Former Bush Aide Smacks Down Joan Walsh For Questioning W's 'Psychological Compass'
A former advisor to George W. Bush smacked down Salon's Joan Walsh Monday for questioning the 43rd President's psychological compass.
Appearing on MSNBC's "Hardball," GOP strategist Ron Christie also gave Chris Matthews a much-needed education on why going into Iraq was a successful part of Bush's strategy to prevent America from a follow-up attack after 9/11 (video follows with transcript and commentary):
CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: Let’s go to a thing, much more serious than the war itself, which cost the lives of 77,000 people and counting. President Bush writes about not finding weapons of mass destruction, quote, "When Saddam didn’t use weapons of mass destruction on our troops, I was relieved. When we didn’t discover the stockpile soon after the fall of Baghdad, I was surprised. When the whole summer passed without finding any I was alarmed. No one was more shocked or angry than I was when we didn’t find the weapons. I had a sickening feeling every time I though about it. I still do." So, he’s talking about his subjective feelings here again. And here’s the question: he says later on that he protected us from being hit again by attacking in Iraq, but then says I didn’t find any weapons. He protected us from the weapons that didn’t exist.
JOAN WALSH, SALON: That didn’t exist.
MATTHEWS: I think it makes no -- Joan, it makes no logical sense to say, I protected us from the weapons they didn’t have. There were no nuclear or biological or chemical. They weren’t there. I protected us by going to war, 77,000 dead people later, and I should get credit because we weren’t hit again by weapons that don’t exist. It doesn’t make sense to a regular person listening to this.
(CROSSTALK)
WALSH: It doesn’t make any sense. I mean, come on, he sits there and says he’s sickened, he’s saddened, he’s angry about it.
MATTHEWS: Who cares?
WALSH: And then, the three -- but also the three of us remember he did that funny little routine at one of the -- one of the big Washington dinners where he’s on his hands and knees, looking behind the couch, where the WMDs? That was hilarious. Are you sickened? Are you sickened or do you think it’s funny? I mean, that’s where this guy’s moral compass and psychological compass -- something’s always off to me. Something --
(CROSSTALK)
RON CHRISTIE, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Wait a second. I am not going to let you sit there and talk about his psychological compass for someone who you don’t even know.
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: Help us explicate this poetry. How can you --
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: He said that he was sickened by the fact there was no WMD there. Then he said, by the fact, we fought the war, he protected us from being hit again. By what, the WMD that wasn’t there? There’s no logic to that.
CHRISTIE: No, the logic is very simple. The fact of the matter of is, we were hit on September 11th, 2001.
MATTHEWS: By al-Qaeda.
CHRISTIE: By al Qaeda. The president of the United States took every step necessary, going to war in Iraq, he believed that was the right thing to do -- going to war in Afghanistan, working with Congress to create the Department of Homeland Security.
MATTHEWS: But the question was Iraq.
CHRISTIE: No, Chris, the question is --
MATTHEWS: The question was Iraq.
CHRISTIE: You asked me to justify --
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: Matt Lauer asked him, how do you justify all the horror stories that were accompanied to the Iraq war? He answered it was justified because we weren’t hit again.
CHRISTIE: Correct.
MATTHEWS: Nobody got killed when we defended -- let’s listen to Matt. Let’s listen to the exact discussion so you can focus here again. Here’s President Bush in the 9/11 attacks in his interview with Matt Lauer. Let’s listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MATT LAUER, NBC NEWS: Here’s something else from the book, "September 11th redefined sacrifice. It redefined duty and it would redefine my job. I could never forget what happened to America that day. I would pour my heart and soul into protecting this country whatever it took." It took two wars.
GEORGE W. BUSH, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: Yes.
LAUER: It took thousands of lives, American lives, billions of dollars. You could say it took Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib.
BUSH: Yes.
LAUER: And government eavesdropping and waterboarding. Did it take too much?
BUSH: We didn’t have an attack. Three thousand people died on September the 11th, and I vowed I would do my duty to protect the American people and they didn’t hit us again.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MATTHEWS: The decision point was going to Iraq. How does that decision to go to Iraq save lives?
CHRISTIE: Part of his overall strategy.
