Open Thread: Some Good News for Religious Liberty
Some good news as our starter topic today: The Supreme Court ruled that churches have the right to hire and fire whoever they wish, contrary to the Obama administration which was trying to apply standard employment law to churches:
Religious organizations won a landmark victory Wednesday as the Supreme Court held that churches have the right to make employment decisions free from government interference over discrimination laws.
In a 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court endorsed for the first time the “ministerial exception” to state and federal employment discrimination laws while rejecting the Obama administration’s argument that churches should be treated no differently than other employers. [...]
“When a minister who has been fired sues her church alleging that her termination was discriminatory, the First Amendment has struck the balance for us,” Chief Justice Roberts said. “The church must be free to choose those who will guide it on its way.”
Allowing former employees to file anti-discrimination lawsuits “could end up forcing churches to take religious leaders they no longer want,” he said. [...]
The case, Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church and School v. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, centered on a former teacher, Cheryl Perich, who argued that she was fired from the Missouri Synod Lutheran school in violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act.
Roberts is correct, of course, since it is possible that someone could use anti-discrimination lawsuits to be allowed back into a ministerial job, despite his/her no longer sharing the same beliefs as the congregation. No wonder Obama hates SCOTUS so much.
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Buffet's challange
Submitted by billb on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 12:20pm.
Every day that goes by convinces me that our republican candidates get more stupid! Republicans for the past two days have been confronted by the media (or as I call them "Obama Occupiers") about Buffet's challenge to Republicans to contribute money to solve the debt problem. Wouldn't the obvious question be, "What about the democrats?" GEEEZ!
That's a problem, billb.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 12:38pm.
The Democrats who have money got most of it FROM the taxpayers to begin with, (think Solyndra) so them giving it back while still collecting "new money" ain't going to help.
The real reason is that the
Submitted by billb on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 12:56pm.
The real reason is that the democrats have already "paid their fair share!"
I read that Solyndra wants to
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 1:49pm.
I read that Solyndra wants to give out bonuses.........................I don't think they could be called 'performance bonuses', but I could be wrong - given the 'new' definitions of a lot of words these days.
Seeking more religious liberty in public schools....
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 12:45pm.
for Muslims at least.
I commented on this a few weeks ago, when I heard it on a local radio station, but here is the story the Harrisburg Patriot News had on the front of their local section a couple of days ago.
Concern over Muslim Prayer in West Shore Schools
As they seek to accommodate Muslims,
Two howlers:
Argot said school policy “neither prohibits nor promotes student expression of personal religious beliefs.”
and
“If they can accommodate without imposing a burden, schools are willing to do that,”
<Chris Matthews imitation> HA!
When was the last time any public school made ANY attempt to "accommodate" Christians??
We need to start a pool.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 12:43pm.
Since Homeland Security (if there was ever a misnomer, that is it) is now reported to be monitoring blogs like this one, if we can believe the report on Drudge, we need to start a pool and pick which blogger will be busted first for saying something unkind about the RBFSOB and his regime.
I'm going with Killa for a $1.00.
I'll put $5 on Dave
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 12:47pm.
Although Killa's a good bet, what with him living in Asia and all.
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My bad!
Submitted by Newsbubba on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 12:51pm.
I forgot that Killa was an Asian! I need to cut back on Happy Hour. I'm obviously thinning the buffalo herd too fast.
Maybe I'll stay with him anyway, since one of Bambi's biggest allies will soon be the Chinese.
Among others...
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 1:34pm.
The Chinese, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Iranians...well, anyone with an ax to grind against the United States...
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Another newly minted Asian
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 1:32pm.
upcountrywater is likewise not safe, he being Asian like killa.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Unsane, Here I thought my Squinting due to excessive VOG
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 6:27pm.
May pass through an Ahab Spring, before losing my home and private property.
Ouansafi is best known as the progenitor of Hawaii Islam Day. By misrepresenting the foundation date of his own religion, Ouansafi conned the 2009 Hawaii Legislature into passing a resolution designating September 24, 2009 as Islam Day in Hawaii. He did this by falsely claiming a Julian date in the year 622 was actually a Gregorian date. September 24, 2009 just happens to be September 11, 2009 in the old Julian Calendar.
Give that man a job... yea it's in government.
Lots to do before the next moslem day, have a shoe drive! mah
VOG is organic smog.
"Private Property" is one of the top word searches for Big Sis.
You Didn't Build That.
Shahinshahmas
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 6:45pm.
Isn't August 4 a state holiday in HI? You know, for the day our Shahinshah was found in his manger there...
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Uns---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 7:26pm.
