Open Thread Tuesday
Today we have two topics for you on OT. The first is that today is the New Hampshire primary in the Republican presidential race. All reports indicate that Mitt Romney will be a big winner in the state. Fellow candidate Jon Huntsman has bet the farm on the small Northeastern state. Will he drop out if he doesn't do well? Will we see any other dropouts or does New Hampshire just not matter very much in this presidential cycle?
The second topic for today is yet another example of how liberals don't practice what they preach. Big-time Obama supporters Beyonce Knowles and Shawn "Jay-Z" Carter" apparently rented an entire hospital floor in New York City and then had the gall to deny other parents in the hospital the ability to see their own children:
The couple were visiting their twin daughters in the neonatal intensive care unit at Lenox Hill Hospital in Manhattan on Friday night, as they have done daily since the babies’ premature birth on Dec. 28. But when they tried to leave the sixth-floor unit to go home to Brooklyn at about 11 p.m., the new mother, Rozz Nash-Coulon, recalled, a burly security guard suddenly blocked their way.
The familiar area outside the neonatal unit had been transformed: partitions had been put up, the maternity ward windows were completely covered, and even the hospitals’ security cameras had been taped over with paper. Guards with Secret Service-style earpieces roamed the floor.
“We were told we could walk no further,” Ms. Nash-Coulon said Monday. And when she and her husband, Neil, demanded an explanation, she added, the guard claimed, unconvincingly, “ ‘Well, they’re handling hazardous materials,’ ” even as a large group of people screened from view were passing through the main hallway he had declared off-limits.
It was just the first of a series of indignities that they and several other noncelebrity maternity patients say they experienced over the weekend, as Lenox Hill Hospital went all-out to protect the privacy of Beyoncé Knowles and Jay-Z, whose daughter, Blue Ivy Carter, was born there on Saturday.
At one point, another father, Edgar Ramirez, 25, said, security guards kept him out of the neonatal unit for three hours while his wife and newborn were waiting for him. At another point on Saturday, a guard declared that “the floor is on lockdown,” Ms. Nash-Coulon said, and told her that if she left the neonatal unit, she would not be allowed back in to see her babies.
“It was just really disgusting,” said Ms. Nash-Coulon, 38, who is still recovering from her C-section, while one of her twins remains in the hospital. “We really believe the hospital is culpable in this because they didn’t let us know what was happening. And the security of our children is at risk when you cover security cameras.”
One would think that individuals who supposedly believe in "the people" wouldn't indulge in this type of wanton behavior but then again, we are talking about rich liberal celebrities. What are your thoughts?
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I'm sure Beyonce and her
Submitted by motherbelt on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 10:49am.
I'm sure Beyonce and her husband "totally sympathize" with the 99% though.
We really believe the hospital is culpable in this because they didn’t let us know what was happening.
Uh, no, the hospital is culpable for submitting to the demands of a pair of self-absorbed, egotistical celebrities. It has nothing to do with whether they let people know what was going on.
The duo should have been told if they wanted a whole floor, they should go to a hotel and bring in their own medical team. Period.
Is he really
Submitted by misterbee241 on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 1:51pm.
her husband or just the baby daddy? I cant keep'em straight any more.
Exactly, mb...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 2:10pm.
Beyonce and her idiot husband are both spoiled, self-absorbed infants....that is a fact. But I also believe the hospital is primarily the one at fault here for allowing this bs in the first place. As you perfectly said, these two fools should have been told that if they wanted a set up at the hospital like the one they apparently demanded, they should have been told to go to a hotel, or remain at home, and bring in their own doctors/nurses/equipment, etc. This is just asinine in the extreme.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Does this give credibility to the 99% arguement?
Submitted by vrwc13 on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 2:20pm.
Does this give credibility to the 99% arguement?
v
The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne
Not certain what you mean...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 3:29pm.