MATTHEWS: How did that -- that’s the issue.
(CROSSTALK)
CHRISTIE: Well, you’re taking out a very unstable dictator.
MATTHEWS: Seventy-seven thousand people dead. How did that stop us from being hit again by the al Qaeda?
CHRISTIE: Because you’re taking out a very unstable dictator who used weapons of mass destruction against his own people.
(CROSSTALK)
CHRISTIE: You didn’t let me --
MATTHEWS: Go ahead. Make your point, but I don’t hear anything here.
CHRISTIE: My point is it was part of a broader comprehensive strategy, Iraq, Afghanistan, Homeland Security. You can quibble with his decision to go to war, Chris, but the fact of the matter, is president was able correct. We were not hit again after September 11th.
MATTHEWS: What does Iraq have to do with the decision by the enemy, whoever it is, which enemy we’re talking about here.
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: Joan, what is the role of an Iraq in keeping us safe?
WALSH: I don’t believe that there’s any role, Chris. I don’t believe there’s any role. There was no al-Qaeda involvement in Iraq. There was no Iraqi involvement in 9/11. It was a war of choice. It was a war that the neocons had been pushing and pushing literally for years. They got their man. They got their man to do it, and, you know, we’re still stuck there many thousands of lives later.
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: It’s the same old conflation, game of conflating. He always conflates. He conflates 9/11 with Iraq. He did it again there. He kept conflating weapons of mass destruction, keep it confusing what kind of weapons we’re talking about.
CHRISTIE: We didn’t get hit again. You can say all you want conflation all you want.
(CROSSTALK)
CHRISTIE: Part of a broader strategy, we were not hit again. He made it his number one mission to protect the American people and for that we have a lot to be grateful for.
Readers should note that this is the second time in the past two "Hardball" installments that Matthews has made this same absurd point about Iraq and 9/11. As NewsBusters previously reported, he did this in his final segment Friday.
The former President and most rational Americans understand that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11, or at least no linkage has been determined.
However, as Christie accurately noted, the Bush administration saw the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq as being integral parts of preventing a follow-up terrorist attack on our nation.
Whether one agrees with that strategy or not, the indisputable fact is there has not been a successful attack on our mainland since. Whatever military and homeland security actions taken by the previous administration to protect us have to be considered as having accomplished this goal.
If the only thing Iraq did was centralize the war on terror in a land thousands of miles away from our shores thereby keeping our enemies at a safe distance, that in itself validates the strategy.
Folks like Matthews and Walsh can question whether the loss of life was worth that end, but as the Commander-in-Chief's most vital role is to protect the citizens he serves, this perilously liberal couple would be on weak footing with most Americans.
As for Matthews, this is the second time in five days he's been schooled by a GOP strategist. Makes you think that Keith Olbermann is wise to not allow such folk on his program, as "Countdown" would look like quite a classroom if the host ever let anyone on his show that actually knew something.
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Walsh is an embarrassment
Submitted by theprofessor on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 9:59pm.
She was on Howie Kurtz' show on Sunday blathering and snickering with her holier-than-thou attitude. She's a smarmy leftist with her own version of history. Needs a good humbling, imo.
Oh yeah, she's a genius! like, you know?
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 11:45am.
Next time this bimbo elitist, smarter than, you know, like, what-everrrrrr, the rest of us, count the number of times the California 'girl" says "you know."
I lost track the last time I tried it.
You says "you know" more than Prissy slobbers and spits!
It won't matter
Submitted by FastEd on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 10:04pm.
the DOPI's as too stupid to understand, and since they already have their mind made up, it won't matter a wit what kind of truth you bring to the table - they don't understand! There are still people around who want to blame Bush, no matter what, and he's not in the office anymore, but, shhhh, don't let them know - THEY know it all.
"We the People . . " Hey, congress - I'm one of the people - start listening!
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
David Boies on Libby conviction. Sen Levin on Saddam's nukes.
Submitted by Gary Hall on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 10:19pm.
How did ole Al Gore's lead council in Gove v Bush, David Boies, feel about Fitzgerald's romp thru the rule of law?
