National Reviewer Smacks Down Bill Maher and Lawrence O'Donnell For Attacking Tea Party
Bill Maher and MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell went to great lengths on Friday's "Real Time" to disparage the Tea Party.
One proud member, National Review's Reihan Salam, admirably put them both in their place for doing so (video follows with transcript and commentary):
MARGARET HOOVER, FOX: Americans have to stand together against bullying of gay kids. It should not be a partisan issue, Bill.
BILL MAHER, HOST: What party do you think this man is a part of?
HOOVER: It doesn't say, Bill. Do you think it's political? Why do you think he’s political? Why are you so sure?
LAWRENCE O’DONNELL, MSNBC: Which party runs on homophobia and which party runs on gay rights? It’s very clear.
REIHAN SALAM, NATIONAL REVIEW: Here’s what I want to, in 1990, a very tiny number of Americans wanted gay marriage. Now it’s over half. It’s a moving target, it’s changing and the country is changing. And I think we should all celebrate that, but you're trying to divide us. You're trying to claim that the half of the country…
MAHER: I'm trying?
SALAM: …roughly, yes, absolutely, half of the country that’s conservative you're saying that we are all bigots and homophobes and we stomp on people's heads.
MAHER: I'm not saying you’re all. I’m just saying that when someone is that, they're on your team.
SALAM: Okay, well, that’s…
MAHER: Tom Tancredo…
HOOVER: Who’s not even a Republican, by the way. He’s not even a Republican.
MAHER: A teabagger who was a Republican.
SALAM: By the way, keep changing the subject from the economy and jobs to this. Keep doing it and see how that works out. Right on. Go team. Please.
MAHER: Tom Tancredo is running for governor in Colorado. He was a Republican.
HOOVER: Yeah, but he’s not a Republican anymore so you can’t say…
MAHER: He’s a teabagger, that’s the same thing. He said the President of the United States Barack Obama is a greater threat to our country than al Qaeda. Is that a patriotic thing to do?
SALAM: First of all, that’s obviously absurd. But number two, you’re talking about “teabaggers,” and here’s the thing about “teabaggers.”
HOOVER: Thank you.
SALAM: They don't talk about immigration and they don’t talk about abortion and social issues as a general rule. They talk about debt, taxes…
O’DONNELL: Yes, they do, they talk about all of these things.
SALAM: They talk about debt and taxes. You guys will label anyone you don’t like a Tea Partier.
O’DONNELL: Sharron Angle is a Tea Partier running on anti-immigration.
SALAM: You turn Tea Partier into a term of abuse. But actually, it was a movement about bailouts and deficits.
O’DONNELL: There is about 50 different ones, and on my show last night…
SALAM: And you’re choosing to talk about one of them.
O’DONNELL: I had four different leaders of four different tea parties. They're all nuts. They don't know what they're talking about.
[Cheers and applause]
SALAM: As a Tea Partier, I will happily talk about the issues with you. We'll go down the line and we'll see who knows what they're talking about, Lawrence. I have a lot of respect for you, but I think you’re being a little unfair.
O’DONNELL: I want you to be on my show next time to talk about it because the people who are the leaders of these Tea Parties do not know what they're talking about.
SALAM: It’s not a movement with a leader, Lawrence, that’s why it scares people. It’s not a movement with leaders.
MAHER: Do you condemn someone who says the President of the United States is more of a threat to the country than al Qaeda?
HOOVER: Absolutely.
MAHER: Thank you. Alright, let me ask this question. They used to say a definition of a conservative is a liberal who just got mugged, right?
HOOVER: No, it's the other way around.
MAHER: The definition of a conservative is a liberal that got mugged. A liberal gets mugged they become a conservative. What's the definition of teabagger who just lost his health care?
O’DONNELL: Or a teabagger who's turning 65 and is being handed a Medicare card. Why don’t they burn them? You know, when you were a kid, Bill, people would burn their draft card. You know, people who didn't want to go to war, who were opposed to the military action in Vietnam, would burn their draft cards.
SALAM: Holy cow.
O’DONNELL: I want to see someone in the Tea Party burn their Medicare card. Please, just one. Burn one.
SALAM: And then it's going to be on a constant loop on MSNBC for, I imagine you’d be very enthusiastic to see that.
What a pathetic analogy. People burning their draft cards didn't want to go to fight and possibly die in a war they opposed.
