Open Thread: Labor Unrest at the New York Times?
In what could become a major battle between several newspaper unions and the New York Times, according to the New York Post, the Communications Workers of America has already earmarked $350,000 to put towards the conflict that could arise.
The Newspaper Guild and the Mailers Union Local 6 have both been without contracts since March 31. Both of these unions sent letters in October to Arthur Sulzberger Jr., the chairman and publisher of the Times, and Janet Robinson, then-president and CEO. The letters explained that given the Times' current financial situation, there is a very grim picture for the hundreds of employees that these unions represent at the Times, and also claim that the Times is backing down on previous lifetime job guarantees.
What do you think of labor unions coming back to bite the Times? Let us know your thoughts in the comments.
The battle between the unions and the Times could drag on for a significant length of time, given the departure of former CEO Janet Robinson. From the New York Post:
[The Guild representative for the Times, Anthony] Napoli said he expects that the sudden departure of Robinson will only slow down the bargaining process, which has already been very drawn out. “We don’t know what is going to happen. She’s not at the table, but clearly the CEO will be very involved in whatever happens,” he said.
The question of who will get to be the new CEO of the Times Co. became a little murkier this week with the news that the 16-title regional newspaper group, controlled by Sulzberger’s influential first cousin, Michael Golden, is being sold off.
With nothing on Golden’s plate, one inside rumor to catch fire is that he is being positioned for the CEO job.
Not only is there a rift with the labor unions, but if Golden becomes CEO, there could be a rift in the family as to the direction of the Times. The previous failures associated with the paywall and turning around About.com could call for an outsider to become CEO.
What do you think will be the future of the Times?
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Hoisted by the petard
Submitted by WhoIsJohnGalt on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 11:40am.
of their own liberal policies and proclivities. Made my day!
I can't wait to hear the gory details of the Times arguments AGAINST giving the unions everything they want.
C'mon Times!
Submitted by almostacowboy on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 11:41am.
Redistribute the wealth! BWAH-hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Pinchy Pinch
Submitted by AMR1960 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 11:52am.
Oh the sweet irony...Multi-millionare "Pinch" Arthur Sulzberger Jr. In a labor dispute with the 99%! LMFAOooo...
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Long Live...THE REPUBLIC !
The NYT should just raise taxes to pay for the unions.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 11:56am.
You know, like they insist municipalities do to continue the "lifetime job guarantees" and unlimited bennies for teacher's unions (even when those municipalities are flatass broke.)
This should be good.
Yeah "and also claim that the
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 1:17pm.
Yeah "and also claim that the Times is backing down on previous lifetime job guarantees" kinda took me aback. How does anyone expect lifetime employment. The only place I can see it is in the pen where you can have a lifetime vocation and employment.
This really is sweet!
Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 12:06pm.
The "Paper of Record" for all good little commies in the USSA is fighting with the union? The "working people?"
Why whatever are they thinking?
Come on Times. Man up. Redistribute ALL of the family fortunes of the owners, directors, editors, and publishers of the NYT to "the people."
Oh, yeah. One more point. THIS IS WHY YOUR IDIOTIC, LIBERAL POLICIES NEVER WORK IN THE END, YOU MORONS!!!
For anyone wondering when DA One would start building his own SS force, check this out:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/12/20/local-cops-ready-for-wa...
Also spoke with a retired Navy officer today who said a buddy still on active duty just sent him a 20 page list of senior Navy officers who have been asked to resign over very trivial administrative crap, or face charges and loss of retirement.
Seems Obama has started the purge of our military forces to promote his own "boys" into senior positions. It's just one more step in the RBFSOB's plan. God save the Second Amendment. When that goes, you know we're screwed.
the best fix is to screw their readers
Submitted by ladeflippinda on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 12:09pm.
Jack up subscriptions 10-20 percent. That would pay for the unions.
The NYSlime should raise it's
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 12:14pm.
The NYSlime should raise it's rates.
They keep on saying the government should raise taxes to be able to pay for everything so why shouldn't the NYSlime practice what it preaches?
Lets see how long they last after doing that.
Oh this is so SWEEEET!!! Will bankruptcy be to far behind?
My only hope is that if they do declare bankruptcy is that it does not happen until after Jan 2013. I do NOT want a government bailout of this rag.
advertisers
Submitted by Agnostic on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 12:20pm.
I'm sure the advertisers in the NYT, those in evil corporate America, will be happy to pay more money for advertising.
The fun part will be watching
Submitted by celator on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 12:24pm.
The fun part will be watching the NYT's reporting on its own labor troubles. There'll be plenty of "no comment" replies from the hypocritical NYT's to other media inquiries, you betcha. As others have said, the spectacle is wonderful, like a new shiny Christmas decoration on the tree.
I have an idea?
Submitted by c5then on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 12:25pm.
Maybe they could go down to Zuccotti park off Wall Street and ask if anyone there is looking for work?
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
Bad idea, c5 - those OWS
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 12:30pm.
