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Ted Rall has created some truly offensive cartoons and articles during his career. However, this might be one of the most disgraceful statements made by a media representative since this war began (h/t Dan Gainor):

In one fell swoop, Rall has offended our military, their families, religion, patriotism, our educational system, our president, and our very way of life.

Any newspaper that carries this piece of detritus should be ashamed of itself.

Forgive me, but I need to wash my hands and keyboard of this filth.

 


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Yeah ... I'm real danger clos

Yeah ... I'm real danger close to launching a multi warhead F - Bomb right now ... Danger close!

Stepping away from my computer ...

Burn in Hell, Ted Rall.

Re: I'm real danger close

You aren't close to having a clue about this immoral war.

Hey moron (aka piniella)

If you removed your head from your "sixth piont of contact" you might get a clue.

I was a U.S. Soldier for 32 years and served in Desert Storm, Bosnia, and Operation Iraqi Freedom. My MOS was 96B40; an  Intelligence Analyst specializing previously in Warsaw Pact, and subsequently Middle Eastern, battlefield doctrine, weapons, tactics, equipment, and geopolitical aspects. In other words, when I speak I know what I'm talking about.

We know how tough it is for you moonbats suffering from Bush Derangemant Syndrome and your weekly trips to the therapist.  And we're well aware of the fact that you don't have the guts to stand up to Islamofascist tyrants who want to transform the whole planet into a Caliphate.

None of you would actually live under the system/s you advocate, you just troll on sites like this just to throw the usual turd in the punchbowl; the perfuntory spiel: "Bush lied" , "It's all about the oil"....blah blah blah.... ad nauseaum.

Just a few things for you to wrap your leftwing mind around:

Afghanistan is never mentioned in anti-war commentaries.  For the life of me, I can’t figure that out.  It’s probably because our success in pounding the Taliban and al Qaeda into the sand in Kandahar doesn’t make for good press.
And what about our invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan don’t you get?  Where do you think we should fight back? Hell, they’re just two of the countries I would have leveled on 12 September 2001.  We were attacked by Islamic thugs supported not only by Iraq and Afghanistan but throughout the Middle East and they are two good places to start retaliation.  No matter where we struck back, al Qaeda would be there.

Had I been in office, I would have made William Tecumseh Sherman look like a Boy Scout.  Four countries would have been carpet-bombed into asphalt parking lots: Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Syria.  That is how you fight a war. But I was a Soldier, not a diplomat or a Lorain city commissioner.

Let me make this simple:
The invasion of Afghanistan was prompted by its use as the major operating base for al Qaeda.
The invasion of Iraq was instigated by 12 years of nose thumbing on the part of a WMD-wielding terrorist-supporting megalomaniac.  U.N. Resolution 1441 gave Hussein an ultimatum and us the specific authority to force compliance, by any necessary means.  That included military force.  As I said, I was an Intelligence Analyst and cannot discuss classified material, but there are plenty of open source publications available for your perusal. In case you didn’t know, we found a substantial amount of hidden WMD along with documents and recordings in which Saddam Hussein emphatically stated his intention to continue WMD development and deception.  

You must have been in a coma when these were discovered:
1) 1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium
In a joint Energy and Defense Department operation, 1.77 metric tons of low-enriched uranium and approximately 1000 highly radioactive sources were secured from Iraq's former nuclear research facility, packaged and then airlifted on June 23, the press statement said.
"This operation was a major achievement for the Bush Administration's goal to keep potentially dangerous nuclear materials out of the hands of terrorists," Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham said in the statement. "It also puts this material out of reach for countries that may seek to develop their own nuclear weapons." Source:[http://www.usembassy-dhaka.org/state/StatePD/pre1jul08_04.html]

2) 1,500 gallons of chemical weapons agents
U.S. troops raiding a warehouse in the northern city of Mosul uncovered a suspected chemical weapons factory containing 1,500 gallons of chemicals believed destined for attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces and civilians, military officials said Saturday.  Source: [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/13/AR2005081300530.html]

3) 17 chemical warheads containing cyclosarin (a nerve agent five times more deadly than sarin gas) "Laboratory tests showed the presence in them of cyclosarin, a very toxic gas, five times stronger than sarin and five times more durable," Bieniek told Poland's TVN24 at the force's Camp Babylon headquarters. "If these warheads, which were still usable, were used on a military base like Camp Babylon, they would have caused unforeseeable damage."   Source: [http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/07/02/international1018EDT0516.DTL

4) Over 1,000 radioactive materials in powdered form meant for dispersal over populated areas: "Along with 1.77 tons of enriched uranium, about 1,000 "highly radioactive sources" were also removed. The material was taken from a former nuclear research facility on 23 June, after being packaged by 20 experts from the US Energy Department's secret laboratories." Source: [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3872201.stm]

5) Roadside bombs loaded with mustard and "conventional" sarin gas, assembled in binary chemical projectiles for maximum potency   Source: [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120137,00.html]

And this bombshell:
“Tapes Reveal Hussein’s plans”:  An excerpt: “There also exists a quote from the dictator himself, who ordered the tapings to keep a record of his inner-sanctum discussions, that Mr. Tierney (Bill Tierney, a former Army warrant officer and Arabic speaker who was translating for the FBI tapes unearthed in Iraq after the invasion) thinks shows Saddam planned to use a proxy to attack the United States.”   “Terrorism is coming ... with the Americans," Saddam said. "With the Americans, two years ago, not a long while ago, with the English I believe, there was a campaign ... with one of them, that in the future there would be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction." Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060313-123146-7380r.htm

Geez, and to think “Chemical Ali” slaughtered thousands of Kurds with “non-existent” WMDs.

President Bush has repeatedly stated that the war against Islamofascism will not be easy; it will not come without sacrifice.  The problem is a great number of people like nice, neat, little sound bite wars.  Well, wouldn’t we all?  In reality, war is a brutal, often necessary endeavor. 

No matter how badly some people salivate over the possibility of a “civil war” in Iraq, it ain’t happening.  Most of the agitators are coming in from Syria and Iran, with the bulk of the violence taking place in specific areas around Baghdad.  The rest of the 26 million Iraqis are too busy getting on with their lives to jump on the “civil war” bandwagon.  

This is what the GWOT in Iraq and Afghanistan has accomplished:
Elimination of at least two of the ME terrorist operating bases and establishing influence and the spread of freedom right smack dab in the middle of an Islamofascist region. Iraq and Afghanistan are making great progress.  For the first time in their existence, they have an opportunity to enjoy the freedoms we take for granted; they vote, run for office, run independent businesses, and speak through a free press.  They are being prepared for the day when our mission is complete and theirs begins.  They now have a representative Parliament and a military that is being trained to provide for the defense of an independent Iraq.  You don’t hear about the good things, because, as the saying goes,” if it bleeds, it leads.” 