Medicare is a program people are forced to pay into. As it's against the law to not contribute when you are working, why should people opt out of receiving benefits if they don't ideologically support the program?
That someone receiving Medicare benefits is either opposed to the concept in principle or believes it desperately needs to be reformed for its financial future is by no means hypocritical.
If you as a government are going to force people to contribute to something against their will, you shouldn't expect them not to accept benefits.
Sadly, Maher, O'Donnell and their ilk fail to understand such logic and instead choose to mock Americans that are either protesting the legality of the system or its tenuous financial condition.
If the Left really wants those opposed to the program to not receive benefits from it, then they should endorse reform that allows people to opt out of contributions.
Obviously, Maher, O'Donnell and their ilk would never go for that.
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Fortunately
Submitted by Maestroh on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:39pm.
It was on MSNBC, meaning about six people saw it. Nine if you include Maddow's lovers.
How many people here can
Submitted by Van Halen on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:42pm.
How many people here can honestly say they haven't watched MSNBC in years? I can!
Want this crap to stop? Stop watching MSNBC and the rest of the JournOList media.
Tue. Night MSLSD Party @ Diesel residence
Submitted by Diesel on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 4:09pm.
I'm hosting a HUGE mslsd viewing party on Tue. evening. The head explosions will be hilarious!
Thank God for Directvs most excellent channel guide, cuz I don't have a clue what number it is, but it'll be the first & last time that channel will be on my tv.
Tea Party people don't know
Submitted by ant on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:57pm.
Tea Party people don't know anything according to O'Donnell, huh. Let's see.
Pelosi- " In terms of economic stimulus, food stamps offer more bang for the buck than anything else". (Paraphrasing)
"We have to pass the bill so you can see what is in it"
Sheila Jackson Lee- " Is the flag that man planted on Mars still there?" (paraphrasing)
Landrieu, when asked why school buses weren't used to evacuate New Orleans before Katrina- "Those buses are under water!" (yea, NOW they are.)
So many other gems out there, including many from the big O himself, I guess we don't appreciate the genius hiding within our current leaders.
Another Whopper
Submitted by Wildcatter1980 on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 8:39am.
Dear Leader: "...punish our enemies."
My observation: When was the last time a sitting president called fellow countrymen and women his "enemies"? Also, is it any wonder that some people might think the President a greater threat to this country than al Qaeda?
On a somewhat related note, when are we going to call out the left for the use of "teabagger" instead the proper term "Tea Partier"? When are we going to ostracize someone, anyone for using the term "teabagger" just as we do for anyone who uses the "n-word"?
I am sick and tired of the ignorant folks on the left being allowed to freely use the obviously denigrating term "teabagger" and virtually no one calling them out on it.
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If you want to know what liberal secular progressives are really doing, just listen to what they are accusing others of.
Recommended reading: Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg
If our insignificant mass
Submitted by ant on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 1:41pm.
If our insignificant mass media had more than a feeble grasp on reality, BO's regular insults and threats against half the American people would be the top story these days instead of O'Donnell's witch comment or (sigh) gay rights once again. But seeing how they agree with BO's assessment of the electorate, they too will find their influence fade even further away, throwing a temper-tantrum the whole time.
The last sitting President to use "enemies' was Nixon
Submitted by Galvanic on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 2:27pm.
He had an 'enemies list."
Has an "Enemies List", But
Submitted by Wildcatter1980 on Mon, 11/01/2010 - 9:59pm.
But, did Nixon actually publicly call groups of Americans "enemies" and that his supporters should go out and "punish" them as Obama has?
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If you want to know what liberal secular progressives are really doing, just listen to what they are accusing others of.
Recommended reading: Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg
Privately and publicly--at
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 11/02/2010 - 8:24pm.
Privately and publicly--at least with similar rhetoric--some of whom he ordered his goons to punish nefariously, secretly, and illegally.
Jer
Well that certainly makes Obama---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 11/02/2010 - 11:23pm.
look much better.
I am sure he appreciates your support, Jer.
MD
I can honestly say that I
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:57pm.
I can honestly say that I dont know what channed PMSNBC is on my TV.........but I did listen to this here on NB. I don't know why these conservatives waste and time or energy trying to talk to these dimwits............it'll get them nowhere. O'Donnell is ultra arrogant, and Maher is a lightweight of serious proportions........and if he doesn't agree with you, he's liable to say f**k you!!!
