Al and his ilk.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
cathartic1, So a link to an article that's about 4 years old.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 3:17pm.
Looking at weather/climate as a history course is fun.
A history that's heavely funded by folks that have a vested insterest in making money, by trading CARBON... not as pretty as tulips,
Now a brand new science link:Forensic Meteorology Solves the Mystery of Record Snows
Shovel ready Bar graph.
Burr bar graph
You Didn't Build That.
HYPOCRITE GOLBOL WARMING GORE.
Submitted by SnapTie on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 1:50pm.
He Al,can i take your 100 ft. yacht out for a spin? Hey Al,how about you put me up in your $9 million ocean front California mansion? Nope your a peon.
The House should hold new hearings . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:07pm.
. . . and subpoena Gore to testify under oath. Then bring in the climate scientists like Prof. Lindzen at MIT to rip Gore's testimony apart.
C-SPAN will cover the whole thing, and they'll be a video record of Gore self-destructing.
Chicken Little
Submitted by sarge329 on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 3:18pm.
If Albore is to be believed, he is the new Chicken Little. After all, from 2000 to 2007 when the temperature rose 1 degree per year for seven years, and then dropped 7 degrees the following year, there was a net gain of... wait for it.. zero degrees. We had a net snowfall in the last two months of over 2 feet, closer to 3 feet in some places. It got up to 70 degrees twice in the last week, and today our high will be a scorching 28 degrees, with a wind chill temperature of 12 blazing degrees. Global warming, you say? The sky is falling, the sky is falling.
It's dead.
Submitted by Ashrak on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 3:32pm.
No, not the planet, the global warming debacle.
Gore can flounder about, this way and that, but it is not going to change the reality. The books were cooked and he has been exposed as a fraud. The IPCC has itself admitted that it is a social justice entity and used Gore and his ilk for gain on that front.
It is over and Republicans going on record against the IPCC, to directly strip it of taxpayer funding, shows that to be true.
It is over.
All this conspiracy...
Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 3:53pm.
All this conspiracy, and yet you STILL manage to make millions of dollars, and travel millions of miles at someone else's expense, while promoting Global Warming, right Al? If there is a conspiracy, it most not be a very good one. So, Al, just what are you worried about?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Al Gore
Submitted by Bob K on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 4:01pm.
"Why won't anyone listen to me! I'm super serial!!"
Al was overheard in his
Submitted by Miss_Me_Yet on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 4:03pm.
Al was overheard in his personal booth at the local BurgerKing stating, hey that's my job, they better knock it off.
Liberals ... we can't live with them, they couldn't survive without us ...
For next time, Noel
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 4:13pm.
Hey Noel, for next time you bring up something about AlGore and I'm sure there will be(just can't go away quietly, can he!), maybe some video clips of Gore being lampooned in South Park might be in order? That cartoon character now has more credibility than the real thing talking about ManBearPig.
Excelsior! ;-)
-Jon
Should we expect anything
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 4:56pm.
Should we expect anything less from a man who was on his knees with his pants around his ankles in chinese temple offering wind power in exchange for money.
Seriously, that fat turd Al
Submitted by fitzfong on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 5:53pm.
Seriously, that fat turd Al Gore is the greatest single liability this country has.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
Another monumentally stupid thing Al Gore has said...
Submitted by TempusFugit on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 8:30pm.
He claimed their objective was "to transform global warming into a theory rather than a fact"
...that makes his highlight reel next to the statement "the Earth is several million degrees just below the surface", and I'm sure there are plenty of others as well. I was taught in college science courses 30 years ago that there is no such thing as science fact. You have hypotheses, theories or laws. According to the US National Academy of Science:
Some scientific explanations are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them. The explanation becomes a scientific theory. In everyday language a theory means a hunch or speculation. Not so in science. In science, the word theory refers to a comprehensive explanation of an important feature of nature supported by facts gathered over time.
Shut up Al, you truly are embarrassing yourself. Mr. Wizard you ain't. Or even his sidekick Timmy for that matter
Fat Al is trying to "flex-up"
Submitted by Diesel on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 8:48pm.
Fat Al thinks he can "flex-up" on El Rushbo 'cause Olbermann (AlGore's "Chief News Officer" lol!) is his new attack chihuahua.
Sure. Why not. It's not like
Submitted by freecitizen on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 7:25am.