But if I understand what I think you meant, then yes, in a way it may, at least in this case. Now that Beyonce and her husband are firmly members of the 1% that the Occupy movement loves to demonize, and as mb mentioned above, I wonder how sympathetic they are to the concerns and outrage raised by other patients and their families, who are likely members of the 99%, who were thoughtlessly and carelessly incovenienced by their demands and by Lenox Hill Hospital who caved into those unreasonable and asinine demands.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
⇒ Can't make this stuff up
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 10:52am.
Why is Greece going down the tubes?
Because kleptomania and child-diddling are ,recognized disabilities qualifying for monthly government allotment, maybe?
I wonder how the Germans feel about paying out on these "disabilities?
Must Rest from Yesterday's Busy Day
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:11am.
President Obama's Daily Schedule:
No public schedule.
Guess he had to rest up from that PDB and meeting the Mavericks yesterday, before flying off to a fundraiser.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Yeah
Submitted by ricklail on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:16pm.
Shaking hands with the maybe 30 coaches, players and staff of the Mavericks was tough work.
My guess is Obama is
Submitted by stratman on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 10:13pm.
My guess is Obama is celebrating Milad Un Nabi (birthday Of The Prophet Muhammad) early, just like he did with Hanukah. Or it could be Disney is coming out with a new movie this summer and Obama gets another Johnny Depp dress up party like before with Alice In Wonderland.
Republicans threaten the "very core of what this country stands
Submitted by vrwc13 on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:25am.
And the president warned that Republicans threaten the "very core of what this country stands for."
"The very core of what this country stands for is on the line -- the basic promise that no matter what you look like, no matter where you come from, this is a place where you could make it if you try. The notion that we're all in this together, that we look out for one another -- that's at stake in this election. Don't take my word for it. Watch some of these debates that have been going on up in New Hampshire."
...hmm what is it called when you are doing the very thing you claim the others will do?
v
The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne
PROJECTION!
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:28am.
...oh sorry... was that a rhetorical question?
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
Their American Dream
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:39am.
the basic promise that no matter what you look like, no matter where you come from, this is a place where you could make it if you try.
I don't know any Democrats today that believe this. They seem to want a cross-country safety net, with no trapeze.
this is a place where you could make it if you try
Submitted by vrwc13 on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:54am.
"...this is a place where you could make it if you try."
I think he is referring to, with a wink, illegal aliens.
Oops, i mean undocumented aliens, um, undocumented entry, ahh, forgot to sign in visitors, oh yeah, 'voters'.
v
The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne
Fuhgeddit!
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 11:49am.
If anyone, a large number of people even, believes this crap, then they are the more fool they than that "fool" that continues to lead them on with the constant lies after all this time.
So like the Republicans threatening(the dems are really) everything we hold dear, the Republicans are also racists, anti-business, anti-everything(nice blanket statement there since there are so many) and so on.
God this makes my head hurt.
-Jon
The Kenyan Muslim commie fraud has no idea what America...
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 1:25pm.
...actually stands for.
You have to be a real American to understand that, and he ain't one.
Not even close.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Kenyan Muslim commie fraud
Submitted by vrwc13 on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 1:36pm.
Kenyan Muslim commie fraud
Well, that hits the nail on the head.
v
The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne
Those are the words of a
Submitted by Boudin on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 10:24pm.
Commie dictator, in the very mold of a Castro or Chaves. Remember, socialism is for the people, not the socialist! This Obama dude, is as ruthless as he is a liar.
Anyone see the Chris Christie heckler incident
Submitted by bkeyser on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:21pm.
in New Hampshire the other day? I can't find a video, so here's the rundown from NRO:
Pretty innocuous, and Christie handled it smartly.
Well, Slate was offended. Here's their take. Warning- you need to dumb down to comprehend they're reasoning.
Yep....liberal pretzel logic
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 1:58pm.
I had to read it through to "going down" was specifically pointed out to figure out what on earth they were trying to say. Idiots.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Yep
Submitted by bkeyser on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 2:48pm.
Toldja you'd have to dumb down to understand Slate. lol
NH matters, but SC
Submitted by Bodini on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:26pm.
NH matters, but SC is the better barometer for how strong the Mitt love-fest is. FL's broad-based voter demographics are probably a better representation of the nation as a whole and I think it will be the real metric for how the conservatives will fare in the 2012 elections.
