Today's real showdown in "Super Tuesday" was in Ohio where the poll results are still very close between Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney. Who do you think will win the state? Post your comments here about the race or the media coverage of it.
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Santorum
Submitted by Boudin on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 11:06pm.
Because Drudge has had him leading all night
Virginia
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 11:10pm.
I'm not sure what the total numbers for turnout will be, but I didn't vote today for the first time since I was able to, in 1976. I know that the people working for Santorum and Gingrich dropped the ball, but I didn't like the state party changing the filing rules. I was also not able to do a write in vote.
Romney did win, but I drove by my polling place at noon and there was 3 cars there. I think those were the poll workers. There were no signs and no ads and I even missed those annoying robocalls. I'm not sure how much a "win" this is for Romney, other than the delegates.
I hope the left takes that as a lack of enthusiasm in Virginia. I had a pep talk with my wife and her family today. We will crawl across broken glass and metal shavings, on bloody stumps to vote for WHOEVER is running against the President.
VA here too
Submitted by GregE on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 11:29pm.
I also vote in everything, but didn't even go to this one since I don't support either of these 2 in the primaries. A buddy was #179 at his polling place at 6:30pm. That's a terrible turnout for that particular precinct, even in a Primary.
I still have the occasional person who tells me they won't vote if it's Romney vs Obama, yet I think they will. And I make sure to tell them that that is simply a huge misunderstanding of the stakes. I tell them I my vote will be against Obama, not for Romney, period, but it WILL be a vote. I also ask them if they notice how powerful and activist the Supreme Court is, then make sure they understand that the next President could be replacing 2 or 3, and the Court is right now split right down the middle on MAJOR issues. Those next 2 or 3 will be good or will terrorize America for the next 25+ years. I tell them if they don't understand all the ins and outs of the dangers around Obama himself, vote to stop a runaway SCOTUS.
Greg
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 11:35pm.
Very good point about SCOTUS, and I don't hear it enough. In all truth, we are voting to get rid of Obamacare and to keep the Supremes from becoming the Soviets.
I'm in Floyd County. For years we were solid red (not Commie Red). Within the last decade we've been invaded by northeastern, liberal, trust fund babies and retirees that have brought their voting habits (which ruined their home states) and are turning us. We went McCain last time, but it was closer than I'd have liked.
I'm with you on the vote. It won't necessarily be for the R, but it will be against the O.
I hear ya Phil
Submitted by GregE on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 11:53pm.
Nice out there in Floyd. McCain may have barely won, but 2008 was an odd election on many fronts.
Whoever is President must fight to repeal Obamacare. Romney says "I'll repeal it." BS, he needs to pick up a Constitution and realize he can't just repeal statutory law with his pen. We have someone now who thinks like that, we don't need another. He's no Obama (but who the heck is), but he needs to be schooled in things like that from those who know.
He can lead in the repeal effort, but he has no actual pen-to-paper authority whatsoever until it reaches his desk after getting through BOTH houses of Congress. Without both houses he simply says "oh well my hands are tied" and moves on, and down the road to serfdom we go. To lead the effort, he must have the mindset and realize it's importance.
For people who say they'll stay home, the SCOTUS piece is the easiest to get across. They can picture 1-2 Justices writing an opinion that could effect the rest of their lives. Obamacare is so big, so reaching, and not yet fully upon us, that people often can't wrap their arms around that and it may not motivate them. If you ask someone what about Obamacare they want repealed, many who call for its repeal couldn't actually tell you why............................just as many who "like" it, also can't tell you why, beyond "can't be denied coverage," "26 year old on parents policy," and "everyone can now be covered." Those are easy, big bullets, but it didn't take 2700 pages to just do those 3 things.
"I still have the occasional person who tells me ....
Submitted by NL207 on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 2:43pm.
they won't vote if it's Romney vs Obama"
Why don't you believe them? In my area it's fully 30% of registered Republicans. I think they are dead serious and they detest Romney. They think he is a liar, little different than Obama. If Romney leads the ticket, this will KILL our congressional candidates.