Sure. Why not. It's not like Al Gore has any credibility left to lose at this point. The hardcore believer and the woefully ignorant are all he has left. This message is apparently for them.
Al Gore is Piss Poor
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 11:57am.
Compared to the folks that are funding "denial" Al Gore is piss poor.
Koch Industries is the largest privately owned company in the United States.
The Koch brothers are so rich, they own numerous think tanks.
Koch has shown the remarkable ability to get rid of or modify environmental policies and other government rules that it doesn't like.
They fund the entire Tea Party movement:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Tea_Party
Harry,
Submitted by Ashrak on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 12:36pm.
As much as some would like to believe, there is no "entire Tea Party" to fund in the first place. Thus, false premise is demonstrated from the start.
The Saul tactics no not work against a group of individuals, most especially against a group of Individual Freemen.
Not Tactic, Fact
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:48pm.
Your unawareness of G.W. Bush's propensity to squash constitutional freedoms speaks volumes of your overall lack of understanding.
From Sourcewatch:
In an article in the August 30, 2010 issue of The New Yorker magazine, author Jane Mayer links the billionaire brothers David Koch and Charles Koch, owners of Koch Industries to tea party movement funding. Mayer writes,
Reports indicate that the Tea Party Movement benefits from millions of dollars from conservative foundations that are derived from wealthy U.S. families and their business interests. Is appears that money to organize and implement the Movement flows primarily through two conservative groups: Americans for Prosperity and FreedomWorks.
In an April 9, 2009 article on ThinkProgress.org, Lee Fang reports that the principal organizers of Tea Party events are Americans for Prosperity and Freedom Works, two "lobbyist-run think tanks" that are "well funded" and that provide the logistics and organizing for the Tea Party movement from coast to coast. Media Matters reported that David Koch of Koch Industries was a co-founder of Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE), the predecessor of FreedomWorks. David Koch was chairman of the board of directors of CSE.[2] CSE received substantial funding from David Koch of Koch Industries, which is the largest privately-held energy company in the country, and the conservative Koch Family Foundations, which make substantial annual donations to conservative think tanks, advocacy groups, etc. Media Matters reported that the Koch family has given more than $12 million to CSE (predecessor of FreedomWorks) between 1985 and 2002.[3][4]
Koch Industries has denied specifically funding Freedomworks or tea parties directly, however. The company's director of communications wrote ""Koch companies value free speech and believe it is good to have more Americans engaged in key policy issues. That said, Koch companies, the Koch foundations, Charles Koch and David Koch have no ties to and have never given money to FreedomWorks. In addition, no funding has been provided by Koch companies, the Koch foundations, Charles Koch or David Koch specifically to support the tea parties." Koch's director of communications did affirm, however, that the company funds Americans for Prosperity (AFP). TPM's Lee Fang reports that "AFP was founded in part by the company's Executive Vice President, David Koch. He is currently the chairman of the board of the Americans for Prosperity Foundation." [5][6]
Media Matters also lists the Sarah Scaife Foundation as having given a total of $2.96 million in funding to FreedomWorks.[7] The Sarah Mellon Scaife Foundation is financed by the Mellon industrial, oil, and banking fortune. [8]
The Claude R. Lambe Foundation, also controlled by the Koch family, has donated more than $3 million to Americans for Prosperity. [9]
The Global Warming Science Machine: $79 Billion and Counting
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 1:52pm.
The report’s author, Joanne Nova, points to a “well funded, highly organized climate monopoly” that she says is spending billions of dollars without any proper scientific audits.
You Didn't Build That.
"Your unawareness of G.W.
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:36pm.
"Your unawareness of G.W. Bush's propensity to squash constitutional freedoms speaks volumes of your overall lack of understanding."
Since it didn't happen...
More lies from you, Harry. Now go back to your rock and leave the adults alone.
Harry, Sourcewatch is another
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 3:42pm.
Harry, Sourcewatch is another discredited liberal propoganda site which fails to document much of its claims (just like you).
And Media Matters? Really, Harry? That discredited smear site.
No wonder you cannot defend yourself. You are an unarmed opponent full of sound and fury signifying nothing.
In case you didn't notice
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:28pm.
In case you didn’t know, Rupert Murdoch took over the media in America.
