Former Fox News contributor Jane Hall said Sunday that one of the reasons she left the cable network was because she was uncomfortable with host Glenn Beck who she believes "should be called out as somebody whose language is way over the top and scary."
Fox watchers know Hall as one of the regular liberal panelists on Saturday's "Fox News Watch" as well a frequent guest on "The O'Reilly Factor" where she was typically paired opposite former CBSer Bernard Goldberg.
On Sunday's "Reliable Sources," with the discussion centering on the White House's battle with Fox, Hall disclosed the decision behind her departure (video embedded below the fold with partial transcript, relevant section at 8:20):
JANE HALL, FORMER FOX CONTRIBUTOR: The reason I left was in part because I think they have had less debate than they used to. But, you know, it is a fair point to say how much debate is there on MSNBC? I mean, how many Republican strategists? We have a bifurcation of the media that I think is going on.
HOWARD KURTZ, HOST: Wait a second. Wait a second. The reason you left is you feel they have less debate than they used to. In other words, it used to be "Hannity and Colmes," now it's just "Hannity."
HALL: Right, and I was on...
KURTZ: It used to be Bernie and Jane, now it's just Bernie.
HALL: Yeah, I think there's less debate than there was, and I'm also frankly uncomfortable with Beck who I think should be called out as somebody whose language is way over the top and scary.
KURTZ: And was that a factor in your deciding to leave Fox?
HALL: Yeah, it was.
KURTZ: Alright.
Fascinating.
For the record, Hall earlier in the segment contested her liberalness claiming she's actually a moderate.
I doubt highly those that have watched her on Fox the past eleven years would agree with her assessment.
Exit question: Might Beck really have entered into Hall's decision to leave Fox, or is that just a convenient excuse that will likely get Hall a lot of favorable press from media members who don't like him?
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October 25, 2009 - 10:10 ET by ricklailHow many want to bet she winds up at MSNBC were people like Madcow, Shultz, Thrill up my leg boy and bathtub boy are so much more "civil."
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
→ Jane's addiction and rehab
October 25, 2009 - 10:13 ET by Cool ArrowMaybe she'll get her image rehabilitated up against the likes of Bathtub Boy.
She thinks she's a moderate becasue she doesn't say dirty words on the air.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Jane, you ignorant slut!
October 25, 2009 - 10:21 ET by bse5150Jane, you ignorant slut! Don't you know that people are sick of hearing the Liberal line? And to try to pull that crap on FoxNews - where people go to escape the Liberal line from the alphabets! Enjoy your new home in your safe Liberal bubble with a bunch of people who think like you do - defending Dear Leader at all costs and avoiding the truth.
→ Marc Lamont Hill
October 25, 2009 - 10:23 ET by Cool ArrowOK, I'll admit she's less liberal than another urinalist FOX let go recently.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Cool Arrow
October 25, 2009 - 11:42 ET by shannon20Did Hill leave FOX? If he did thats the best news I've heard all day! He will probably be starting @ the WH, soon!
He Left, But Not Necessarily Willingly
October 25, 2009 - 13:02 ET by CGattonHe left, because he was let go...apparently the question was raised at a powers-that-be meeting..."why is he here?"
V/R
Clyde
"...the aspirants to tyranny are either the...men of the state, who in democracies are demagogues,... or those who hold great offices, and have a long tenure.." - Aristotle, Politics, c350BC
I don't mind the liberal line
October 25, 2009 - 10:42 ET by StarAZRemember--fair and BALANCED? Fox actually is most of the time. I don't go there to get "away" from liberals, and if I wanted only WH talking pts, I know where I COULD go.
Exactly
October 25, 2009 - 12:44 ET by Gat New YorkWatching Jane Hall she always seemed uncomfortable with all of her appearances and did not agree with any of the views opposed by left wingers.
I absolutely agree that she will end up on MSLSD.
The bottom line is always
October 26, 2009 - 12:25 ET by reelman46Defending secular socialism is a very tough job...especially versus Goldberg and other excellent conservative challengers...
so go sit with the other apostles of socialism...
are there ANY really honest cogent rational defenders of secular socialism anyway???
Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)
She's a Commie from Way Back
October 26, 2009 - 13:36 ET by farstar99No surprise here.
→ Bye Bye Jane
October 25, 2009 - 10:11 ET by Cool ArrowYou left because your students were laughing about you getting your butt kicked every time you tried to pass something off as logic.
Jane? A "moderate"
Nickelodeon and green slime comes to mind.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
The real reason she quit
October 25, 2009 - 15:33 ET by BDThe real reason she quit was that she was forced on a weekly basis on Fox Newswatch to defend the indefensable in front of an audience who was forced to stare at her dumbstruck in horror as she made her efforts.
Hell, she was likely never even in the Fox offices when Beck was there. She just got tired of getting her behind spanked by Jim Pinkerton.
Jane a Moderate
October 25, 2009 - 22:24 ET by Secret ConservativeI suppose, compared to her friends, Jane is a moderate. In fact, she probably left Fox because:
1) Fox did not launch the new "Hannity and Hall" show she wanted,
2) She wasn't getting invited to as many cocktail parties because she was considered so "right wing" by the other people in her neighborhood and social circle.
Hall -- a moderate?
October 25, 2009 - 10:17 ET by GalvanicFor the record, Hall earlier in the segment contested her liberalness claiming she's actually a moderate.
I doubt highly those that have watched her on Fox the past eleven years would agree with her assessment.
Can't me among those viewers. Hall -- a professor of journalism, as I recall -- has consistently uttered liberal talking points and bumper sticker rhetoric on Fox News. I always assumed that she was hired so that the network could essentially point at her and say, "See? This is kind of the academic absurdity we've been telling you about."
Another Hatchet Whacker ..er .. Whacko
October 25, 2009 - 10:46 ET by Sterling FlatsMs. Hall keeps whacking at the same targets that the White House has bullseyed. Hannity, Beck, etc.
The problem is, that she and everyone else make zero sense because based on the 'balanced' theory, the Alphabet News Orgs are epic fails and Fox wins.
Glenn is a lampooner and a darn good one. So, yes, he does go overboard to make his points. But, you know what? He's pretty darn accurate about White House shennanigans, constitutionality, webs of deceit, and the pulse of main street America.
I like Jane Hall
October 25, 2009 - 10:28 ET by BlondeShe's a liberal to be sure, but she added to the discussions on Fox. And compared to loons like Keefy & Maddow, she is moderate, so I can't get too twisted about her describing herself as such.
I'd imagine she's one of those who has only read of Beck's antics and hasn't actually listened to him. He is over the top goofy sometimes, but he has a staff to research his claims, and he deserves the credit for putting ACORN and Van Jones front and center. If that makes him scary, scare me some more!
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde
October 25, 2009 - 10:41 ET by well99I agree that she was a more rational liberal and I liked her.I didnt agree with most of what she said but she has the right to her opinion.As far as Beck well even though he is off the wall at times his points arent and he backs them up with facts.Beck is very methodical and lays it all out there for you to make up your mind.Unlike the 3 stooges over at msnbc.The only fact about them is they are talking out their ...whatever.
→ That's right
October 25, 2009 - 10:45 ET by Cool ArrowWho needs facts and research when you can tell us how you feeeel?
Thanks, Jane, but I feeeel fine with your departure.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
CA
October 25, 2009 - 11:01 ET by well99Like I said I did like Jane.On the vid she seems to be hem hawing but most the time I saw her she wasnt that way.Just curious if that lying puke from Huff and Puff is Obie and Madcows offspring?He lies as much as them.
THE FUSION OF ENTERTAINMENT & ENLIGHTENMENT...
October 25, 2009 - 11:32 ET by danybhoyIt seems to me that Jane Hall has a problem with the way Beck presents the issues. Balance might be 1 issue, but I'm not totally buying her story about Beck being over the top. She is not nearly well educated enough to judge Beck's commentary about everything swirling around Obama. Beck has killed himself to learn about all things "progressive" & similar.
I've listened to him for years, & he's right way more often then not. He'll say something that at the time sounds off the hook insane at the time, & will be proven right over time. His track record is getting better, & he's doing the work that many "journalists" will not do. It's sad to see Jane go, but if she feels that way, good luck to her. BTW Jane, Beck did the very same sort of thing, he dumped General Motors as a longtime sponser when they were bailed out. Too many conservatives like Hannity kept working with them while denouncing the actual takeover. Take stand & pass on the sponsership deal. Beck gave up way more money then Jane did by leaving FoxNews.
"...How blind can you be, don't you see...
...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."
Nightwish
Hall is scarier than Beck
October 25, 2009 - 10:45 ET by GalvanicHe's often over the top and melodramatic, but then, he declares in virtually every episode that he's not a journalist.
Apparently what's scary to people like Hall is that a self-professed non-journalist seems to be exposing the stories that the MSM should be digging into.
Who's scarier: Self-described Communist and WH czar Van Jones, or Beck and the others on Fox who exposed him? If Beck was wrong, why did the WH quietly cut Jones loose instead of defending him?
Who's scarier: Beck and Fox who broadcast the work of two courageous young investigators into the corruption of Federally-funded ACORN field offices and programs, or the MSM who initially ignored the story? How scary is it that the NY Times suspended its own investigation of ACORN in October 2008 because it could be a "game-changer?" If Beck and Fox were wrong, why did the Congress cut off the stimulus money to ACORN after the third video was posted?
Hall is scarier than Beck.
Scariness in decline
October 26, 2009 - 09:10 ET by needleI would agree, the NYT wins the scariness contest with its slick subterfuge. However, as their circulation numbers continue to drop they become less scary. I sometimes wonder what their circulation numbers would be if you subtract out libraries, which feel they must subscribe to the fish wrap of record.
- Relying upon the Liberal Media for your information is like relying upon an embezzler for your portfolio management.
- I didn't leave the Republican Party; the Republican Party left me.
blonde
October 25, 2009 - 11:37 ET by shannon20I agree... I believe she was more rational and willing to tell the truth then the totally insane Mark Lamont Hill and Alan Colmes, but to say Beck is scary and dangerous is ludicrous! That is the only argument they have because, they can't call him out on the facts. When Beck tells us about all the crazy shit, that Obama and his lackies say and do, then shows video and has audio and pictures, to back it up, what do you do? Attack the messenger!
Hall on Beck
October 25, 2009 - 11:50 ET by BlondeI think it's fashionable amongst the liberal elites to use Beck as their newest demon. Jane was merely spouting the latest liberal kool-aid.
Beck is the new Rush.
They haven't been able to bring Rush down, after numerous tries and attempts (because Rush so deftly turns it back on them....how'd that letter of condemnation work out for you, Dingy Harry?). Since Beck is a relative newcomer (now that his show is on Fox he is getting huge audiences), they're merely trying him on for size. I worry about him, though. I think he draws so much liberal ire that he may actually have some liberal moonbat take a shot at him, a la John Lennon. That's what scares me about Beck. I know he won't quit. And the loony left won't either.
I hope he fails, too.
I'm not worried
October 25, 2009 - 14:37 ET by zachlindI’m not worried. I don’t think Perez Hilton has enough coins in his purse to call it a weapon.
Watch out for armed leftists
October 26, 2009 - 14:58 ET by needleFair point about Perez, but we all know leftist loons are legion.
However, I suspect one of the most important [unspoken] reasons leftist are so anti-gun really has to do with the fact they do not trust themselves with a gun.
- Relying upon the Liberal Media for your information is like relying upon an embezzler for your portfolio management.
- I didn't leave the Republican Party; the Republican Party left me.
Yep, I a cant get to excited
October 25, 2009 - 13:56 ET by general companyAbout Jane either Blonde, I have always thought her to be reasonable. I used to like the segments with Bernie. She is a long way from anyone on mslsd.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
When one sees themselves as moderate.
October 25, 2009 - 10:28 ET by TjexciteWhen one sees themselves as moderate. They see Glenn Beck in the far far right. But when the scale is moved back to having them deep in the liberal camp, Glenn Beck come close back to the norm of the right camp.
This is quite common for the left. There are moderates and far right kooks, never any left kooks there just center left moderates
Hall
October 25, 2009 - 10:35 ET by iveseenitallShe quit. Colmes quit. They did it themselves. They weren't fired. Now the lefties are acting as though it was a Fox's decision. Only Hannity now? Only Goldberg now? The truth is they left because they couldn't compete in the world of no spin. Only in places like MSNBC will people like Hall feel "comfortable" spouting their nonsence. ( Oh yes, also in the classroom where she gets little opposition). "Liberals" don't debate because they are not capable of it. Even they know what fools they make of themselves with their illogical pap.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Hall quit?