By the way: one of the most important campaigns of this war is being waged as we speak. It’s called “Operation Arrowhead”. The United States Army and Iraqi troops are gaining significant ground and kicking al Qaeda’s ass in places like Baqubah. I guess in your view, that’s not as important as voting to cut off our funding and sniveling about all the reasons you think we shouldn’t have picked one of the terrorist/WMD havens as a target for retaliation.

Another ploy by critics is to assign the “Vietnam” mantra to every war it disagrees with.  No matter how badly they want it to be another “Vietnam” it isn’t happening, and their historical amnesia kicks in every time this war is debated.

Here’s an easy scenario:
In spite of ominous indicators and turmoil that was contained on someone else’s turf, we remained complacent.
An enemy sends planes to bomb and crash into U.S. territory. The attack kills roughly 3000 Americans.
War is declared and retaliation begins against the perpetrators and their allies.
Sound familiar?
It happened 7 December 1941.
There’s your comparison.
It took almost 300,000 dead and over 600,000 wounded American troops to win a four year war in Europe, the Pacific, Africa, and parts of Asia. Can you imagine a U.S. politician, journalist, or teacher declaring that “it was unwinnable”, and voting for a fund cut-off?

You didn’t expect the bad guys to be very happy at the fact that we brought the war they started, back to them, did you? Of course they’re going to be pissed. Of course they’re going to fight back, not just with weapons but through media exploitation. 9/11 was the Pearl Harbor of the 21st Century and all the critics are capable of is spouting nonsense and being al Qaeda apologists.
In case you still don’t get it, they want to kill us.  They made that pretty clear on 11 September 2001.
If you don’t understand that, maybe they didn’t hit close enough to your own back yard.

Okay, sweetpea, you can go back to playing with Rosie Palm and her five sisters....

SFCMAC - Thank you!

Very nice!

You had a few links in there that I somehow missed on my Iraqi WMD & Terror List (v.4.1) Got to update that thing again . . . :-\

 

_______
Fred Thompson and Ann Coulter walk into a bar. The bar is instantly destroyed because that much awesome cannot be contained in one build

You're welcome!

BTW: The reference to "Lorain city commissioner" refers to our local council in Lorain, Ohio who did one of those "resolutions to end the war" crap. I e-mailed them as well.  So far, not a peep out of them.

SFCMAC, Thank You, for posting I enjoy reading, real stuff ,

To bad the shock and awe didn't cover all electricity production in the 4 countries you mentioned. That all we need to do; just keep the moslems away from electricity.. any detectable electromagnetic field BOOM. The war would have lasted 5 days, with a bit of clean up.

They want the 7 th century, heck give it to them.

Is Sudan a threat?  Let them yell from the back of an ox cart.

No need to spend all that money on boat loads of bombs to carpet bomb'em.

This is what we get for treating them like EQUALS, really dumb..

 

Reagan VS 0bama

Yes, SFCMAC

Thank you, twice.

First, for your service, and second for your excellent take down of the moonbat.  We love information filled posts like yours.

<edit>  Very wierd....this thread is like two years old....I thought pinella sounded familiar...and old, banned troll.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Blonde, I'm baffled how on earth did i end up here?

Wierd, oh well I still feel the same, then as now.

Reagan VS 0bama

UPC

Ted Rall blog....perhaps there was a link and you read SFCMAC's excellent post, and felt compelled to respond, as I did....it was an excellent treatise.

Cheers.....it seems we haven't changed our feelings regarding the trollsters.  At all.  :)

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Outanding post, SFCMAC

I'm guessing pinheadia here now has the ability to defecate sideways.

Nice going.

Help Fred defeat the RINOs, along with the Hitllary-Obama Axis, & win the White House in '08.

I agree...outstanding post and very informative

Thanks for all the additional links. I had heard of some this, but most was new.

btw, did troll piniella ever say why the Iraq War is immoral?

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.
Thompson/Rice

SFCMAC

Thanks

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"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Thomas Jefferson

SFCMAC

Thanks

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"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Thomas Jefferson

pintrolla

pintrolla

pinheadia.Help Fred defeat

pinheadia.

Help Fred defeat the RINOs, along with the Hitllary-Obama Axis, & win the White House in '08.

Page not found--rather shy, e

Page not found--rather shy, eh?  Two words for you. 

Liberalism is a convenient lie.

Publishing Rall's garbage is

Publishing Rall's garbage is just another example of the elitist media who do not have a clue.  These people know the enemy--their enemy is anyone who actually believe in freedom.  It is too old fashioned for their tastes.  Some day there is going to be an explosion and the leftists will lose.

Liberalism is a convenient lie.

notice the lack of Christian

notice the lack of Christian / military riots

I hereby proclaim Ted and his fellow moonbats officially irrelevant:)...

Gay haters unite!

It's a sure bet, attack whi

It's a sure bet, attack white male Christian soldiers to get your trashy cartoons printed in the MSM.

Of course, everyone knows it's only minorities who are really in the military, but you can't show them in a bad light.

D


I don't support our liberals or their mission.

Liberals love to say that t

Liberals love to say that the military is made up disproportionately of minorities, because of poverty, poor education, and lack of jobs (three things which are actually depicted in this cartoon). It's one thing to SAY that, but even Ted Rall is not stupid enough to actually juxtapose a picture of a black soldier next to those words.

In truth, members of the mi

In truth, members of the military are generally better educated than the average civilian. Certainly the average grunt is sharper and has many more useful skills than Ted Rall. And it goes up and down the chain of command. I suppose he's not aware that Gen Petraeus, for instance, is a West Point graduate and holds a PhD from Princeton.

I really get tired of liberal stereotypes, falsehoods, misconceptions, general ignorance and stupidity, and their downright mean-spiritedness.

If you look at the statisti

If you look at the statistics. The United States Armed Forces is over 70% white if I remember correctly, though I believe it's higher then that.