Murdoch and the Bush administration made a good deal for themselves. In exchange for uncritically and enthusiastically supporting the Bush administration and the invasion of Iraq, Murdoch was allowed to break all the rules, become an American citizen overnight, and go on an endless buying spree of American media outlets.
You must recall Murdoch’s pro-war stance?
After the invasion of Iraq an enterprising journalist, Roy Greenslade, reviewed the editorial stance of the 175 Murdoch-owned newspapers worldwide. Each and every one of them supported the invasion.
This is what Greenslade had to say:
“After an exhaustive survey of the highest-selling and most influential papers across the world owned by Murdoch’s News Corporation, it is clear that all are singing from the same hymn sheet. Some are bellicose baritone soloists who relish the fight. Some prefer a less strident, if more subtle, role in the chorus. But none, whether fortissimo or pianissimo, has dared to croon the anti-war tune. Their master’s voice has never been questioned.”
To Murdoch’s credit, he doesn’t even pretend that the editors he employs are allowed to exercise independent judgment when it comes to questions of serious importance to him – like war (yes) and clean air (no).
Read: The Man Who Owns the Wall Street Journal
https://harryhammer.wordpress.com/2010/03/15/the-man-who-owns-the-wall-s...
"In case you didn’t
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:45pm.
"In case you didn’t know, Rupert Murdoch took over the media in America."
Pardon me for a moment...
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!
Thanks for the laugh Harry but I have to ask you, what color is the sky in your world? 'Cause it sure isn't the same as the sky in the real world. You need to lay off the Kool-Aid and also lay off the drugs. You can't afford to lose any more brain cells.
Rupert!
Submitted by Agnostic on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:50pm.
is that the same Rupert Murdoch that supported Hillary Clinton?
Harry All Braun No Brains
Submitted by MrShy on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:11pm.
In case you didn’t know, Rupert Murdoch took over the media in America.
Thanks Harry, I've already destroyed one of my laptops with liquids. Now it's two.
You say that, and yet you're on this site, which exists solely to pound you idiot liberals with dozens of examples and sourced/linked/video-taped PROOF -- each and every day of the week -- that the ones who have "taken over the media" are those on the deranged left.
- Shytini
Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent
Now I remember you
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 11:08pm.
You were one of those lefties gettin' back to your roots at that Kock bros. protest.
Fine, upstanding individuals y'all are.
C-ya.
So what is the going price for a think tank, SorosBot?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:52pm.
Seeing how you used that as a yardstick to measure how rich the Koch brothers are.
isn't it curious
Submitted by spepper on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:29pm.
Isn't it curious, that the "scientists" who are on the federal dole (Mann, et al) are the ones who, just like a broken clock that's correct at only 2 instances per day, making it wrong on the other 23 hours, 59 minutes, and 58 seconds of every day, predictably spew the "government line" about human-caused global warming/climate distruption/insert your favorite tag line here-- and therefore all of human activity, including BREATHING, must be regulated, taxed, and ultimately, STOPPED.....
You will save heaps
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:37pm.
What do you spend on gas each year?
Moore’s law is named after Intel co-founder Gordon E. Moore.
In 1965, he wrote a paper describing a long-term trend in computing hardware. The paper noted that the number of components in integrated circuits had doubled every year and that this trend would continue "for at least ten years".
Moore’s predictions have proved to be incredibly accurate. In fact, Moore’s law is now used in the semiconductor industry to guide long-term planning and to set targets for research and development as it applies to things like:
· Processing speed
· Memory capacity
· The number of pixels in digital cameras
· Sensors, etc.
Additionally, the potential of many of the digital electronic devices that we use today are strongly linked to Moore's law. All of these technologies are improving at (roughly) exponential rates. For example, if you buy an iPhone today, it's twice as good as it was two years ago for about half the cost.
Republicans want to break Moore’s law because Moore’s law also applies to solar energy technology. Solar is improving at such a rate that it will soon be able to compete with fossil fuels. This exponential growth of solar energy has continued through thick and thin.
Today, solar is still more expensive than fossil fuels, and in most situations it still needs subsidies or special circumstances, but the costs are coming down rapidly. In fact, we are only a few years away from grid parity. Grid parity is the point at which an alternative means of generating electricity is at least as cheap as grid power.