I believe that was the day the Shahinshah was found to be mangy.
Put me in that 'bad-mouth Obama" pool, and I shall win it by providing gratis shots at the Wookie.
MD
Well, my Mom's birthday is on
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 8:34pm.
Well, my Mom's birthday is on the 4th of August, and she would slap you silly if you happened to say 'oooohhh, that's President Obama's birthday'!!! I actually saw her disdain my own liberal brother (her own son!!!) by looking at him as if he were the AIDS virus when he said that to her!!! Needless to say, he never brought it up again!!!
Yup, smack dab between two hospitals.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 9:21pm.
Festivities this year will be centered around the Kilauea vent. A top-secret mad hatter event with virgin toss into the swirling lava.
You Didn't Build That.
Wo wo wo wo wo!!! You 'folks'
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 1:46pm.
Wo wo wo wo wo!!! You 'folks' are over here on this thread, using my name in vain??? I'm gonna call Janet Incompetano and sing like a parakeet!!! I've got the dirt (or 'doit', as the bluesmen like to pronounce it) on all of you!!! Plus, I'm pretty offended that I'm only worth a measly dollar bill - with a photo of that white slave-owner, George Washington, on it!!! The least you could do is pony up an Obama 3-dollar bill, with a photo of our 'historic first black president' on the front side, a reproduction of the Obama flag on the back, and inscribed with 'In Barack We Trust', with a Latin phrase that means 'I came, I Saw, I Transformed'.
As long as they don't monitor
Submitted by bkeyser on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 1:54pm.
Flickr...
You may be safe, BK
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 2:04pm.
FOR NOW.
But you have been published overseas on the UK Daily Mail.....maybe that will make you a subversive who conspires with our enemies...enjoy your stay in Gitmo. Save me a room with a view, please.
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A room?
Submitted by UpNorth on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 2:49pm.
Can't we get BK to save a wing for us? And, as long as the jailers are going with cultural sensitive diets, I want hot dogs, hamburgs, pizza and beer.
Blonde,
Submitted by Agnostic on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 3:38pm.
Did you see your 'homegrown' terrorist up in Tampa wasn't very stealthy - Part of a 'You Tube Jihad'.
Wow
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 4:43pm.
And that stuff just sits there on YouTube? I'm floored.
Thanks for the link, Agnostic, I had no idea.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Flickered
Submitted by jon_torlin on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 2:52pm.
I think they are monitoring flickr as well.
That's under the "multimedia" section of the ones listed.....including Youtube.
flickr and others
-Jon
Bye bye BK
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 4:39pm.
Off to the re-education camps with you.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
slim chance here
Submitted by jon_torlin on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 8:08pm.
This might be a slim chance here, but what if he made pro-soetoro pictures?
GAK! I just kinda gagged when I thought that.
-Jon
Pessimism
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 12:54pm.
I commented a few days ago that my pessimism regarding this election was at an all-time low. This morning I read something at Fellowship of the Minds that puts that feeling into words.
The Dark Cloud That Hangs Over Our Country
Money Quote:
With the election later this year I don’t really see a candidate on our side that is any better than McCain was in 2008, they are just saying what they think we want to hear and backbiting each other instead of taking the fight to the real enemy, Barack Obama. I fear that even if one of them did win in November it would not be much different than if Obama won.
Amen Motherbelt
Submitted by vrwc13 on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 1:13pm.
From your link:
How do we go from mourning the death of over 3000 of our citizens by radical muslims to embracing a cult that preaches death to America and death to non-believers. Evil has truly settled over our nation, and three years ago evil took up residency in the White House in the form of Barack Obama, a non-qualified radical socialist with ties to domestic terrorists, a racist hate spewing pastor and the corrupt criminal Chicago political machine. And we can only guess at most of Obama’s background dating back to his college and university days since those records have been sealed.
...'noug said
v
The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne
depressed recently!
Submitted by Agnostic on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 3:08pm.
I am really surprised that not one single GOP candidate has promised or at least made reference to enhancing the NYC skyline to be greater than when we were attacked.
The politicians have forgotten 9-11, they have forgotten the people and soldiers who died, they have forgotten the American people and they have forgotten that service of our nation is about its people and our Constitution - not their egos, bank accounts or their ideology.
If politics and prostitution are the two oldest professions - there is only one left with any honesty.
I am tired of all this cr*p...
Submitted by vrwc13 on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 1:06pm.
Why are we even in this position where a nation which claims to be 75% Christian then why are we:
And as it relates to the current nomination for the GOP presidential candidate, I would expect that the portion of Republicans whom are Christian would be 75% of greater, why are we:
Let's just get this straight folks, if you are a Christian, start acting like one, start voting like one or stop claiming to be one. Or this country as we have known it is going to crumble.
