Open Thread: North Korea Deploys Surface to Air Missiles in Yellow Sea

By NB Staff | November 28, 2010 | 11:24

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Possible talking point: North Korea has deployed surface to air missiles to the Yellow Sea.

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When will Newsbusters be

Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 11:47am.

When will Newsbusters be putting back the asterisk (*) next to the new comments? C'mon, you have (parentheses) surrounding the word new in the Forums, why can't you do something similar to the comments in the main section of NB? It truly sucks having to scroll through every comment trying to find comments that you have not read already.

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan

This problem, when you click on a recent

Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 12:30pm.

Comment, and the page jumps to the bottom of the page is irritating as heck. This used to be a very user friendly site. Now it's a pain to navigate, and with no comment button after the article, it's a pain even to comment sometimes.

I am very disappointing. Considering this upgrade was solicited from the users, and very few of the concerns from said users have been addressed. This hurts to type : (

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty

Agree.

Submitted by Delsa on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 2:53pm.

I can't find my way around. The old way was much easier.But then I am not a computer twitter geek.....

If you know what I mean?

Agreed.

Submitted by mandrake on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 6:26pm.

Why don't you put back the old code and admit you made a mistake. It's a pain to do even a simple 'cut and paste' anymore.

Awwwwww. No. We are keeping it.

Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 6:32pm.

Why don't you just give up and go home. We ain't changing it back just to appease a frozen blue troll of the north.

Nah.

Submitted by mandrake on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 6:49pm.

I don't think I am the only one..and besides, I am already 'home' and will continue to express my opinion as I feel fit.

Merry Christmas - mandrake

A world of difference

Submitted by NevadanConservative on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 12:43pm.

between deploying NK scrap and it actually being able to work.Much of this gear likely is Chicom or old Soviet vintage, and I can't picture either regime sending them first flight highest tech stuff.

The Kim dynasty has been relying on the old Khruschev saying "There is a quality in quantity." Throw enough low grade mil equipment at a objective and you'll get it done.

My guess, for its worth, is China will largely and wisely stay out, save to seal the NK/China border if this devolves back into a war. I am not sure of NK morale, and wonder if Kim II or III or both dont end up Mussolini fashion.

NK has been bled dry to further their nuclear program, their military, and the Kim family cult of personality... all else has fallen by the wayside. South Korea is a Chinese trading partner and one with a fair amount of value. For all the Communist chestbeating, the Chinese will not move against it directly.

NVCon

Ronald Reagan has a response from the grave.

Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 12:17pm.

My response was simple: Whenever our ships or planes were fired upon or otherwise deprived of rights granted sovereign countries in international waters, the navy was to respond in kind. "Any time we send an American anywhere in the world where he or she can be shot at, they have the right to shoot back," I said. One cabinet member asked: "What about pursuit?" He wanted to know the extent to which our planes should be permitted to pursue Libyan planes if they harassed our aircraft or ships in violation of international law.

The admiral stopped, cleared his throat, and looked over at me, waiting for an answer from me, and suddenly it was very quiet in the room. "All the way into the hangar," I said. A smile broke out on the admiral's face, and he said, "Yes, sir."

Yea, but Obama wont

Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 12:39pm.

Because Reagan would!

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty

We have weapons to deal with

Submitted by rbosque on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 12:49pm.

We have weapons to deal with those SAMs. Just let them try to use them, they'll only end up as scrap.

"It may be true that you can't fool all the people all the time, but you can fool enough of them to rule a large country"......Will Durant

Launching SAM's ea, Virtually the same missile used in Viet Nam

Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 12:55pm.

To bad we don't have a Navy F-22 program...ya know STEALTH aircraft..

Get this: The SKoreans that were killed in their homes were human shields, so sez the lefties in the paradise of the NKorea.

If we had Navy F-22's the FAT LIPPED, wounded CiC is too sore to trust our fighting men with any kind of live rounds, it's a "training exercise", after all:....

All this time the Chinese are sitting back and Vacuuming all sorts of communication information...

You Didn't Build That.

Why does the Navy need stealth aircraft?

Submitted by Galvanic on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 1:47pm.

USAF B-2 can hit targets in North Korea. So could F-22's flying from Osan AFB.

The Navy would use cruise missiles.

But I don't think Obama nor his predecessor would launch strikes on North Korea.

Gee, maybe because the NK were firing missles at em.

Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 2:36pm.

I don't remember any artillery barrages during Bushes terms...