Bad idea, c5 - those OWS bowel movement types don't want a job - they just want to talk about people NOT having jobs. As you know, they're 'revolting'!!! And if they thought the cops were bad............what'll they do when they meet some union thugs???
And........is anybody still down at Zucchini Park anyway???
"Revolting?"
Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 12:43pm.
Man, are they ever!!
They stink on ice!
Submitted by JeffC... on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 1:18pm.
(Someone had to post it.)
They could fire Krugman and replace him with any random Occutard and get the same senseless blather and lack of economic sense.
Same with Friedman, but they'd need one of the anti-semetic Occutards.
Think of the money they'd save.
Why isn't the Times
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 12:30pm.
Why isn't the Times supporting the 99%er's. I thought they were big OWS fans?
Fire your winning coach
Submitted by ricklail on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 12:59pm.
Coastal Carolina fires its winning football coach and hires a millionaire because he can bring things, This is low. The coach was only making $160,000 a year. In some cases graduate assistants make that much because their tuition is being paid to get their masters/doctorates while working for the team.
They must come from the Jerry
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 1:21pm.
They must come from the Jerry Jones school of football.
To all of those who say two
Submitted by Rusty Shackleford on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 1:20pm.
To all of those who say two wrongs can't make a right I will like them to read this!
Spread the Wealth NTYs! You greedy 1%-ers! LOL!
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Bill Maher: The Joy Behar of HBO.
Paul Krugman: The Joy Behar of The New York Times.
Jer?
Submitted by bkeyser on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 1:49pm.
Continuing the discussion that is the debacle of the Obama Foreign Policy:
I disagree that war is, or should be classified under foreign policy in that engaging in war is not normally a policy platform for the US. It is the result of a failure of policy; at least in my mind. I know you disagree with that, but be that as it may, I do consider that the US ending the war in Iraq re-institutes foreign policy with that country.
Our dealing with Iraq now clearly falls under the purview of the State Department; we can engage or disengage - either would be our policy toward this foreign entity. Agree? What if our policy toward this foreign nation -our foreign policy, if you will- leads toward the implosion of that nation and all that so many gave so much for; that would be a disastrous outcome, no?
Gird your loins.
But no matter, he had a campaign promise to fill, the POS.
[Edit]
Wait, there's more; on a different front. Apparently the economy is so bad that Obama chooses to taught the death of OBL as an example of his expertise in foreign policy- something historically associated as diplomacy, especially among Democrats and anti-war Progressives. Obama's new campaign slogan: "I've screwed everything up so bad and in so many ways that I'm running on my one success, which is typically associated with my opponents."
"Naïve" will in the future be defined as "Obama". "You're really obama if you think that guy likes you for your mind." That sort of thing.
I await breathlessly
Submitted by ahusser on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 5:30pm.
To the bloodbath to come in Iraq. Any who made the mistake of allying themselves with us will pay the price. The Iraqi "boat lift", metaphorically speaking, is on the horizon. I hope the Kurds, at least, can keep what they have gained by our presence. I was not a fan of this invasion when it was implemented, feeling (at the time and NOT in hindsight) that it was a political mistake (NOT a moral or strategic one) on Bush's part. But once in I felt we should do and finish the job and not run away like Democrats always do.
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
$250,000 Cash Per Clunker, Ahhh unions,
Submitted by upcountrywater on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 2:13pm.
This might be the most government-supported car since the Trabant'
Each Chevy Volt sold thus far may have as much as $250,000 in state and federal dollars in incentives behind it – a total of $3 billion altogether, according to an analysis by James Hohman, assistant director of fiscal policy at the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
You Didn't Build That.
Just saw something on that at HotAir, ucw
Submitted by bkeyser on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 2:36pm.
Unsellable at any price?
I wonder how Nader could rationalize this.
Unsafe at any Voltage h/t Cool
Submitted by upcountrywater on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 2:46pm.
Nader: The car feels good and Profit is bad
You Didn't Build That.
hypocracy
Submitted by right of way on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 2:16pm.
the ny slimes is all for unions for everyone and everything, except for them. liberals love spending other people's money, just not theirs.
Politically Correct 12 Days of Christmas
Submitted by Rukus on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 2:34pm.
Politically Correct 12 Days of Christmas*
On the 12th day of the Eurocentrically imposed midwinter festival, my significant other in a consenting adult, monogamous relationship gave to me:
TWELVE males reclaiming their inner warrior through ritual drumming,
ELEVEN pipers piping (plus the 18-member pit orchestra made up of members in good standing of the Musicians Equity Union as called for in their union contract even though they will not be asked to play a note),
TEN melanin-deprived testosterone-poisoned scions of the patriarchal ruling class system leaping,
NINE persons engaged in rhythmic self-expression,
EIGHT economically disadvantaged female persons stealing milk-products from enslaved Bovine-Americans,
SEVEN endangered swans swimming on federally protected wetlands,
SIX enslaved Fowl-Americans producing stolen non-human animal products,
FIVE golden symbols of culturally sanctioned enforced domestic incarceration, (NOTE: after members of the Animal Liberation Front threatened to throw red paint at my computer, the calling birds, French hens, and partridge have been reintroduced to their native habitat. To avoid further Animal-American enslavement, the remaining gift package has been revised.)