The 'teabaggers' ought to just let next Wednesday morning do their talking for them..............
Maher and O'Donnell Stoogery
Submitted by DeclinesToState on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 4:00pm.
O'Donnell and Maher don't get it. People on the right don't burn their Medicare cards and Social Security checks because we have spent our working lives paying into them and will get almost none of what we have invested back.
If we weren't overtaxed, and insurance over regulated, costs would be lower and we all could pay for our own care and insurance. On gay marriage the two groups most vocal against it in California were the Mormons and the Black churches. Gutless lefties only protested against Mormons.
O'Donnell, Maher and his stupid audience try to define the Tea Party with bumper sticker slogans while most of the have "Bush Lied People Died" still on their Priuses. They have all smoked way too much Barry-juana......
Going out on a limb here but
Submitted by BuffNBone on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 4:11pm.
Going out on a limb here but my guess is if asked not many muslims in California would be in favor gay marriages either.
Exactly
Submitted by Galvanic on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 6:46pm.
Conservatives need to be prepared to the challenge of a--holes like O'Donnell when they raise the Social Security and Medicare question.
I'd use the analogy of lay-away. If I buy an item on lay-away, I make regular payments until the total prive is paid, and then I get the item. It's mine.
My response to the question is "Okay, give me back all the money (plus interest) that the government took from me for those programs, and I'll decline t otake them."
Brilliant analogy
Submitted by Renagle on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 8:26am.
I'm going to use this in the future. A most excellent short and sweet rebuttle to the idiocy that morons like O'Donnell spew. Thank you!
From the desk of Beelzebub,
Submitted by DWoSD on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 4:19pm.
From the desk of Beelzebub, ruler of all that is evil
Dear Lawrence, Bill, Racheal, Ed, Micheal, Keith, Arianna. and Goerge,
You all are doing a great job in our efforts to ruin your country. When I signed you to your contracts, I had no idea of the lengths to which you would "sink" in order to help your fellow conspirator, Barack, "remake" your corrupt country.
I agreed to installing you in settings that would ensure your influence and, of course with that, generate compensation for you beyond your wildest dreams. Having done that, I must say I am duly impressed by your dedication to my mission.
By tearing down this last bastion of freedom, this so called light to the rest of the world, I will be able to once and for all impoverish the masses, and by doing so, create rampant chaos. Oh, what a joyous prospect.
Never let up on your lies and false reasonings. It is working better than even I could have hoped.
Saul, Joe and Adolf say high.
B.
Wow. Classy, Bill.
Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 4:19pm.
HOOVER: Yeah, but he’s not a Republican anymore so you can’t say…
MAHER: He’s a teabagger, that’s the same thing.
Then Hoover joins in with "Teabagger who was just given a Medicare card."
They just can't help themselves.
Hey, Ms. Hoover, how about allowing people who don't want Medicare to "opt-out" while they're working?
Just let those who want to take it pay for it.
Ditto Social Security.
Encouraging that MSNBC is not in basic or extended package
Submitted by exLib on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 4:20pm.
In order to get MSNBC you have to have channels in the 200 range and that requires the Premier package.
On the downside, I had to keep my extended basic service in order to keep Fox.
The only station that is included with basic is CNN Headline News of all things.
Cable package are most idiotic and frustrating thing I have ever seen in the marketplace. You are forced to buy so much garbage programming in order to get what you want it's ridiculous.
It would be like going to a restaurant and say "I would like some Filet Mignon" And they say, if you want FM you have to buy $50 worth of food you don't want along side it.
Cable really needs to get a ala carte option out there. Imagine how many crap stations would just go and die?
go directtv , they are all
Submitted by countryfirst on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 10:10pm.
go directtv , they are all included in the basic package
As the
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 2:07am.
service tech who installed my DirecTV said, "if they gave you ala carte, who'd sign up for the HSN and NASA channel?". I agree about the channels we get stuck with, who in their right mind wants to watch MTV and MTV2? CNN? MSNBC? HLN? If there was a way to get rid of them, I'd do it in a heart beat.
a la carte
Submitted by Joe the Cop on Mon, 11/01/2010 - 8:32am.
I've raised this question w/ my cable company a couple of times. As a bachelor who's not into sports (at least, nothing so esoteric that I have to tune into ESPN2), I get dozens of sports and kids' channels for which I have no use. My tech tells me that a la carte for every subcriber would be costlier than the package system.