October 25, 2009 - 14:24 ET by Jerry MackColmes is still at Fox. Does weekly segment with BOR. How do we know that she actually quit and was not fired or rehired at end of contract?
Maybe someone just offered her a bucket of money.....
October 25, 2009 - 11:05 ET by superconIt happens all the time. I bet Fox would kill to get Lou Dobbs to
jump ship or even Joe Scarborough. CNN stole Paula Zahn from FOX and FOX has
picked off a few CNN-er's as well.
" if Republicans are able to stop Barack Obama on health care, 'it will be his Waterloo, it will break him...." -Sen. Jim DeMint
I don't want sacrborough
October 25, 2009 - 19:23 ET by countryfirstI don't want sacrborough anywhere near fox he is a rino, let him stay at the state run media
Indeed. Let him stay at
October 25, 2009 - 19:25 ET by Free StinkerIndeed.
Let him stay at MSLSD.
cf... Amen to
October 25, 2009 - 19:28 ET by bigtimercf...
Amen to that!
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
I agree. To put it nicely
October 25, 2009 - 20:28 ET by ThoreauI agree. To put it nicely he fits the RINO role all too well. And if I were to give him more credit, he would start tipping the scales of neo-con in his philosophy.
Jane Hall, (prof. of communications?) somewhere...
October 25, 2009 - 10:37 ET by SmartyMartyhelps us understand why the media are so full of such loony leftists after being indoctrinated by the likes of this "instructor."
I noticed she was not on NewsWatch
October 25, 2009 - 10:39 ET by StarAZI noticed she was not on Fox News Watch. She always looked so weary and sad and didn't have too much to say and certainly nothing critical of Obama, so I don't miss her that much, sorry, Jane. As for her trashing Beck--try watching Beck first. He is "scary," but not in the way she was implying.
"It used to be Hannity and
October 25, 2009 - 10:41 ET by MikeB"It used to be Hannity and Colmes, then it was just Hannity."
"It used to be Bernie and Jane, now it's just Bernie."
"There is less debate than there was [on Fox]."
Could it be that anytime there was debate on the issues instead of ad hominem attacks against the conservative du jour, the liberal got his/her @$$ handed to him/her, and they got tired of it and left? That could easily explain why there is less debate on Fox than there was, and why there is next to no debate on the drive-by media: the nets like CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC just don't allow conservatives on. The few times conservatives are on those nets, it usually ends up like the debate between Joyless Blowhard and Ann Coulter the other day.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
O'Reilly's segments with
October 25, 2009 - 11:35 ET by danybhoyO'Reilly's segments with Goldberg are great, Jane Hall does'nt seem to be missed. Also, I love that O'Reilly has Huddy & Gutfeld on weekly as well. Not to mention Colmes is now a regular guest with Monica on The Factor.
As for Jane Hall, God bles & good bye.
"...How blind can you be, don't you see...
...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."
Nightwish
Jane can get back to her
October 25, 2009 - 10:47 ET by d1carterJane can get back to her echo chamber so that her students can now learn the "journalism" business without any distractions. The future looks bright./s
I didn't realize she left
October 25, 2009 - 10:54 ET by gmaniac1I didn't realize she left and good riddance to her and Hill. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
I don't remember Beck getting all this criticism when he was over at HLN doing the SAME thing. Hmm, it's funny how favorable ratings put you in the spot light.
Jane Hall and FOX
October 25, 2009 - 10:55 ET by Dr. RonOh, Gee...now she can carry the liberal's water somewhere else. I assume she thinks Olbermann and Maddow and the other screeching liberal hate-mongers and liars are not "scary". Well, Ms. Hall there is always MSNBC, CNN et al.
Ronald John Lofaro, PhD
Hear no evil, See no Evil, Speak no evil = Communism
October 25, 2009 - 10:59 ET by CrashGlenn Beck is great on the radio, but, I cannot watch him on television. He seems kooky and melodramatic, not his words mind you, but his actions.
As far as Jane goes. Many liberals call themselves moderates or independents. Much like several members of congress run as Republicans though they're really like that nimrod from Pennsylvania. I don't think her reasons for "leaving" Fox had anything to do with Beck coming, nor Colmes going, I think CNN offered her more money.
That said, I think Fox will lose a lot of "moderates" because they don't want to belong to a network that allows criticism of their messiah.
Becks' Fox TV show is better on Sirius radio
October 25, 2009 - 11:44 ET by Paarlyou are right....he is overemotive and it does not play well on TV..the show is terrific on Sirius...Beck has filled a gap and has done terrific journalism in ferreting out the very strange personel inside the Obama admin..
I come from a very RED family...my family was very much involved in the Communist International....from Moscow to Newark NJ to Paterson NJ to 1950s Rhodesia. I was raised on the pablum and cultism of the Communist movement...I know (or knew)its history having been subject to the propaganda as a young boy...I knew thevarious Politburos like normal kids knew the 1927 and 1961 Yankees and 1956 MontrealCanadiens (with the Rocket ;>))....how this pertains to Beck is that in the early years of the revolution Lenin had shadow governments/cabinets as well....he had a policy of appointing what were called 'Narcoms'....trusted party officials who hadNO RELEVANT EXPERIENCE to run different parts of the government and/or economy (they were actually one and the same). This was a policy designed to deliberately undermine established procedures in the civil service and industry and to place reliable people in key positions and make life uncomfortable for those who were there before 1917.
I think Beck has done yeoman's work in shining a journalistic spotlight on the 'czars'/narcoms' of the Obama admin...you don't have to be a Columbia educated journalist to ferret out truth...in fact that type of backround might be a hinderance to recognizing right andwrong and malfeasance etc....
Paarl of Rhodesia
Mannerisms
October 25, 2009 - 13:38 ET by miss911ninjaI'm a huge fan of Glenn's and think he's doing the country a great service. But on television, his mannerisms distract from his message. I agree that he comes off as melodramatic. I can still watch him, but prefer him on the radio where he seems much more relaxed.
Who? I haven't seen Jane Hall on Fox News in years.
October 25, 2009 - 11:01 ET by JWFShe is a zippy talking head. Everytime her head appears, I reach for the zippy button. Not a big loss here. My remote control will get a break.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
She used to say
October 25, 2009 - 11:06 ET by StarAZShe had staked out the territory of knowing what "young people" thought and did--and said her students got their news from comedy shows and late nite. I guess none of them watched her on Fox...and now she will teach them that if you don't agree with others on a channel in your future career as an opinion maker, then just quit with a sideways slam at someone.
Obama "over the top and scary"
October 25, 2009 - 13:24 ET by Ten7s"...I'm also frankly uncomfortable with Beck who I think should be called out as somebody whose language is way over the top and scary."
Jane, you need to watch those Glenn Beck programs again. The "over the top and scary" stuff was
OBAMA's Czars,
OBAMA's White House staff, and
OBAMA's political supporters
IN THEIR OWN WORDS on video.
Ten7 -- the guy's an opinion
October 25, 2009 - 13:43 ET by Jack BauerTen7 -- the guy's an opinion show host on cable TV. That's it. On a good night he get's an audience slightly bigger than Iron Chef.
He can't send people off to die. Or use his TV power to effect legislation that will change America in a profound way.
Or hand out power over your life to unelected drones.
All he can do is use the rights enumerated in the constitution to speak his mind.
You're right...
The scary one in this equation is the President of the |United States, elected by 52.7% of the popular vote: yet who seems to think he has a huge mandate to socialize America.
Progressive coordinated message
October 25, 2009 - 11:24 ET by OneCleverCookieIsn't funny how Progressives are in favor of dissent when they aren't not holding the reins of power, and yet, when they are bestowed with them, any robust, bold, opposition is painted as a intolerant whack job that promotes violence against their chosen.
Glenn Beck has asked repeatedly on his program for this administration to PROVE him wrong with factual information, yet Obama, and his Progressive minions remain silent, refusing to present evidence to the contrary of Mr. Beck's position on the issues. It is very apparent to any logical, objective thinking individual that Mr. Beck has either hit the bullseye, or is so close to the mark with his analysis of Obama's Progressive agenda , that the current administration is working diligently to obfuscate their true motives by attacking the the lone voice of meaningful dissent, Glenn Beck & Fox News.
Ms. Hall in nothing more than just a cog in the Progressive machine, whether she in concious of this fact, or not.
1 CLEVER COOKIE...
October 25, 2009 - 21:19 ET by danybhoyYou nailed it. Beck is over the target & hitting it. He is challenging Obama & his thugs to shut him up with the facts, & they can't, BECAUSE HE'S RIGHT.
I said it before, the left will always tell who they fear on the right by how had they attack them. Beck is a huge target.
"...How blind can you be, don't you see...
...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."
Nightwish
Good Riddance?
October 25, 2009 - 11:24 ET by slickwillie2001I'd say good riddance, but she was replaced with the insipid and grating Judith Miller. Hall was mostly on with Cal Thomas and James Pinkerton, not Goldberg.
I find the program of not much value because between the ads, the Fox self-advertising, and the intros to each segment, the regulars end up with only a few seconds each.
Boo-freaking-hoo Jane!
October 25, 2009 - 11:30 ET by jefflebowskiThat little ol' thing called the First Amendment bothers you, does it Jane? Apparently not when it allows hatred spewed from the pieholes of wacko liberals! I watch Fox as my only TV news source and don't remember her at all. Telling.
Angry White Dude
www.angrywhitedude.c...
Sadly I have known people
October 25, 2009 - 11:39 ET by Darasenby StarAZ
"She had staked out the territory of knowing what "young people" thought
and did--and said her students got their news from comedy shows and
late nite. I guess none of them watched her on Fox...and now she will
teach them that if you don't agree with others on a channel in your
future career as an opinion maker, then just quit with a sideways slam
at someone."
Sadly I have known people who say they get thier news from the Daily Show. To think they are allowed to vote.
"Sadly I have known people
October 25, 2009 - 11:49 ET by MikeB"Sadly I have known people who say they get thier news from the Daily Show. To think they are allowed to vote. "
Why should those people be any more pathetic or scary than those who get their indoctrination ... 'scuse me, news, from MSDNC or the other alpabet nets? While the Daily Show is more entertaining than the news on the SRM, it is scarcely less accurate.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Yes, acc to polls
October 25, 2009 - 12:08 ET by StarAZYes, according to polls, the younger demo does get snatches of info from these shows--but she was talking about her communication students at American Univ--you would think, or I did, that THEY would branch out a bit.
Jane Hall
October 25, 2009 - 11:43 ET by HoosierEmIt's funny how liberal journalists seem to think that we are not intelligent enough or able to distinguish between truth and a "what if?" scenario. Most of what Glenn Beck says I agree with but some of his stuff actually forces the viewer to think about possible outcomes as a result of government actions, and I, for one, appreciate that.
I believe most Beck watchers are able to come to watch him with an objective eye and then come to their own conclusions about what is going on, or what could possibly happen in the future.
Liberals seem to think the people are not able to do that.
I have to say that I
October 25, 2009 - 11:45 ET by Blix AmericaI have to say that I honestly find Glen Beck to be utterly insufferable. His googly eyed black helicopter, boogie man , over the top, crocodile tears style just repulse me. I’d much rather listen to O’Riley or Cavuto or John Stossel. But Beck works up the crazies and gets the ratings so he’s there to stay.
http://blixamerica.b...
Beck
October 25, 2009 - 19:56 ET by UnsaneYes, Beck does definitely do all those things that you describe. He does have a thing for touting the impending apocalypse and can tend to being a doomsayer which puts me off. I don't often agree with him. However...
1) He has a point on some things. This is why I will listen to his program on occasion, though the last time I saw his TV show was when it was being broadcast from San Antonio, in front of the Alamo - because I was at the same place at the time, along with a few thousand Tea Partiers.
2) As he does have a point on a few things - I was pondering a long awaited purchase of a 9mm last December when he suggested a plausible way for His Majesty The Shahinshah and his rubber-stamp Volkskammer to steer around the 2nd Amendment: just tax the s*** out of firearms and ammunition. As I thought about that, and figured he might be onto something, I bought a 9mm - as a tax hedge as much as something with which to practice on ranges. Now, this hasn't come to pass - yet - but it didn't hurt to get that purchase out of the way.
3) There are other such examples where I think Beck has a point but that was the best one to come to mind.
I am not a huge fan by any stretch of the imagination, but he can - and does - a great service by providing his perspective on things.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
CNN
October 25, 2009 - 11:45 ET by SimJimI love it when liberal media pretends they are above it all. To see a CNN panel comparing FOX with MSNBC while ignoring their own Obama butt-kissing is laugh out loud funny!