The underlying issue more than anything is Obamacare. Most of these anti-Romney folks believe Romney is lying when he says he will repeal Obamacare. They base this upon his support for Romneycare. If Romney cannot change these attitudes, he will not win and he may take the whole party down with him.
I don't believe them....
Submitted by GregE on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:28pm.
..........because I remember how I felt in 2008 when McCain won. I said I wasn't going to vote for him, was going to vote for Bob Barr, then as the months passed, and Obama more revealed himself as the Marxist he is, I had to vote McCain. Some may not vote if Romney if he is the candidate, but that is a grave mistake that will hurt all of us. I believe Obama is one that people do not understand if they stay home.
Please don't overlook SCOTUS.
Yahoo Election page is great
Submitted by GregE on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 11:58pm.
http://news.yahoo.com/elections/
Clickable states and full results with map and details.
I have watched Santorum's lead shrink to under 1.5%, with 67% reporting.
Crap, and now it's tied.........78% reporting.
Ohio map looks like a Democrat / Republican matchup, where the Democrat wins 15% of the landmass and the Republican holds the entire rest of the state, yet it's tied. In this case, Santorum has 85% of the land mass.
I guess when you get more densely populated, you tend to be turn lib. :-)
GOP Establishment in now "finding" "lost ballots" no doubt
Submitted by Free Stinker on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 12:04am.
They can't let the Conservatives go around ignoring the will of the GOP establishment now, can they? Even if Romney squeaks ahead, it's not a winner-take-all state, and after outspending Rick 12-to-1, that's a pretty bad performance.
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Agreed.
Submitted by GregE on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 12:54am.
More info on the delegate breakdown. Can't anyone in or near government do anything without massive complexities?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_Republican_primary,_2012
Looking at the map, gonna make a prediction and hope I'm wrong. Romney will win. Currently 85% reporting, point-2% Santorum lead. Romney leading big in several high population counties that are not yet 70% reported. If their trend continues, Romney will pull ahead. Hope I'm dead wrong.
Few things-
Submitted by bkeyser on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 12:11am.
First, take a look at what's happened to Carbonite stock since they pulled their ads from Rush's show. According to the Daily Caller, where I first saw this, it's dropped 12%, or, 9-1/2 points over and above the NASDAQ losses during the same period.
Second, Britt Hume had an interesting analysis regarding a potential low turnout in Virgina. It touched partly on what Greg and Phil were discussing above -lot of Santorum and/or Newt supporters in the State- and thatRomney supporters would have no real reason to turn out since he was a lock for the win. THe mdeia will spin it as lack of enthusiasm, of course, but I think Britt is probably right. Today's turnout will have no bearing on November's.
Third, the Ohio vote has turned toward Romney as the Cleveland and Cinncinnati areas started reporting. It'll probably be close in the end and says a lot for Santorum given that it's likely most of the early voting was for Romney (before Santorum's rise in the polls) and the fact that Romney has outspent him there by several times, just as he did in Michigan. Clearly Romney running for President for 6 years has allowed him to outspend his competition by a long shot. That has to be playing a big role.
I always cast dear leader as
Submitted by ThisnThat on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:48am.
I always cast dear leader as o'bama because of his lie that he's irish. Now, msnbc is touting the o'bama fluff piece that the o'bama Irish 2012 t-shirts are "SOLD OUT". They're just giddy over "o'bama must be Irish" happy talk. What a bunch of bull-crap.
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Ha Ha....Kucinich got primaried!
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 12:41pm.
And the person who beat him will be facing Joe the Plumber in November
That is sweet.
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The person who beat
Submitted by stratman on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 7:03pm.
The person who beat Kookcinich is Marci Kaptur, another committed Leftist without Dennis' other worldly bent. She and Sherrod Brown are kindred spirits, so there really isn't any benefit to non-Leftist Ohioans. Joe The Plumber will be crushed in the general election. The ridiculous redistricted swath of land - from Cleveland to Toledo along the Lake Erie shore - is staunchly Democrat.
My rep Marcia Fudge (D-umb) is running unopposed. She has done nothing of worth since she replaced the deceased Stephanie Tubbs Jones. I can't win for losing when it comes to Congressional representatives.
My mother, a lifelong Democrat (old school), voted on the Republican ballot for the first time in her life.