If &quot;nappy-headed hoes&

If "nappy-headed hoes" was enough to get Imus fired...

~~~

"We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it."-- Marge Simpson

This guy should be fired on t

This guy should be fired on the spot, but he won't, he will be seen as a brave journalist who has the courage to tell it like it is. It makes me sick to my stomach!

 He has really offended my family as my nephew is serving and he is a kind, wonderful young man who loves his Country. He is willing to sacrifice his life for all of us including this moron who wrote this cartoon. It is a sad day in America.

Re: your nephew

If your nephew is in Iraq, he's not sacrificing anything for America.

pintrolla

pintrolla

shitheadia Help Fred defea

shitheadia

Help Fred defeat the RINOs, along with the Hitllary-Obama Axis, & win the White House in '08.

you are scum....... Last time

you are scum....... Last time I checked I was in the US Army (United States of America) so I do belive I am sacrificing something for America, YOU TELL THAT TO MY 2 KIDS AND MY WIFE. I have been in Iraq since Sept 06.......

Texthank-you for your sacrifi

Tex

thank-you for your sacrifice, (you need not address that troll again it is gone) 

"The more I study science, the more I believe in God."     Einstein

Tex

Tex,

This animal has been banned. As such, you needn't concern yourself with his disgraceful views.

Furthermore, it has been established that his goal was to infuriate members here. Let's not allow him a victory by paying him any more mind.

Thank you for your service. A grateful nation salutes you.   ns

Thank you for your service an

Thank you for your service and for stopping the horrible things Saddam Hussein was doing to his own people.

Great for someone who hides b

Great for someone who hides behind the people he insults.

Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge will be shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods. Albert Einstein

As someone in this forum site

As someone in this forum site has suggested in the recent past ... Let this idiot put on the uniform and join those who fight, and die, to protect his right to create such trash.

I normally find it uncalled f

I normally find it uncalled for ... However, I'll make an exception this time:

May he receive so much hate mail and death threats that he pisses the bed at night.

Yeah, Rall should kiss the muddy, blood stained boots of our military ... If Rall were a Muslim depicting Islamo Fascists this way his head would be swinging from some hooded basturd's hand right now.

Forgive me, but I need to was

Forgive me, but I need to wash my hands and keyboard of this filth.

Exactly.  But can you imagine doing that then realizing, you're still Ted Rall.

You've seen the spoof. Now see the spoof of the spoof on YouTube: The Clintpranos: Bada Bong

You all may have guessed that

You all may have guessed that I am somewhat a movie buff, as I find fiction reflected in reality at times. 

The thing that comes to my mind right this moment is a line from the movie ALIENS (the second Alien movie).

The heroine Ripley says to the corporate company hack after he tried to sabotage Ripley and the Marines she was allied with against the alien beasts:

"You know Burke, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see them f*cking each other over for a g*ddamn percentage! ..."

Yeah, fits perfectly with Ted Rall.

Come to think of it, it fits for the dems and RINOs in Congress, and the LMSM in this country.

May I suggest...

That Ted Rall be embedded with a Marine company...

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic

Re: embedding

Like the one at Haditha or the one that was pulled from Afghanistan for going on a shooting spree?

pintrolla

pintrolla

I was unaware that we had a

I was unaware that we had any talentless cartoonist embedded with our armed forces.

Have the liberals thought w

Have the liberals thought which has been more empowering to the enemy:

1. The steeley resolve to stand in the front lines and repel the "invaders"

2. To convince the enemy the cost (money, life, reputation, etc...) of waging war is too high

Week after week I read on here at how the liberal and leftist media and flock of sheep around the US is all too eager to help out the latter in the name of advancing their relatively insignificant political agendas.

The media doesn't mention the fact the President has a better approval rating than the Congress, who a lot will argue was swept into office by the People for the only purpose of getting results, not body counts. Yet, leftists people stand by the do-nothing democrats. Only in America will you get people holding onto their political party so tenaciously that they refuse to accept their party isn't budging.

And to think, Mr. Rall--you c

And to think, Mr. Rall--you can enjoy the freedom to make money mocking those who give their lives protecting your freedom. 

Hey, in your next cartoon, you can draw those of us who are Christians taking to the streets in protest of your cartoons, beheading any cartoonists we can get our hands on, pronouncing death threats against you...

Oh, that's right.  Your attempt to equate the truth of Christianity with the cult of Islam was as weak as everything else in your little doodle.

We'll be praying for you, Mr. Rall, despite your hatred of us.

--Mike

www.thebrattonreport.com

Re: truth

"the truth of Christianity"

There are two incompatible Creation stories in Genesis. In one, Man is created before other creatures, in the other he is created last.

Which one is the truth?

Do you really care or are you

Do you really care or are you just continuing with your serial trolling here?

check Genesis pintrolla your

check Genesis pintrolla your assertion is patently false

"The more I study science, the more I believe in God."     Einstein

But he's a liberal, and che

But he's a liberal, and checking the book would require reading skills. You are most unfair to force him to prove his claims.

Think of his self-esteem. Have mercy.

Do it for the children.

Re: patently false

GENESIS I

19 And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.

20 And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across
the firmament of the heavens." 21 So God created the great sea monsters
and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm,
according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind.
And God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, "Be
fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds
multiply on the earth." 23 And there was evening and there was morning,
a fifth day.

24 And God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds:
cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their
kinds." And it was so. 25 And God made the beasts of the earth
according to their kinds and the cattle according to their kinds, and
everything that creeps upon the ground according to its kind. And God
saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, "Let us make man in
our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish
of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and
over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the
earth." 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he
created him; male and female he created them. 28

But in the second version, Man is created before the other life forms:

GENESIS II
4
These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were
created. In the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5
when no plant of the field was yet in the earth and no herb of the
field had yet sprung up--for the LORD God had not caused it to rain
upon the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6 but a mist
went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground-- 7 then
the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his
nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

8 And the LORD God planted a garden in Eden,
in the east; and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9 And out of
the ground the LORD God made to grow every tree that is pleasant to the
sight and good for food, the tree of life also in the midst of the
garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

18 Then
the LORD God said, "It is not good that the man should be alone; I will
make him a helper fit for him." 19 So out of the ground the LORD God
formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air
, and
brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever
the man called every living creature, that was its name. 20 The man
gave names to all cattle, and to the birds of the air, and to every
beast of the field; but for the man there was not found a helper fit
for him.

reGen 2&quot;And&quot; is not

reGen 2

"And" is not a word depicting chronology. 

try again

BOTG graduated from high school in 1973 and BOTG was born and raised in RI.

"The more I study science, the more I believe in God."     Einstein

Relevance

Unless otherwise noted, the order of mention gives the chronology.

steve jyou are as stupid as y

steve j

you are as stupid as you sound, like you make up the rules yeah right

so by your logic i graduated before i was born     idiot

"The more I study science, the more I believe in God."     Einstein

}}----> Bonnie and Clyde

So Bonnie recruited Clyde into robbing banks?

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

pinella   'page not found'

pinella   'page not found'

thank you editor in the web

I'm not usually a fan of re

I'm not usually a fan of revoking privelages in any site, but pinhead's "one and done" strategy was painfully amateur - even for a troll. Not that NB needs my confirmation, but he was given ample opportunity to bring more to the table and failed miserably. At least now he'll have more time to accuse us of censorship over on DailyCouscous.

Mulepinhead was banned after

Mule

pinhead was banned after i linked to his blog posting which showed he was in violation of the terms of service, since he admitted there that he was intentionally trolling here.

the link goes to his latest lie

scroll down to the cartoon to see his trolling admission

Good afternoon, botg.  So th

Good afternoon, botg.  So the chucklehead was banned because he was trolling rather than discussing?

Hi DahliaI don't know the rea

Hi Dahlia

I don't know the reason for certain you'd have to ask NB, he did say some crap in the face of some patriots who were posting from Iraq.  But it did happen soon after i posted his link to the other site.

"The more I study science, the more I believe in God."     Einstein

Dahlia

D,

I'm not 100 percent sure of the final reason. However, I think that once it was exposed at HIS website that he was coming here to infuriate NBers, that was a pretty strong signal that discussion wasn't the point for this miscreant.  ns

NoelPerhaps he succeeded in o

Noel

Perhaps he succeeded in one thing, his comments seem to be increasing over at his site.

B

B,

I wouldn't know. The last time I visited that site was last evening, and I have no interest in giving him one more read.

This is a liberal antagonist who came here looking to stir up trouble. Yet, I would wager this cretin complains about the caustic political tone in the nation while ignoring how much a part of it he is.  ns 

sorry double

sorry double

Excellent point. 

Excellent point. 

Noelyou are correct of course

Noel

you are correct of course, his stuff is not worth reading, in fact there are only two posts there that have any comments and those comments are not shall we say agreeable to his positions.  All the rest of his posts:  0 comments.

Thank-you for any help in having him removed

B

B,

Actually, I didn't do anything. After I received your PM, as I was researching his comments, and visiting his website, I went to peruse his account information, and found it had been deleted.

To date, I haven't banned anybody. I've made suggestions, and blocked one poster who was spamming pornographic websites. However, up to now, I have left the final decision to folks more high up.  ns

N

N

I figured that much from your previous posts, i PMd you because i thought you could contact someone with that ability.  I thought of a PM to Matt but would he get it?  I saw that you were on the board so i contacted you.

Is there always a moniter on the site and if so how can they be alerted?

"The more I study science, the more I believe in God."     Einstein

there are only two posts ther

there are only two posts there that have any comments

Oh dear.  How are we going to dialogue that way??

dahlia,That doesn't surprise

dahlia,

That doesn't surprise me.  The only reason he came here was to cause trouble, and entice us to look at his stupid website, which no one visits.  He is probably a greasy looking looser that spends his time in mommy's basement banging away on his keyboard, amongst other things.  That is why I've said before, I dont bother with these idiots anymore.  No matter how many facts you shove in their face, they still scream your not answering their question.  Useless, absolutely useless

Too often, that is too true,

Too often, that is too true, Begrunt.

entice us to look at his stup

entice us to look at his stupid website

Yes, interesting that he apparently looked to NewsBusters to increase the traffic to his blog.

Mule,Actually, I would like

Mule,

Actually, I would like to think his plug being pulled was due to his personal insult to Bobby, who is currently serving our country over in Iraq.

As a libertarian, I do not like to see anyone silenced, regardless of their POV, and that includes the person that is the subject of Noel's article. However, when it comes to insulting, to their face, an American soldier that is currently in harms way, then I feel that NB was entirely justified by banning the individual in question.

Besides, whoever did pull this idiot's plug probably prevented me from being banned myself, as I was about to unload what we refer to around here as the "whole can of whoop ass" on the b*stard. And then some.

Trust me, you haven't seen the "F" word used in any manner even approaching the interesting ways that I was about to employ it.

Help Fred defeat the RINOs, along with the Hitllary-Obama Axis, & win the White House in '08.

Dave,Glad to see you weren'

Dave,

Glad to see you weren't forced into that hand. I doubt his exile was due to any one comment, rather his entire body of work, if you will. Just as Rosie played the antagonist-to-victim card, as will our dearly departed pinhead.

For the record, I think the NB Board of Directors does a good job of encouraging dissenting dialogue and allows the limits to be pushed further than most sites. Lord knows how quickly the discussions will grow stale in here if it's nothing but a bunch of Conservatives and Libertarians gathered around the campfire.

speakin of stale

will grow stale in here if it's nothing but a bunch of Conservatives and Libertarians gathered around the campfire.

How about some more beans Mr Taggert?

No thanks Slim, I believe I

No thanks Slim, I believe I've had enough.

Piniella is long gone, but I'

Piniella is long gone, but I'll still comment.  Only someone who truly hates The Almighty could take different mentions of events and somehow come up with a "contradiction."  Really had to twist himself into a pretzel to come up with that one.   

Biblical scholar Pamela Tam

Biblical scholar Pamela Tamarkin Reis proposes that Genesis 1 and 2 can be seen as either one painting with two panels or as two separate paintings. Both are appropriate. She draws the parallel with the ancient story-telling technique that Kurosawa employed in the movie Rashomon. In that movie, the same series of events are told through the eyes of four different people, and of course realistically there are contradictions in the different narratives. And you could make sense out of that movie either as four different stories or as four people having four different realistic narratives of the same story.

Accordingly, Ms. Reis analyzes Genesis 1 as God's narrative and Genesis 2 as man's narrative. In Genesis 1, the style of narration is very orderly and logical, proceeding from basics like heaven and earth, through plants and animals to man and woman. And everything is "good" or "very good." Ms. Reis suggests that the story-teller has a bit of whimsy in noting how perfect everything is from God's view.

In contrast, in Genesis 2, man tells the story from his own self-centeredness. Man is created first, of course. And there are a few flaws. Man is alone, without a woman. Whereas, in Genesis 1, the phrase is "heaven and earth" repeated several times, in Genesis 2, God makes "earth and heaven." And another thing, in Genesis 2, there is that troubling notice that "there was no one to till the ground." That sounds like a lot of work, an unending task--very unlike the completeness of Genesis 1.

Even the words used in Genesis 1 suggest serenity, the godly plane of existence. For example, in Genesis 1, the word for God is Elohim, the generic and distant God, while God's name in Genesis 2 is the personal and very sacred YHWH Elohim, the Lord of God.

From all of these clues, Ms. Reis suggests that Genesis 1 and 2 make sense either way, just as for Kurosawa's Rashomon. They make sense as two different stories. Or they make sense as two narratives of the same story from different personal perspectives: that of God and that of man.