Just like with plasma TV’s and computers, the price of solar technology is going to keep coming down, and people will gravitate towards it because of economics. It won’t be a political issue and it won’t matter if people don’t care about the environment.
The bottom line is you and everybody else will be much better off.
You can spend the money you save on gas on whatever your little heart desires.
More lies from you, Harry.
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:43pm.
More lies from you, Harry.
That is great Harry
Submitted by Agnostic on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 4:47pm.
We can now stop subsidizing solar power because it is viable source of power. Or did you mean the more accurate statement that it can compete with fossil fuels as long as all loses are covered by the tax payers?
Big Oil is subsidized by the tax payers right now
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:39pm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwbiDaiLrkk
Wow! Harry
Submitted by Agnostic on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:18pm.
It is so clear that you don't look below the surface and just take the propaganda as it comes. I've already addressed a very small part of Exxon but I'm sure you didn't get a chance to read that post. Not to worry. It is funny that Big Government people like you have no problem with the government taking 60-75% of what you earn and yet scream like babies when a corporation makes 2-7% profit on what they earn.
You have some beautiful country up there in Canada and I would suggest you take some time and spend it in nature and learn what conservation is all about and take a break from the liberals feeding you one side of the story. I know it is impossible to get away from the liberal mind-washing up there unless you get out into the open spaces. Clearly you are stressed and could use the down time.
No, it doesn't
Submitted by CobraMan on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:03pm.
"Republicans want to break Moore’s law because Moore’s law also applies to solar energy technology"
No, it doesn't. Moore was referring to the number of electronic components one could fit into a given area of silicon semi-conductor (one square centimeter). He was referring to our ability to shrink the size of the components imprinted upon that crystal, the size of the copper pathways, the size of the transistors, ect, using advancing technology. What does that have to do with photovoltaics? It has nothing to do with it. Other than decreasing the size of the chips used to control things like solar tracking or voltages regulators, Moore's law doesn't apply to photovoltaics.
You see, there's only so much photovoltaic energy you can get from a silicon crystal, a fixed upper limit. That limit is fixed by physics and isn't depended upon the size of the components embedded within a silicon crystal.
Once again, when it come's to photovoltaics, Moore's law does not apply. As a matter of fact, just the opposite applies. To increase the amount of energy available from silicon crystals, you ether have to increase the surface area (which increases the size) of the crystals themselves or yo have to join several crystals together in the collectors, thus increasing the size of the collector elements. That is the OPPOSITE of Moore's Law.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
The Edison of Our Age
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:28pm.
The point I was trying to make was that information technologies grow exponentially in capability and power and bandwith and so on.
Since, you know about Moore's law, I assume that you must also know about the Law of Accelerating Returns. It's complicated.
Take the time to watch this full-length interview with the - Stanford Ovshinsky:
You can get to it here:
The Edison of Our Age
https://harryhammer.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/the-edison-of-our-age/
I look forward to hearing your comments.
By the way, if most of your camp had their way, Thomas Jefferson would be written out of the history books.
Here's a brilliant scientist from M.I.T. who shares his feelings on some of this:
http://www.thenation.com/video/158093/noam-chomsky-how-climate-change-be...
Harry is really mamabear
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:40pm.
Why is it that all these trolls assume they have some intellectual gift? That they need to educate and warn us it might be hard now, here's information you've never heard because you just aren't smart enough to know anything.
I wish Jefferson was never part of our history, William Jefferson Clinton that is. Can't be helped now.
Huh?
Submitted by CobraMan on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:44pm.
"The point I was trying to make was that information technologies grow exponentially in capability and power and bandwith and so on."
What does information technologies have to do with photovoltaics and its potential? Absolutely nothing.
Face it: you're trying to create a strawman argument now, in order to save face. You're refusing to admit that Moore's law has NOTHING to do with solar power like you claimed.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
What about the law of diminishing returns?
Submitted by CobraMan on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 7:12pm.
"I assume that you must also know about the Law of Accelerating Returns."
Have you ever heard of the law of diminishing returns? That is where we are right now with "investments" in solar power. No mater how much money we "invest" in solar power, it can NOT change the amount of energy we can efficiently extract from solar energy. When it comes to human energy needs, solar is a dead end. Even if we cover the Earth's entire surface in solar collectors, we can't match the energy we already produce with Nuclear, Coal, Oil, and other energy sources.