In my county, voters have to feed their ballots into an optical scanner. The scanners are huge and look like an old standup Victrola. A nicely dressed 30-something woman asked which line to get into for the optical scanner. Figuring she was a Democrat - I do live in Democratville after all - I said one line was for Republicans and the other for Democrats, difference being the optical scanner for the Republicans was in reality a shredder. It took her a few seconds but then she laughed and said good. Had her pegged right.
I hate to say it, but it looks as though the repub establishment
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 1:23pm.
...is going to get its candidate, just as it did in 2008.
God help us.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Yes, Dave, I've thought that for a while now
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 1:36pm.
However, being the "glass half full" person that I am, let me point out the silver lining.
By dragging this thing out so long, and the "conservative alternative to Romney" still pulling half the votes or thereabouts, will ensure that Romney gets the message. I think he's finding himself in a Catch-22 over RomneyCare at this point. He should have disavowed it early on as a mistake, but he didn't, so now he's painted himself into a corner. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't eventually come out with "I was wrong, mea culpa".
I think he's going to be forced by the continued conservative support of Santorum and Gingrich to put a real conservative in the #2 spot, rather than a moderate like TPaws. It is my hope that we get Allen West. Who is the ONLY man for the job. Sorry Rick. I voted for you in the primary, but unless you get the nod, I'm one and done.
I do believe all of the candidates have agreed to support the eventual nominee. And I think the full slate of candidates backing Romney will go far to fix what's hurting right now. Also, they'll be credible surrogates.
Finally (and Romney's big appeal all along) is that he's attractive to the indies and the democrats who now loathe Obama.
Oh, second finally....his wife will be a fabulous First Lady. I saw her on Cavuto the other day, and as handsome and smart as Mitt is, the guy really outkicked his coverage. I'd vote for her in a heartbeat.
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Agree J
Submitted by bkeyser on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 2:17pm.
I think it'll be Romney, even though I prefer Santorum's integrity. Hopefully Mitt won't sell out.
I was listening to Beck while out earlier this morning and a caller from Mass was talking about Romney and how once he took the Governorship, he governed more conservatively than he campaigned. The thinking, I assume, is that a conservative couldn't be elected in Mass but that once in office, his conservative stripe -at least economically- surfaced for the betterment of the state. I didn't know it, but apparently he took over the "Big Dig" project and stopped the bleeding- even though there was nothing for him to gain politically and lots to lose. I also think he gets a bad rap on the number of liberal policies enacted under his leadership that were the result of veto over-rides. I guess he might have been able to put out some kind of executive statement abolishing those items, but we generally don't elect Caesars in the US.
RomneyCare is a problem. BUT, it's not as if his opponent is running to the right of him on that front. Essentially, Romney is 100x better than Obama on the issue in that he'll at least work to end it. Personally, I think the whole thing will come crashing down when SCOTUS gets ahold of it. If they strike down the mandate, Obama's not only in bigger trouble having his signature legislation deemed unconstitutional, they can't go at RomneyCare as "the same".
I know Dave's libertarian streak makes Romney seem really scary, but I also know he's not so far to the right that he'll accidentally slide into siding with Obama territory. Romeny is also not McCain; he's 99x better than that old fool. So, if the worst-case scenario unfolds for conservatives, it's still loads better than what's in place. And I'm pretty sure we'll be looking at a Romney/Some-Florida-Senator-or-Representative ticket. My guess is, Mitt won't ignore the vice of his VP the way Obama ignores Joe...
Okay, bad analogy. Mitt will surely find the advice of his VP valuable, and his VP will stand ready to hold his feet to the fire.
Can't find a word wrong there, BK
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 2:33pm.
I suspect he'd LOVE to have Rubio as his #2, but I don't think Marco wants it. He might end up taking it, if offered, though.
I still prefer Allen West. Allen is a HARD CORE conservative, and is (as is his trademark signature) "steadfast and loyal". I think the conservative base would go even crazier than we did when McRino selected Sarah Palin.
