Open Thread: Model Statism
Before your weekend pigout, you might want to discuss how Europe may be taking the food puritanism to new heights (or depths). Daniel Mitchell reports that the London School of Economics is now addressing the societal need to curb pictures of skinny models in women's magazines.
"The LSE academics said restricting the use of photographs of underweight models in magazines would help ease the pressure on women to be very thin. In a paper that will be published in the journal Economia later this year, LSE economist Dr Joan Costa-Font and Professor Mireia Jofre-Bonet from City University wrote: “Government intervention would be justified to curb the spread of a potential epidemic of food disorders." Your thoughts?
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I thought that was already
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 8:29am.
I thought that was already going on. Weren't a couple of models banned from the runway for being too skinny?
I agree with you; I don't think this is a matter for laws. But there is something seriously contradictory in our view of women's bodies.
I remember a few years ago, when Jennifer Hudson won the Oscar for "Dream Girls" I remember all the talk was about how, finally, we had gotten over our obsession with skinny. Here was a woman with some meat on her bones and not ashamed of her body.
Now she's hawking Weight Watchers and bragging about losing 80 lbs.
Jennifer then and now
When are they gonna make up their minds
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 8:18am.
Well I thought obesity was the problem.
Of course, liberals always attack from both sides, since neither side makes sense.
The "problem" is liberals.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 11:56am.
They just loooooooooove to tell everyone what the hell to do. I'll swear, they're all like a bunch of women (or men) in the full throes of Magnum PMS.
If you're skinny, you should get fat. If you're fat, you should get skinny. If you're Three-Bears weight, you need to either get skinny or get fat so they can keep bitching at you!
Today's Lesson Plan:
"Kids, eat what we tell you to eat. We don't care what your poor, ignorant mom thinks. After all, she showed us what poor judgment she has when she took you to Sunday School and church. Even if mom is feeding you exactly the same thing we are, Ours is superior!!
By the way, boys and girls, you can use your demo condoms as water bottles to hydrate properly on the playground. They fit nicely in your armor plated flak jackets, which match your steel toed boots, helmet, Kevlar gloves, and knee pads which are required for playing 'Catch'em, but don't sexually assault them.' We wouldn't want you to fall down and get hurt. It is much more preferable for you to grow up stupid and unaware so that you will vote for the Dear Leader."
These people really get tiresome. I have reached the point that whatever they say, I do the opposite, figuring that they are NEVER right.
Private schools rock.
doing the opposite syndrome
Submitted by lrgon on Mon, 03/05/2012 - 2:00pm.
If someone you know is a liberal says they hate slavery, you will say you like it?
The ACLU is a leftwing outfit founded by a socialist names Roger Baldwin that told his adherents to wrap themselves in the US flag. Does that mean you will not salute the flag just to do and say the exact opposite?
"I have reached the point that whatever they say, I do the opposite, figuring that they are NEVER right."
What happens when they oppose the same thing s conservatives oppose?
For example that the National Defense Authorization Act, the Patriot Act, SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act), PIPA (Protect Intellectual Property Act) are all anti-Bill of Rights? There is opposition to these onerous acts and bills all across the political spectrum.
Obamacare
Submitted by ahusser on Mon, 03/05/2012 - 6:20pm.
Is more freedom limiting than the Patriot Act ever will be. Wait till we get Cap and Trade.
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
well we need this!
Submitted by superllama on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 8:45am.
who doesn't need more government in their lives? obviously, these skinny models do. the government of any nation, indeed the world, if we are so blessed to have that happen, should take control of every human being's calorie/food intake every day. we should all submit to the higher powers, who know better than us how to run our lives. it should be of no consequence that we make free choices to eat as much (or in this case as little) as we want. on a less sarcastic note, if many of the past's beautiful ladies were alive today, they would be seen as fat cows. society judges these people, and we should encourage our kids to think that being 5'11" and 60 lbs is not healthy. on the other hand, saying "put down the twinkie and step away" should be said a little more often than "you are beautiful just like you are, honey....have some more lasagna, or a few more burgers from mcdonalds". how about "be healthy" instead?
"Come back, Shame!"
Submitted by CO2Maker on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 11:03am.
Where is shame when you need it. (This may come as a surprise to all you Catholics out there, but shame is a surprisingly rare emotion felt by most of the rest of the population.)
Overweight kids? Name-calling on the school grounds. Of course, that was back in the days before fast-food restaurants you can order from with an iPad, back when mom made the meals and controlled what the kids ate (except for a few sourballs or sticks of gum), back before every child's playmate was a cartoon character peddling sweet crunchy breakfast cereals.