That energy is used for more than powering your pc, you know. It's used to cook, clean, heat our building in the winter and cool them in the summer, to power the lights we need at night, to plant, manage, harvest, and process the food we need to survive, ect. No amount of "information technology", no amount "bandwidth" can eliminate those energy requirements.
Here's a fact that you seem to be ignoring: Solar power can't produce the amount of energy needed to fulfill the requirements of modern human society, and it never will. Solar energy is NOT efficient. Even the energy required to just manufacture a solar cell far exceeds the total energy that cell could produce throughout its working lifetime. That''s just the way things are.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Anyhow, it's been nice chatting with you.
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:12pm.
Take care, ditto-heads.
Run away, Harry, before
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 5:43pm.
Run away, Harry, before you're removed. That's been your M.O. at all the other websites where you pulled this garbage and you've run away each time after cutting-and-pasting the lies from your website.
Goodbye, troll. Back to your rock's underside.
Is this how you normally debate a subject?
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:29pm.
There's no money in this for me, if that's what you want to know?
Good grief, Harrytroll, you
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:24am.
Good grief, Harrytroll, you reveal you are incapable of logical thought. I did not state nor imply you were making money from any of this. In fact based upon your revealed ignorance, dishonesty and ethical bankruptcy the only way I can see you making any money from your garbage is if you ran for political office in Madison, WI, San Francisco, CA or Cook County, IL.
A thought just occurred to me...did you think "M.O." was a reference for money?
ROFL!!!!
Wow! Your stupidity knows no limits.
M.O. - modus operandi
Apparently context is something you failed to grasp when being taught reading skills in school.
Wow, Harry Braun makes useful idiots look intelligent
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:01pm.
LOL - And that ain't easy.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Have you visited Canada?
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:45pm.
In Canada, if you get sick, we'll look after you.
That doesn't make us communists.
In Canada, our banks are ranked #1 in the world because we have a good system of rules, regulations, and appropriate oversight.
That doesn't make us socialists.
Some facts on Canada:
We have more guns per capita than the United States.
Doesn't that make you happy?
Our health-care system is one of the main reasons Vancouver ranks 4th, and three other cities in Canada rank in the top 20, of cities with the best quality of life in the world.
Here’s the complete list:
http://www.citymayors.com/features/quality_survey.html#Anchor-The-49575
The truth is, your system sucks unless you happen to be a billionaire.
Canadian death care
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:49pm.
Yup, you'll look after us, unless we die waiting to be seen by a doctor. Or the doctor desides it's to time to kill you. http://www.lifenews.com/2011/02/17/canadian-court-remove-babys-life-supp...
On second thought, I'll stay right here thanks.
Perfect, Rad
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 8:24pm.
I wanted to post that all day, but didn't get the right opportunity.
Superior Canadian Health Care....CHECK!
Kill the baby. Nice.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Did you just move to Vancouver in the last 4 hours?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 8:37pm.
I could have sworn you were just lying about the weather "here in Winnipeg."
Sooner or later you people are going to run out of beavers. Don't come crying to the US.
He did bring up Winnipeg more
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:34am.
He did bring up Winnipeg more than once. He's probably not in either location. And he was indeed caught lying about the weather there.
He did more than bring it up - he directly imp-lied it
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:45am.
I think we can guess which bridge he lives under.
"In Canada, if you get sick,
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:32am.
"In Canada, if you get sick, we'll look after you."
Only after waiting months and months and months for simple treatment. That's one of the main reasons why so many Canadians flow across the border to see American doctors.
"That doesn't make us communists."
Dave didn't mention a thing about Canadians being communists for state-run medical care. However that is a socialist setup.
"In Canada, our banks are ranked #1 in the world because we have a good system of rules, regulations, and appropriate oversight."
No evidence provided for this claim. Some surveys have Canada ranked first for SOUNDEST banks, not BEST banks while other surveys have Canadian banks ranked lower.
"The truth is, your system sucks unless you happen to be a billionaire."
The truth is that's merely your uninformed, disingenuous, vitriolic opinion which does not automatically make it true especially considering all the lies your espoused here.
Oh, please...
Submitted by GG_NB on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:16pm.
tell me he finally ran out of talking points and "information" to paste. Ugh, he's more boring than anything.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
Oh, joy...