CNN is in the tank for Obama just as much as MSNBC. Their non-stop, pro-Obama campaign may be more nuanced, but I don't give them any credit for being sneakier than MSNBC. In fact, I prefer when the Obamanites don't pretend otherwise.
The panel is the perfect example as we have three wacky libs against one somewhat passive conservative. Is this fair and balanced? CNN is the pot calling the kettle black...so typical.
jane hall a moderate?
October 25, 2009 - 11:50 ET by larry on LIher liberal b.s. stopped at EXTREME. i loved when she was on BOR show with bernie goldberg,they played her like a ping pong ball.
What a bunch of losers...
October 25, 2009 - 12:00 ET by Ascended Conservativei hear so much whining and denouncing of Beck. "he's too extreme", "he's a right-wing nut job", "he is dangerous", etc. but i don't hear a point-by-point analysis trying to discredit him. why don't they use facts to attack him to tear down his hypotheses versus slinging mud? perhaps, Mr. Beck is really on to something? afterall, when your catching more flack, you must be over the target.
here's a question for the progressives. is there a credible source shooting down the information Beck puts out there? everytime i hear him, he claims his facts are rock solid with multiple, indepedent sources. and fankly, i trust him until someone shows me proof otherwise.
-ascended conservative
Thank You Thank You
October 25, 2009 - 12:26 ET by racer148Ascended Conservative I was just going to point that out, you saved me the typing. I love it he asks if anybody like one of the Founding Fathers instead of marxist. Attack the person, not the facts.
I'm from Chicago and like Beck says. White House is just a big extension of Chicago and Illinois democract politics.
HOW TRUE!!!!!!!
October 25, 2009 - 13:14 ET by totsotvaitnGlenn also has given his direct line phone number to the W.H.. As far as I know NUMBER OF CALLS IS ZERO ...........hmmmmm, doesn't the W.H. have someone watching Fox News 24/7?????
Glenn presents his findings in an interesting visual manner that anyone, regardless of their educational background, can understand. He reminds me of my favorite history teacher who made learning exciting and fun. I couldn't wait to get to that class. As a result of that one teacher I love the Constitution, The Bill of Rights and the Founding Fathers of our great United States. God Bless that teacher and Glenn Beck.
Hate to see old friends quarrel LOL
October 25, 2009 - 12:03 ET by SATerpAnd she worked so closely with Beck, too <sarcasm>. Did she ever even SEE Glenn face to face, ever?
Seriously, she's no loss. Just another idiot media liberal, they're certainly a dime a dozen and there's a fire sale on 'em, what with liberal media outlets going out of business about daily.
Also....
October 25, 2009 - 12:05 ET by StarAZThinking about our Jane here, I also seem to remember her slamming Palin, her gendermate. I wonder what she was like in class...Oh, well....I didn't even know they still had J-school.
Jane is not a moderate
October 25, 2009 - 12:15 ET by ekslibI hope she enjoys being cosseted by her fellow liberals.
Glenn Beck has the same effect ...
October 25, 2009 - 12:19 ET by wnaegele... as turning on a bright light in a room filled with cockroaches.
Bath Tub Boy
October 25, 2009 - 12:20 ET by racer148When Hall started to talk about Oblemann saying bad things like Beck, why did Kurtz stop her? Was it because of the Lovefest when he interviewed KO?
And loved when the Huff Post loon couldn't come up with any stupid thing to say so he told Hall to go ahead. But at least you can understand him him unlike his master who runs the site. Press 1 for english please.
Let's make this simple!
October 25, 2009 - 12:27 ET by gopcongressLet's make this simple.
If you want truth and non-biased reporting, go to Fox News.
If you, in the words of a character portrayed by the friend of child molester/abuser Roman Polanski, Jack Nicholson, "can't handle the truth," then join any other network.
This is what it has come down to. I predicted the Stossel move in 2007, for instance, because it was a no-brainer; defections from Fox like Hall and (less publicized) Alan Colmes is now the norm.
BOTTOM LINE: We temporarily have not "mainstream media" anymore, just media that says they are, but are really as far left as the Nation or Democratic Underground.
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Moderate... Democrat... Liberal... Progressive... Socialist... Communist—The progression is clear as day.
Jane's opinion worth one day's news cycle
October 25, 2009 - 12:28 ET by AbraxosJane Hall's opinion is only worth something to liberals today because it criticizes someone they don't like. They'll use her as if she's some big important conservative voice defecting to the Left. In a few days, she'll be old news and be discarded like a stale cookie.
Glenn Beck's rhetoric IS often over the top – that's his thing. Sometimes it makes me cringe, but I watch every single minute of his TV show, and listen to most of his radio shows because HE'S the one uncovering the truth about the Obama Administration.
If Jane is uncomfortable with it, that's fine, I respect that. But how does that affect her appearances on Fox? It's really her loss. Her voice was far more noticed on Fox than it ever will be on CNN.
I did not notice Jane was gone
October 25, 2009 - 12:46 ET by bfrankbecause Kirsten Powers offers good arguments from the liberal POV. I thought Jane was trying too hard to 'straddle the fence' while Kirsten gives the liberal strategist perspective for the younger demographics. Jane's claim about leaving FNC is lame since her contract most likely just ended. She was only on Fox News Watch with infrequent appearances on O'Reilly. However, FNC still has more liberals employed on their opinion shows than the other networks employ conservatives. Her comments about Beck are ignorant and simply position her to get a gig with the competitors and maintain good standing with her academia employer. The Nico character was your typical leftist wingnut spouting fabricated references and other 'quotes'. I was amused with his reference to Joe Scarbough's Morning Joe three-hour show as proof MSNBC is more balanced than Fox. Why would Roger Ailes give any ex-congressman, Democrat or Republican, a three-hour show that drives the ratings down?
Jane Hall
October 25, 2009 - 12:33 ET by rpeeler42I thought Jane Hall was not too bad considering that she was and is a liberal. I believe she teaches journalism at Georgetown or George Washington . I don't know if she is telling the truth as to why she left. That was a pretty nice gig, sit around for thirty minutes and give an opinion or two. Nice way to make a buck. By he way, I like old Glenn Beck, but I can see why he makes wimpy left wingers nervous.
oh goodness....
October 25, 2009 - 12:39 ET by Calypso JonesDIDN'T EVEN MISS HER
It's not just Liberal Media that see's Beck for what he is....
October 25, 2009 - 12:40 ET by Trickletown..Mark Levin, beloved by constitutionalists, says of Beck; "Mindless, incoherant, pathetic.":
http://tinyurl.com/yft6qz5
Michael Savage stands up for Fox News, and trashes Beck, big time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=778F3o37Qc0&feature=player_embedded
Hmmm. well.
October 25, 2009 - 12:49 ET by Calypso Joneswhere are they in this culture war? Are they investigating and putting out ANY of this information?? Then maybe they oughta do something worthwhile or just shut up.
Is Levin informing the
October 25, 2009 - 13:00 ET by Radical1979Is Levin informing the public the way Beck is about issues? I don't think so.
Sorry. Don't like the
October 25, 2009 - 13:08 ET by Jack BauerSorry. Don't like the mindless attacks on FOX News by the liberal drones, but I don't even know how you can ask that question about Matk Levin.
Beck entertains the public -- and does a public service. Levin informs the public massively, especially his beloved conservative audience.
Levin's biggest beefs with Beck are:
1. Beck isn't a gut level, committed conservative, especially when he thinks "both parties are just the same."
2. Beck steals much of his show prep from him, Mark Levin.
Now I do feel Mark does go on a tad too much about the Five Pee Emmer, as he calls him, but... in conservative and intellectual terms, comparing Beck to Levin is like comparing a Toyota to a Ferrari.
Beck sees it as a lesser of
October 25, 2009 - 13:48 ET by Ten7sBeck sees it as a lesser of two evils situation, as many do, both parties taking us in the same direction. Slowing down the ship (under Republicans) isn't a good approach, per Beck; we need to completely change the direction of the ship and begin to steer by the Constitution again.
I think they're both on the same team. The difference is approach and style.
I think Beck has a larger
October 25, 2009 - 17:07 ET by Radical1979I think Beck has a larger audience than Levin by virtue of the fact that Beck is on FOX News. In my area Levin is only on Series XM, giving him a smaller potential audience than Beck.
I also agree with Beck that the label Republican doesn't mean someone is a conservative, although Beck admits to being more of a Libertarian than anything.
I guess the Toyata/Ferrari analogy is apt since many of us are so much more familiar with Toyotas.
Glen Beck - President of Clown College
October 25, 2009 - 17:24 ET by Free StinkerI think Beck has a larger audience than Levin by virtue of the fact that Beck is on FOX News.
Beck claims to be #3 on radio, but as Mark Levin has read from the Arbitron ratings, Savage is #3 followed by Levin.
Beck should have more self resepct than to claim ratings he doesn't have. He's getting monster ratings for his TV show, and is, IIRC, top ten for talk radio and should be proud of what he has earned, not claiming to have better ratings than he actually does.
Is Levin on anywhere besides
October 25, 2009 - 17:24 ET by Radical1979Is Levin on anywhere besides satellite radio? It's a pain when that's the only place you can hear people if you don't have satellite.
Rad... You can get a heck
October 25, 2009 - 17:30 ET by bigtimerRad...
You can get a heck of a lot of radio shows free on the computer...that is where I listen to all of them...I rotate some of them during the week...with the exception of Rush.
Go to TalkStreamLive...just google it.
I'm in the middle of two different things or I would put the link here for you.
Beck, Laura, Tammy Bruce, Rush, Malzberg, Levin, Brian and the Judge, Liddy, Gibson, Savage, Dobbs etc.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Levin is on over 150
October 25, 2009 - 18:37 ET by Free StinkerLevin is on over 150 stations. And he's been on in New York since 2002.
"President Obama is learning on the job and it shows." --Boris Epshteyn
→ Talk Ratings
October 25, 2009 - 17:35 ET by Cool ArrowHere's what I find.
If this is true, Levin has some reason for professional jealousy.
Levin talks common sense. Beck talks common sense with a flair for entertainment and a staff of dot-connectors, unparallelled.
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Hmmmn, they don't seem to
October 25, 2009 - 18:31 ET by Free StinkerHmmmn, they don't seem to mention audience in there.
And I doubt Levin has any reason to feel jealous. IIRC his latest book easily outsells Beck's books.
Jealousy
October 25, 2009 - 13:07 ET by OneCleverCookieBoth Levin & Savage are jealous of Beck's rating, and bully pulpit. These commentators should bolster Beck instead of undermining him. Their attacks give me great pause as to which enemy are we fighting, Progressives, or each other?
Here is a link to a different take on Glenn Beck.
http://tinyurl.com/ylfj8l3
I think Levin gets a bigger
October 25, 2009 - 13:22 ET by Jack BauerI think Levin gets a bigger audience than Beck -- seven million per show I believe.
But I agree that the real fight is between conservatives and the reactionary socialists.
question about Levin
October 25, 2009 - 13:01 ET by Ascended Conservativei think he has made peace with Beck or at least tempered his rhetoric about Beck. can anyone confirm? i have not heard him bash Beck on his show like before. but i have to admit, i don't always have the time to catch his show in the evenings.
-ascended conservative
When the co-ordinated
October 25, 2009 - 13:11 ET by Jack BauerWhen the co-ordinated attacks on Fox began a couple of weeks ago, Levin said that he stood totally behind all the hosts and would refrain from criticising Beck.
My advice
October 25, 2009 - 13:05 ET by StarAZSince, like the average Fox viewer, you can think for yourself, why not watch Beck and see if there is anything there for you to add to your mix of ideas. His mannerisms may be a little irritating, but he is grinding out the associations and background on these people. Add it to the mix. As for me, Levin is smart and credible, so I am surprised he would say this. Savage, not going to run over and see what he says. Each of us makes these decisions individually. I thought this was about Jane Hall being on Fox for yrs then suddenly leaving because of Beck, supposedly.
their are just jellybeaners as my kids used to say
October 25, 2009 - 13:56 ET by larry on LIi may not agree with his presentation but he has a way of getting his point across and thats what counts.
Treacletown
October 25, 2009 - 14:24 ET by ahusserFirst. It must be amazing to discover that conservatives are not in lockstep with the hive mind like your lefty friends and don't get their marching orders from Central Control. Secondly, no matter what you think you believe about various conservative talk show hosts you won't find the vile spewing and hate filled personal attacks that the left side uses as a matter of policy (of course Jer thinks they all are the same).