David Boies – March 5th, 2007
"That's exactly the problem. People can't remember everything. Now, people have got to tell the truth in front of a grand jury. That's very important. And if you are conducting an investigation where you really need to get people's testimony, and they lie, they need to be prosecuted, even if you ultimately conclude there was no underlying crime. That's not really the situation here, as I see it. Because from the outside it looks like the prosecutor knew, before some of this testimony was taken, that there was not an underlying crime. And then to go forward and try to get people maybe to slip up, make a mistake, so you can bring a perjury or obstruction charge, I think that's what's troubling here."
The problem is I don't see any evidence that that's right. That is I don't see any evidence that they needed Libby's testimony to determine whether there was a crime or not. They knew who leaked it. Ok? They knew who leaked it."
And in 2005 - 2 1/2 years after the Iraq war, how did Sen Carl Levin remember the threat from Saddam?
'Hardball with Chris Matthews' Nov. 7, 2005
Senator Carl Levin (D) of Michigan, a member of the Intelligence Committee:
- look there was plenty of evidence that Saddam had nuclear weapons, by the way. That is not in dispute. There is plenty of evidence of that.
I guess Chris Matthews didn't hear Levin??
(;~> gary
Morons on both sides
Submitted by PrimalElements on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 10:27pm.
I am not a Bush fan at all. Do we have a Republican that can say:
Bush never said he went to Iraq soley because of WMDs.
WMDs were found.
WMDs were moved.
Iraq had direct ties to Al Qaeda.
Last that Matthews and Walsh are MORONS!
In the words of the Texas Ranger, Gus McCrey
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 11:49am.
"Some people just need killing."
Saddam fell in that category. I can think of several others.
There is no doubt in my mind
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 11/08/2010 - 11:48pm.
There is no doubt in my mind that if Pearl Harbor was attacked with a Republican POTUS and the current Democrat mentality, we would be slaves of the Japanese right now.
He's asking Joan Walsh?
Submitted by motherbelt on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 12:07am.
What the heck are Joan Walsh's credentials to make any kind of judgment about
the role of an Iraq in keeping us safe?
The liberal axiom: I speak, therefore I am an expert.
<snort>
Matthews and the left.
Submitted by pbthinker on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 12:21am.
My understanding of the need to attack Iraq was that it was based on a few things. First of all, the understanding that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. The understanding was everywhere, not just in the U.S. There certainly was a concensus, among the worlds intelligence agencies, that Saddam Hussein had biological weapons and was working on nuclear capability.
Up until 9/11, a policy of containment and no fly zones, seemed to be fine. With an embargo on, even though it was being broken by many in Europe and Russia, was thought to make it difficult. After 9/11, if Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, it was entirely possible they could give them to al Qaida to use, either in Europe or the U.S.
Given that Iraq was governed by an unstable dictator, and these weapons were believed to be there, it was perfectly logical to want to get in there, get the weapons and remove Saddam Hussein from power.
Finally, the Democrats voted for it, then they tried to run from the vote. Bad politics.
Psychological compass?
Submitted by JPR1 on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 12:35am.
Will Garmin be introducing this as a feature on their newest models?
I don’t know that I will ever need one but maybe Ms Walsh needs some help finding her way out of the wilderness.
Best advice Joan…just stay in one place; stay calm; eat some berries or roots and someone will be along shortly.
(Not to be alarming but bears are not warm and cuddly; they can run downhill and will climb and pull you right out of a tree. You seem to be adept at making a lot of racket so bang pots and pans if you happen to have any with you.)
Joanie W.---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 2:41am.
given the tenor of her thought process, might be better off rolling some pot into a big fat doobie and offering it to the bear.
MD
Say what you want about Chris Matthews, but he has two
Submitted by Rush Fan on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 2:41am.
important qualities that most other talk show hosts don't have:
Okay, Okay. Give me a break. I'm joking.
As for Saddam Hussein, we believed he had weapons of mass destruction, and he was capable of providing them to Al-Qaeda.
Rush Fan...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 2:46am.
Whenever I see that type of intro from you, I know the other shoe is about to drop--drop kick some poor lib right in the ass, that is.
But, gotta admit...you always give me a good chuckle.