West fills in Romney's lack of military experience, and even though Allen left as a relatively low ranking officer, trust me when I tell you, he knows ALL of the senior military players from the very informative lens of down the chain (I know you'll get what I'm saying). We need to sweep these Obama generals out of the Pentagon. I loathe political generals, and the crew in there now is the worst of that class (they are all somewhat political once they put on the star). We need warriors in the Stormin' Norman mold (read his bio sometime) to fight the politicians and political correctness that has run amok in the military.
Allen is having a Town Hall meeting next week, and I think I'll go. Any questions you'd like me to ask?
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Good evening BK and Blonde
Submitted by cocodrie on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 3:57pm.
I pray both of you are right. We can't afford to lose. We need the senate, congress and the presidency if we are to survive. I'd support Allen West for anything from dog-catcher to king of the world.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Well, Coco
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 5:23pm.
We are going to go next week.....so I'll be sure to bring it up.....that he has so much support from us mean old conservies that "I'd support Allen West for anything from dog-catcher to king of the world".
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bk---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:09pm.
I don't really care that much for Romney ( though I don't have anything specific to say against him) because of the uncomfortable feeling that the "old guard" GOP has essentially decided he is the one; and I just don't trust them anymore.
That said, your post was excellent in presenting why the glass should be viewed, optimistically, as being half full, rather than as being half empty.
Very nice job, Marine.
MD
Boehner
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:17pm.
is an example of why we shouldn't trust the "old guard".
Rational concern
Submitted by GregE on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:29pm.
Marco Rubio's Constitutional qualifications to be VP. Pres and VP both have the same requirements. Rubio's parents citizenship at the time of his birth might be a Constitutional issue.
Dave, How many polygamist compounds are going to be raided.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:35pm.
In this election cycle?
Sooo convenient.. that the MSM is laying low, chomping at the bit patiently waiting for the attack of the century.
I can't believe the GOP wondering into this trap.
On the upside, we are going to learn Soo much more about Mormonism....
You Didn't Build That.
~No Wednesday open thread?
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 1:57pm.
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~Alright, I'll put this here
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 2:01pm.
Last night I heard about GEICO's toadying to the Left, so I just switched our auto coverage and sent this to the toadies...
To whom it may concern:
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I am aware that you were not one of his sponsors, yet you still felt the need to issue a statement distancing yourselves from Rush Limbaugh, thereby inserting yourselves into the debate and taking sides. This is most regrettable, as I have had no cause to be dissatisfied with the service your company provides. Unfortunately, I cannot abide hypocrisy, as I am aware that you advertise with various left wing outlets who have regularly defamed, slandered, and sexualized women. Apparently, if a woman is conservative she has it coming, according to the actions of both the institutionalized Left and it's boot-licking lackeys, of whom you are one.
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she might get around to thanking your company for coming so promptly to heel.
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Awesome
Submitted by bkeyser on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 2:19pm.
+
Plus, their spokesman is not even an American.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 2:23pm.
Would a gila lizard or a Bufo americanus have been so terrible?
~There's nothing more American
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 2:28pm.
than a green anole.
One thing I'd change to that letter though, I wish I'd worked in a 'Breitbart Is Here'.
I know, MSNBC is full of them.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 2:48pm.
Oh, ANOLE. Sorry!
All of the green anoles here
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 3:02pm.
.....are gone. We now have Cuban anoles.
And I'm not kidding.
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~Wow
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 3:20pm.
Those imperialist pig American anoles had it coming.
(sorry, I was channeling a liberal there for a second)
Hey B:
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 3:36pm.
Do they also do that 'Hey, I didn't need that tail anyway" thing?
Absolutely, SoL
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 3:55pm.
Else they'd never get away from my kitties. I have lots of stub-tailed Cuban anoles on the patio.
The ones in Central America actually chirp. "Ee Ee Ee Ee EEEEee". We'd have a ball watching them on the patio...as they'd fight (at night) for the best position on the wall next to the patio lights, to catch the bugs. I suppose we are easily amused, watching the Iguanas leap at the flowers, and the baby iguanas leap at the butterflies, etc. I miss it so.
Ask Unsane about the frogs in Costa Rica. He left his shoes on the patio one night....and had a hitch-hiker the next morning. The first week we were in the Casa Grande, the frogs were mating...they were so loud you almost had to shout to be heard.