~~~

"We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it."-- Marge Simpson

who wrote what

Ms. Tamarkin is on to something but her knowledge is lacking.

The Bible with Sources Revealed
By Richard Elliot Friedman

HarperSanFrancisco, 2003

There are 10 source texts for the Torah: J, E, P, RJE, R, DTN, DTR1, DTR2, Genesis 14, Other Independent Texts.

J
was composed during the period (922-722 BC) when the Promised Land was
divided into two kingdoms, Israel in the north and Judah in the south.
J was written by someone in Judah.

E was written about the same time but was written by a priest living in Israel.

In
722 BC, the Assyrians destroyed the north kingdom, thus there was no
longer a separation between the two Kingdoms. An editor/historian
combined J & E into a text known as Redactor of J and E, or RJE for
short.

P was also written by a priest as an alternative to J
& E, not long after J & E were composed, probably during the
time of Hezekiah, 715-687 BC.

The D sources make up most of
Deuteronomy. The law code part, chapters 12-26, are known as DTN. DTR
contains the sources For chapters 1-11, 27-30, 32-33, reports of the
last acts Of Moses and part of other books (Joshua, Judges, 1 & 2
Samuel and 1 & 2 Kings). DTR contains sources that are as old as J
& E but was composed during the reign of Josiah, around 622 BC.
This version is known as DTR1. A later version, written after the
destruction of the southern kingdom in 587 BC, is slightly longer and
is known as DTR2.