SKorea has some of these, GMLRS

Cut loose with them on the next NK artillery attack.

You Didn't Build That.

Last I heard, there were 11

Submitted by Bruzilla on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 10:42am.

Last I heard, there were 11 squadrons of F-22s out there, six of them in the Pacific theater.

The truth is, the F-22, while a nice plane, was designed by the USAF to meet, as usual, the USAF's needs only, which is why it was cancelled. The F-35 meets the needs of the USAF and the USN, USMC, and a host of foreign services, which is why it is still being funded.

"Strange women, lying in ponds, distributing swords, is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony." Peasant

Ahh the F-35, Following in the foot steps of the B-58, and F-111

Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 4:46pm.

F-35 issues...

2015 maybe

“The U.S. government has been working on an F-35 technical baseline review with full support from Lockheed Martin.[...]

Whats this: A payload/thrust reduction, after winning the bid? F-22 is bigger, now no money to develop folding wings, oh well... My understanding is that there is much additional maintenance work to keep the aircraft "stealth", good luck with that in the sea air.

F-35 Engine failure, oh no back-up engine...

Bruzilla, Looks like the navy F-35C is the only way to go.

This is not the Navy verson

F-22 real flip..

You Didn't Build That.

Upcountry

Submitted by Denny Crane on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 8:47pm.

That was an awesome clip. Thanks

Be on the lookout for random acts of journalism from the MSM~h/t Rush

We Are The 53%

Headline: obama leaned forward in his seat at times

Submitted by ThisnThat on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 1:13pm.

North Korea Deploys Surface to Air Missiles in Yellow Sea.. as obama plays or watches Bball. Here's the latest Newsflash on obama, as reported by our breathless AP news gatherers: Obama took the whole family to Howard University, where they watched the Oregon State Beavers defeat the Howard Bison. Obama paid close attention to the game, leaning forward in his seat at times. He occasionally munched popcorn or sipped bottled water, and at one point 9-year-old Sasha reached over and kissed her father on the cheek opposite his stitched lip.

Is it newsworthy that obama leaned forward, or sipped bottled water? What kind of reporting is this, anyway? Is this a POTUS or something else? I simply can't believe this nonsense!

__________
“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court

AP=A$$-kissing for POTUS

Submitted by jon_torlin on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 1:27pm.

That's the AP for you. For some reason they are trying to keep him looking human and (as they see it) normal.

Good luck with that.

-Jon

This read more like a fluff

Submitted by Chris M-G on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 2:15pm.

This read more like a fluff piece on Paris Hilton. Good grief.

Christmas Tree Bomber

Submitted by ThisnThat on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 1:22pm.

(allegedly, of course). He was a student at Oregon State. I wonder if he was on full scholarship? Or was part of some disadvantaged minority group? Here's my proposal: everyone with a name like Mohamed Osman Mohamud, or from Somolia, automatically gets placed on a terrorist watch list. Because it's only a matter of "when", not "if".

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“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court

Oh please. Who names a missile "Silkworm"?

Submitted by SickofLibs on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 2:05pm.

"Look out, here comes a silkworm!"

"And right behind it is a Mexican Jumping Bean! Nooo!"

I believe a silkworm's top speed is about 0.00003 mph. With a lifetime distance of 1.25" maximum.

I think they could've come with a slightly more intimidating name. What's Chinese for "Little Baby Kitten With Cute White Paws?"

Same folks that gave names

Submitted by NL207 on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 2:14pm.

Same folks that gave names like 'backfire', 'faggot', and 'fiddler' to Soviet aircraft : NATO.

It all started with calling

Submitted by Jer on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 5:37pm.

It all started with calling bullets "slugs".

Jer

Actually, naming conventions

Submitted by Bruzilla on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 10:53am.

Actually, naming conventions for missiles and aircraft are very specific and mean different things. Another poster mentioned the names given to Soviet aircraft, and they seem wierd, but they have a specific purpose. For example, if a call goes out that a Bear is in the air, we immediately know that a propeller-driven bomber is in the air (a name starting with a B is a bomber, and a single-syllable word indicates propeller driven). If a Blinder is reported, we immediately know it's a jet-powered bomber since Blinder starts with B and has two syllables.

The names may seem odd, but they are a way to quickly identify something just by the word used to name it.

The First letter was key.

Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:46am.