FOUR hours of recorded whale songs,
THREE deconstructionist poets,
TWO Sierra Club calendars printed on recycled processed tree carcasses,
and ONE Spotted Owl activist chained to an old-growth pear tree.
Merry Christmas.
Happy Chanukah/Hanukkah.
Good Kwanzaa.
Blessed Yule. Oh, heck!
Happy Holidays!!!! (unless otherwise prohibited by law)
Unless, of course, you are suffering from Seasonally Affected Disorder (SAD). If this be the case, please substitute this gratuitous call for celebration with a suggestion that you have a thoroughly adequate day.
*(This is not mine..., but feel free to copy and share it anyway...)
Rukus
Submitted by MrShy on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 3:30pm.
'LIKE' ..... a lot!!! :) Hilarious, and I think I'll share it, yes!!
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Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent
NLRB hooks up the unions.
Submitted by bkeyser on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 2:52pm.
Politicization.
Sickening bk, just
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 3:06pm.
Sickening bk, just sickening.
The NLRB needs to be shut down permanently and the members investigated.
Heck, all of Wash DC can use an enema right now.
"Requiring people to have health insurance is "conservative" "
Submitted by vrwc13 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 4:35pm.
"Requiring people to have health insurance is "conservative," but only if states do it." - said by - guess who
...hmmm hadn't thought of it like that.
v
The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne
Why Ron Paul Can Never Be President In 12 Quotes
Submitted by vrwc13 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 5:11pm.
Why Ron Paul Can Never Be President In 12 Quotes
...Paulbots?
v
The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne
I concur
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 5:28pm.
But I don't think you'll dissuade his supporters, many of whom know that he can't win.
Galvanic do think there is more to it than loyalty?
Submitted by vrwc13 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 5:36pm.
I wonder if someone 'followed the money' for Paul, where would we end up. I don't mean to start any conspiracy rumors or such (although my VRWC foes might think otherwise), but this all seems to be an annoying but disruptive occurrence that would appear to only help the dems?
Employees of Google, Entergy Corporation, and Lockheed Martin are some of the top companies whose employees have backed Paul.
...just saying
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The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne
Romneycare faces financial meltdown
Submitted by vrwc13 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 6:05pm.
Romneycare faces financial meltdown
'At some point you run out of other people's money to spend on your promises'
The economic downturn and the Massachusetts individual mandate have led to huge spending increases in Massachusetts state-funded insurance programs.
Brase said the individual mandate from former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's program is directly connected to the present situation. She recalled that former Massachusetts State Treasurer Tim Cahill issued a warning about the program being used as a model for Obamacare. ...oops
...this ought to help his numbers.
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The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne
Too Bad Going Down For The Third Time Won't Be Permanent.
Submitted by Avitar on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 6:47pm.
Somebody will always keep the New York Times printing as a Vanity press. When the New York Times goes bankrupt the courts will throw out all of the union contracts and what the union men don't have already in their hands will disappear.
If its bad for Pravda, its good for the country
Submitted by Callawyn on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 7:00pm.
Hilarious! Here's hoping the union goes on strike!
New York Times - what do I think is the future?
Submitted by acaiguana on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 7:23pm.
I think what has happened to the NYT is sad.
It used to be a great newspaper.
It has been a victim of very bad Liberal business ideas for too long.
I'll miss it.
Oh, it will stick around for a while as a tabloid or a free rag; but it is done.
What's next? What news outlet will replace the Times?
This is the question I'd like to see discussed.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
Liberals can claim success again!
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 9:10pm.
Thanks to liberal activism a Girl Scout Troop has now been disbanded. I think the leaders did the right thing, it just stinks.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/21/girl-scout-troops-transgender-c...
bailout
Submitted by m1xram on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 9:12pm.
This is an important division of the WH Pravda machine. How could it not receive a bailout? How could the union not be appeased by our Ideologue in Chief? The Gray Lady Down must be persevered so it can continue to spew its anti-American (Progressive) propaganda.
The opposite of Left is Freedom.
Question?
Submitted by GregE on Wed, 12/21/2011 - 10:20pm.
If Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination................how many of his supporters go here?
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/20/johnson-to-run-as-libert...
That didn't take long
Submitted by jon_torlin on Thu, 12/22/2011 - 10:58am.
We knew this would happen, didn't take long at all. Guess the jihadists can't wait but then they know America won't be coming back any time soon either. This is one of DuhOne's Ramadan presents to the middle east.
Wave of Bombings Across Iraq
Wonder how much worse it can get and how fast that will happen?
-Jon