All of the above sources were put together to form the first five books by an editor known as the Redactor or R for short.

You have copies of these?&quo

You have copies of these?

"The more I study science, the more I believe in God."     Einstein

Of course, only someone who n

Of course, only someone who never studied the Hebrew Scriptures could make an ignorant statement like that. The second passage DOES NOT describe a new creation. It merely elaborates upon the making of creatures mentioned in 1:25. For example, what they would be called. Further reference.

Where have you been?  It's a

Where have you been?  It's about time, Superman!  KICK SOME ASS!

Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar. 

}}----> Kafir

Isn't Kafir Arabic for infidel?

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Yes.  He uses the name as a

Yes.  He uses the name as a badge of honor, I think.  He is a faithful Jew. And one heck of a poster!

Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar. 

Hmmm... me thinks piniella is

Hmmm... me thinks piniella is too limiting in his translations because the NIV says:

(Genesis 2:19) Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name.

The implication being that creatures were made - THEN man. Why don't you recite the original hebrew with translations and notes and then you MIGHT have a point.

Be sure to get your daily Fred Thompson Fact!

I shoot a (useless, factless)

I shoot a (useless, factless) arrow into the air, where it lands I know not where--Piniella

Scout,Yep....seems the M.O. o

Scout,

Yep....seems the M.O. of this turdling little troll is ready, fire, aim!

If Ted Rall would ever come f

If Ted Rall would ever come face-to-face with a soldier, he would piss his pants and crumple into the fetal position, crying like a little baby.

Teddy is just a typical lib

Teddy is just a typical liberal.....hates God, America, the Military, the Boy Scouts. I'm not surprised.......I guess his mommy didn't give him enough attention...wwwwaaaahhhhhhhhh

Maybe his daddy knew he was a weenie when he was a boy.

Poor Teeeedddy

you forgot one: hates himself

you forgot one: hates himself

Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar. 

PROFILE OF SEWER CARTOONIST

PROFILE OF SEWER CARTOONIST

(DRAWING 1)
SNEERING, ACNE-FACED KNOW ALL

MALE

(DRAWING 2)
"I'm gonna make it up"

WILLINGNESS TO LIE FOR YOUR CAUSE

(DRAWING 3)
"Anyone who disagrees with me is a tool of fascist corporate America and deserves to be suppressed and silenced”

QUASI-RELIGIOUS FERVOR

(DRAWING 4)
“Gotta blame Bush for 9/11”

POOR EDUCATION AT LIBERAL ARTS COLLEGE

(DRAWING 5)
“Global warming, Bush lied, inside job, kill CheneyHaliburton, impeach, WMD, big oil, Valerie Plame, Scooter Libby, Jews fault, yada yada yada”

BLIND OBEDIENCE

(DRAWING 6)
"Can ya believe it? I gets a million a year for this shit.”

WEALTH

(DRAWING 7)
“My dream is a career in Hollywood as an A-List screenwriter”

BELIEF IN THE ‘AFTER-ALL-YOU-CAN-GET

(DRAWING 8)
“If we were just nice to the islamo-terrorists and dialogued and showed them our love they wouldn’t want to kill us. ”

IMMATURITY

You've seen the spoof. Now see the spoof of the spoof on YouTube: The Clintpranos: Bada Bong