No administration in my memory, including Nixon, ever attacked individuals in the media publicly like Obama does. Not only unprecedented but very scary stuff. Don't like dissent, difference of opinion, questions, revelations just attack the source, can't touch the source then attack the news organisation that employs them.
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
ahusser...
October 25, 2009 - 15:41 ET by TrickletownI didn't discover anything. It's obvious the two opinions I posted links to affected you in quite a way. These other voices simply like to point out that Beck isn't inventing this stuff. Others have been saying it for years (without the props, puppets, puppies, funny voices, goofy facial expressions, chalkboards, funny telephones, etc ).
Your point is? Would it
October 25, 2009 - 15:52 ET by BDYour point is?
Would it surprise you to know that half of the Continental Congress that formed our nation in 1776 hated the other half?
And everyone disliked the insufferable John Adams.
I know it's Halloween season,but, it is plain scary to be....
October 25, 2009 - 15:59 ET by Trickletown....using the Founding Fathers to analogize freaking GLENN BECK. Wow.
→ Trickletoes
October 25, 2009 - 16:03 ET by Cool ArrowWhy do you care? You don't seem to have a clue as to what they created anyway.
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ok brainiac...
October 25, 2009 - 16:18 ET by Trickletown..just to make you happy, I'll put on my 3 pointy hat and sit in front of the television untill Glenn Beck comes on. Then I'll be as smart as you, Cool.
→ Not quite
October 25, 2009 - 16:37 ET by Cool ArrowIf you think it's silly to be passionate about your country, as Beck is, and the founders were, you really have no possibility of progressing much beyond a follower.
Try thinking for yourself. Try considering the motives for some of the passion great people have for their causes.
You think Al Gore isn't passionate? I would disagree.
Maxine Watters? I'd still disagree.
If you think it's all "smarts", you've already missed the boat.
Maybe you should come up with an argument that shows the foolishness of Beck rather than attack his sincerity.
But, by all means, sit in your corner until Glenn Beck comes on. Couldn't hurt the intelligence quotient of the United States, collective, I'm sure.
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---> Your point on....
October 25, 2009 - 17:15 ET by Trickletown...passion is well recieved. Sorry, but i firmly believe Beck's passion is contrived. His tears, fraudulant. He's found a high degree of notoriety, and by golly, he loves it. He and his accolytes believe half of the current Administration should be in prison for...what? Something. Maybe 'socialistic thinking'. Jane Hall thinks thats over the top. So do I.
→ Trickles
October 25, 2009 - 17:24 ET by Cool ArrowNow that you've engaged the argument, please provide links to your claim that Beck is calling for "half the Administration" going to prison.
Are you sure it's not you, contriving facts?
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What ??
October 26, 2009 - 21:42 ET by Free StinkerWhat ??
TrickleTroll hasn't answered ? I am shocked! Shocked!
/Sarcasm Off
→ Thanks, Free
October 26, 2009 - 21:44 ET by Cool ArrowI've returned to this bookmark a couple of times today thinking Trickles might have made something up, but no luck.
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Tt... You really need to
October 25, 2009 - 17:26 ET by bigtimerTt...
You really need to watch his show...especially the last two months.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Tinkletoes
October 25, 2009 - 17:32 ET by MrShy"He's found a high degree of notoriety, and by golly, he loves it."
Byyyyy golly. Serious? A media talking head/personality possibly happens to enjoy his notoriety?? Okay, you've got me sold now. That man is definitely a fraud, no question.
(koo-koo.....)
Are you a student of
October 26, 2009 - 08:32 ET by BDAre you a student of History?
I find many parallels between Sam Adams and Glen Beck. Both served largely the same purpose.
Most news media people are liberal
October 25, 2009 - 13:03 ET by ccconsultantPer iPhone App Conservative Talking Points:
Mainstream Media Professionals Are Liberal Because:
90% are pro-abortion and more than half are even for partial-birth abortion. (Source: Lichter & Rothman Surveys – 1981,1985,1986)
81% support affirmative action. (Source: LA Times – 1985)
67% are opposed to prayer in public schools. (Source: LA Times – 1985)
75% say the “government should work to reduce the income gap between rich and poor.” (Source: Study of Media Elite, Rothman & Black – 1995)
78% feel that torture should rarely or never be used on suspected terrorists. (Source: Pew Research – 2005)
They voted for the Democrat Presidential candidate: 1964-Johnson-94%, 1968-Humphrey-86%, 1972-McGovern-81%, 1976-Carter-81% (Source: Lichter & Rothman Surveys – 1981)
89% of the Washington DC news people supported Clinton in 1992. (Source: Freedom Forum Survey – 1996)
Liberals outnumber Conservatives on a 4-1 basis for journalists and news executives. (Source: Pew Research – 2007)
Proof positive
October 25, 2009 - 13:35 ET by ProudAmerican58as to why we need Fox News. They provide "Balance" -- I think that's "Fair."
GBeck
October 25, 2009 - 14:41 ET by matthewdeanPA 58 provided the perfect line to enter this thread on---
Fox News. "They provide "Balance" -- I think that's fair."
That is precisely why I thought I had died and gone to Heaven when I discovered NewsBusters.
I just read through approximately 70 posts, mainly about G. Beck.
Disclosure: I absolutely, positively, enjoy what GB has to say. I think he is an intelligent person who genuinely cares for his Country. The fact that he apparently is making a hefty buck or two as well is ok with me.
So many posts that were well stated.
Only a couple could be considered to have been any kind of admonishment, but basically they were saying that Beck is sometimes over the top with his presentation.
I certainly do not disagree with that. I have learned "what" he says matters far more than how he says it.
Another quick disclaimer:
I fell in love with StarAZ because her posts were short, sweet, and well thought out.
Then I had to divorce her because I disagreed vehemently with her take on Arpaio of Arizona (I must point out that she lives closer to the action than I do).
Her well stated post on Beck means I will now have to beg her to take me back.
Then---
Tjexcite@ 11:28ET - Paarl @ 12:44 -
then, bam, bam, bam - Ascended Conservative - Racer 148 - totsovaitin --- all good stuff.
BlixAmerica said some things reference Beck that I completely disagree with, @ 12:45ET, but Blixs' profile shows a very well ordered, and FAIR, mindset.
At 13:40, Trickletown posted in with two sentences and two links, and while the sentences irked me a tad, they were just sentences, and a profile check showed that Trickletown will go after either end of the political spectrum if required.
Can't be more fair than that.
& @ 13:28, Abraxos wrote nine perfect sentences.
Cool.
MD
"I may not agree with what your bumper sticker says, but I will defend to the death your right to stick it." (Unknown)
Beck is ok
October 25, 2009 - 15:04 ET by general companyHis show is very interesting, the points he makes are very compelling. I also think he has some theater with him, kinda like a smart Jon (Leibowitz) Stewart. It is easy to see why the Obama Admin and liberals in general are so freaked out by him. He scares me also, and what makes it so scary,,,,is nobody is refuting a single bit of it!!
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Jane Hall? Gee, I didn't notice
October 25, 2009 - 13:48 ET by carolina09I didn't notice her on Fox enough to miss her now that she's gone. Maybe that's the real reason she's gone.
The dark side forced her to leave the only news network
October 25, 2009 - 14:07 ET by Worriedbecause she wouldn't have been looked upon as someone in love with Obama.
Bribes, bribes, everywhere bribes. What else could it be?
Remember what that thug Bloom said:
We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun.
Liberals are like spoiled
October 25, 2009 - 14:20 ET by nadadhimmiLiberals are like spoiled brats. They are incapable of seeing any pov but their own. Notice, not a word about, Olberman, Matthews, Madcow, Cafferty et al, being in the slightest biased, because Hall AGREES with them. She is to intellectually dishonest to make, or event to perceive, the bias. Liberals remind me of sports fans that will applaud a bad call that HELPS their team but pi$$ and moan about the same call AGAINST their team. Completely dishonest, and if you brought up the point, I truly believe they wouldn't get what you're talking about as long as its bias FOR their side.
Just saw a commercial on FOX
October 25, 2009 - 14:28 ET by nadadhimmiJust saw a commercial on FOX during the football game that Wanda Sykes, the liberal, hatefull, bullying bull dyke from hell, has a show on FOX. Seems Murdochs money is green enough for this hypocritical biotch. Think we'll hear a peep about going back to the porch like Juan Williams had to put up with? Don't hold your breath. After all, we're talking about money for a hyper lib here.
Because this thread is about Fox NEWS Network
October 25, 2009 - 20:18 ET by ChaitealoverI feel compelled to point out to the Libs that may get excited about your note: the commercial and the biotch's program are on on Fox's ENTERTAINMENT channel [not that there's any hope of it being entertaining]. Fox News Network wouldn't give her the time of day.
Chai
“It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world.” —1906 Nobel Peace Laureate Theodore Roosevelt
Poor, poor baby!!
October 25, 2009 - 14:27 ET by DoktorFrankenScared by that scary, scary Truth. She'll be more comfortable at MSNBC, no doubt.
Most ''Moderates'' seem to be Leftists - at least when I see people in polls, posting on web sites, and on news clips. That seems to be the case more often than not. Of course, I don't watch much news so I could be wrong.
JMHO, you understand.
If Saul Alinsky owned a news channel it would be MSNBC. ---- Me
who? well whoever she is,
October 25, 2009 - 14:29 ET by right of waywho? well whoever she is, she is very unprofessional.
Jane leaving Fox
October 25, 2009 - 14:49 ET by Big MommaMaybe Jane left Fox because she caved to the pressure of the Liberal Media...perhaps they told her if she didn't, she "wouldn't work in this town again". Believe her parting shot at Beck was intended to ingratiate herself to the Lemmings.
Maybe Levin took shots at Beck on behalf of his good friend, Hannity, who gave the perception of having a burr under his saddle about the time Beck started to deliver the punches on ACORN (read: and Hannity wasn't). Pity....I thought more of Levin than that...
FOX will prevail.
Obama Lies....Freedom Dies
Didn't Even Notice She was Gone
October 25, 2009 - 15:06 ET by BondPlainBondAs a journalism professor, you'd think Jane would have paid attention to THE QUESTIONS Glenn Beck has been asking for months on end.
She'd also have noticed it was Glenn Beck that broke the stories (by asking questions) regarding Van Jones, NEA, ACORN, and The Census Bureau.
All those questions were answered within one week (7 - 12 September 2009).
That's what a journalist does, Jane. And Beck isn't even a journalist.
What's your excuse, Jane?
Poor Jane
October 25, 2009 - 15:14 ET by Cool ArrowPoor [Jane], so concerned for other folk,
And nothing to look backward to with pride,
And nothing to look forward to with hope,
So now and never any different
Robert Frost
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BPB... Why how dare
October 25, 2009 - 15:28 ET by bigtimerBPB...
Why how dare you!
She's a PROFESSOR don't ya know!
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
hey, bigtimer!
October 25, 2009 - 15:34 ET by BondPlainBondHeh heh heh.
Those that can - do, those that can't - teach!
Don't miss Jane at all...
October 25, 2009 - 15:26 ET by bigtimerI heard Hall this morning regarding this...makes no matter to me...Beck being a partial reason she says she left won't be anything I lose sleep over.
I always could take her or leave her.
I will say one thing...she can say she is a 'moderate' and she fits right in with the other so-called moderates....they straddle the fence all the time...usually always go toward the leftist light when it comes to having to make a choice one way or the other...
Which has always told me all I need to know about any of them.
JMO
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Keith O
October 25, 2009 - 15:43 ET by pgrossjrWhere did she go? MSNBC?
Every time I used to see
October 25, 2009 - 15:57 ET by fitzfongEvery time I used to see this turkey-necked old bag drone on the liberal talking points with that failed movie reviewer Neal Gabler, I was reminded of Dan Aykroyd's retort to his co-anchor Ms. Curtin on "Weekend Update": Jane, you ignorant slut...
If Beck does nothing more than run these self-righteous, lefty windbags off the network, he's earning his keep in my book. No big loss there.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
→ fitzfong
October 25, 2009 - 16:00 ET by Cool ArrowI hope he had everything to do with Marc Lamont Hill getting axed.
And no, I don't mean "asked"
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I read that had something
October 25, 2009 - 16:47 ET by fitzfongI read that had something to do with a Newscorp stockholder raising an objection to Marc Lamont Hill's past support of Mumia Abu Jamal. He always struck me as an intellectual lightweight trying to use his perceived good looks and charm to advance his Marxist sympathies...I guess if it worked for the President...