Jay-ZZZZZZZZZZ and B are just following the "leadership-by-example" rules established by BO and MO! I'm sure they aren't worried about baby-Blue's future either. They'll get a pass from the Marxist-media and their OWS Demwits because these 1%ers are "down for the struggle."
I saw a report linked from my local station
Submitted by UpNorth on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 1:05pm.
to NBC on this. The "correspondent" said they paid $1.2 million to "rent" the entire floor, like anyone would do this. What's the big deal, everyone would pay $1.2 mill to have the place locked down, right?
How can someone rent a
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 3:37pm.
How can someone rent a hospital floor? I mean I went to one last night to visit my sis in law and it was packed and the ER was packed. So how can the hospital ethically do something like this?
Wealthy Arabs have rented out
Submitted by stratman on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 10:17pm.
Wealthy Arabs have rented out whole floors in the hospital and neighboring hotel at the Cleveland Clinic in Cleveland, Ohio.
I'll tell ya one thing
Submitted by misterbee241 on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 1:50pm.
it would take more than a rent a cop to stop me from seeing my child.
misterbee241
Submitted by Agnostic on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 2:23pm.
You absolutely right on that one. But in slight defense of the starlets - when my daughter was born they could have put the entire city under marshal law and I wouldn't have paid attention.
How much of this was butt kissing by the hospital? Did the celebrity parents even know what was going on?
Hmmm...
Submitted by retrocon on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 2:56pm.
well, time to let the hospital know that they have other customers.
Sue for denial of service. They, or their insurance, are paying for the hospital stay, too.
Hey, if it was me, i would have walked through the security guards, on the grounds that i, too, am a paying customer.
Or are we really, finally at the Farm... where "some people are more equal than others?"
LSU-BAMA
Submitted by ricklail on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 2:59pm.
Well that was a whole lot of nothing. I thought deep down it would wind up as a blowout for LSU. I'm glad i am not listening to Paul Finbaum. All i'd heard would be, Roll Damn Tide
Newt's inner liberal has been surfacing over the last few days
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 3:16pm.
He's toast among true conservatives.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Yeah I was listening to Rush
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 3:42pm.
Yeah I was listening to Rush and heard he made a doozy. I am just down about all of em now. Maybe we ought to put in Ron Paul?
Ron Paul actually "gets it" on the domestic side...
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 8:00pm.
...it's his total ignorance of the realities of the Islamists that concern me - especially given the conflagration that part of the world appears to be heading for.
I caught Newt on a couple of news shows, and I was aghast at what I was hearing.
How does he think he can beat Obama by being Obama?
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Yep, he sure is...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 3:56pm.
Gingrich has been toast with me for quite awhile. Now, I just wish he'd shut up and go away...He's brimming with negativity and nastiness as well, and is not helping the Republicans in this election.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Unless Huntsman does better than expected...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 3:41pm.
I don't see him continuing after NH....He's put all his eggs in that basket, and there's nothing for him in SC (or anywhere else). Santorum will definitely continue onto SC, since he's spent so much time there already...After that though, we'll have to see what happens to Santorum. No matter how well or poorly Paul does today, he'll carry on to the bitter end of all of this, just because he's Ron Paul and he has delusions of grandeur, and believes he's on some sort of political crusade. Gingrich will continue, if only so he can go on trashing and trying to destroy Romney, which seems to be his primary goal anymore. And Romney will win NH, but possibly by not as large a margin as he had earlier on.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
America's slide into the Dear Ruler's Amerika is accelerating
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 10:58pm.
And that very rapidly.
-Dave
(h/t: boortz.com)
Vote for the American in November
Sometimes a lion
Submitted by bkeyser on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 6:10pm.
is just a lion. Ooof.
look like Mr Bozell will be happy
Submitted by shawn. on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 8:04pm.
Supreme court will not relax indecency rules
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2012/01/indecency-tv-supreme-c...
Good
Submitted by stratman on Tue, 01/10/2012 - 10:20pm.
Good