^^^You, sir, win the thread!~

^^^

You, sir, win the thread!

~~~

"We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it."-- Marge Simpson

That very kind Tom! Appreciat

That very kind Tom! Appreciate it....

But I'd award the thread to our visiting friend Bobby just back from Iraq. Thanks Bobby.

You've seen the spoof. Now see the spoof of the spoof on YouTube: The Clintpranos: Bada Bong

Re: fictional character, fictional ideas

Jack,

I thought we were winning in Iraq?

We never lost a battle.  The

We never lost a battle.  The media and traitors like you, who hate America, want defeat and prop up terrorists as sympathetic characters.   They'd be first to cut your head off, though, given the chance.

Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar. 

Re: lies

Jack the cartoon character posts:

WILLINGNESS TO LIE FOR YOUR CAUSE

EXAMPLES:

"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." - Dick Cheney, Aug. 26, 2002

Rumsfeld: We know they have weapons of mass destruction. We know they have active programs. There isn't any debate about it. 9/26/02 http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2002/t09262002_t0926sd.html

pintrolla

Your are very mean to allow

Your are very mean to allow pint-size-rollover to be exposed to the true words of his masters. You may cause severe damage to his self-esteem. You should be ashamed of yourself.

EDUCATION

POOR EDUCATION AT LIBERAL ARTS COLLEGE

HERE'S A MORON WHO WENT TO CORNELL:

We have no idea what kind of ethnic strife might appear in the future, although as I have noted, it has not been the history of Iraq's past.

PAUL WOLFOWITZ, FEBRUARY 27, 2003*

*At that time, Wolfowitz was the Deputy Secretary of Defense

pintrolla what's with the sho

pintrolla what's with the shouting?

botg -- is that guy a weird

botg -- is that guy a weirdo or what?

Why do these guys always have minds like mad woman's shit, that is: all over the place.

Lib***ls and leftists in general all seem to have brains which ceased to mature after the age of thirteen.

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Ted Rall's latest...

Ted Rall is only cartoonist in America who's drawings make me want to take a shower.

still no denunciation from Hillary?

Any denunciation by Hillary yet?

Obama?

Silky Pony?

No?

It's still early I guess.

And of course this would be c

And of course this would be completely untouched, unchallenged, and not threatened by the Fairness Doctrine ...

Those Republicans sweating to head off the FD should bring this piece of dung to the floor.

A poster on Michelle Malkin's site called Rall a dung beetle.

Works for me.

Dung beetles do a very import

Dung beetles do a very important service and are contributors to their environment.  In Rall's case, the opposite is true.

Haters of America: You are welcome to leave and live in one of your 'paradises', such as France or Cuba. 

Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar. 

Noel, I will give you a mont

Noel, I will give you a months pay for just 10 minutes alone in a room with teddy boy. Just 10 minutes. Can you arrange that? And no witnesses, please. I have a few things I would like to discuss with this communist, anti military, anti American whale dropping.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

bass -You may have to stand i

bass -

You may have to stand in line.  I believe Pat Dollard and his Marine chums have first dibs.

BTW, Noel, I sent this off to Pat this a.m. and he linked to yunz on his site.

Its OK Drill, I would be glad

Its OK Drill, I would be glad to wait. I just wanna twist the knife, once.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Drill

Drill,

I saw. Thanks.  ns

&quot;He slipped on a bar of

"He slipped on a bar of soap.  I tried to help, but he just kept getting up and falling down.  It was the craziest thing I ever saw."

I could still make the 1,200lb club, but I'm a little older than I'd like to admit.  So, I would graciously give my 10 minutes to a Marine (as long as he promised to give me a full account of each second). 

I would graciously give my 10

I would graciously give my 10 minutes to a Marine (as long as he promised to give me a full account of each second). 

Would video do for ya?

While preserving the moment i

While preserving the moment in film might be satisfying on some level, some things are best left to the grey area.  So, I'd settle for a personal, first-hand account.

The Enemy Within

I will personally purchase this low life a ticket to Zimbabwe or Anglo, so he can/will experience first hand, living in one of the many turd-world s!!!holes run by despots and warlords, with total poverty, starvation, multiple diseases,  endemic corruption, 40 years life expetency, no drinkable water, electriticty-sometimes or no electriticy for days, poor sewage or no sewage systems, constant diarrhea, bullet holes in all buildings, food making you sick,  you WILL get recurent malaria, hospitials and medical care-very scarry.

From personal experience, I have lived-in and worked all over the world, on every  continent except Antarctica, in the last 30 years, as an exploration geologist, including the two countries above.

The one-way airline ticket will include Rall, denouncing his American citizenship, consification of US passport at the country of entry, no money in his pocket, with only clothes on his back.  Now he will have the opportunity to draw cartoons for the "local news paper", denouncing the despots in either Angloa or Zimbabwe, attempting to make money.  He will find himself in jail and/or probably excuted.

Cheers

      

with only clothes on his bac

with only clothes on his back

Awww! Come on, Hawthorne! Have a heart.  Let him have his crayons too.

I am currently serving in Ira

I am currently serving in Iraq. I look at this site when I have completed my mission for the day on my "downtime". It is a shame that a cartoonist can just shake a crayon at what we soldiers are doing here and make fun of what we believe in. I believe in GOD, I believe in country. If that takes me out of the "mainstream", so be it. Many good men and women have died and have been wounded for what they believe. I would dare say he would not show this dripple to us to our face. 

Bobby Indeed he would not sho

Bobby

Indeed he would not show this to your face.

Thank you for your service

"The more I study science, the more I believe in God."     Einstein

Thank you for your reply botg

Thank you for your reply botg. I thank all of the soldiers for standing together against this entire onslaught of people who have no common sense about what is going on here. When the Prez said (and he is being called a liar for it) "that the people who are killing innocent Iraqis now are the same ones who attacked on 9/11" he was 100% correct. I have seen the barbarism of these people. They have the same mind set as those did on that terrible day. And these weak ass, whiny people who sit in the anchor's chair in the MSM, and so called expert critics, have no clue of what kind of damage they are doing to the effort. They are showing us weak when us that are fighting know we are not. I AM SICK OF IT!!!!!!!!!! 

We are with you

We are with you

and i don't believe you are out of the mainstream, it's just that the leftists ideologes hold the TV cameras

Our prayers are with you

They may as well be calling y

They may as well be calling you a "baby-killer" at this point.  Makes me wonder why I haven't heard that yet.   

They keep pussyfooting around with it as if they don't want to appear like they don't support the troops.

-PJ

"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07 

NOPE, NOT EVEN CLOSE

that the people who are killing innocent Iraqis now are the same ones who attacked on 9/11" he was 100% correct.

NO, PRES. FREDO WAS WRONG AGAIN BUT HE JUST CAN'T STOP LYING ABOUT IRAQ.

pintrollayou know better than

pintrolla

you know better than someone who is there?

knowledge


YES, especially that commenter.

Prove it, troll.

Prove it, troll.

Response from Piniella.......

Response from Piniella........cue crickets..........

Quite right, Scout....Another

Quite right, Scout....

Another drive by.  Sheesh!

The only thing worse than a t

The only thing worse than a troll is a troll without ammo.

Scout,What is worse still i

Scout,

What is worse still is a troll without a brain.

Help Fred defeat the RINOs, along with the Hitllary-Obama Axis, & win the White House in '08.

pintrolla, to say you know mo

pintrolla, to say you know more about a situation than someone who has direct knowledge is absurd

"The more I study science, the more I believe in God."     Einstein

this is posted at pintrollas

this is posted at pintrollas blog

I think it is pretty much on the mark but the Newsbusters freakshows don't. I'm going to have a little fun by leaving some comm

(scroll down to the cartoon)

Well, Bruce,That kind of viol

Well, Bruce,

That kind of violates the terms of use, don't you think?

Anyone else for the banning of this little turdling troll?

can you say buh bye troll?

can you say buh bye troll?

Anyone else for the banning

Anyone else for the banning of this little turdling troll?

(Raising hand in the affirmative and trying to draw the attention of the entire class here):

Ooh, ooh, ooh, me, me, me!

How's that?

Help Fred defeat the RINOs, along with the Hitllary-Obama Axis, & win the White House in '08.

shitheadia,A video came out

shitheadia,

A video came out today that supposedly suggests your hero Osama may still be alive, and, given the fact that he has been hiding in caves for some time, may be in serious need of a wax-job (for those of you who attended government school, that means a Lewinsky).