Jer
Thanks Jer. I should have added that if Saddam had been
Submitted by Rush Fan on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 4:27am.
the dictator of Darfur, rather than Iraq, President Bush would have had the support of Hollywood Left types like George Clooney , Sean Penn and Angelina Jolie; moreover, where Clooney, Penn and Jolie go, so goes the support of the liberal media.
Now watching the left, including Matthews, Maddow, and Olbermann, grudgingly support President Bush's invasion of Darfur to remove Saddam would have given me a few chuckles. Unfortunately for President Bush, Saddam was living in the wrong country. The left is really picky about the countries they will support for invasion.
I'm going to have to
Submitted by ML Stovall on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 1:03pm.
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you here, Rush. I believe, just like any other issue with which the Hollywood libnut moonbats may have 'common-ground' with conservatives, they would quickly distance themselves from any conservative involvement in the situation and begin their usual, predictable liberal love-fest for our enemy.
You've already been proved wrong, ML...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 3:37pm.
You apparently didn't catch the recent NB blog regarding Clooney's slap-down of Maher and who then proceeded to thoroughly debunk your "prediction" by acknowledging and embracing the help of conservatives.
There has also been recognition--and praise--from the left regarding the efforts of GWB in Africa.
Jer.
Gee Noel. Someone needs to
Submitted by Zippy on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 3:13am.
Gee Noel. Someone needs to remind people. We were not attacked from 9.11.01 to 1.20.09.
But, last week. How many times were we attacked?????
6-8 times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Each bomb was an attack. 6-8 times in One day...WTF....
Matthews a one man verbal dam.......
Submitted by DeclinesToState on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 7:08am.
Hey Chris, you have to stop filibustering to listen..... Does he remember Al-Zarqawi and what was the name of his group??? Al-qaeda in Iraq. The argument was that they were using their resources to fight our military rather than attack civilians. I think Chris and and that lady from Salon in her Halloween mask are the ones with personality and moral compass issues. They see Valerie Plame and her liar husband as victims, deserving of big screen adaptation, but don't have a problem with Wikileaks......
Better argument for removing Saddam from power
Submitted by Arminius on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 8:24am.
There's a free book available online that makes a better argument concerning the justification for invading Iraq:
http://www.sinsofthehusband.com/wrh.pdf
Not only the evidence pointed
Submitted by billb on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 9:13am.
Not only the evidence pointed toward Iraq, but given the choice, would you want to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan? Who in his right mind would want to fight in such a god foersaken place like Afghanistan. It makes a lot more sense to fight in the desert where the enemy can't hide. The war in Iraq drew a lot of Alqida to the battle in Iraq where we killed many of them. The so called "good war" in Afghanistan which W wisely chose to drag his feet on, proved to be the correct strategy. The liberals promoted the the "good war" where we are being slowly ground into powder. Bush recognized the foley in Afghanistan. This is a fact that the liberals are finally beginning to recognize and the reason the likes of Matthews are making these catch all charges against Bush
The WHY of War in Iraq
Submitted by MCLANTIERE on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 9:45am.
WHY war in Iraq ... since -- as Chris Matthews points out that Bush kept us "safe" from attack from weapons that did not exist. It’s a simple enough question. The ANSWER is not as simple ... and yet still easy to understand.
Bush never said in the NBC/Lauer interview that he kept us "safe" from any SPECIFIC weapon technology. He DID keep us safe from attack by religious zealots that would use any means possible to kill Americans -- i.e.: bullets, suicide-bombs, EIDs, bombs in shoes, accelerants in water bottles, toner cartridges, etc.
What the war in Iraq DID PROVIDE was a “terrorist magnet” … a rallying point sinkhole for combat-ready terrorists to converge in Jihad against an assembly of Western soldiers. Attacking them in Iraq was strategic from this point of view; Iraq made itself available when Saddam Hussein broke UN-imposed no-fly restrictions. Invading any other country at that time would have been a completely illegal interdiction on sovereign lands without either just cause or due process. Only Iraq repeatedly broke laws that provided a perfect justification for invasion -- under the pretence of WMDs.