...maybe it just needs to come down to this, a bit more 'tebowing' for all of us called by His name:
if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. - NIV
The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne
Agreed!
Submitted by Soldat44 on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 3:12pm.
Agreed!
Welcome to the US
Submitted by celator on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 1:24pm.
Welcome to the US Constitution, Obama. Oh, we know you don't think it's much of a legal document, and that this separation of church and state thing is very confusing to you and your Justice Department. But the US Constitution is something you should become much more familiar with. It's a darn good read, and you might learn a lot about the American Idea by reading it. Check with your legal department. They might have a copy of it somewhere. Maybe under the picture of Che in the corridor.
How to find the Constitution in the Justice Dept
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 6:46pm.
I think they might have it on 2-ply soft tissue, perforated and placed on rolls in the men's room there.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Not much good news on the retail front
Submitted by bkeyser on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 1:35pm.
So, Black Friday was supposed to be a record-breaker. Consumer confidence is up. Great holiday shopping season; according to the preliminary reports. Then today we hear first time unemployment application rose substantially to 399k from an upwardly revised 375k, and the holiday shopping season was a bust:
So much for the forecasts of a holiday recovery. I don't expect this news will get much play on the networks tonight. You'd think these propagandists would learn that putting out these bogus projections based on little or no evidence would come back to bite them later on. There's just nothing for them to grab ahold of and yet there they all were, trumpeting some fantasy economic turnaround. Sad.
Funny hashtag on Twitter
Submitted by bkeyser on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 1:45pm.
Don't know how many of you "tweet" (I do, occasionally) but I've come to really like the medium for all sorts of things including breaking news items and the just fantastic wit exhibited by so many people. An example is in the hashtag #TGMTDWS. Like most hashtags, I had to look it up to see what it meant; in this case "The guy married to Debbie Wasserman-Schultz".
An example from @iowahawkblog:
Too funny.
What?
Submitted by Janey on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 2:35pm.
I'm sorry, but I don't see how this is a victory for religious liberty. I could understand if the reason for firing was something doctrinal, but this woman has an illness. Question: What's worse than suddenly finding yourself sick with narcolepsy? Answer: Suddenly finding yourself sick with narcolepsy and out of work.
Aren't churches supposed to be compassionate? Americans with Disabilities Act aside, wouldn't (shouldn't) a church go out of its way to accomodate a person stricken with a disease like this?
...ah sorry but this is all about separation of church & state
Submitted by vrwc13 on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 2:47pm.
...not one particular case.
Imagine the 'state' mandate that an all black church must appoint a white to their elder board.
...or a Jewish synagogue must accept a Muslim into their leadership or vice versa.
v
The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne
Absolutely...
Submitted by Janey on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 3:35pm.
As I said in my post, "I could understand if the reason for firing was something doctrinal".
Okay...upon further consideration (and with a little help from vrwd13 and UpNorth) I see that it is a good thing that the decision was in favor of churches being exempt from government interference.
I just hate the fact that the case in question involves a person suffering from an illness.
Janey, did you read the lead in to this story?
Submitted by UpNorth on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 2:53pm.
I think the following explains the decision adequately, "the Supreme Court held that churches have the right to make employment decisions free from government interference over discrimination laws". Simple concept, keep the government out of churches.
more bad publicity for the USA
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 4:57pm.
This story about urinating on Taliban corpses is going to get lots of mileage from the msm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/9011075/US-de...
Do ya think?
Submitted by UpNorth on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 7:00pm.
While not covering much of anything the Taliban does, the LSM will run with this.
When Abu Grhaib erupted, it was decried as a "failure of leadership" on the part of President Bush. Will that same media now bitch-slap Obama for his "failure of leadership"?
That said, this isn't the first time this has ever been done. Doing it, and videoing it, is just dumb.
yea shawn worser than
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 7:26pm.
this
Hold your horses, there's ah democrat president, now.
Bowboybama will cut the military some more just to get even.
You Didn't Build That.
nine to nothing ruling?
Submitted by lrgon on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 5:50pm.
To shift the prism of "news" from "so-what if they killed an Iranian nuclear scientist" to: is this an attempt to use assassination like in WWI to start a war? And quo bono?
CNN anchor Lou Dobbs noted long before he became a target of pro-amnesty creeps and pro-NAFTA allies, reported that the U.S. government was funding an institute in Russia that was helping Tehran develop its nuclear capabilities.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4lB1Y4ZwfU
Who is behind the assassinations? Some analysts said the assassination may be the work of the Marxist terror group known as Mujahedeen-e Khalq (MEK), which aims to overthrow the Iranian government. Despite being listed by the U.S. State Department as a terrorist organization, the group continues to receive open and covert support from Western powers and influential leaders.