If you really hurry, you just may catch that last flight out to Pakistan, or whatever *stan that bastard is currently residing in.

Help Fred defeat the RINOs, along with the Hitllary-Obama Axis, & win the White House in '08.

BobbyFirst, thank you for you

Bobby

First, thank you for your service.

You might enjoy this video....an AIT graduation.  The speech is absolutely amazing, and perfectly pegs the idiots like Rall.

"Latte biscotti people"....Ted Rall is their poster boy.

Bobby -God bless you, keep yo

Bobby -

God bless you, keep you safe, and return you home victorious.  I love ya!

You bring this cartoon to the attention of those serving around you and let them know THIS IS NOT THE MAINSTREAM in this country.  This is the rantings of a BDS sufferer.  I daresay Mr. Rall just might have a hell of a media fight ahead of him come Monday when the conservative radio talkers get back on.

Bobby Jersey, the real Amer

Bobby Jersey, the real America salutes you and your fellow soldiers, those who deride you are clearly ill-informed and/or brainwashed and know not their history.

Thanks to all who serve, served, and will serve.

D


I don't support our liberals or their mission.

Re; doing

Bobby writes " It is a shame that a cartoonist can just shake a crayon at what we soldiers are doing here..."

WHAT are you doing there, sides having the Iraqi police and soldiers plant IEDs to KILL you?

rants

If you were relevant enough and she still alive, Tokyo Rose would be proud.  But as it is, you are irrelevant.

Hey pin,I realize that someon

Hey pin,

I realize that someone who cares about nothing would not understand what it is I am saying. I would bet that you have never fought for something, whether you wanted to or not, because you thought it was right. Until you face your fears, and come out of the little shell of a life you hide behind your computer, then you will never know. When the murderous bastards that WE are fighting show up at your front door, you would want the Chrisian, fighting patriotic person be there to protect you. T

We are truly grateful for y

We are truly grateful for you service, Bobby. It's great to see soldiers pop in NB so we can cut down on the degrees of separation between here and Iraq. I realize that downtime is precious, but feel free to stop by any chance you get. In the meantime, if there is anything I can do to make your stay in Iraq a little more pleasant, please do not hesitate to ask. Take care and keep up the great work.

Wish I could strap his butt t

Wish I could strap his butt to a cruise missle and launch him into Pakistan.

I am an Army retiree that vol

I am an Army retiree that volunteered for recall to active duty.  Currently serving with Special Forces in Iraq.

You are letting Ted Rall raise your blood pressure for nothing.  He should be pitied.  Can you imagine what a miserable human being he must be to create such caricatures?

Anyone unwilling to die for any cause can never be free.  The military definitely does not want him.

If Mr. Rall is such a genius and wants to be a tough guy, let him draw anti-Mohammed cartoons and publish those.  But he doesn’t have the gonads to draw something that could actually get his head cut off.

CWR -Our blood pressure is up

CWR -

Our blood pressure is up for yunz guys.  We here at home are watching your backs in this war.  We refuse to let them do to you what they did to our beloved Vietnam troops ...

Be safe.

We got your back. ; ~)

p.s.

I second the Mohammad cartoon thing ... But Rall is on their side, so no chance in that.

Thank you all for your kind w

Thank you all for your kind words. I have shown the cartoon to a few of my "battle's", and they are as upset as I am. Thank you all for your support and to CWR... always check your 6. Right?

When the job is done, I can't

When the job is done, I can't wait for you to come back to set the record straight with these guys like Rall.  I'm so upset right now, I'm shaking. 

-PJ

"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07 

Re: We refuse to let them do to you what they did to our beloved

You never said a word when Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz publicly ridiculed Gen. Shinseki when he told Congress that we'd need almost 400,000 troops.

Here, here, CrossWise!  Ted

Here, here, CrossWise!  Ted is not brave enough to draw anti-Mohammed cartoons.  He doesn't want Europe and the rest of the Muslim world against him.  They just might slice off his head!  Much easier to poke a middle-finger at Americans and count on support amongst the Hollywood glitterati and MSM.

Missing In Action

I couldn't help but notice "Patriotism" was missing in action from Teddy's piece(o)(s).

Not that I'm questioning Rall's patriotism....oh, no.....that might be considered way over the top.

This will surely make a liber

This will surely make a liberal salivate, and  be nominated for the nobel peace prize.

Okay, my NB pals.  We have v

Okay, my NB pals.  We have vented on this maggot crap all morning and into the afternoon.

Ready for that deep, cleansing breath to move on and regain our teflon shield?

Take the few moments involved to breathe this in ... and allow your chests to swell with pride:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbOcJ6kqJAA

Now, can I get an AMEN!!!??!!

Hoorah! G-d bless them all ... They can have MY seat in Heaven!

Drill,  Blonde linked this a

Drill,  Blonde linked this above about an hour ago a good link

"The more I study science, the more I believe in God."     Einstein

YOY!  LOL!!  Worth repeatin

YOY!  LOL!!  Worth repeating!

TED RALL

Yes Ted I am Male, my job is to make my enemies die for there cause, I am religious, I have a BS from Texas State University, I obey my leadership (I am a Soldier), I am poor because I decided to leave the USAF reserves after 17 years, my civilian job as a Probation Officer to join the Active Duty Army at 38 to support the war effort, I hope there is life after death, I do not belive I am immatue at 40. Well I am typing this from Iraq (been here since Sept 06, will not be home until Jan 08) and do not appreciate people like Ted Rall. I am honored to serve with and amazed everday by the young 18-25 year old Soldiers (male and females) and the jobs they do. I am trying my best not to get angry at Ted Rall, it people like him who contiue to provide aid and confort to our enemies. My fellow Soldiers and I are not the ones losing this war it is people (if you can call him that) like Ted Rall and the constant propaganda they put out........

Hey, texasadams -Maybe yunz g

Hey, texasadams -

Maybe yunz guys in the military can now create a new cuss word that outweighs the "F" one ... Ted Rall.

Be safe. Be victorious.

Re: My fellow Soldiers and I are not the ones losing this war

Here I agree with you. The Neo-Cons are the real losers here and America is better off for it.

pintrolla,he's talking about

pintrolla,

he's talking about you

Loser

Ted Rall is a known loser. He is neither funny nor insightful.

It is a shame that he demeans our military. He obviously knows nothing about faith and he certainly does not understand respect.

Most imporantly, Ted does not understand:

Freedom isn't Free !!!

[To our military, thank you for your service in spite of ingrates like Ted Rall !!!]

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.
Thompson/Rice

Re: Freedom isn't Free !!!

Iraq has nothing to do with our freedom but then again, Rall's cartoon is about people like you.

piniella...

I think piniella is Ted Rall.

Idiot...the people Rall dep

Idiot...the people Rall depicts do not exist except in your twisted little anemic brain cell... Happy Trails...

existence

They most certainly do exist and you can prove that to yourself by listening to the fools who call in to wingnut radio.

pintrolla

pintrolla

piniella,It seems to me you

piniella,

It seems to me you're having a bit of trouble thinking cogently about the world. Sometimes clearing the mind helps with this problem. My suggestion is a Liquid Plumber enema. That is the part of your anatomy you reason with, isn't it?

I for one would really apprec

I for one would really appreciate NB posting the e-mail address for the smarmy syndicator that publishes this putrid punk's drivel. Attempting to directly insult this sophmoric, left-wing weasel  would be like sliding a pork chop in front of Rosie O'Donnell - he would just eat it up. I don't know if contacting the syndicator would be worth it but what could it hurt??

Here are a couple the posters

Here are a couple the posters over at Pat Dollard's site have come up with, but they all look to be directly to Rall, and not the syndication list of outlets that carry his [work]. 

chet@rall.com

http://www.tedrall.com/email.htm

http://www.rall.com/email.htm

I looked here for an email

I looked here for an email address but didn't find anything for general email. I guess if we bombard the sales manager they might respond.

D


I don't support our liberals or their mission.

Rall has absolutely NO concep

Rall has absolutely NO concept of, nor is he able to, the difference between our troops and the terrorists.  Our troops are commanded by :

 "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."

- Attributed to General George Patton Jr

Please see Pat Dollard's ex

Please see Pat Dollard's excellent response "When Cowards Talk..."

What can one say about this v

What can one say about this vile jerk?  I'm reminded of a line from a Royal Navy officer fitness report that I'll paraphrase here:

"Just when you think he has hit rock bottom, he resumes digging."