While we're at it:
The F-word in school, as in, "You get an F on this exam." Actual objective results with actual right and wrong answers. No grading on the curve. (I remember a high school teacher who said, "Curve? Yeah, sure. I'll grade on the curve. I made 100 on this test, so the curve starts at 100." Groans all around.
If a student actually said the F-word, it better not have been toward a teacher. More shame—actually, fear—combined with detention or expulsion, which was worse in a private school because they could expel a kid and not refund the money! Ouch!
Pregnant girls in high-school? Not so it showed. They went away for some vague reason and came back next year with a cousin. The boy? Scorned, reviled, maybe punched around a bit and persuaded to say "I do" with a gun at his back, or off to the Army after he left school. (I attended four high schools—thank you, US Army—and I never heard of any boy from an affluent family knocking up a girl, but I did hear of other boys from "lower SES" families who did so.)
Girls who "put out" were called "easy" and held in low opinion by the boys (except, they could be fun!). Most of the guys I knew who bragged about it were probably lying and, in any event, not the "most likely to succeed" candidates in the yearbook. ("Most likely to be a car mechanic" was more like it, back when that was a put-down.)
Unwed (i.e., not widowed) mothers of any age? Very rare and not held up as models of wise decisions.
Catholic/shame
Submitted by rusino on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 11:23am.
"Where is shame when you need it. (This may come as a surprise to all you Catholics out there, but shame is a surprisingly rare emotion felt by most of the rest of the population.)"
I must have missed your point. I am Catholic out here. What does Catholic have to do with this particular item?
Catholic guilt
Submitted by CO2Maker on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 3:57pm.
Catholic guilt => shame
Or at least that's how it felt to me.
Or as the psychiatrist said to the man on the couch, "You still feel guilty? You ought to be ashamed!" ba-da-bing!
"Girls who "put out" were called "easy"
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 12:03pm.
Now they're called by the President for Life RBFSOB to see "how they are doing."
CO2Maker
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 3:08pm.
Giving exams with objective right answers, grading on a curve and handing out F's aren't correlated in the way you seem to suggest.
The problems on my physics exams have objective right answers, I do grade on a curve and just about every semester, in every class, I fail some students (I'm talking college here, not high school)
Some topics of study don't lend themselves to objective right/wrong answers. But that doesn't prevent a teacher from assessing the quality of a student's work based on the standards they have adopted.
And since it's the teacher who ultimately decides what to test their students on (at least in college), curving or not curving is more a matter of choice than anything else. If I was told not to curve grades, it wouldn't really make much difference to me. I would just adjust the difficulty level of the problems I give my students to get the grade distribution that I want.
Just watched last week's
Submitted by American Delight on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 9:05am.
Just watched last week's McLaughlin Group. Eleanor Clift claimed that part of the reason college education costs have gone up is that state governments have run out of money to subsidize it.
Excuse me, but how does that account for 6-figure tuitions for a 4-yr degree at so many private universities?
Ah, Eleanor SCRREEEEEEEECH Clift
Submitted by CO2Maker on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 11:22am.
A voice that would peel the heat-shield tiles off the space shuttle.
Every analysis I've seen over the last five years or so has come to the exactly opposite conclusion: Pell grants and other forms of tuition subsidies and money transfers to universities have caused college tuition costs to rise, not fall. Universities expand curricula, add positions, increase facilities, and the costs continue to go up. I got a graduate degree and worked for 20 years at UNC, which stood for "University of Never-ending Construction."
Tuition grants and other mechanisms work like rent controls to distort the market pricing of housing and drive up costs of available apartments at a higher rate than inflation and other normal mechanisms of price increases.
Token banshee
Submitted by American Delight on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 9:37pm.
LOL. Spot on, CO2Maker. Rich Lowry made similar points during the show, but I think McLaughlin ran out of time for the segment & Clift got the last word without being challenged.
So, what is it?
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 9:20am.
We cant eat that much, yet we dont eat enough! Make up your minds, Govt, so I know what to do! Cause I, or the rest of us, cant think for ourselves!
While the Heels were
Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 9:36am.
While the Heels were dismantling DOOK in that rathole, Cameron Indoor Stadium, I watched bits and peices of the forum hosted by Gov. Huckabee. This is the right way to do things. They were not allowed to trash each other. The citizens asked some good non biased questions. The panel was not full of journalist that had an agenda. I'd like to see this type more often. I did learn the details of their plan for jobs. You can't get that is 30 seconds in a debate.