You could always use the parental controls to simply filter out the programming you don't want to see.
For the record, I'd totally sign up for the NASA channel.
LOL
Submitted by StanO360 on Mon, 11/01/2010 - 12:34pm.
Nobody watches MSNBC, that's why it's being kicked up to "Premier".
The "extended" cable are the boiler plate stations that they push everyone to get. If they put Fox News in basic, there may be a significant number of viewers that would not get extended.
"Premier" is for those few that "really have to have it" and am willing to pay for it, niche college sports stations etc. It looks like your cable company has now thrown MSNBC into that category because it's ratings are so low that it is now a niche!
NUMBSKULLS
Submitted by dmaley1714 on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 4:26pm.
These guys that are talking about bullying gays at the begining and then use the term "teabaggers" because they think teabagging, a homosexual activity, is something bad and gross. It is pretty much the equivilant of calling the Tea Party fags.
dmaley1714, I was thinking
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 4:35pm.
dmaley1714,
I was thinking exactly the same thing.
What if Salam had casually - and purposely - use the word "fag" without so much as batting an eye?
I could just imagine the stunned silence that would result.
Hypocrites.
Noel, How Can You?
Submitted by GeneralAl on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 4:43pm.
Noel, how can you call this a smack down when Salam used the filthy term "Tea Baggers" right along with O'Dumb Bell and Scarred Mahred?
"Old Soldiers never die, they just fade away"!
As is clear from the
Submitted by troglodyt on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 4:59pm.
As is clear from the transcript he spoke in quotation marks.
Funny
Submitted by well99 on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 5:11pm.
Libs are always crying about taxes needing to be raised.Why arent they fireing their tax accounts and taking no tax deductions.
Because taxes are only for
Submitted by HockeyKid on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 7:23pm.
Because taxes are only for those who are not pure of heart.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Exactly what I was thinking
Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 8:40pm.
Exactly what I was thinking and praying the two "conservative" guests would bring up.
It may be childish,
Submitted by Jack Herman on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 5:51pm.
but I think it's time to continually throw around the term D-bag when talking about these idiots like Maher, O'Donnell, Olbermann, Schultz, etc. who just don't get it.
Clash of the Titans
Submitted by cobokat on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 7:08pm.
Last night I attended the annual Clash of the Titans at Regent University in VA Beach VA. The panel was the brilliant Charles Krauthammer, Laura Ingraham, Harold Ford, Jr. and James Carville. The topic was "is the country going left or right?" Of course Charles was spot on all through the debate and made his points very clear. James Carville was rude-constantly putting his head down and talking to Harold while either Charles or Laura was speaking. I attend this event every year and it is more and more evident that liberals really have no talking points and really cannot defend their agenda. Harold said the BHO had done many good things for the country-very few applauded. Charles said the country does not want a leftist president and that he would hear this loud and clear on Tuesday-to a thunderous applause. He also pointed out that the Tea Party is a GOOD THING-more heavy applause!
Bill Maher-are you listening??!!
Krauthammer is one of my favorite commentators.
Submitted by samhermanmd on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 7:13pm.
He is, of course, a psychiatrist and professional colleague. Beyond that training, he is a shrewd political analyst and columnist with whom I rarely disagree. He has had his moments, but overall his positions are always based on facts, reason and a thorough consideration of the available evidence. I have watched him destroy more than a few intellectually bankrupt liberal pundits when they strayed into psychobabble territory. These moments were not only refreshing, but underscored the veracity of the points he was making.
'The hammer' is probably the
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 8:35pm.
'The hammer' is probably the sharpest commentator or TV, as far as I can tell............and you never have any problem understanding what he says. He was a little 'slow' in figuring out Boy Blunder - which surprised me - but he's 'lights out' now, and he can lay down the law with his assessments and statements.................
Dr. Krauthammer
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 8:06pm.
When I first started reading Charles Krauthammer's articles in The New Republic in the early 80's, I likewise thought he was an awfully shrewd political analyst. Of course that was when he was mostly a liberal.
Jer
I also read his columns back in the 1980s.
Submitted by samhermanmd on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 8:14pm.
Apparently he followed Churchill's dictum,
“If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”Since he is a fellow psychiatrist and extremely well regarded in the profession as a pioneer in the diagnosis of bipolar disorder, I respect his change of position.