My son came back from Iraq a

My son came back from Iraq a few months ago, he served as a Corpsman with the 5th Marines on a PSD. Yes, he was a drop out...he entered college at 13 and did drop out before he graduated to join. He reentered the university,carried 18 units and now will challenge the last 6 units to graduate. To say the least we TOTALLY support him and the mission...this guy is a loser.

My sincere appreciation to yo

My sincere appreciation to you and your son, MOM.

We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat. - Queen Victoria

This Rall fungus...is a tra

This Rall fungus...is a traitor. Nothing more and nothing less. I was going to e-mail the maggot...but it's clear it won't get through to him. Check out his e-mail guidelines page. He must get death threats and hate mail by the ton. He's just a Rosie wannabe. May he rot in hell for all eternity... http://www.tedrall.com/email.htm Happy Trails...

?

"we TOTALLY support him and the mission."

WHAT'S THE MISSION?

RALL

The cartoon is pretty accurate.

piniella  ... Perhaps i

piniella  ... Perhaps it appears accurate to a brain dead Troll like you. To those of us with functioning brains, it's the work of a traitor...a traitor just like you. You also may rot in Hell. If I could be sure that by escorting you there, you would arrive in Hell, I would gladly do so, just so I could watch you burn. Happy Trails...

Re: blah blah blah

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE 1ST AMENDMENT, GET OUT OF AMERICA!

... okay, now I get it.Noel,

... okay, now I get it.

Noel, you scamp.  Piniella and com_ns_nse are provocateur bots dispatched by NewsBusters to enrage and entertain your commenters.  Am I right?!   Ho, ho, ho!  * Noogie *

Quick tip:  their cleverness chips desperately needs to be upgraded.

Trying to cover for your fe

Trying to cover for your fellow idiots? Happy Trails...

BOTS??

DAHLIA,

SEEN ANY OF THOSE PESKY WMD?

Dear Bot:The many thousands o

Dear Bot:

The many thousands of Iranians and then Kurds that Saddam Hussein killed and maimed with WMD would be surprised to learn that Saddam Hussein did not possess WMD.

Your friend,

Dahlia

pintrolla

Hey pinhead, please explain h

Hey pinhead, please explain how Bush managed to fool all of these democrats before he was even President.  I know Gov. of Texas is a powerful position but I am not sure how he got Clinton and Albright  et al to agree with him before Bush got into office.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
   - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 | Source

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."   - President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 | Source

"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."   - Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 | Source

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."   - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 | Source

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.   - (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 | Source

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."   - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 | Source

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."   - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 | Source

Townhall.com | August 1, 2003

President George W. Bush, under siege for "misleading" the country into war against Iraq, received some help from an unusual source -- former President Bill Clinton.

"When I left office, there was a substantial amount of biological and chemical material unaccounted for . . . it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks . . . " said Clinton recently on "Larry King Live." Also, Clinton said he never found out whether a U.S.-British bombing campaign he ordered in 1998 ended Saddam's stockpiles of or his capability of producing chemical and biological weapons. "We might have gotten it all, we might have gotten half of it, we might have gotten none of it. But we didn't know," said Clinton.

Presidential contender Sen. Bob Graham, D-FL, actually suggested impeachment of the president over Bush's 2003 State of the Union speech reference about an Iraqi-Africa uranium connection. But Clinton said, "The White House said . . . that on balance they probably shouldn't have put that comment in the speech. What happened, often happens. There was a disagreement between British intelligence and American intelligence. The president said it was British intelligence that said it. . . . British intelligence still maintain that they think the nuclear story was true. I don't know what was true, what was false. . . . Here's what happens: every day the president gets a daily brief from the CIA. And then, if it's some important issue -- and believe me, you know, anything having to do with chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons became much more important to everybody in the White House after September the 11th -- then they probably told the president, certainly Condoleezza Rice, that this is what the British intelligence thought."

Set the Wayback Machine for 1998...

It seems like you would make a good contestant on my gameshow "Name That Hypocrite" at:

http://pointvcounterpoint.blogspot.com/2007/06/new-pvc-interactive-conte...

Liberals seem to live their life like they are in the movie Memento and they keep flashing back to the moment when Bush declared war on Iraq and they can't remember anything happening before that. Good post.

What a brainless, spineless w

What a brainless, spineless wonder this scumbag is!  As my dear old Dad would say, "He's lower than a snake's a$$!   I hope he runs into a soldier somewhere soon who will set him straight. 

As Bugs Bunny asked Pete Puma, "How many lumps do ya want?" 

Its people like this that r

Its people like this that remind me of why there must be a heaven and a hell. Afterall, there HAS to be a place for such evil. Ted Rall kinda makes public lyching's look good again.

Proof he is Anti-American

 

I am sad that people like Ted Rall call themselves American. I sure wish the ultra leftists would have followed though on their threat to leave the country if Bush was reelected. I know that talking to this person would be a waste of the time it took, as anyone who can put those thoughts to paper is intellectually bankrupt.

 

Pintrolla, I wish I knew what town you came from, so I could convict you of any crime anyone who ever came from there committed. Your logic is flawed like your life.

 Hope, is not a course of action.

Our Resident Liberals

Now that the dust has settled on this post, there's one thing I find more revealing than Rall's cartoon - the total lack of commentary by our resident liberals (not counting banned trolls, of course).

All the liberals who have done lip service to the "I support the troops, but not the war" mantra on this site have decided that it isn't worth their time or energy to comment on and/or reject Rall's characterization of our troops.

Not a one.

But then, I never quite understood what these liberals mean by "support".

I guess showing our troops some respect in the form of a simple post condemning Rall isn't a part of that.

I'll condemn it....Rall's

I'll condemn it....Rall's cartoon is unspeakably obscene, and it is certainly not reflective of my sentiments regarding the military, nor those of the vast majority of Democrats who have the utmost respect for our young men and women in uniform. 

This may come as a surprise to some of you, but even Democrats serve in the military, and fight, bleed, and die for their country.  What I find so objectionable is the tendency of some to equate criticism of war or of an administration waging war with lacking patriotism or rooting for the enemy. 

Personally, I believe Saddam Hussein was a monstrous thug, but I also believe going to war in Iraq was and continues to be a terrible blunder.  My reason is simple:  I am a "hawk" when it comes to the war on terror, and I have always felt the Iraq misadventure to be counterproductive to that wider war.

It's just words, man, ya know

It's just words, man, ya know?  They SOUND good, they SOUND pretty.  Doesn't mean anything to liberals...as long as it SOUNDS like they mean something good, even when they absolutely do not believe a word of it.

FULL OF SHITE=Liberals!!!!

Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar. 

You should check out this s

You should check out this scumbag's website at http://www.tedrall.com Also check out some of his fine merchandise, such as the "Support Our Goons" ballcap. See here: http://www.cafepress.com/tedrall.25523550

Words cannot express my disgust for this small, meanspirited excuse for a man.

Eenie-Meanie-Miney - Hey Moe!

This stooge should be put on a desert island with about 50 Navy Seals and asked to explain this cartoon. He would be quick to find out that soldiers are actually above average in intelligence (you try being dropped in the dark in the middle of an ocean with nothing but a Buck knife and a compass and try to capture a fully-fortified island with M60s blazing and let me know if that doesn't take some ingenuity). And also let me know if employers, besides non-profit orgs and media rags like the ones who publish this cartoon don't respect the integrity, honor, stick-to-itness, and not to mention, advanced technical training that our soldiers possess in spades over your average joe. If the sorts of myths this cartoon pervades weren't so prevalent in the MSM and in academia, it would be more laughable.

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