Out of town trip made easier
Submitted by CO2Maker on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 9:41am.
I was out of town yesterday and returned in the early evening. I made the 2.5 hour trip alone in my car, starting at 7:00 and ending in my driveway with the final buzzer. What a pleasant drive.
It was great to watch on TV.
Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 9:55am.
It was great to watch on TV. The Heels quieted the snivleing brags from DOOK early. They were not a factor in the game like they claim to be time after time. I get so sick and tired of the announcers talking about the quaintness of Cameron. It is a dump. Been there and will never go back.
Who needs green jobs?
Submitted by CO2Maker on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 10:38am.
That was Algorithm's question. He wants to sign up as an official federal body-fat-measurer, manual pat-down cadre. First they will start a small field test unit working with models like the ones on the runways and at Victoria's Secrets, and then when they work out all the kinks, they'll move on to screening the population as a whole. Of course, they'll start with shopping malls and Walmart (if Jay Leno's jokes about fat customers is a reliable indicator of a target-rich environment) and move on to fast-food restaurants, Golden Corral, Appleby's, and the entire range of boulevard theme restaurants, and tehn barbecue vendors and Baskin-Robbins parlors. Whole Foods will be at the end of the line.
TSA screeners and scanners have a leg up on the rest of the applicants because they have already been trained in pat-downs to find extra stuff. Now they just have to learn how to detect not enough mass on the ribcage or too much. Sometimes they will have to take extra measurements just to be sure, because we don't want any false positives OR false negatives.
Federal Gummint, saving us one subcutaneous molecule of fat at a time. Thenk yew, thenk yew.
You Better Knock Us Out Now!
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 10:10am.
In response to Planned Parenthood's "I Have a Say" campaign, asking women to upload their own videos in support of free contraception, a Catholic Priest, Fr. John Hollowell, made his own video in response, and it is amazing.
Here Comes the Catholic Church
MB, this is a great video.
Submitted by 26CX on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 10:22am.
I hope people will be able to persevere and follow through to the end on this battle because it's already very ugly and is only going to get worse.
The Anchoress also has an
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 10:30am.
The Anchoress also has an update by Cardinal Dolan on the status of this issue. (if you want to read his whole article, follow the first link, not the one at the end that says "read it all.")
WH to Dolan: We're Not Listening, But You Should!
What jumped out at me:
The White House already notified Congress that the dreaded mandates are now published in the Federal Registry “without change.” .....[ ]..... And a recent meeting between staff of the bishops’ conference and the White House staff ended with the President’s people informing us that the broader concerns of religious freedom — that is, revisiting the straight-jacketing mandates, or broadening the maligned exemption—are all off the table. Instead, they advised the bishops’ conference that we should listen to the “enlightened” voices of accommodation,.......
MB
Submitted by 26CX on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 10:47am.
Thank you for the link. It's appalling and indicative of the arrogance of Obama and his administration that they would tell anyone that they have no power over what the government is going to do. Cardinal Dolan is right that the best recourse for correcting this tyranny is the courts. I'm glad to see that there are law firms willing to work pro bono to help keep the people who are using the power of the government to their own ends in their proper place.
This is a fight that is for much higher stakes than is apparent, and I think we're quickly reaching a turning point where the future of the American people's protections under the Constitution are in the balance.
Well, that was refreshing
Submitted by CO2Maker on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 11:13am.
He didn't play the namby-pamby accommodation card. "Let's get it on"!
Whew.
BTW, anyone taking odds on whether the Commerce Clause is big enough to swallow the "Establishment" and "Free Exercise" clauses of the First Amendment?
I kinda think not.
Good morning MB
Submitted by cocodrie on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 11:28am.
Thank you ever so much for posting this.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
You're welcome!
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 12:16pm.
I'm glad the Church is standing firm on this.
motherbellt
Submitted by QueenMum on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 12:59pm.
Good stuff! Of course, the feminazis would claim that he has no right to speak on the issue because he's a man. Just like they prefer that a potential father have no say in regard to abortion.
“If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed." - Mark Twain
Do I hear London calling?
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 10:34am.
"ease the pressure on women to be very thin."
So sayth the people who invented the Corset.
By the way, why is it only the women who seem to be subject to the "pressure" of "unrealistic" body type portraits, like the "too skinny" models in Vogue magazine? Men, too, are portrayed by highly unrealistic body types, like you see in the the commercials for men's deodorant soap, which invariably makes all the guys look like a Grecian Olympian. We're not all body builders, you know. Where's OUR victim status?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Stop blogging
Submitted by Salamander on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 10:41am.