Although the WMDs were never found -- the fact is that we got American soldiers to provide a target-rich environment for Arab terrorist fighters … thus attracting them in droves into a common geography … and then killing them in numbers far greater that any other means available. This “terrorist-magnet” … acting a little like a mosquito-light in a back yard … provided the means to reduce the numbers of Islamic radical fighters. This is turn kept the enemy Islamic terrorist occupied fighting us in Iraq … instead of fighting us in downtown New York (or Atalanta, Chicago, L.A. -- or YOUR city!)
BTW: Thank an American Soldier for your safety as well … if he/she did not VOLUNTEER to stand as a shield you and me … you would the one ducking and running for cover between houses and cars.
Matthews' mother was a miserable failure
Submitted by Cactus Kurt on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 10:04am.
I can't listen to Matthews. He poses a question to a conservative, and then refuses to hear the answer. Maddening. It's no wonder that Hardball has no viewers. His boorish behavior appeals to no one. Matthews' mother failed miserably in teaching politeness and good manners. Yeah, Chis, your mother was a miserable failure.
He can't listen to the
Submitted by Smartypants on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 10:17am.
He can't listen to the answers, Cactus. He knows they would prove him wrong.
Loud Mouth with Chris Matthews
Submitted by libBuster on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 10:07am.
Wow. You can't get a word in with Matthews. I have never seen anyone interrupt as much as he does. Might as well call the show Loud Mouth with Chris Matthews.
The Iraq question is one of
Submitted by Smartypants on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 10:16am.
The Iraq question is one of basic logic, which liberals continually fail to understand because they do not want to understand:
Excellent points
Submitted by Arminius on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 12:31pm.
You could add that Saddam's Iraq was on the State Department's short list of state sponsors of terrorism during the entire Clinton admininstration. Consider Richard Clarke's words (before he became John Kerry's buttboy):
"I frequently get accused of wasting the taxpayers’ money on an extravagant program of chem-bio defense that is unnecessary, that is a pork barrel, that is an overreaction to one incident by a religious cult in Japan. Let me try to tell those who say that, why they are wrong. There are two lists that I want to talk about. One is the list of state sponsors of terrorism that the Secretary of State issues every year, by law. You know who is on that list. It is a public document.
"There is another list that the Director of Central Intelligence issues on a classified basis every year, and that is the list of states that have chemical or biological weapons. There is almost a one-for-one copy of the terrorist state sponsors list resident within the list of states that have chemical and biological weapons. What does it mean to be a state sponsor of terrorism? It means that you have trained, equipped, financed, provided sanctuary to, provided leadership for, provided intelligence to, and armed terrorist groups.
"Now if these state sponsors of terrorism have done all of that, do we want to bet the security of our people here at home that those state sponsors will not go the additional step of providing terrorist groups with the chemical and biological weapons that are already in the inventory of the state sponsors of terrorism? I don’t want to. The president doesn’t want to. And I’m glad to see that the majority of the U.S. Congress does not want to because they have been voting consistently since the president made his proposal in May for the funds that the president has asked for."
http://usembassy-israel.org.il/publish/press/whouse/archive/1998/october/wh191013.htm
Saddam's Iraq was on both of those lists.
Ridiculous and unprofessional.
Submitted by Morganfrost on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 10:26am.
Which, for Chris Matthews, is par for the course. He asked Walsh questions, and she got to answer in full-- regardless of what kind of nonsense she spouted-- because she gave the answers Matthews wanted. Ron Christie wasn't permitted to finish a sentence.
Moreover, Matthews' assertion that Bush claimed to have protected us from weapons of mass destruction which "didn't exist" was flat-out dishonest. Bush said "we didn't get hit again," referring to terrorists who attacked without WMDs.
Why any thinking person would bother to appear on Matthews' show is beyond me, but kudos to Mr. Christie for having the self-control not to physically stifle Matthews in order to provide his answer.
Chris Matthews can't handle
Submitted by marpel on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 10:55am.
Chris Matthews can't handle the truth...unless it comes from his man crush, BO...I still love Bachman's question to him on election night about the thrill up his leg...LOL He was horrified....YAY!
"Deep within my heart lies a memory. A song of ol' San Antone..."
President Clinton was a neocon?