Top Israeli officials (Mossad chief Tamir Pardo) have stated unequivocally that a nuclear-armed Iran would not pose any sort of “existential threat” to the Jewish state. Israel has hundreds in their deterrence arsenal. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/29/israeli-spy-chief-downpl...
For the shrieking Paul worshipping Conspiro
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 6:52pm.
Lou Dobbs was a shrieking populist and Conspiro, much like you. And like you, he lives in COMPLETE, TOTAL FEAR of the fact that there are more countries in the world than the United States.
And in your last paragraph, you show your intense hatred of Israel. Hundreds of nuclear weapons? I'd LOVE to know how we know that. There is nothing in the world that the one country you hate more than any other in the world (except the United States) keeps more secret than its nuclear program.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Lrgon, What part don't you like about, reverse terrorism?
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 7:13pm.
I like the high tech magnet part, you know where they can do it again, and not go up in smoke, like the hadji purists.
Forget did ya, iran declared WAR on the USA in 1979...
That iran scientist was more of a purchasing agent, than anything else.
That's right, I need a left threaded doo hickey, two gross of them.
I wondering what the password(s) is to his bank accounts?
With the cannibalizing of the "stealth" drone, maybe they ran across a computer with some multi-channel precise timing mechanisms, a software app , voila good to go nuke....
You Didn't Build That.
Former Vice-President Gloom and Doom is at it again...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 6:12pm.
Doesn't Algore know when to quit???
http://www.breitbart.tv/al-gore-global-warming-not-being-campaign-issue-...
http://nation.foxnews.com/al-gore/2012/01/12/al-gore-civilization-risk-i...
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
No more property taxes for the Flickertail state
Submitted by lrgon on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 6:42pm.
This June, residents of North Dakota will vote on a primary ballot measure which, if approved by voters, would eliminate local property taxes, retroactive as of January 1, 2012.
There could be no better place than North Dakota — which has the lowest unemployment rate in the country and a thriving energy-based economy — to attempt this unprecedented experiment in government by the people.
Charlene Nelson of Empower the Taxpayer is one of the driving forces behind Measure #2. to end property taxes. She got busy getting hep rounding up 30,000 signatures needed to get the property tax proposal on a statewide ballot.
She homeschools too. But what are her reasons to take on "city hall,or the State capitol on property taxes that do so much good like paying for puvblic schools?
Her answers are illuminating:
"When we look at where we should start cutting (or eliminating) taxes, we should look first to the more harmful taxes. Property taxes are the most harmful because:
1- They are not connected to a person's ability to pay.
2- They punish homeowners for investing in their neighborhood and so encourage blight.
3-They are the most expensive tax to administer. In North Dakota the cost of assessing, collecting, and administering the property tax is around $50 million. That's roughly nine percent of what's collected.
4- They are a tool used by the power elite to benefit a chosen minority (new businesses, new commercial or residential developments, some of the poor or elderly) at the expense of all the other homeowners.
5- They discourage new business, especially capital-intensive industry, which provides long-term economic stability and high wages.
6- They are a hidden tax which everyone bears, but few are aware of. This allows governments to increase spending (and thus the property tax) with little reaction from the voting public.
And I believe they are immoral for the reason you first mentioned. In reducing the citizen to little more than a serf, we turn the entire relationship between the citizen and his state on its head, putting the citizen at the mercy of governments and the special interests that drive government budgets."
Property taxes according to Bill Stiering >> http://empowerthetaxpayer.blogspot.com/
Washington, I think you're going to have a problem!
Seriously...
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 6:54pm.
Is it going to kill you to come up with an original idea all by yourself or are you that hopelessly addicted to plagiarism?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Hey sport, I live in North Dakota, and if this measure....
Submitted by PrairieSky on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 7:18pm.
is approved it will be a mess for this state. It sounds great on paper, but in practice it will be a mess in a number of ways. How do you propose that schools be funded if there are no more property taxes? That is where the majority of the funding for schools comes from here...If this were to pass, the funding for our schools would be controlled and decided by our state legislature, which only meets every two years. There would be no more local control or say in funding for our schools. Every school district in the state would have to go hat in hand to the legislature for the funding for their schools...What if an important financial issue were to come up during a year that the legislature is not in session? They would have to wait till the next session to have their issue/problem addressed.