And exercise. It's better for you and you won't feel victimized.
Like the Total Gym?
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 11:00am.
I'm 6 foot, 135 pounds, and I have been for the last 35 years. "Exercise" isn't going to change me in Hercules, no matter what that "Total Gym" commercial says. But, hay, maybe I just need to guzzle down gallons of those high-protein sports drinks? Do you think that will help? Or should I do what our sports heroes do, and inject myself with steroids?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Yikes
Submitted by Salamander on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 11:08am.
That's thin. I would suggest foods high in protein and some strength training 2-3 times a week, maybe just 20 minutes per workout. Finish it up with a big glass of chocolate milk. As you age your bones and muscles will appreciate it. I would not suggest gimmicks or drugs, unless you don't mind your balls shrinking up.
Or just get yourself a Shake Weight and switch hands every 5 minutes while you're at the computer.
I'll stick to my method...
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 11:16am.
Thanks for the advice, but I'll stick to my method of just accepting that I've pretty much reached my ultimate body form and leave it at that. It's what my body wants to be, after all. I think my own bone, muscle, and skin tissue knows what's the best shape they should be in.
But I'm still waiting for those "experts" to ban photographs of herculean types as they are an unrealistic portrayal of the male form, like they love to do for those poor unfortunate women who are facing a constant barrage of "too skinny" models. I have to ask: just what makes them experts on what is "too skinny," or "too fat, " or "just right?"
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Answer
Submitted by Salamander on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 11:17am.
Pretty much the same as what makes me an expert in the field of exercise. Zilch. For the time being I'll keep enjoying the too skinny models in Vogue, as well as the occasional topless beauty who graces the pages - and I'll bet the women who read Vogue will keep reading, and keep enjoying the male models too.
PS
Submitted by Salamander on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 11:18am.
Hilarious that there's a KFC Chicken Pot Pie ad banner while we're having this talk.
The advantages of Ad Block Plus
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 11:27am.
I'm enjoying the advantages of Ad Block Plus. I don't see any ads. Hee hee. Sorry, Newsbusters, no possible ad revenue from me!
By the way, I've always wondered about those physical fitness "experts" and their obsession at having everyone reach the "ultimate" form, other than being paid for their advice, that is. Our bodies have been evolving for billions of years, and evolution seems to favor both fat AND skinny, as there far more "too fat" or "too skinny" people than people who are "just right," so arbitrarily assigning categories of being "too skinny" or "too fat" kinda negates the concept of evolution itself, does it not? What do those "experts" know that our own body tissue doesn't?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
I think it was Yahoo
Submitted by Salamander on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 11:36am.
Maybe it was on TV. Who can remember 2 weeks ago? There was a guy explaining the ads where people go from flabby to ripped in 6 weeks. He started with the body shave, a killer workout and oiled up. Showed us how awesome he looked. Then he ate and drank a ton of crap to make himself bloated, showered, and looked like he would at the start of the 6 week transformation...just a few hours after his miracle results.
It's a miracle, alright.
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 11:55am.
It's a miracle, alright. A miracle of self-delusion.
You know, I've often wondered about those self-proclaimed "experts" and their constant obsession with weight, especially their claims of a "cause" for things like "obesity." For example, the dubious claims that Americans, especially, are all becoming "too fat" because, supposedly, we eat too much of the "wrong" food, while, of course, exercising "too little." But I wonder if those claims are true? Is it our "sedentary lifestyles" that are to blame for this "obesity epidemic," or are we just naturally evolving this way?
Also, why is it that we can accept, shall we say, "extreme" body forms in other species, but not our own? I mean, really, when was the last time you heard someone complaining that a Hippopotamus was "too fat," or a Giraffe was "too skinny," even though both the Hippopotamus and the Giraffe has members of their species that are far skinnier, or far fatter, that the other members, just like occurs amongst humans? Why is it only humans that are subject to such "extremes" in body forms, so much so that such extremes endanger us all, both as individuals and as a society?
I guess, now that we've become such "intelligent" creatures, the experts amongst us have decided that evolution no longer applies. We are the intellectual Gods on this planet, so why not extend our godlike powers to our own physical forms, correct? The experts have deem that you're too fat, or too skinny, and they will, with or without your consent, force your body to change it's very form! You should not even question their conclusions as to the appropriateness of your existing form (and how it must be changed, for you own good, no less!), for they ARE the experts and they know a lot more about how you should look than your own genes do, right? At least that what the other experts tell us.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Anybody see David Gregory this morning? Guy was on a mission...