Are you saying that his conservative awakening somehow decreases his credibility?
Dr. Krauthammer's ideological journey
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 8:52pm.
Well, I always respect a principled change of position, regardless of one's profession. For some reason, I just don't find Dr. Krauthammer to be quite as politically shrewd as I once believed him to be. :-)
By the way, that 'liberal heart/conservative brain' quote is commonly but incorrectly attributed to Churchill. However, you are in good company. Krauthammer has made the same mistake.
Jer
We have had our disagreements....
Submitted by samhermanmd on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 8:56pm.
...but I don't doubt Krauthammer's capacity for political shrewdness despite his change in position. I respect him as a person of integrity, which is more than I can see for many people on both sides of the political fence or straddling it.
As for the provenance of the quote, I don't doubt that it was was uttered but inconveniently lost in the mists of history. But I cannot quite see Google as an authority on anything but intrusion of privacy or surrender to political whim as a matter of commercial convenience.
I believe you miss my point
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 9:27pm.
I believe you miss my point as well as my levity (despite that big smiley thing at the end of my comment). My remark was intended as a reminder of how we often tend to view another's shrewdness, acuity, judgment, wisdom etc., by the degree to which his or her opinions agree with our own. [See Huffington, Arianna for example, who, now that she's a liberal, is suddenly a blithering idiot.]
Back to the Churchill quote. He may very well have once said something akin to your "dictum". But he definitely was not its original source.
Jer
I don't miss your point, Jer.
Submitted by samhermanmd on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 10:05pm.
It is irrelevant whether he was the original source of the comment or not. It is attributed in popular culture to him, thus becoming his signature political metaphor. Churchill himself was liberal/progressive in the British parliament in his earlier years, until he became a member of the conservative side. Read his autobiography where he describes his political transformation. To a large extent, Ronald Reagan's journey from Democrat to Republican mirrored Churchill's transformation.
I doubt anyone on this site every believed Arianna Huffington was anything but a crackpot - she sponsored "Overthrow the Government" movement in the 1990s and advanced so many conflicting political ideas that she shifted more often than the San Andreas fault.
If there is one reliable thing about this site, it is your consistency in advancing a liberal agenda. I remain unconvinced by the sophistry, but so be it.
(sigh!) You're off the mark again, but...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:49pm.
then, missing points and mentioning your profession have become the two most consistent themes of your posts.
I'm not sure at what point popular culture was infused with Churchillian apocrypha. I first heard the quote in my teens and at the time it was generally attributed to George Bernard Shaw.
Jer
No, he is not off the mark---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 12:42am.
he doesn't miss points, and anyone who is not proud enough of being in a particular profession to mention he is in that profession, should not be in that profession.
There are lawyer jokes for a reason, and I doubt it is because lawyers are universally loved.
Since no one has definitively laid out any case proving or disproving what Churchill actually said or did not say reference age-heart-liberal-older-conservative-brain, then all bets are off.
Or on.
Ol' Winston could have paraphrased, certainly.
Or been paraphrased, despite some indications that the original line of thought may have occurred prior to his time in the sun.
Odd, though, that a liberal Democrat would post here, all the while assuming that whatever he had to say would be the ne plus ultra of factual conversation or dissertation.
It ain't necessarily so.
MD
Gentlemen: I think it is
Submitted by stratman on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 1:05am.
Gentlemen:
I think it is fair to say that Krauthammer has been wrong at least three times in his political analyst role:
Goes to show you even geniuses can get it wrong every once in a while. That's why we are blessed with the capacity/potential for individual thought and should exercise it regularly.
As for Arianna Huff'N'Stuff, the female version of Ed Shultz, she is an opportunistic, social climbing golddigger who's intellect and command of knowledge is skin deep.
BTW, a Google search brings up this:
"The phrase originated with Francois Guisot (1787-1874): "Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head.""
A google search also brings up a number of references to that or similar quote and Churchhill. Just as your mistaken attribute, these apocrypha have a way of getting into the public consciousness.
How else do you explain the neverending cry for more socialism despite its resultant failure every single time?
Jer, I'm curious...
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 4:15pm.
I just picked up on this thread today...who DID originate the quote?
motherbelt...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 4:50pm.
I wasn't sure who first made that particular, or similar, observation. But I was pretty sure it wasn't Churchill. As I mentioned in a previous post, when I first heard it approximately 45 years ago, I thought George Bernard Shaw was generally credited with having originated it. However, I never researched it at the time.