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 11:33am.
It was a war that the neocons had been pushing and pushing literally for years...
PUBLIC LAW 105–338—OCT. 31, 1998
IRAQ LIBERATION ACT OF 1998
Signed by President Clinton
It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime.
PUBLIC LAW 105–235—AUG. 14, 1998
IRAQI BREACH OF INTERNATIONAL OBLIGATIONS
Signed by President Clinton.
Whereas Iraq has consistently fought to hide the full extent of its weapons programs, and has systematically made false declarations to the Security Council and to UNSCOM regarding those programs, and has systematically obstructed weapons inspections for seven years;
~
Whereas on April 10, 1995, UNSCOM reported to the Security Council that Iraq had concealed its biological weapons program, and had failed to account for 17 tons of biological weapons...
~
Whereas on July 1, 1995, Iraq admitted to a full scale biological weapons program, but denied weaponization of biological agents...
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Whereas on June 24, 1998, UNSCOM Director Richard Butler presented information to the United Nations Security Council indicating clearly that Iraq, in direct contradiction to information provided to UNSCOM, weaponized the nerve agent VX; and Whereas Iraq’s continuing weapons of mass destruction programs threaten vital United States interests and international peace and security:
~
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the Government of Iraq is in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations, and therefore the President is urged to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations.
+++++++++++
I urge everyone to go read both documents, there is much much more nastiness than I can copy and paste here.
THIS GUY NEEDED TO BE TAKEN OUT. AND OUR CONGRESS IN THREE PUBLIC LAWS (also the Authorization of Force in Iraq - Oct 2002) LISTED MORE THAN ENOUGH REASONS TO DO SO.
People need to retain Information better
Submitted by jesusknight72 on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 12:51pm.
The chief blame of Iraq can be laid squarely at the feet of Saddam Hussein. Not only is it a FACT that he WAS working on weapons of mass destruction; not only was it a FACT that several members of his hierarchy admitted that the weapons were sent to Syria; not only was it a FACT that he allowed groups like Al-Qaeda to train in his country; people seem to forget that we GAVE HIM CONTINUAL OPPORTUNITIES TO STEP DOWN IN ORDER TO AVOID THE INVASION. His answer was that "America will never invade Iraq". Once conquered, Iraq presented a most important strategic base in order to operate against terrorists in the region. This war we have become embroiled in was a war against ALL TERRORISTS, not just Al-Qaeda and Bush declared time and time again that we would go after anyone who harbors or gives aid to these idiots. Iraq fell in that catergory.
Here endeth the lesson.
Great points, jesusknight.
Submitted by ML Stovall on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 1:13pm.
Great points, jesusknight. Why in the world can't the conservatives who offer themselves up to guest-appear on liberal gab-shows like Chrissie Spittles' abject failure of a tv program articulate these same facts? This drives me absolutely crazy! And the post author's assertion that Chrissie Tingles was somehow 'schooled' by the 'conservative' guest is ridiculous. He may just as well have rolled over and did that submissive peeing thing that my girlfriend's dog does whenever I talk to him.
My thoughts exactly
Submitted by jesusknight72 on Tue, 11/09/2010 - 1:43pm.
LOL. I have to agree with you. I don't know how many times I've been down that road thinking a conservative guest was going to deliver a verbal drubbing only to find out that they wind up helping the liberal cause by getting flustered and falling for false statement sucker punches from the left. It's like the end of that movie The Village. You're left sitting in your seat going "................what?" LOL By the way the whole submissive dog thing was priceless. You hit the nail on the head with that one. I also get the image of the less informed youngster responding to an arguement with: "...............well..................Oh yeah???" It's pretty embarassing, actually.
In fairness, I will say that, Matthews NEVER allows an opposing view point to reach it's vital conclusion. A typical liberal tactic. So the answer is, respond in open letter formats on another show or your own blogs and STOP BEING GUESTS ON A PROGRAM THAT YOU KNOW IS DESIGNED TO SCREW YOU. It's really not that complicated. To expect anything else is rediculous. It's like me, as a Christian, going into a Satanic church and expecting a honey bun and a hot cup of coffee at the door........................Just ain't gonna happen.
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