Submitted by krendler on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 11:24am.
...to hang Limbaugh's comment around the neck of every candidate in the race. Very first question to Gingrich to start off the show (Gingrich proceeded to $h*t down Gregory's neck for making that his lead-off question), then asked Eric Cantor why Romney hadn't repudiated Limbaugh.
Hey, David: Have you gotten around to asking why your Messiah hasn't repudiated Rev. Wright, or Bill Maher for calling Sarah Palin a C***? Not necessary in that case?
Birth Controll & Exercise
Submitted by kilrod on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 11:59am.
The Government should mandate free birthcontroll for all women; regardless of age, Faith, are sexual orientation, encourage them to have frequent sex, strait are gay, and involve as many males and females as possible, strait are gay, because sex is good exercise(burns 3000 calories per hour) and it's lots of fun, reduces stress, builds self esteem, reduces guilt, is all natural, and lets you get to know lots of people so you can be inclusive, tolerent, diverse, and multicultural......~~>! Besides it reduces the need for those messy, expensive, and inconvenient abortions.
ROFLMAO -->.<--
kilrod "the Birther"
If an unborn child cannot trust you, why should I,??
I have to Give Credit
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 12:16pm.
A friend's Marine son was on a patrol in Afghanistan a few weeks ago and he triggered an IED. It was small and poorly made so the guy behind him took the brunt of the blast. They are best friends and both survived. His friend lost both legs below the knee. Her son suffered severe brain trauma.
I have been keeping up with the progress of his friend on a Facebook page. I saw yesterday that someone had taken a picture of President Obama pinning his Purple Heart. It wasn't a professional photo, but one that a family member took.
I would have never thought of him making rounds at Walter Reed or Bethesda without making it a photo op. I must say that I respect him for doing this. I still want him out of office, but I must give him a thumbs up on this visit.
So photoshopping is OUT? (Don Lemon voice)
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 12:18pm.
What's Mooch gonna do?
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
I am glad I don't live in the
Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 1:20pm.
I am glad I don't live in the Charlotte area anymore. The place is going to be crawling with Commiecrats from now until Obama's convention. Thunder Thighs was there the other day. The messiah is going to the Freightliner plant in Mt. Holly next week to talk about jobs. He didn't do a damn thing to bring those jobs back. It was a business decision by Diamler. I bet he wouldn't be going there if it was non union.
Heard a guy on the local radio station the other day say he was going to be hiring 18 people. He wouldn't say the name of his company for fear of Gov. Dumpling running to New Bern to take credit for bringing the jobs. Everywhere in this state it has been announced that some company is coming or expanding she is running here to take credit. Makes me want to puke.
Rick
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 1:22pm.
We just heard on local news that a Phone Call Center in Greensboro was laying off 700 in anticipation of shutting down entirely later on. First thing my wife said was, "Do you suppose Bev will take credit for this too?"
Then we laughed, and then we cried.
Tell you wife not to hold her
Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 2:12pm.
Tell your wife not to hold her breathe till she does. Thank the good Lord we'll be shed of her in January. She went on MESSNBC the other night and called the political climate in NC toxic. Now who was to blame for that?
Rick, O'bowboy is going to mandate to the Freightliner plant...
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 1:49pm.
Installing smaller fuel tanks , so it doesn't, cost a THOUSAND BUCKS PER FILL UP.
And more 70's carter-isk, pump up the tires, and battery abuse.
You Didn't Build That.
You forget...
Submitted by JohnP in OK on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 1:38pm.
Liberals' rules never, never, never, ever apply to them.
Moochelle will get all the Photoshopping she needs, and the MSM will claim anyone who points it out is only pointing it out because they're racist!
Newt drop kicks Gregory
Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 12:59pm.
Newt doing only as Newt can do when Grgeory tried to bring up the Rush contreversy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPYdcT2lwPg&feature=player_embedded
Great link, Rick
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 1:38pm.
Newt slammed him and turned it all around on The Won's war on Catholics.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Excellent link Rink!!! I
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 2:13pm.
Excellent link Rink!!!
I wish the video was longer. I would have loved to see Gregorys face and heard his response.
Skinny Models
Submitted by mmilesll on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 1:15pm.
I will bet that if there were any women on this "panel" and we all know there were, they are all fat and very ugly-enough said.
Of course!