Submitted by GG_NB on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:33pm.
joy, joy.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
Georgia Girl must be Anne Coulter
Submitted by Harry Braun on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:47pm.
~I bet you think that was an insult
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:49pm.
.
I thought you were leaving?
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 7:10pm.
Oh, right....you lied about that too.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Of course he lied. The truth
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:40am.
Of course he lied. The truth is an alien concept for Harrytroll.
It's Ann Coulter, not Anne.
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 11:39am.
It's Ann Coulter, not Anne. And Ann Coulter would run rings around you, intellectually speaking. But I am certain she wouldn't waste her time with you since you are, in fact, an unarmed opponent.
Bru~
Submitted by GG_NB on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 6:52pm.
I love it. ;)
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
~Girl
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 7:41pm.
You have done been told off, don'tcha know. That was, like, the mother of all insults. Over there on HuffPo they gasp and cringe when someone breaks out that kind of heavy artillery. The 3.5 pound bundle of unbridled liberal fury just savaged you.
Harry the hammer*
Submitted by cajun2 on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 8:01pm.
oops
Excuse me, Bru
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 8:05pm.
He called me a "dumb blonde".
ROTFLMAO.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
~*spit take*
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 8:17pm.
So our guy is original as well as witty. I'm impressed.
Me too, Bru...Original
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 8:18pm.
Not!
BTW, a certain lady from LA and I are Ex-pats.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Which is funnier~
Submitted by GG_NB on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 8:22pm.
The Anne "insult" -- or his getting upset at being called BORING? Typical! They want to be a pain in the neck, but they never want to be thought of as boring.
He's actually more interesting when he just fills out the subject box.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
Well he is boring
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 8:44pm.
I'm sure he thought he was bringing something we'd never seen before, but in the end, it's the same old tripe.
Myself and others have busted trolls six way to Sunday on this BS. Most, if not all, were at least a bit more unpredictable than harry the bore here.
RESTLESS 1
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 8:56pm.
Damn. Yet again, I'm tardy to the AGW party.
Good to see you here.
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 11:04pm.
You're expertise can be used for good here.
I used to have quite a few links handy for trolls like harry here, but alas, the changeover wiped them out.
Like I told GG above, this one is too boring and run of the mill for me to bother.
RESTLESS 1
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 11:19pm.
I know what you mean about the changeover.
I can put up with the somewhat annoying aspects of the new site (although the changes provided by Markay in Internal Affairs Forums helps) but the fact that all of the old comments were erased is almost unforgivable. There were so many good GW posts - now all gone.
Continued Support of Climate Change is a mistake.
Submitted by mememine69 on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 7:07pm.
We were wrong. Let’s move on.
Climate Change was for gullible fools and we former believers now clearly see that “crisis”, “catastrophic”, “sever” and “unstoppable warming” were a climate cowards death threat. It was an embarrassing era of environMENTAL environmentalism and I wish I could take back the times I implied to our younger minds that “they“ will die on a dying planet from CO2. If any of you stay behind believers and your faded “worst-case-scenario profiting” scientists had any stones at all, you would call climate change what it was supposed to be, death. Not unpleasant weather. How is a little crisis possible anyways? History is not going to be kind to our Disco Doomsday Science and modern day witch burning and even Obama himself bailed on the “crisis” in his state of the union speech. Add to that, the Republican majority just voted to pull all American IPCC funding and there is wide spread talk now of arrests coming. Failed calls for crisis always back fire and now Obama and the press have a new enemy, those who led us to war against climate variation. A wave of former believer rage has arrived and I dare anyone to say unstoppable warming is absolutely true. It’s no different from any old freak standing by the side of the road holding a sign with THE END IS NEAR, SAVE THE PLANET scribbled on it.
Journalists and News Editors that covered the climate change mistake for the last two and a half decades of needless panic, have done to science and journalism, what abusive priests did for the Catholic Church. You lazy copy and paste clowns will sooner or later be charged with treason for leading your country to a false war of climate variation and for condemning our children to a death by CO2.
Meanwhile, the UN had allowed carbon trading to trump 3rd world fresh water relief, starvation rescue and 3rd world education for just over a quarter of a century of climate control instead of needed population control. Call the courthouse.
Pollution is real, death by CO2 was not.