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
→ Thanks, fitz
October 25, 2009 - 16:58 ET by Cool ArrowI had not heard that somebody actually stood up in protest to a cop-killer sympathizer.
Maybe he can sling a mop with Obama's wash-woman, Nancy Pelosi..
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Wherein JWF starts a flame war with teh fitzfongs.
October 25, 2009 - 17:32 ET by JWF...his perceived good looks and charm.
My. My. My. I... You.... He is a handsome man now isn't he? I gotta get off this island and see some womens again.
Prof. Hill
October 25, 2009 - 17:39 ET by Trickletown..speaks the English language perfectly. Why make an offensive 'ebonics' comment about him. There is only one answer; you are down with making fun of black folk. Racism rears it's ugly head.
If I don't see you in the future, I'll see you in the pasture.
→ Trickles
October 25, 2009 - 17:50 ET by Cool ArrowYou lose.
I specifically said I was not referring to the colloquialism you have in mind, yet you jump to that conclusion anyway.
The admonition was for your edification, but you went stupid on me anyway.
How many years from now will the lyrics of Rap be politically incorrect in the same manner as "Uncle Remus" is today.
Doubtless you've never considered such as literature, since you're so wonderfully condescending.
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Let me use the Cool Arrow school of discourse....
October 25, 2009 - 18:11 ET by Trickletown...Martin Luther King's efforts to advance civil rights has certainly borne fruit!
(And by fruit, I didn't mean watermelon!)
If I don't see you in the future, I'll see you in the pasture.
→ I get it
October 25, 2009 - 18:18 ET by Cool ArrowYou have a notion in your head that only black people use the term "aks". Now I understand where you were going with your comment.
You, on the other hand, chose to link Martin Luther King Jr with watermelon by referring to it as a "fruit".
Watermelon is a vegetable, so your reference is contrived in order to allow you to make a racist joke about Martin Luther King Jr.
Wow, you really are a disgusting individual.
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Websters stands with me on the 'fruit or vegetable' debate...
October 25, 2009 - 18:30 ET by Trickletown...sheeesh, wrong again..
Watermelon is a Fruit
Like the pepper, tomato, and pumpkin, watermelon is botanically and scientifically a fruit. According to Webster’s dictionary and to scientists, a fruit is the ripened ovary (pistil) of a seed plant and its contents which includes the seeds. A fruid is the bud, flower, seed containing organ, or just the seed itself (Lawrence, "Taxonomy of Vascular Plants"). Site note: Tomatoes, beans, corn, artichokes, and peanuts are fruit. A watermelon is a large oblong roundish fruit.
Cool, you're a slippery fellow, but I've got you pegged. Over and out.
If I don't see you in the future, I'll see you in the pasture.
→ Be it known
October 25, 2009 - 18:34 ET by Cool ArrowTrickles will forever be known as the poster who made a Martin Luther King Jr watermelon joke.
See anybody laughing, Trickles?
I don't care what wormhole you slither through to justify your racist joke, it's still racist.
I've got it bookmarked. Not something I'll soon forget.
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Or, to put it another way,
October 25, 2009 - 18:38 ET by Free StinkerOr, to put it another way, everyone else is "on to" Trickles.
"President Obama is learning on the job and it shows." --Boris Epshteyn
***BEHOLD....
October 25, 2009 - 18:38 ET by Trickletown.. a perfect example of "He protesteth too much." ***
If I don't see you in the future, I'll see you in the pasture.
Those who were actually
October 25, 2009 - 18:43 ET by Free StinkerThose who were actually paying attention to Shakespeare in school will now all laugh to themselves as they think about how the person who made that "doth protest too much" remark was in fact the guilty party.
You are dismissed.
"President Obama is learning on the job and it shows." --Boris Epshteyn
→ Dang it Free!
October 25, 2009 - 18:46 ET by Cool ArrowYou beat me to it, methinks.
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** Too easy...
October 25, 2009 - 18:46 ET by Trickletown..free stinker ( avenger of Cool Arrow), you chastise me for not paying attention in school, yet you misspell 'school'. I know it's probably a simple typo, but the irony is beautiful. Thanks for laugh!
If I don't see you in the future, I'll see you in the pasture.
Are you sure ?
October 25, 2009 - 18:48 ET by Free StinkerAre you sure ?
→ You did it again!
October 25, 2009 - 18:50 ET by Cool ArrowIt was my turn dang it!
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→ Gee, I'm dum
October 25, 2009 - 18:48 ET by Cool ArrowOn account o' Free's spelling looks zackly like your spelling 'cept without the quotes.
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Free Stinker, If I recall
October 25, 2009 - 19:07 ET by hydrodynDMFree Stinker,
If I recall correctly, the word "protest" in that quote actually meant "affirm" or "declare" in the way that one says "I protest my innocence" as opposed to "object to" which is how most people seem to take it.
Dictionary bits that agree with you
October 25, 2009 - 20:52 ET by VinceP1974-verb (without object)
to make solemn or earnest declaration.
To make an earnest avowal or affirmation.
-verb (with object)
to declare solemnly or earnestly
- noun
a solemn declaration of opinion and usually of disagreement:
→ That's silly
October 25, 2009 - 18:44 ET by Cool ArrowWho the heck ever said "he protesteth too much"?
Now you're making fun of the way people speak? To prove what point?
You openly do what you claim I did?
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trickledownhislegtown - What a flaming doucebag.
October 25, 2009 - 18:58 ET by JWFWay to take a stand big doucheman! Way to take a stand!
If watermelon is a vegtable or a fruit has been debated as long as the terms fruit and vegetable have been around. According to scientific definitions a watermelon is both a fruit and a vegetable. Here's why. source
In the meantime, my Lisa Lampanelli post bears out. We are all laughing at your watermelon joke. Not.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Disgusting!
October 25, 2009 - 18:22 ET by Free StinkerDisgusting!
Free & Cool
October 25, 2009 - 18:32 ET by MrShyYou can have zero class and be disgusting with racial jokes, etc., when you're a liberal. It's really no big deal over there.
But when you're a passionate, concerned right-leaning political commentator on TV? You're simply "over the top".
Okaaaaaaaaaay Lisa Lampanelli.
October 25, 2009 - 17:49 ET by JWFWe will stay on the straight and narrow. Don't want people calling us racists now do we? Not like anyone else other than Lisa Lampanelli here is calling us racists. Right? Lisa "trickletown" Lampanelli.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Help me-Help me-Clarify for me
October 25, 2009 - 23:07 ET by matthewdeanTrickletown:
I would like to ask, if not too much trouble, for some clarification.
If you can help, great. If not, life will go on.
On October 25, 2009 @ 14:35ET, under the heading "Beck", I posted some touchy-feely stuff about, of all people, G. Beck.
I noted that for the most part the comments directed at him were favorable, but that at 13:40ET,
"Trickletown posted in with two sentences and two links, and while the sentences irked me a tad, they were just sentences, and a profile check showed that Trickletown will go after either end of the political spectrum if required.
Actual profile wording is: "I'm an independent thinker who has problems with the wingnuts from both sides of the aisle."
After taking my daily nap (because I am officially an oldretiredfartnow), I came back to the thread and observed some zingers had flown through cyber-space.
I perused this site for a long time before joining up, and I have learned two things for sure:
1. There are some very, very sharp dudes and dudettes on this site whom I would never cross verbal swords with, and:
2. Any charge of racism against any regular poster around here is patently absurd.
Here is where you can help me out, again, if you would be so kind:
Do you indeed have problems with wingnuts from both sides of the aisle, as per your profile; and might I see evidence of that at some future date and time here, or are you -just-a-funnin'- me?
I guess the main reason I bring this up at all is, is that if you had added "LOL" to the end of several of your sentences, then I would suspect you are really username -007memo-, and that name in no way fits Trickletowns stated profile.
At any rate, TT, I'm just kinda ramblin'. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
No harm, no foul, no bad language.
Unless, if by chance you are of the corrupt politician persuasion, wherein the word Beck may well be a curse word.
MD
"I may not agree with what your bumper sticker says, but I will defend to the death your right to stick it." (Unknown)
I like this man already.
October 25, 2009 - 23:30 ET by JWF1. uses his real name - Let me check. Yep. Retired. That means he does not have to worry about getting fired should his liberal boss ever google him.
2. The very sharp dudes and dudettes is part of the reason I joined too. The blog posts are good and you can learn. But unlike other sites, you can learn from the commenters too.
3. Never trust anyone that says they are independent. You may not like Democrats. You may hate them. But at least they get the respect that comes from someone that actually commits.
4. Independent is codeword for troll here. They won't openly admit to being leftists. Yes. They lie. Welcome to our world.
5. Never never never waste more than a few words on a troll. They won't read it. They never do.
6. You like this website. It is a growing conservative website. It is therefor a danger to the left. It must be knocked down and taken out. The left is actively engaged in sending people to do just that. So they come here to spread the truth. Oops. They have not been taught the truth. They have been taught propanganda and lies from...
7. Media Matters among other sites. You will learn real quick that anyone getting information from Media Matters and anyone dumb enough to link to Media Matters is gullible and/or a liar themselves.
8. Welcome to NewsBusters friend.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
***matthewdean.....
October 26, 2009 - 00:09 ET by Trickletown...You ask your questions in a reasonable voice, so I'll do my best to answer.
It's been to my chagrin as of late to see the moderate to leftish voices leave Fox News Channel. FNC, in my mind, is lesser because of it. Jane Hall was on the payroll for 7 years and I always found her perspective interesting. Compound that with the fact that Glenn Beck is not my cup of tea, and there you have it.
You noted on your earlier post that I had posted two sentences and two URL's. That's all it took. That proved to several of the usual suspects around here that I am *not smart, *a troll *worthy of being gang-slammed for my percieved insolance. That's cool, I'm a big boy and I know what I'm getting into around here. I like to have fun too, and the racist jabs were in the spirit of the times. You ever watch "Red Eye" with Greg Gutfeld?
Feel free to track my posts here over the last couple of years. You will see that I became a *troll* only recently when I pointed out I had trouble with G Beck. Draw your own conclusions.
If I don't see you in the future, I'll see you in the pasture.
Questions asked/answered
October 26, 2009 - 00:29 ET by matthewdeanTrickletown:
Questions asked, by me, -AND- answered fairly, by you.
Conversation: quite a concept, no?
Yeah, I watch and enjoy the Gregster.
MD
"I may not agree with what your bumper sticker says, but I will defend to the death your right to stick it." (Unknown)
MD....
October 26, 2009 - 01:06 ET by TrickletownI look forward to your postings.
If I don't see you in the future, I'll see you in the pasture.
I've been accused of being Trickle and return troll Oddjob today
October 26, 2009 - 00:57 ET by 007memoI've been accused of being Trickle and return troll Oddjob today!
I can barely keep up with my 007 persona.
Hate to tell you honey...
October 25, 2009 - 16:03 ET by ChristianRebelBut the truth is scary and over the top.
Beck strikes me as just passionate and a wee bit peeved at the government (what do you know, just like the rest of us) and to some people that's a big no-no.
→ That's a good point
October 25, 2009 - 16:08 ET by Cool ArrowThere are so many Jayson Blairs out there, pulling in a paycheck, assured their work won't be fact-checked unless they report something objectionable to the left.
Mailing in an opinion, as Jane does, (weekly maybe) is much safer and easier than the exhaustive leads Beck and his staff follow every day, to bring us another viewpoint.
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ChristianRebel
October 25, 2009 - 16:20 ET by MrShy"But the truth is scary and over the top."
Exactly. It really is. So many Democrats -- especially the ones at the highest levels of government (the executive branch, majority leader, etc.) -- are indeed truly OVER THE TOP nutjobs and far left progressives/socialists.
So yeah, desperate times call for desperate measures. I'm not a big fan of Beck and his style, and yet, in light of what our enemy is right now and the climate these days, he could be 5 times more rabid and it would be appropriate and necessary in my eyes.
Dear Jane
October 25, 2009 - 17:08 ET by MOONSTRUCKIf Mr. Beck is so over the top and scary, please go on his show and prove him wrong.......waiting.....waiting.....yep, as I figured. You cannot go on and prove him wrong, cuz he is right.
The only way libs can defend this prez is to attack his critics. Not by giving a good argument as to why he or she is wrong. But to attack the person.
Yet another reason I am glad to be on the right side of the tracks!!
Many folk around here agree....
October 25, 2009 - 17:29 ET by Trickletown..if you just disregard the 'goofy, over the top' stuff, and gleen the 'right on' stuff Beck delivers, you'd be onboard with him.