Code letters:

A - Air-to-Air Missile
B - Bomber
C - Cargo
F - Fighter
G - Surface-to-Air Missile (including Anti-Ballistic Missiles)
H - Helicopter
K - Air-to-Surface Missile
M - Miscellaneous (all aircraft not included in other categories)
S - Surface-to-Surface Missile

http://www.designation-systems.net/non-us/soviet.html#_System_NATO

Thanks Vet

Submitted by Rukus on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 6:55pm.

That is some awesome info! Very interesting indeed. Thanks!

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Love you buddy. Don't get mad.

Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 6:32pm.

We did. The actual name is either in Chinese or is just a model like XX-344. We give Russian and Chinese weapons names so we can refer to them in messages.

Now you see why it has such a sissy name.

Don't forget. Always call The Vet when you have questions related to military or the U.S flag.

One more on the stitches

Submitted by bkeyser on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 2:17pm.

One more on the stitches incident; this one ties in the whole "stitched lip(s)" and ObamaCare theme. Hope.

I think that one is my

Submitted by Seashell on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 4:59pm.

I think that one is my favorite so far in the stitches series! Keep 'em coming!

IN the sea?

Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 3:30pm.

NK is deploying surface to air missiles IN the sea? I don't think they'd work.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court

Or Anwar al-Awlaki.

The Falcons win a squeaker

Submitted by Dave. on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 5:09pm.

They are now 9-2 and have a pretty easy schedule the rest of the way.

Gotta like their chances.

:-)

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

"(The missiles) appear to

Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 5:17pm.

"(The missiles) appear to be targeting our fighter jets that fly near the Northern Limit Line (NLL)," the source said on customary condition of anonymity

So find the source and make it light up like a Christmas tree. With Obama in charge nothing will happen unless Obama can make a political advantage out of it.

Nuke em til they glow; then shoot em in the dark

Ear Leader doesn't have the

Submitted by MikeB on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 5:42pm.

Ear Leader doesn't have the testicles to do it (Hillary got 'em?), but each flight in the area needs to have either Standard or High speed Anti-Radiation Missiles attached, and when a targetting radar illuminates the plane, eliminate the radar. Of course, that won't work on IR tracking missiles, but if NK fires a heat seeker at us, then give Pyonyang a can of sunshine so that their heat seekers will have a heat source worth going after.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

Obama Limits the Military

Submitted by Airforce_5_O on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 9:56pm.

This guy is completely clueless and gutless when it comes to the military. He doesn't understand what is there for. He just likes the ability to cut the heart out of it. If our planes get shot at out there during this exercise then we take out the site. No if ands or buts. But with as much of our debt that China owns Obama will knucle under and wave is finger at them while telling the UN how we need more sactions on NK.

Freaking Chump.

Yeah, what we need is the kick-ass approach

Submitted by Jer on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 10:35pm.

of the past administration which really got tough with China after one of its interceptors knocked a U.S. Navy reconnaissance plane out of the air and forced it to crash land, endangering the crew and compromising the intelligence systems and data on board.

What did we do? Why....we groveled and said we were sorry for crashing into Chinese territory. I guess we showed them, huh?

Now that's what I call bowing before foreign rulers. And I'm sure you would agree was gutless.

Jer

Nope---

Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 11:03pm.

Not gutless.

Comparitively speaking, though, Obama and his administration are gutless.

I don't recall any groveling over the incident you mention.

Are you a stringer for the liberal mainstream media?

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)

Matthew...

Submitted by Jer on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 11:52pm.

When an American plane flying in international air space is rammed by a Chinese jet interceptor and as a consequence is forced to crash land on an island belonging to that latter nation, and the United States government sends a letter to Beijing saying it is sorry for entering China's territory without permission [i.e. forgetting to say "may we please crash on Hainan?"], that is what is known in the vernacular of diplomacy as "groveling".

Jer

Apples to oranges, Jer

Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 12:31am.

Jer, you just love to compare apples to oranges don't you? In the bumping (ramming incident you described, the only one who died was thew CHINESE pilot. All the Americans were fine. We even got the plane back. And that Chinese pilot wasn't trying to crash into the plane, he was just trying to diver its course, which was heading into Chinese airspace. (It wasn't supposed to be in that area. It was miles "off course." WE were harassing the Chinese, on purpose because we didn't agree with the extended Chinese airspace claims, an increase that, coincidentally, extended their airspace out to the same nautical mile limits we claim around the US.) Bush was RIGHT to apologize as WE were harassing THEM. If the situation was reversed and a Chinese military plane was heading into OUR airspace without permission, WE would do the exact same thing. You should know that.