Submitted by JohnP in OK on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 1:35pm.
As Rush says, "Feminism was invented to give ugly women free access to the rest of society."
I would extend that to liberalism in general.
"government intervention would be justified"
Submitted by JohnP in OK on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 1:32pm.
When you hear those words, you know the liberals have found some brand-new excuse to impose their "superior" mentality on the rest of us.
What a pity that the self-selected "elite" can't recognize the reality that most of their ideas are miserable failures, mostly because they won't think it through to spot the unintended consequences...most of which are worse than the original "problem" they intended to "solve."
You mean like
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 1:41pm.
This government intervention clearly didn't work..
http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/16/news/companies/gm_bailout/index.htm
;)
mandrake, General Motors Will Never Repay Taxpayers
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 2:04pm.
Obama's spin on GM's latest profit report is pure baloney
But an even bigger number is $60 billion. That’s what this administration and the last one together sank into GM (not to mention another $20 billion or so they dumped into Chrysler). When President Obama gave GM this money, he insisted that it was not a handout but an “investment” that would cost taxpayers “not a dime.”
Even Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner acknowledged last month: “We’re going to lose money in the auto industry.”
You Didn't Build That.
Workers are taxpayers too.
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 2:15pm.
All those GM workers still have jobs..instead of not. So they pay taxes, no? Plus, they have money to spend on things like houses, stoves, clothes..etc that helps the economy right?
Money needs to circulate!!!
Animal farm logic, UNION workers are more equal than others.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 2:29pm.
Great house deals in Detroit....
The bigger picture is that MORE people are out of work with the 50 billion dollars, worth of wealth circulated to the incinerator and up in smoke.
You Didn't Build That.
Can't argue with that
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 2:38pm.
Clearly GM took the 50 billion dollars and burned it. Geez, if they had only found a way to recycle it back into the economy..but no THEY BURNED IT.
It's worse than that, there are no ashes, for use as fertilizer
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 3:55pm.
What part of wealth destruction don't you get?
But what exactly is so remarkable about a company coming back to life after a $65 billion taxpayer bailout, additional billions in tax breaks not available to other companies, and even an amazing "sovereign immunity" exemption for this IPO from anti-fraud securities laws and lawsuits?
The bankruptcy courts rubber-stamped a reorganization plan designed by Obama's "Team Auto" officials such as Democrat moneyman Steven Rattner that disregarded two centuries of bankruptcy precedent to massively favor the United Auto Workers over bondholders. As a result, according to several prominent business academics, the cost of capital will likely experience a significant rise for all U.S. businesses and entrepreneurs who wish to form new firms.
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/11/18/whats-good-for-gm-is-now-terri
You Didn't Build That.
I've got a complete different
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 3:12pm.
I've got a complete different take on this 'workers are taxpayers too' mentality - especially as it relates to government workers and other people who have jobs as the result of government policies or spending. Sure, they pay taxes, but WHERE is the money coming from??? If I'm out there in the work force - self-employed, working for private clients who are also self-employed or using their own hard-earned money to finance the work that I/we are doing....................and me and my subcontractors and materialmen and suppliers are paying our own employees with all of the required payroll burden, insurances, healthcare (this IS Hawaii - Nurse Ratchett's blueprint for her healthcare plan), and everything else ...............along with our own tax burden - is that the same as what the employees are paying when they are being financed by the tax dollars that are being extricated from the private sector, as well as borrowed or printed money?? I don't think so.
I've got a brother and his wife who both work for the government - career types - who are always quick to retort that they, too, pay taxes....................and they don't want to hear about my own reasoning. And they hated Bush, but LOVE Boy Barry - although they were getting their paychecks and perks on a steady basis, regardless of who was President. They have even told me in the past that I should get a government job, so that I wouldn't have to struggle so much as a private self-employed citizen. They couldn't understand why I laughed at the suggestion.................
Self-subsidized pay?
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 3:23pm.
Tell me, Mandrake, those workers who are paid by the tax payers and who, in return, pay taxes, but only a portion of what we pay them, are they subsidizing their own pay?
By the way, Mandrak, do you know what it's called when an employerer demand that a portion of their employees pay be given back? It's called a kick-back, and, outside of the various governments, of course, it's ILLEGAL! Why is the govemen exempt from their own laws?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Ah yes, the great divide.
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 3:55pm.
Now, in your view, the workers you are paid in taxpayers dollars pay a small portion back in tax dollars. The rest they store in off-shore none taxable accounts.