If I don't see you in the future, I'll see you in the pasture.
Or...
October 25, 2009 - 20:04 ET by UnsaneOr you could be like me...not agreeing with him all that much, but acknowledging he has a point...
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
That sounds....
October 26, 2009 - 01:11 ET by Trickletown..reasonable to me.
If I don't see you in the future, I'll see you in the pasture.
I don't mean to be cruel
October 25, 2009 - 20:30 ET by ThoreauDoes anyone know who this lady is? If she's a Constitutional scholar, then I'll care what she thinks about Beck. Otherwise, blow.
Jane Hall was just mad Beck
October 25, 2009 - 20:38 ET by DontTreadOnMeJane Hall was just mad Beck exposed and embarrassed her friend Anita Dunn
The Truth is always scary
October 25, 2009 - 20:45 ET by RR GOPThe Truth is always scary when it goes against what you've either been led to or convinced yourself to believe.
Good luck peddling your Progressive message elsewhere, Comrade.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
She Can't Deal
October 25, 2009 - 21:01 ET by rammingspeedI'm sure Hall is schmoozing up to her liberal soulmates elsewhere in the media, but I also think she's uncomfortable with the fact that Glenn Beck has managed to slash open an artery in the leftist/Obama message. The Democrats have lost their leverage despite their elected majority. They're reeling. Their closing ranks. Hall went home to help stanch the bleeding.
→ Yeah, there's that
October 25, 2009 - 21:22 ET by Cool ArrowAnd for how many years has she plodded through her life as a journalist and never put two dots together?
Beck does it daily and Jane wants to whimper that she's been subjected to the musings of a rodeo clown.
Some bozo can do her job with his eyes closed and she can't stand it.
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Good bye, Jane, adios and
October 26, 2009 - 07:46 ET by misterbee241Good bye, Jane, adios and good luck. And you know the thing about the door. NPR is just waiting for you. You'll be fine and land on your feet. And for the record, this is the first I knew you were on Fox. Didnt know you were there until you left.
And yes, Glenn is the left's boogie man. He's holding the outlaw administration accountable. Evil does not like the light and can not co-exist with it. It's written down - you can check it out.
"I dont need to read a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber."
Walter Brennan, The Colonel, Meet John Doe, 1941
Good for her
October 26, 2009 - 08:06 ET by mamabearGlenn Beck scares me.
And for those of you who want to know why no one proves Glenn Beck wrong, it's because with a few exceptions, he never says anything that is wrong.
It is not what he talks about, it is how he says it. He is very very good at what he does. So when he says that he is AFRAID that Obama has a deep deated hatred for white people, he does it knowing full well that anyone in his audience who is scared of black people will feel validated, and anyone who questions him can be blown off because he didn't say he THOUGHT Obama had a deep seated hatred of white people.
When he says that voices speaking the truth will be "snuffed out," he hasn't actually accused the administration of plotting to assasinate him, but he knows that everyone in his audience who hears "snuffed out" thinks about two things-- candles and MURDER. He wasn't talking about candles.
At all times he is very careful not to lie, and at all times he is skilled at presenting things in the way that causes the most posible fear and mistrust, of the government, of people you disagree with, of the world.
The one place where he's gone too far, and I wish someone WOULD call him on it, is when he claims that Obama is creating a "civilian national-security force that is just as strong, just as powerful as the military." That's just ridiculous. I know people working for the VISTA program. They are helping people weatherize their houses so they save money on heat over the winter. No one is training them to be a national security force. That would be easy to falsify just by profiling the kind of jobs that people are doing as part of the volunteer programs associated with the administration. After all, what could be more American than civic engagement?
Got Czar?
October 26, 2009 - 09:40 ET by CrashMB, you are wrong on so many points. You might try staying away from the KOS and Media Matters. There is no secret code in the english language. When he says, "the truth will be snuffed out" he's speaking of the MSM.* As for "Obama's deep [s]eated hatred." Have you read Obama's book where he actually says that he struggled with this?
"What could be more American than civic engagement?" Truth and Justice.
*You might also take a look at Anita Dunn's admitted strategy for "controlling what gets out." Where was she when Bush needed to keep a secret from the media?
When he says, "the truth
October 26, 2009 - 17:11 ET by mamabearWhen he says, "the truth will be snuffed out" he's speaking of the MSM.*
No, he meant people will be killed. But he was only joking, so no big deal, right? Right. All it takes is a few people out of the millions who listen to him to take him seriously, and he's done harm.
And before anyone starts accusing me of censorship, he can say anything he darn well pleases.
I just find him scary and corrosive.
→ Silly bear
October 26, 2009 - 17:23 ET by Cool ArrowNot a chance he meant those conduits of political disagreement with the White House will be silenced, is there?
mamacrawfish, you're being purposely narrow in your definition because you've once again backed yourself into an ideological corner.
But you're used to it.
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~Hi Christopher Robin!
October 26, 2009 - 17:31 ET by choselife3xMy four year old sends her love.
I explained below why I feel
October 26, 2009 - 20:17 ET by mamabearI explained below why I feel confident that he meant murder and not a lack of communication. Would you like me to repeat it here, or can you just read down the page?
Style over Substance?
October 26, 2009 - 09:36 ET by OneCleverCookieSo what you are saying mamabear, is that you don't disagree with Beck's facts, just his delivery of these facts; is that correct?
For the record, most of what Beck exposes on a daily basis was available pre-election, albeit, not in great detail, but Obama's underlying agenda was known, HOWEVER NO ONE LISTENED! If the electorate had listened to calm, reasonable, and polite discourse we would not have elected this Left Wing Ideologue. Personally, I couldn't care how the message is communicated on the agenda of Obama and his Progressives, just as long as the facts are delivered, and PEOPLE LISTEN to the insanity of this man that is the 44th President, I just hope that the Republic survives to elect a 45th President.
So please Mr. Beck, cry, crow, winch, and contort all you wish just as long as you keep exposing this destructive administration to the Republic.
Btw mamabear, who scares you most, Beck, or Obama?
→ Great mamabear
October 26, 2009 - 09:39 ET by Cool ArrowAt all times he is very careful not to lie
Great point. You draw a stark comparison between Beck and Obama who promised transparency, promised 72 hour internet review before a vote, promised Afghanistan was a "war of necessity" etc. etc.
You're right.
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The one place where he's
October 26, 2009 - 09:49 ET by Dan The Man 2The one place where he's gone too far, and I wish someone WOULD call him on it, is when he claims that Obama is creating a "civilian national-security force that is just as strong, just as powerful as the military."
And this is what Duh VAin One wants and he actually said it in one of his speeches. Dont you believe what Duh Vain One wants to do? He said he wanted to radically change the USA and he is doing it. He also said words have meaning and we believe him. Isnt it time to hibernate, I mean winter is fast approaching?
→ Dan
October 26, 2009 - 09:53 ET by Cool Arrowmamabear is just trying to say she knows when the President is telling the truth and when he's once again, lying out his buttocks.
She's trying to tell us Obama's lies are "nuanced"
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Good for her
October 26, 2009 - 11:46 ET by matthewdean"After all, what could be more American than civic engagement?"
You mean, sorta like "community organizing" w/ACORN?
MD
"I may not agree with what your bumper sticker says, but I will defend to the death your right to stick it." (Unknown)
The problem with liberals
October 26, 2009 - 12:16 ET by fitzfongThe problem with liberals like you is that they jump from point A to point Z without connecting any of the dots in between...then make the spurious claim that points A and Z are directly connected. For example:
So when he says that he is AFRAID that Obama has a deep deated hatred for white people, he does it knowing full well that anyone in his audience who is scared of black people will feel validated, and anyone who questions him can be blown off because he didn't say he THOUGHT Obama had a deep seated hatred of white people.
That is just a dishonest argument on your part. Barack Obama is not "black people", he is the President of the United States and happens to be black...and the operative phrase is "President of the United States", not "happens to be black". People who question his policies, his ideology, his objectives and his statements are not afraid of Obama because he's black, they are afraid of Obama because he seems determined to impose his radical agenda on us (single payer healthcare, cap-and-trade, card check, etc.) even if that means exceeding his authority and running over the will of the people to get what he wants. He will even sink to the level of trying to de-legitmize a news organization because it doesn't fall in lock step with his agenda.
When he says that voices speaking the truth will be "snuffed out," he hasn't actually accused the administration of plotting to assasinate him, but he knows that everyone in his audience who hears "snuffed out" thinks about two things-- candles and MURDER. He wasn't talking about candles.
Gee, mamabear, are you familiar with the term "hyperbole"? Apparently not, because you are engaging in it now. "Snuffed out" means stopped. Period. Your claim that Beck's audience is only capable of conjuring up two interpretations for the expression "snuffed out" is hilariously disingenuous.
Oh, and sorry if I don't buy your anecdotal argument on VISTA. Frankly, you're just not that credible.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
He followed the "snuffed
October 26, 2009 - 17:06 ET by mamabearHe followed the "snuffed out" comment by saying that he wanted to make sure everyone knows that his brakes are fine and he's not suicidal. Still think he wasn't trying to imply he might be killed?
I didn't say that my anecdote falsified his claims about volunteer programs, I said that his claims could be easily falsified by going out and collecting some very simple evidence. I know of one data point.
One of the most useful things my father ever told me was this-- inside every pointed joke is a kernel of truth. People who say inflammatory things and then insist that you ignore them because they are joking, are saying what they believe on a deeper, darker level. Just a little bit, but it's there. I have found that to be distressingly true.
Still think he wasn't
October 26, 2009 - 17:28 ET by fitzfongStill think he wasn't trying to imply he might be killed?
First of all, I'm not inclined to accept a direct quote on your say-so. Link it. Secondly, even if he made the brakes comment, that's a joke...and you and his audience know that. Besides, the left is always creating straw man assassins on the right as a tactic to neutralize rational dissent against this President.
I didn't say that my anecdote falsified his claims about volunteer programs, I said that his claims could be easily falsified by going out and collecting some very simple evidence.
Anecdotally, maybe. But anecdotally, his claims can easily be supported, as well.
One of the most useful things my father ever told me was this-- inside every pointed joke is a kernel of truth.
You may have found your father's advice useful, but your misuse of that advice is your problem. Your projected suggestion that Beck's rhetoric is, directly or indirectly, potentially triggering violence from his audience is glaringly dishonest and weak. You're using the same disingenuous tactic that Obama uses when referring to "creating or saving" jobs...you both lack evidence to support your position, but you attempt to put the other side on the defensive by having them prove a negative. Sorry, that doesn't work here.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
I heard it on the radio.
October 26, 2009 - 17:41 ET by mamabearI heard it on the radio. Is there someplace that has searchable transcripts of his radio show?
So let's here your anecdote, or anyone's, about people in volunteer programs through Americorp, City Year, or the others being trained as a civilian national security force.
And I don't think he's triggering violence, I think he's triggering fear. Sometimes that leads to violence, but it almost always leads to divisiveness and poor decision making.
→ mamabear
October 26, 2009 - 17:46 ET by Cool ArrowOn the radio I heard "The words of the prophets are written on subway walls". I didn't really believe it, but it sounded good at the time.
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I believe it and I believe
October 26, 2009 - 17:51 ET by Dan The Man 2I believe it and I believe Jer when he said he heard it also. One my moma was in the looney bin and I talked to this man who said he was Jesus and I believed him also ... until he was out of sight.
I don't know. I don't
October 26, 2009 - 18:28 ET by fitzfongI don't know. I don't typically watch or listen to Beck. You'll have to figure out how to find that information on your own.
So let's here your anecdote, or anyone's, about people in volunteer programs through Americorp, City Year, or the others being trained as a civilian national security force.
here here here
Hmm. You've got the Obama Justice Department failing to prosecute misuse of funds by an agent of Americorp (instead choosing to punish the whistle-blower), failing to prosecute the members of the Black Panthers who made veiled threats of violence at the polling station in Philadelphia and a protected voter fraud organization whose primary objective is to preserve the power of the current Administration by whatever means necessary (an organization that is also attempting to use the courts to damage the whistle-blowers). Implied violence, voter intimidation and legal harassment of individuals who seek to hold criminals to account...all on behalf of the President and his political cronies? Sounds like a civilian national security force to me.
And I don't think he's triggering violence, I think he's triggering fear. Sometimes that leads to violence, but it almost always leads to divisiveness and poor decision making.