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I hope many of you have heard
Submitted by ricklail on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 3:45pm.
I hope many of you have heard that there was weeping, whaling and gnashing of teeth over at MESSNBC when they found out Kucinich had been defeated. Boy is it going to be fun to watch them on November 6th if Obama loses. We may see some of them drink the Jim Jones koolaid. Knowing Tingles he might just jump out the window. Good thing they are on the first floor.
I don't think the lady replacing him is any better. She may not be as nutty
http://moonbattery.com/?p=8966
It gets better, Rick
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 3:57pm.
The nutjob that kicked Dennay the Toupe is going to have to run against Joe the Plumber in the November election.
Sweet!
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Heard this morning that is a
Submitted by ricklail on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 4:08pm.
Heard this morning that is a heavily Commicrat district. Good luck Joe. I know he will be drug through the mud by the MSM.
Want to buy a Volt? Obama
Submitted by ricklail on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 4:33pm.
Want to buy a Volt? Obama proposing a 10k tax break now. He's at Freightliner in Mt. Holly campaigning. I lived in Gaston County for 14 years. The people around that area are very conservative. This probably didn't go over very well.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/03/07/3076251/president-obama-char...
Santorum - Newt- Mitt the three amigos of destruction
Submitted by lrgon on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 5:50pm.
They are 3 peas in a pod.
The 3 amigos of the staus quo have embraced through their actions (very easily provable actions by the way) to grow the federal government and to not care about our nation's indebtedness and to blindly throw their support around a foreign policy run by elitists in Washignton to be a nation forever at war just for the sake of being at war!
The three peas in the rotten pod of establishment politics have sold their souls to the establishment just so that they can have a go at the White House.
Do they really love America? I doubt it. Newt once wrote a forward to a book by Alvin and Heidi Toffler in which the Tofflers invisioned US sovereignty and independence as an old fashioned concept that must die.
Newt was a nut back then and has had to tone down his big support for internationalism and "Future shock" Marxists. Ann Coulter exposed his connections to the marxists Tofflers.
Santorum never wrote forwards to books written by Marxists; he only supports their departments in Washington.
And Mitt, well no one really believes that nonsense about his change of heart on nationalized health care.
These three dummies see nothing UnChrist like to embrace a foreign policy of evil. Madeleine Albright described it thusly to Leslie Stahl when the liberal 60 Minutes asked Albright:
"We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?"
Albright replied "we think the price is worth it."
The cost of destroying the lives of one half million kids via a war based UN embargo of medicine just to go after one man in power! Wow, talk about evil.
But that's how power mad liberals think and it's also how power mad neocons think.
The 3 amigos of perdition have forgotten that the middle eastern region once considered the US a friend. The Shah of Iran was our great ally and the ruler that made peace overtures to Israel. Could it be that the GOP has been following the foreign policy of Jimmy Carter? Carter deposed the Shah and made a mess of things and the GOP has stepped into what Carter created.
The only solution is to get back to the Constitution. Stop foreign aid, bring our troops home away from the abuses they suffer following UN directives. Build new bases at home and close the overseas ones and let Afghanistan, Iraq, South Korea, Japan, Germany, Italy, et al, take care of their own defense budget. The cost of empire is not worth losing our liberties at home and destroying our economy over.
Send Rush, Hannity, Levine, Medved, Bill' O and the 3 amigos fight "over there." Give them a UN uniform since they are so gung ho war crazy. And anyone else war nutzo can join them.
You can try to dress your comments any way you like,
Submitted by UpNorth on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 6:01pm.
Irksome.
It doesn't matter. The majority of the people voting in the primaries see Ronpaul for what he is, an isolationist, anti-Semitic, racist crackpot, one who finishes 3rd or last everywhere, except where there are only him and one other candidate on the ballot. Then he finishes dead last.
And really, Leslie Stahl and Madeleine Albright? You are truly as bat-shiite crazy as Ronpaul.
Take it easy. There's always 2016. Or 2020.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 6:06pm.
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Day-um, SoL, there's still that many ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:15pm.
Paulbots in the country?
MD