In my view..they spend it on housing, food, clothing..even buy cars..and thus recirulate the money back into the economy..but that's just the same as burning it right?
I realize we will never see eye-to-eye on this. So you vote, and I get to vote as well..
Your first paragraph is just
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 4:40pm.
Your first paragraph is just plain dumb, mandrake - there's no other way to describe it. Of course they spend the money and pay the taxes on it and re-circulate it..............the issue here is 'where did the money come from'??? And my own issue with it is the attitude and mentality that is created in some people who are in this position. Hell, I've never had a paid day off, much less vacation in my life.................I don't know what a 'paid sick day' is.............nobody has contributed to a 401K for me...........I've paid for my own damn health insurance, while paying for OTHER peoples, as well as paying half of their Social Security and Medicare, while paying for ALL of my own...........and on and on and on. So I don't have a lot of 'tolerance' when somebody who is on the receiving end of all of these benefits and perks and steady paychecks and the rest tries to 'cop an attitude' with me, as some have. Of course, I also understand that the majority of people do their jobs and live their lives.............but there are enough of the sanctemonious types around to keep my edge sharpened, if they want to discuss 'reality'.
And why shouldn't GM recycle their so-called 'profits' back into the general fund, as opposed to spreading them around as bonuses to (only) union workers??? And the union bosses and representatives - what do they do, anyway?? Orchestrate the skimming of money from the employer AND the employee for their own gain and power???
And I do respect that
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 5:01pm.
You sound very much like my auto mechanic friend who owns his own garage. Stuck with him for 25 years because he's so good. In the early days I heard thru the grapevine that he used to snear at me as "the professor" (behind my back). Now we just sit around and chat..even if I don't have a car problem.
See, there is away across the great divide..just treat others with respect.
I hope you're not an English
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 5:05pm.
I hope you're not an English professor, mandrake, because it's spelled 'sneer'!!!Hahahahahahahaha!!!
Nah
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 5:15pm.
I would have pumped out a syntax error. ;)
TSA (Truely Stupid A@@holes)
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 3:03pm.
I see that Big Sis Janet Incompetano and the TSA are at it again - here on my own home island!! I have been in and out of that airport many times, and I have seen these blue-uniformed dolts hanging around, en masse, making a mess out of a typically normal situation..............I have NO idea what their criteria is, based on what I've seen or experienced.
It seems that a white American woman, with a young baby, was denied access to her plane, because she had an electric breast pump and two empty bottles. They told her to fill up the bottles, and the only place she could do it was in the public bathroom, right in front of the sinks where everybody washes their hands - so she had to go in there and use the pump to fill up the bottles. Only then did they let her on!!! I guess the plane was going to be under the threat of 'white American woman with baby blows up airplane with breasts filled with milk!!!!'
You can't make this crap up.................
Premiere Radio Networks - email them
Submitted by GregE on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 5:33pm.
These people are getting slammed by the anti-Rush crap. Email them please!
http://premiereradio.com/pages/advertising.html
ClearChannel
Submitted by GregE on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 5:47pm.
publicrelations@clearchannel.com
Has anyone heard ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 5:40pm.
... if the RBFSOB has had time to make even one phone call to any victims of the tornados to see "how they are doing."
I mean, he was soooooo worried about that little Fluker who Rush bitch slapped over the radio that he called her "to see how she was doing."
Do actual disaster victims deserve at least that?
And has anyone heard where the hell FEMA is? All I hear about is the Red Cross. What? Not enough black democrats in these tornado states?
I was thinkin' (Obamaspeak)
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 6:16pm.
I was thinkin' (Obamaspeak) the same thing this morning here in Asia as I was reading the news, bubba. But, ya know, it is 'fly-over' country,and these people are mostly white, bitter-clingers, and probably didn't or won't vote for Boy Barry, so he doesn't really have any imputus to give them any support - as if he would mean it anyway!! Remember what he did(n't do) during those floods a couple years back, right???
Did you notice that he called the little Fluker while she was in the green room, waiting to go onto some MSM show??? Talk about
'coincidental', huh???
Hey - the guy is a stinky steaming pile of Kenyan Kow Krap, so there is NOTHING that he does, or doesn't do, that surprises me one bit!! The most classless, useless, worthless, futless piece of human debris EVER to be foisted upon this great nation.
Garden Isle haole, Kenyan Kow Krap, a good name for a chain
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 03/05/2012 - 12:10am.
of restaurants run by Mooooooooooichelllllle, through government edict.
Blow out special, 1/2 off.