Divisiveness? What's wrong with divisiveness? Obama and his apologists are every bit as divisive as you accuse Glenn Beck of being (and more). When you fail to march in lock step with an Administration, you can be accused of being "divisive". Only Obama has the cowardice to lodge that charge, however. In fact, relative to the American people, Obama and his mob are very divisive. As for divisiveness and poor decision making, exactly what are cap-and-trade, single-payer healthcare and Card Check? Unity and great decision making? Sorry, I don't want these garbage "solutions" imposed on me. If Beck is triggering fear to get people to wake up and see what this Administration is attempting to do regarding these and other crucial economic issues, bring on the fear. He's absolutely right.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
Why am I the one being
October 26, 2009 - 20:16 ET by mamabearWhy am I the one being accused of jumping to conclusions here? You have one example of Americorp funds being used for washing personal cars, a completely unrelated group not being prosecuted, and ACORN and that equals a civilian national security force as powerful as the military? That's insane!
Policies that everyone doesn't agree with are divisive, but that is not their purpose. Beck's rhetoric is designed to make people mistrust each other. That is not actually Obama's goal, though it may have that effect.
I mistrust anyone who appreciates demagoguery for it's own sake, which Beck clearly does.
→ mamacrawfish
October 26, 2009 - 20:23 ET by Cool ArrowHere's some local loser talking about that National Security Force.
Would you say that's a "policy everyone doesn't agree with"?
I'll bet there are lots of people who have a problem with this marxist tripe.
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Here's the quote that
October 26, 2009 - 20:36 ET by mamabearHere's the quote that immediately precedes that soundbite:
"We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, and to be there for our military families. And
we're going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been
shuttered and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our
diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
He's talking about the Foreign Service and the PeaceCorps-- civilian organizations that work overseas and have an important national security role.
He is not talking about armies of jackbooted CityYear kids marching on domestic soil.
The quote has been deliberately misrepresented as something that ordinary Americans should be AFRAID of, which makes no sense if you actually understand what he's talking about.
→ mamabear
October 26, 2009 - 20:45 ET by Cool ArrowLet me get this straight. Obama is going to get veterans to help find jobs for other vets overseas?
I thought part of the reason for becoming a "vet" was so you could come home to the States. Now you're telling me these Vets need to find jobs for vets overseas?
Sorry, but you're reading something into this statement that is not there.
If he says he wants a "Civilian National Security Force" he's definitely not talking about Camaroon.
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Do I have to spell it out
October 26, 2009 - 20:56 ET by mamabearDo I have to spell it out for you? I included the first sentence for context. The whole speech was about volunteerism and service and how important it is. I thought support for veterans would put a smile on your face, but I was clearly wrong.
The Foreign Service works in foreign places. I wouldn't think that would be difficult to figure out. So does the PeaceCorps. That is the civilian national security force, our diplomatic workers that play an important role in how we are perceived by the rest of the world, friends and enemies alike. They are civilians, and they are important to national security. Obama wants to expand them.
If you think something more sinister than that is going on, provide some evidence.
→ That's right bear!
October 26, 2009 - 21:08 ET by Cool ArrowYou nailed it, but glossed over it.
"The Foreign Service works in foreign places."
Now just where do you think the Civilian National Security Force would function?
Camaroon?
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Civilian does not mean
October 26, 2009 - 21:18 ET by mamabearCivilian does not mean domestic, is that why you are so confused? The Foreign Service IS a civilian organization involved in national security. It is a civilian national security force. Get it?
I have to go to bed, I'll try to think of different ways to spell it out for you tomorrow ;)
→ I get it mamabear
October 26, 2009 - 21:23 ET by Cool ArrowHow silly of me.
"National" means "Foreign" in your world. It's all so clear now!
So what he's really saying is that he wants a Civilian Foreign Security Force?
Even Hillary Clinton would say your interpretation requires the willful suspension of disbelief!
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The operant phrase is
October 27, 2009 - 18:00 ET by mamabearThe operant phrase is "national security. The adjective "national" modifies the noun "security," not the noun "force."
I'm trying to think of some other way to make this clear. I have this surreal feeling that I've been transported to some alternate reality where "national security" no longer refers to the security of our nation and instead refers to domestic guards of some sort.
→ I've got it mamabear
October 27, 2009 - 18:08 ET by Cool ArrowListening to Nancy Pelosi, it hit me!
You can call it the National Consumer Security Force.
But according to your view of it, it's at least 2.6 million freeloaders foisted on the World at large, seeking what mischief they may enter into.
And don't be silly. "National" and "Security" are both adjectives modifying the noun, "Force".
Weren't you listening in 4th grade?
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I guess I'm just sad that
October 27, 2009 - 21:03 ET by mamabearI guess I'm just sad that you think so poorly of the men and women who serve our country overseas in anything other than a military uniform.
There are a lot of people out there doing good work, and yes, they are targetted by our enemies as JWF was quick to point out. Apparently doing a dangerous job for your country isn't enough to earn respect from some conservatives here. You have to do it with a gun.
Oh do shut up idiot.
October 26, 2009 - 21:12 ET by JWFYou are as stupid as he was when he made that idiotic statement. Rock friggin' stupid. And then you think we will accord you respect?
What consulate ever in the history of mankind had anything to do with national security objectives?
consulate - the office, term of office, or jurisdiction of a consul.
consol - 2 : an official appointed by a government to reside in a foreign country to represent the commercial interests of citizens of the appointing country
Commercial interests IDIOT!
You see anything there that will assist in achieving national security objectives? Huh, IDIOT?
The mission of the Peace Corps includes three goals, which are providing technical assistance, helping people outside the United States understand the culture of the United States, and helping United States people understand the culture of other countries.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Yes, helping people understand the culture of other countries really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really helps us achieve national security objectives.
You are too stupid to post anywhere idiot. Give it up. Go back to being Obama's boot licker. At least it keeps you occupied.
Oh, oh oh, I am mamabear. He is not talking about jackboots. Oh no. He is talking about spending half a trillion dollars a year (defense department equivalent) for the funcional equivalent of Jack Freakin' Squat.
Idiot.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
→ JWF
October 26, 2009 - 21:26 ET by Cool ArrowCan't you just see us sending our "Civilian National Security Force" into Venezuela to keep the peace?
Mamabear was hibernating during reading comprehension.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Wow. You should really
October 26, 2009 - 21:33 ET by mamabearWow. You should really not be so upset by me. Cool manages to keep his cool, why can't you?
The whole point of that section of the speech was that national security is not just about the military. It is also about diplomacy. That is what the foreign service does, they are diplomats. As such, they affect our commercial interests and they implement American foreign policy overseas. Whether they do that job well affects our relations with other countries and other cultures. That affects our national security.
As an example, when China uses it's economic clout to undermine US power when we try to oppose Russia politically, that makes us less secure. Are we going to solve that problem militarily? Probably not. That's where diplomats in the foreign service are working to try and increase our national security by improving relations with other powerful nations. I do hope that if Obama increases the resources at their disposal, he will not get Jack Freakin' Squat in return.
You can disagree about whether more expenditures are warranted, but it's silly to try and argue that consulates don't affect national security. Heck, where do you think all of our CIA agents work their day jobs?!
I said shut up.
October 26, 2009 - 21:46 ET by JWFI said shut up. We are not at war nor is there any talk of being close to being at war with China or Russia. And we are doing that already spending 5 billion dollars a year now.
So spending even more money is gonna get us even more not at war or going to even less talk of being less close to being at war with China or Russia? Huh? Idiot.
You don't think before you open your boot licking mouth. Shut up.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
→ Intended consequences
October 26, 2009 - 21:54 ET by Cool ArrowCan you imagine mamabear's dream coming true. She claims Obama is going to send a force of (entitlement minded) civilians out into various places throughout the world and she doesn't even give a thought to the myriad of sticky incidents they willundoubtedly involve themselves in.
Talk about giving the International drug trade a shot in the arm (so to speak)? Imagine just the mayhem the Chicago/La/Oakland/Miami contingency would wreak.
I don't think mamabear has done much thinking on the subject.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Don't forget Mr. Arrow.
October 26, 2009 - 22:03 ET by JWFWhat is the Number One target after our military guys outside the the United States proper?
United States Embassies and Consulates and the personnel of the U.S Foreign Service. That is part of the reason they are so expensive to maintain. So mamabear the bootlicker and Obama the Idiot in Chief want to put the State Department on Steriods by upping the budget 20 times and putting 20 times the number of targets, humanoid and otherwise out there.
Obama and mambear - giving out christmas presents to islamic terrorists. Merry Christmas terrorists!
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
→ Tru Dat Vet
October 26, 2009 - 22:23 ET by Cool Arrowmamaobamabear wants as many as 2.5 million unarmed, official government sitting ducks.
Can you imagine how glorious Obama's apology speeches will be every time a duck gets picked off?
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
JWF
October 26, 2009 - 22:43 ET by MrShyI like the part where you said "I said shut up." :p
It's awful that us relatively mannered, patient, adult-like conservies are simply at our wits end now after less than a year of SIC (Socialist-in-Chief) dismantling our country and dingbat libs like mamaboob STILL whistling past the graveyard, a complete brainwashed zombie finding make-believe faults and peddling make-believe solutions.
I love my dogs.
October 26, 2009 - 22:49 ET by JWFI spoil them and let them sit on me and spend way too much money making sure they stay healthy and safe. But at the end of the day, I treat them like dogs.
Stupid people need to be treated like stupid people too.
Wits end is correct sir.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
In most discussions,
October 27, 2009 - 21:00 ET by mamabearIn most discussions, insults come out when people run out of ideas. They are a last resort.
Since you begin your conversations with insults, I am left wondering if you are just naturally an unusually rude person, or if you never have any ideas to begin with.
Even without insults, we
October 27, 2009 - 21:05 ET by Free StinkerEven without insults, we immediately realized you showed up with no ideas.
Just sayin'
She claims Obama is going
October 27, 2009 - 20:54 ET by mamabearShe claims Obama is going to send a force of (entitlement minded)
civilians out into various places throughout the world and she doesn't
even give a thought to the myriad of sticky incidents they
willundoubtedly involve themselves in.
This is hilarious. You do know that we already HAVE a foreign service, right? You can look it up on the intarweb and everything. It's out there, in the world, involving itself repeatedly in all of the many sticky incidents that our military can't solve for us.
Perhaps you'd prefer we didn't have diplomats?
Hey bootlicker mamabear idiot.
October 26, 2009 - 21:33 ET by JWFThere is a reason we close consulates and not reopen them. THEY ARE EXPENSIVE.
wikipedia: there are 265 United States Embassies, Consulates and Diplomatic Missions around the world.
Budget for Diplomatic and Consular Programs - 5.364 Billion dollars.
That is 20 Million dollars per building every single year. Why don't you and the idiot in the White House spend even more money we don't have.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
You have one example of
October 26, 2009 - 20:38 ET by fitzfongYou have one example of Americorp funds being used for washing personal cars, a completely unrelated group not being prosecuted, and ACORN and that equals a civilian national security force as powerful as the military? That's insane!
Actually, I have three criminal organizations in a mutual protection racket with the current Administration...a quid pro quo whereby these organizations commit crimes to advance and preserve the power of this President...in exchange, the President, through the Justice Department protects these criminal organizations from rightful prosecution (and harasses those who might stand in their way...with the full force of the government) so they can continue their criminal acts on his behalf. A corruption that feeds upon itself. And all this while the "President" is doing his best to shamefully weaken our military. You bet he's attempting to create a civilian force every bit as powerful as the military. Now, where's your evidence?
Beck's rhetoric is designed to make people mistrust each other. That is not actually Obama's goal, though it may have that effect.
Oh, is that so? So then why do Obama and his sock puppets continue the Alinsky tradition of attempting to demonize his political opponents? The insurance companies, Wall Street, Fox News, Jack Ryan, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Inspector General Walpin, General McChrystal and countless others have been viciously targeted by this empty suit and his goons...all to neutralize their rightful dissent. Your man Obama is no better than a common thug.
I mistrust anyone who appreciates demagoguery for it's own sake, which Beck clearly does.
Yet you trust Barack Obama. Yeah, you're credible.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
Leftist silliness
October 26, 2009 - 20:50 ET by UnsanePolicies that everyone doesn't agree with are divisive, but that is not their purpose. Really. I do not get this constant, ceaseless whine of how divisiveness is bad. Unsane is divisive. That is because Unsane does not expect people to agree with him 100% of the time. Many of the posters here are divisive because we are far from marching in the right cadence.
I hope that we ARE divisive because that means that there is some diversity in thought out there somewhere. I am not about to become a Happy Little Socialist just because the White House is occupied by a Socialist. I am not going to abandon my principles because of who is in the White House, Congress, or wherever.