After reading Dr. Sam's post, I googled it and came up with the same results which stratman posted above: Francois Guisot [although there have been others who have expressed similar sentiments over the course of time].
Jer
That's right
Submitted by ckc1227 on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 10:26pm.
"See Huffington, Arianna for example, who, now that she's a liberal, is suddenly a blithering idiot."
When you behave like an idiot, you are most likely an idiot. And once someone commits rape, they've suddenly become a rapist.Why should Churchill say
Submitted by troglodyt on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 9:37pm.
Why should Churchill say something like that? He was a conservative all his life. And even if he said that: As is well known and often pointed out around here, the term "liberal" had a very different meaning at that time.
Problem is Churchill never
Submitted by troglodyt on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 8:52pm.
Problem is Churchill never said that (It wouldn't have made much sense in his time and for him personally anyway), but Krauthammer himself (though probably not as the first one) attributed it to him.
GOP Sets Up Voter Fraud Hotline
Submitted by im41 on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 8:09pm.
HEY LIBERALS -- WE ARE WATCHING -- WE ARE WANTING -- WE ARE WAITING FOR YOU TO COMMIT VOTER FRAUD!!Any time someone brings up
Submitted by Snappy on Sat, 10/30/2010 - 10:11pm.
Any time someone brings up the false argument of "not gonna collect SS" or medicare I always answer in the affirmative..IF they refund all the money I paid into the system, every dime, then I will gladly opt out of the system.
No, no!
Submitted by okiehawk44 on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 4:43am.
I want all my money back plus what I would have been able to make with it when you took it from me and then interest on that loan to you.
The check will be big so start writing.
P.S. The early retirement age of 62 should rise as the age for full SS benefits rises (i.e. it's 67 now and early retirement should be 64 and if full SS benefits go to 70 early retirement should rise to 67)
Bingo
Submitted by GregE on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 4:08pm.
Give my money back and I'm out too. As it is now, every year when I get my Social Security report my head explodes.
You know, if I were gay...
Submitted by gopcongress on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 12:33pm.
You know, if I were gay, I'd be RESENTING the intended slur against tea party conservatives by the disparaging use of the word "teabagger." I don't undestand how the left doesn't understand that obvious trait.
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Condescending
Submitted by Daisytoo on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 2:09pm.
The Left is far more interested in being condescending than in being reasonable or even logical. So, if they can condescendingly disparage the very folks (in this case gays) they pretend to stand up for while insulting the people they are riddled with fear over, this is a win win for the left. Why do gays not resent this? Mostly because they tend to identify w/the left.
Always using "tea baggers"
Submitted by GregE on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 4:13pm.
Always using "tea baggers" just gives them some satisfaction. They can't win on ideas.
Someone needs to ask all of these liberals, everytime, what is so extreme about following the Constitution? Then sit back and let them crap on it.
"sanity baggers"
Submitted by MrShy on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 4:29pm.
Hey, sorry, but it's eye-for-an-eye these days.
And maybe the more apt term for them is... racist baggers?
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Lawrence O'Donnell is a
Submitted by GregE on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 4:14pm.
Lawrence O'Donnell is a moron. I've heard the tired argument as well, about Medicare. He says he'd like to see a "tea bagger" burn a Medicare card.
O'Donnell, can a person opt out of paying part of his wages into Medicare? No, he cannot.
Burn the document which forces me to pay into it, and I'll burn the card. But the reality is, I've payed a ton into it already so return my money, with interest and I'll burn my future card too. For those who have not yet, give them the option to NOT pay and they'll burn the card.
Maher is such a moron...
Submitted by stage9 on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 9:17pm.
He sits on his supposed moral high horse condemning Conservatives for taking a moral stand against homosexuality and racists and then hypocritically calls Tea Partiers "teabaggers".
So it's ok to spew lying hate, just so long as it's liberal hate.
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner." — Malcolm Muggeridge
Schooled again
Submitted by Caringwhiteguy on Sun, 10/31/2010 - 10:01pm.
I am one of the few people in the universe who actually saw Lawrence O'Donnell's confrontation with the four "Teabaggers" he said were on his MSNBC program. I can say without doubt that each and every one of them CLEANED HIS CLOCK!
If anyone can find Little Larry's demise captured on tape it might be fun to watch.