Now compare that to the NK SHELLING of civilians. Civilians DIED in that attack. It's a deliberate violation of the Cease Fire agreement, a deliberate act of WAR! Just how is THAT comparable to what happened with the Chinese?

But, hay comparing apples to oranges is fine with you, as long as you get to insult Bush while doing so, right?

So, Jer, you can take your "groveling" claims and shove them were the sun doesn't shine. THIS veteran, for one, will not abide by your flagrant attempt to deflect Obama's deserved criticism.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court

Or Anwar al-Awlaki.

Well said Cobra

Submitted by Denny Crane on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 1:06am.

These 2 incidents are very different.

But just 1 correction, Civilians didn't die in this attack. 2 S. Korean Marines gave their lives. Civilians did lose a lot of property.

Over here in Japan, the people are paying very close attention to it. I have been hearing a lot more activity around the JSDF Airbase near my house over the last week.

"Lib free or die"

Be on the lookout for random acts of journalism from the MSM~h/t Rush

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Let's see, Cobra. NK shells

Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 1:29am.

Let's see, Cobra. NK shells South Korea and civilians or soldiers are tragically killed and Obama is supposed to do what?...declare war on the North Koreans [or resume the hostilities halted nearly sixty years ago by the truce?] Do you think perhaps the South Koreans should have a say in that potentiality?

The Chinese attacked/bumped/rammed one of our planes, and if not for heroic efforts by the pilot the entire crew would have perished. Your speculation that the aircraft may have eventually entered Chinese airspace doesn't mean squat. As it was, the Chinese ransacked the plane and very likely were able to obtain sensitive intelligence information. Hell yes the "so sorry" letter was groveling, unmitigated by a couple of destroyers showing the flag, and far worse than anything Obama has done--and I won't abide your flagrant attempts to sugar-coat it for political reasons. If that type of incident were foreseeable and would precipitate an apology from us, we shouln't have been stupid enough to be "harrassing" the Chinese in the first place.

Jer

Uncle Jer is right.

Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 7:06pm.

We did not get shot at by North Korea. It is not up to us to escalate because of the 2 incidents. South Korea should. I say escalate because we are already at war with North Korea. Sometimes I feel lonely saying that.

If Uncle Jer feels the apology was so wrong. What would be the proper response? This is important.

You said Cobraman speculated and then you speculated the Chinese got sensitive equpiment. I have requested to be consulted on all military manners. There are procedures to destroy top secret equipment in the event of the plane falling into enemy hands. They are clearly marked. And there is an order, most sensitive first. And there a drills to destroy the equipment. As everything was top secret, we do not know what they were able to destroy in the limited time before landing. So it is pure speculation to suggest anything fell into communist hands that day. Let's speculate though a little. THEY TORE THE PLANE APART. Prolly wouldn't have done that if we had left all kinds of Super Top Secret stuff just laying around.

Well, there is no denying---

Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 2:37am.

that you liberals know all about groveling.

Groveling was what was actually taking place when liberals denied that Obama was bowing to foreign heads of state.

As far as the letter about the crash landing, the government was just being polite, which in the vernacular of diplomacy is known as "being polite".

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)

I don't think it was polite sir.

Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 12:15pm.

The Chinese were holding the crew and demanding an apology for violating their airspace. We could have either escalated or defused. At the time I was kind of angered over the non-apology apology. But years later, knowing the full story, including knowing the plane inverted and went into a dive, and understanding realpolitik a little better, I can see it did defuse and was properly played.

And the Chinese treated our guys well. Can't say that about the handful Al Qaeda got ahold of.

Vet---

Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 7:17pm.

Just jerking Jer's chain.

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)

Well shiny tinkling Christmas balls.

Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 8:00pm.

I ddn't even see it. Here I come along and jerk it by accident and get a face full of holly and a bunch of ivy crammed down my pants.

Uncle Jer exagerates a bit.

Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 12:30am.

While I think that the talk of going to war with China is a bit exagerated here lately, an over exagerated response ain't gonna tone it down.

It wasn't exactly groveling either. We apologised with a non-apology apology. Sorry we offended you by farting in your presence, jerkwad.

Dear Mr Minister,

On behalf of the United States government, I now outline steps to resolve this issue.

Both President Bush and Secretary of State Powell have expressed their sincere regret over your missing pilot and aircraft.

Please convey to the Chinese people and to the family of pilot Wang Wei that we are very sorry for their loss.