Beck's rhetoric is designed to make people mistrust each other. Not even he has that kind of power. Beck is no Svengali. But then, Leftists don't have much use for the concept of freewill.
I mistrust anyone who appreciates demagoguery for it's own sake, which Beck clearly does. If you don't like people who appreciate demagoguery for its own sake, then why are you a Leftist? The Left is FULL of demagoguery. To wit: your God, His Majesty The Shahinshah, accusing doctors of performing unnecessary operations in order to make a buck, in order to stir up the population against them. I'd be willing to bet your silence in regards to that demagoguery was deafening - IF you weren't wildly cheering Him.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Divisive is not the same as
October 27, 2009 - 21:10 ET by mamabearDivisive is not the same as diverse. It is possible to disagree and still work together or at least respect each other.
All politicians engage in a certain amount of demagoguery, but you can hardly claim the left has a monopoly. You don't think Bush played people's fears and passions to get what he wanted? I would hope that in most cases it is seen as a necessary evil. Beck, on the other hand, seems to revel in it. Certainly, it makes him an awful lot of money.
BAD MONEY!!!!!
October 27, 2009 - 21:15 ET by BlondeBad, bad money.
Mama...you haven't changed one iota from the Health Care thread.
Once a liberal, always a liberal.
How's that road to your parents' house working out for you?
And, while you ponder that, kindly defend Bawney Fwank. We need to see a good defence of that idiocy here. You are the liberal.....it's up to you to provide the proof.
Cheers!
I hope he fails, too.
Proof of what? The fact
October 30, 2009 - 21:40 ET by mamabearProof of what?
The fact that I am a liberal doesn't actually mean I have to defend anything YOU associate with liberalism.
If you have something you want me to "prove" maybe you should tell me what it is! :)
Here it is... I couldn't
October 26, 2009 - 20:26 ET by mamabearHere it is... I couldn't find the whole radio segment in one place, but if you check the dates on these two transcripts, both of which come from Beck sources, you'll see that they come from the same show. They actually came almost right after one another. I could only stand to listen to him for a few minutes, so there wasn't much time between them.
Part 1
Part 2
That might not be good enough for you, but it seems to be the best I can do. I can't find a site that has straight transcripts from his radio broadcasts, just the pieces that he wants to republish.
I found nothing
October 26, 2009 - 21:18 ET by fitzfongI found nothing objectionable in either part. I'd mock you for making a mountain out of a molehill, but there isn't even a molehill.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
OK Guys
October 26, 2009 - 21:49 ET by cajun2I have been following your posts. I have enjoyed the swordplay and the pedantics. But I have a point to share. Glenn Beck may be a clownish type. I may even be a "fear mongering" victim. But
Beck cannot raise my taxes.
Beck cannot penalize me for having private insurance.
Beck cannot raise my electricity rates.
Beck cannot ration my health care.(I am one of those seniors that refuses to die gracefully and cheaply)
Beck cannot create a Civilian Defense Force.
Beck cannot legislate us into bankrupcy.
Beck cannot establish policy that weakens our defense.
This administration can and is pushing to do all of the above. Doing so with the assistance of advisors all enamered with socialist dictatorships as their philosophical guides as evidenced by their own words and actions. Now, that is "fear mongering". Please continue.
First came "Civic Engagement"...
October 26, 2009 - 17:06 ET by Trickletown...then came the Red Menace. Don't be taken in by the threats of
1.Neighborhood Crime Watch.
2.Candy Stripers
3.Meals on Wheels
4.Block Moms
5.Volunteer Fire Dept's
6.Cub Scouts
The list goes on and on, so do your own research, stand up and follow Glenn Beck!
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If I don't see you in the future, I'll see you in the pasture.
First came---
October 26, 2009 - 21:59 ET by matthewdeanTT- I like your list. The irony is rampant, the sarcasm supreme.
If we cannot appreciate a little humor, we are doomed.
My counterpoint:
First came Health Care Reform (but the unwashed masses were not sufficiently conned, er, I mean swayed; soooooo)---then came Health Care "Insurance" Reform. Yeah that'll work, since the dummies, I mean taxpayers, are too stupid to see it's the same shi* with a different name.
Whaddya mean yer worried about gettin' the Public Option through somehow.
Jeez. We call it a Co-op, or an Opt-out, hell, we could even call it a Cop-out because these simple minded fools, I mean our fellow citizens, just don't get it.
Whats that you say, more Americans don't like our plan for them, than do? My point exactly. The hoi-polloi don't know whats good for them, so its a darn good thing that WE do.
We must ram this through by talking up how critical this is for our economy.
Gentlemen, we MUST protect our phony-baloney jobs.
(Courtesy of Mel Brooks-"Blazing Saddles." Love that line.)
-sarcnowoff-
Don't be taken in by the lies of:
1. Lotus-Totus-posprez
2. Harry/Nancy
3. Chris/Barney
4. Rahm/David
5. Jesse/Al
6. Valerie/Anita
or any Lib/Dem, and the list goes on&on&on&on---.
So stand up, stretch, listen to Glenn Beck, and then do your own research. If in the end you see any truth in what he puts forth, good.
If not, then that is fine, too.
MD
"I may not agree with what your bumper sticker says, but I will defend to the death your right to stick it."" (Unknown)
MD....
October 26, 2009 - 23:05 ET by TrickletownExcellent. Humor. Do your own research. I'm down wit dat.
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If I don't see you in the future, I'll see you in the pasture.
Research and Humor---
October 26, 2009 - 23:45 ET by matthewdeanTT:
Cool.
MD
"I may not agree with what your bumper sticker says, but I will defend to the death your right to stick it." (Unknown)
The Chicago Way
October 26, 2009 - 08:09 ET by CrashThe sad thing to be sure is that the left uses the Alinsky-ish "attack the person, not the message"* to advance their load of bull. It's not sad that they do it, it's sad that they don't get "called out"** by the MSM for doing it.
*RULE 12: "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Alinksy, another creep from Chicago.
**When Rep. Joe Wilson called out "you lie" after being called out as a lier by the president in his plea towards socialism.
See ya later Jane!
October 26, 2009 - 08:28 ET by bpjamMostly, Fox viewers just listened to Jane and thought - lamestream media.
She is the quintessential voice of the media from our parents generation where they decide what we should hear, think and believe and told us so every night at 6pm.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
And hopefully the journalism school you teach at will suffer the same fate as the media outlets you send your little wanna-be pinko babies to work at.
Glenn is waaaay over the
October 26, 2009 - 09:29 ET by balboaGlenn is waaaay over the top. He's a cartoon.
→ That's right, bal
October 26, 2009 - 09:36 ET by Cool ArrowFortunately most Americans understand cartoons.
He's every bit as entertaining as Jon Stewart, but exponentially more factual.
I think you nailed it.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
But Beck doesn't present
October 26, 2009 - 09:39 ET by balboaBut Beck doesn't present himself as a cartoon. He presents himself as actually relevant.
→ Yes, he does
October 26, 2009 - 09:45 ET by Cool ArrowYou're watching a different Beck than I am.
I'll gladly admit he's not the same cartoon character Olbermann and Matthews are, those two lean more to the homo-erotica hentai genre, but they're cartoon characters in the same sense you refer.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
But Beck doesn't present
October 26, 2009 - 09:53 ET by Dan The Man 2But Beck doesn't present himself as a cartoon. He presents himself as actually relevant.
Bal is what Beck says not relevant? I believ he was pretty much spot on with ACORN and many other subjects. Pogo, Mallard Filmore and other cartoons are very relvant and so is Beck.
Beck at times is hard to swallow and his sthick does wear on you but as Jesus said be all things to all people, meaning some actually get what Beck is saying because they relate to his sthick.
Bal,
October 26, 2009 - 10:06 ET by Candance MooreI'm not trying to be rude, but it seems to me that you don't watch Beck that much. He makes a point of portraying himself as a "former rodeo clown" with no college education. He routinely reminds his audience that he's an opinionated pundit who is paid to offer commentary.
You cannot make the case that someone who uses Barbie dolls to explain ACORN and once pretended to kill a frog presents himself as anything but a cartoon for news junkies.
And Cool is absolutely right: you're always the first to blast some dopey segment of The Daily Show or SNL when you feel it's relevant to the conversation.
Lastly, I'd rather watch a "cartoon" on Fox News than to watch Charlie Gibson explain why he didn't know about ACORN or watch ABC News tell me cheeseburgers are killing the planet.
Candance, I "blast" Daily
October 26, 2009 - 19:11 ET by balboaCandance,
I "blast" Daily show clips because I think they're funny and occasionally have a good point.
Beck has good points, I'm sure, but he has just enough bizarre, paranoid statements to blur anything salient.
→ Pointedly nebulous
October 26, 2009 - 21:00 ET by Cool ArrowWow, that marshmallow opinion really struck to the heart of the issue.
But we've got a President who says Doctors are into chopping off feet and cutting out tonsils unnecessarily.
Yeah, bal. That Beck is just soooo bizarre.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
→ No fair.
October 26, 2009 - 21:02 ET by Cool ArrowYou win again bal.
There I got all specific and you're still into how you feeeeel about Beck.
You win again.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
balboa buddy...
October 26, 2009 - 21:10 ET by MightyMouthBeck is either on or off. The crying makes me turn the channel to Lou Dobbs whatever! But you have to admit... Friday's show with the bat was spot on!
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Beck
October 26, 2009 - 10:36 ET by dvdaughtryHe makes a stand, supports it, and then shares it.
You make a sensational statement, followed with a poor analogy.
Please, share one point he makes that is waaaay over the top, and then support why you think that way.
Let the funnies begin.
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
→ Good luck Daughtry
October 26, 2009 - 10:41 ET by Cool Arrow"waaaay over the top" is code for "Beck can't possibly hold the Administration accountable for its own words"
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
I know Cool, but I am just
October 26, 2009 - 10:49 ET by dvdaughtryI know Cool, but I am just tired of people saying that Beck, Rush, Ann, et al are over the top and not be able to refute one thing they say.
I stop these stupid conversations while the Lib or Libatarian is running their mouth, about how on the fringe they are, by asking for one example of an issue of dissagreement.
Of course the next thing out of the "enlightened" is:
"They just are."
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
Journalism suffers with all the liberal lies
October 26, 2009 - 09:41 ET by kevinm13Jane Hall provided a liberal slant against James Pinkerton's careful conservative views on Fox News Watch. It is scary how young minds are being taught by Jane and her much more liberal teaching brethren about journalism. She left of her own volition (or was fired) and blaming Glenn Beck for anything other than telling the truth is lying and insincere.
Bernie Goldberg has even
October 26, 2009 - 09:44 ET by InfidelphiaBernie Goldberg has even criticized Beck on O'Reilly's show, so what's the big deal here? Could it be that Beck has captured the nation's hunger for truth in a way that the MSM and Jane and Bernie and all the other media pundits cannot even fathom or completely accept?
One of Becks best was last Friday...
October 26, 2009 - 09:51 ET by MightyMouthWith the Capone bat... I actually cut a business call a little short to watch... Good stuff Glen!
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Look guys and gals
October 26, 2009 - 09:47 ET by MightyMouthThis video was pretty compelling and honest (except for the duma$$ huffington guy) right?
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Geeee, a full blown lefty disagrees with others who aren't and
October 26, 2009 - 11:08 ET by hetookuazydeparts to friendlier grounds, where everybody there, agrees with her and supports her point of view!! A microcosm of the left in general and Marxists in particular. Now if Fox would just agree the left is right, and stop telling both sides or the story, we could all get along!
The truth hurts the left in so many ways. It hurts their ears and their brains and it really hurts the "educational efforts" employed with the masses. It's so unfair to confuse the masses with "other ideas and concepts". In the past, it's even been necessary ot "eliminate" many persons who have been expose to such counter revolutuionary ideas and concepts. I'm sure that they hope to "avoid" that here...
thanks! mr.beck
October 26, 2009 - 11:18 ET by foolnomorestay at it, they are starting to feel the pain of the truth? to bad.
Another case of c.y.a.!!
October 26, 2009 - 12:20 ET by Patriot IINothing like playing both ends towards the middle for personal advantages.........this type is worst that the blatant libs in my opinion!!
Ms Jane Hall-one question-
October 26, 2009 - 18:15 ET by JIMMY1660Prove wrong anything that Glenn Beck has said on his program. I think you can not.How about the words and actions of BHO most inner circle.
these folks should be in Leavenworth not in the White House.
you were ill informed on Fox, sore thumb.
bye bye
BHO- THE PROGRESSIVE PIRATE