And for your information, North Dakota's economy is NOT energy based...It is agriculture based. We do have an oil boom right now, but it does not dominate our economy. And if it's okay with you, as a resident of this state, I do not want "...this unprecedented experiment in government by the people" to take place in my state or my town, where we are in the beginning stages of recovering from an historic and devastating flood that happened here last summer. If you want to "experiment" with something this crucial and important, do it in your state...Not in mine.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
PrairieSky, A good friend of mine got a job there, fracking, lol
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 7:53pm.
Gets to drive 640 miles each way to home and family. Kinds of slow when in whiteout conditions....
America can fix some trade issues...export more gasoline....
No pipeline, however more train car tankers. That happed way back in the oil boom days of yesteryear.
And today... Woah Grand Junction, Colorado. @ 6:06 Winning The Future
You Didn't Build That.
Yep, I've seen that clip about Williston...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 8:00pm.
Williston is about 2 hours west of where I am, in Minot. It's interesting up here right now with this oil boom....there's good and bad with it. And 640 miles is a long way from family, but the jobs up here pay very well. It's hard work, and our climate is anything but hospitable in the winter (althought this winter has been very mild and very dry), but the pay associated with the oil field jobs is attracting many from out of state.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Why not Minot?
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 8:12pm.
PrairieSky, I hear that Minot is a great place for bachelors such as myself, because there's a pretty girl behind every tree in Minot. Is that true?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
If that's true, will they
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 8:39pm.
If that's true, will they hire an over the hill surfer/musician/blue collar worker like me??? I can dangle the 'Hawaii carrot' in front of some pretty girl..............it might work!!!
Um, let's not get crude guys!
Submitted by PrairieSky on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 8:55pm.
There are ladies on this site, like me for example!
One downside to coming up here to work right now is the housing situation....Housing is in short supply, pretty much around the entire third of the state where the oil boom is, so that is a consideration for those coming here.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
I wasn't being crude, was I,
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 01/13/2012 - 3:00pm.
I wasn't being crude, was I, Ms. Prarie??? I was being enthusiastic!!! I adore women - I think they are one of God's greatest creations.........................just don't start talking about Moooooooochelle, or Nurse Ratchett, or Ms. Botox, and a few others that I know about - I like to keep my opinion on the positive side.
LOL!! Well, yeah, I agree with that, Unsane...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 8:48pm.
Now, I am a woman myself, but speaking as a woman, I think that our young ladies and women are quite attractive up here!
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Property taxes are a hidden tax?
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 7:26pm.
Only to idiots. Property taxes are always a BIG deal where I live, I'd say everyone is aware of them. Your comment about not being related to the ability of someone to pay is like saying an electric bill isn't related to someone's ability to pay. When purchasing real estate the property taxes are always included in the listing, and school districts vie to have not only high achievement, but low property taxes.
I'm not a fan of any taxes, but we DO need to pay for things like schools.
When you cry, make sure it is sincere or
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 01/12/2012 - 10:36pm.
.................Spend the rest of your life in jail.
This is just really cool
Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 01/13/2012 - 1:04pm.
A satellite "census" of the forest lands in the United States.
There are a couple of stunning pictures....this country is SO beautiful!
Enjoy.
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Thanks Blonde - makes me want to break out in song...
Submitted by vrwc13 on Fri, 01/13/2012 - 1:55pm.
America the Beautiful
O beautiful for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!
America! America!
God shed His grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!
O beautiful for pilgrim feet
Whose stern impassion'd stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness
America! America!
God mend thine ev'ry flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law.
O beautiful for heroes prov'd
In liberating strife,
Who more than self their country lov'd,
And mercy more than life.
America! America!
May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness,
And ev'ry gain divine.
O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears.
America! America!
God shed His grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea.
The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne
Dark clouds in the Sunshine state?
Submitted by Agnostic on Fri, 01/13/2012 - 2:06pm.
This article from NRO seems to spell doom for the GOP in Florida. It is difficult to imagine overcoming Florida going DNC again for any candidate much less a less-than-inspiring-candidate.
Wondering if anyone has additional input - hopefully optimistic!
Obama implies he is both irresponsible and unpatriotic...
Submitted by vrwc13 on Fri, 01/13/2012 - 2:51pm.
...of course it goes back to blaming Bush.
Obama Called Smaller Bush Debt Rise “Unpatriotic” h/t Drudge
(Got to watch the video in the above article to hear it in his own words.)
And he has actually worsened the deficit with a feckless $800 billion stimulus bill and a new $1 trillion health care entitlement.
So this is not the Bush deficit. It is the Obama deficit, and it’s threatening to ruin the country.
This should make great debate points for whomever is running against The Won.
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