You Didn't Build That.
Ed Schultz
Submitted by GregE on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 5:52pm.
Still on the air, after ragingly calling Laura Ingrahm a slut. Where was the Left?
And I am NOT saying he should be pulled off the air. But again, was the Left demanding it?
Hmmmm.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 6:35pm.
This is interesting after the Breitbart "heart attack."
They've had thirty years to perfect this little beauty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmoRkhwHrR4&feature=related
How Skinny Is Skinny?
Submitted by redbourn on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 7:28pm.
There is another ongoing thread about anorexic models at http://tinyurl.com/76zjv98
A skeleton that only the most desperate of men would find even slightly appealing.
Why does anything 60 Minutes reports surprise me anymore?
Submitted by nicodemus on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 8:27pm.
So, the conclusion 60 Minutes draws from Stuxnet is that it "opened up Pandora's Box" and whoever set it off should've been "strongly advised against it"??? I watched that story anticipating that they'd try to make some half-assed assertion that Stuxnet "proves" we don't need military action to stop Iran; they actually managed to come up with something immeasurably dumber.
A couple of Killa
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 9:25pm.
A couple of Killa observations about foreign affairs: One is that I just read that Boy Barry said he 'had Israel's back' with regards to Iran....................I'm wondering if that is a misprint - maybe what he really said was he's stabbed Israel in the back at any opportunity he could.
Secondly, I'm reading about this whole Putin/election thing going on in Russia........as well as what has been happening leading up to it, with all the voting contoversy and 'illegal' activities and protests and everything else - yet Putin still won, as predicted by the Russian press.And it could parrallel our own upcoming elections in many ways - especially if it looks like Boy Barry might actually lose. A lot of us have had this idea allready, but now that we can watch it happening in a place like Russia - which, politically, may not be much different than our own jaded system (combined with the StateRun Media and the rest of the nefarious
activities that go on during elections) - it becomes a little more believable that something similiar could happen here.
Killa
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 9:28pm.
I've been thinking the same thing about the Russian election and ours. After all, Obama keeps saying he's got five more years, not "I hope to have five more years". He seems to know what the outcome will be.
Yes, Ms. Rad - he sits there
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 10:04pm.
Yes, Ms. Rad - he sits there , legs crossed better than you can do it yourself, with a 'smug' grin on his stupid purple lips,and says he's got 5 more years in the White House.................and the dolts sitting across from him don't call him out on it, or question it, or even ask him to elaborate on it..................in fact, I think it just becomes part of their reporting, as per instructions from the REGIME.
I wonder if we'll be getting any topless protests if Barry manages to steal the next election???
EX Pat Anyone?
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 9:42pm.
I'm bored.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Re: Ex-pat?
Submitted by NevadanConservative on Mon, 03/05/2012 - 5:28am.
Your pardon, ma'am, but I am shrewdly out of caffeine at the moment, and it has been a while since I posted in here.
If by "Ex-Pat" you are referring to 'expatriate'....we well may not have a choice about whether we are or not come November. A second fecal helping of BHO will pretty much finish a United States and morph it into a North American Socialist Union, or whatever that individual and his cronies decide to rename us.
In other parts of the net ( not mentioned here as I do not have their permission ) there seems to be a lot of to-do about, of all things, secession and/or balkanization. That would, I suppose, make the folks that live in the seceded or breakaaway areas expatriates as well. For me, I'm of mixed feeling on the matter. A last refuge for freedom lovers, while BHO has the Washingtom Monument carved into his likeness, the Statue of Liberty smelted into penny blanks, etc., does have appeal... briefly.
I have stated before in this site and will repeat myself here again; I have absolutely no doubt that BHO would order weapons of mass destruction, up to and including chemical and nuclear weapons, on American citizens if he thought it was to his advantage. Some breakaway state or states' largest city under a mushroom cloud would spell out to anyone else contemplating taking a similar plunge, in big glow in the dark craterglass letters, the consequences.
For myself, I'm stuck in a newly redistricted Nevada, inside of one of the bluest congressional districts outside of California. I have not the means to run ot a new refuge, and think I may do my best work in my own fashion here.
So, it is not likely I will be an expatriate.
NVCON
I guess Canadian oil isn't foreign
Submitted by Unsane on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 2:03pm.
A candidate for Texas Railroad Commission (whose name escapes me) is campaigning to reduce "our reliance on foreign oil" while at the same time firmly backing the Keystone pipeline project.
Has anyone told the guy where the oil in that pipeline is coming from?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)