Although the full picture of what transpired is still unclear, according to our information, our severely crippled aircraft made an emergency landing after following international emergency procedures.

We are very sorry the entering of China's airspace and the landing did not have verbal clearance, but very pleased the crew landed safely. We appreciate China's efforts to see to the well-being of our crew.

Yeah, so sorry your pinhead pilot misjudged the size of our flying brick and ended up killing himself and nearly downing us. Nothing like a dropping few dozen thousand feet inverted to make you think, wow, I think I just might make for a landing field in the country of the guys we were spying on. Yeah, whatever dude, we didn't get clearance before making that emergency landing with the half of our plane your pilot did not put in the Pacific Ocean. Jerks. Oh what, we have to apologize for calling you jerks in our apology now? Jerks. Yeah, didn't have verbal clearance for that emergency landing. The screams of MAYDAY MAYDAY WE ARE GOING IN THE DRINK!!!! FUDGE FACTOR ELEVEN!!! MAYDAY MAYDAY. Our pooter holes are clenched up tight here. Dear sweet lord in... Passports? Clearance for what? Look, clear the runway cuz there ain't no trying this twice. Jerks.

Nice Site ---

http://www.cargolaw.com/2001nightmare_apology.html#apology

He sure does exagerates.

Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 12:46am.

Jer sure does exaggerate. I guess he forgot that Bush immediately ordered three destroyers into the are from their normal patrols in the Red Sea. (kind of an aggressive from of groveling, don't ya think?

Obama, on the other hand, simple decided to keep things way they are and "let" the War games, already planned and hundreds of miles away form the area, to continue unabated.

Me, personally, I would have sent that Carrier to patrol the area around the Island itself while performing Combat Air Patrols over Pyongyang, but I am kind of aggressive that way.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court

Or Anwar al-Awlaki.

It was pretty gutless, we

Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 11:49pm.

It was pretty gutless, we should have been more forceful.

Nuke em til they glow; then shoot em in the dark

Yippee...Dan and I agree.

Submitted by Jer on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 11:55pm.

Yippee...Dan and I agree. What is that, twice in three years? :-)

Jer

One thing we must say it was

Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 12:04am.

One thing we must say it was a different climate back in 2001 before 911. The world and teh people in the USA changed in 911 and after. Post 911 we were more disposed to protect our interests. Well hindsight is 20/20.

Nuke em til they glow; then shoot em in the dark

Well, I agree with you on

Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 2:35am.

Well, I agree with you on that point also.

Jer

Surface to Air

Submitted by serfer62 on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 9:57pm.

These missliles won't be the ones to do the most damage if war. The Silkworm surface to Ship would be the tactical choice. Of course sink a carrier and then its how many nuks it takes to flatten those mountains in NK.

Noooooooooo!!!

Submitted by Roger the Shrubber on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 10:54pm.

Lt. Frank Drebin just passed away!

One of my favoorite comedic actors. He was amazinng. Rest in Peace, Leslie.

Just saw this on the local news, Shrubbster

Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 11:00pm.

I think it may have been in the hospital where I was born.

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Well, it sure could not have

Submitted by NL207 on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 11:51pm.

Well, it sure could not have been the hospital where Obama was born! :)

LOL, we know Obama WASN'T born in Fort Lauderdale

Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 11:54pm.

Kind of sad....Leslie Neilsen played the goof so perfectly.

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RIP Mr. Nielsen

Submitted by Dave. on Sun, 11/28/2010 - 11:51pm.

:-(

Vote for the American in November

RIP Leslie

Submitted by MrShy on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 12:05am.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhyCL-ELRxg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YFC0O393DQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-S-eeInJVk

- Shy

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We will miss him

Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:46am.

Leslie was great, sad to see him go

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty

Shy,

Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 1:17pm.

LOL - I sat up until 2:00 am perusing YouTube for clips just like those.

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

Forbidden Planet

Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 1:25pm.

Anyone remember how he was in that timeless classic of science fiction, the Forbidden Planet?

That was one of his more serious roles and he did good with it. It was also one of the inspirations to Gene Roddenberry in creating Star Trek.(there are some similarities)

I put it up there with the other classic "The Day the Earth Stood Still." And not that remake dreck either.

-Jon

"Now get out of here before I

Submitted by Free Stinker on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 5:19pm.

"Now get out of here before I put guards on you! Then I'll put guards on the guards!!". --Leslie Nielsen to Anne Francis. ;-)

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