Open Thread: Is the Media Driving the Bullying Narrative?
As of late, the topic of bullying in schools against certain types of people seems to be making headlines with increasing frequency, but the story is not new. According to Thomas Sowell, "[b]ack in the 1920s, the intelligentsia on both sides of the Atlantic were loudly protesting the execution of political radicals Sacco and Vanzetti, after what they claimed was an unfair trial. Supreme Court justice Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote to his young leftist friend Harold Laski, pointing out that there were 'a thousand-fold worse cases' involving black defendants, 'but the world does not worry over them.'"
Today's media crusade against bullying likewise only cares about which groups are "in vogue" at the moment, currently focusing on "bullying directed against youngsters who are homosexual." Do you think bullying in schools has become a media driven story? Or do you think the level of bullying requires political action to prevent? Let us know your thoughts in the comments.
As Sowell explained:
...For years, there have been local newspaper stories about black kids in schools in New York and Philadelphia beating up Asian classmates, some beaten so badly as to require medical treatment.
But the national media hear no evil, see no evil, and speak no evil. Asian-Americans are not in vogue today, just as blacks were not in vogue in the 1920s.
Meanwhile, the media are focused on bullying directed against youngsters who are homosexual. Gays are in vogue. [...]
Where youngsters are victims of violence, whether for being gay or whatever, that is where the authorities need to step in. No decent person wants to see kids hounded, whether by words or deeds, and whether the kids are gay, Asian, or whatever.
But there is still a difference between words and deeds — and it is a difference we do not need to let ourselves be stampeded into ignoring. The First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees freedom of speech — and, like any other freedom, it can be abused.
The problem with censoring certain types of bullying speech is that the censorship often becomes selectively applied.
Women can say anything they want to men, or blacks to whites, with impunity. But strong words in the other direction can bring down on students the wrath of the campus thought police — as well as punishments that can extend to suspension or expulsion.
Do you think legislating against verbal bullying will solve anything? Or is it just creating additional special privileges?
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Do you think?
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 11:00am.
Anti-bullying legislation is aimed at protecting future liberal voters, whoever they might be. Liberals project their own tendencies onto others, while they themselves are the worst bullies of all.
The Democrat party is the biggest pack of bullies in this country. Bullies, by nature, are cowards. The way to stop them is to fight back HARD.
Oh for the day when we have conservatives in Washington who will take off the gloves and go toe to toe with these bastards. That is when it will end. Not before.
Or is it just creating
Submitted by motherbelt on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 11:06am.
Or is it just creating additional special privileges?
Does affirmative action really "level the playing field" or does it just just create additional special privileges?
I guess you can see where I'm going with this.....
It creates special
Submitted by Bhaal on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 11:19am.
It creates special privileges. My daughter get harrased every day at school but she doesn't have a special crutch to use against the bullies. She's not a minority, she's not lesbian or transgendered, but she is made to hate going to school and feels that other people hate her. So how is this different than what an individual of "special" group goes through? Fact is no matter who you are someone will not like you for some reason. It might be your color or it might be your accent, where you are from, your poor, your weight, the music you listen to, your bald, you smoke or maybe they just don't like the look on your face. That's just life and people being crappy.
Bhaal, to be clear, I am only
Submitted by motherbelt on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 11:54am.
Bhaal, to be clear, I am only talking about the kind of "bullying" legislation that protects only certain groups. Your daughter should be protected, too.
And there is a difference between people not liking someone, for whatever reason, and bullying. Bullying involves intimidation and threats.
I may not have been clear. I
Submitted by Bhaal on Thu, 10/27/2011 - 11:02am.
I may not have been clear. I agree with you. The comparison I was triyng to make in my previous post is that my daughter is bullied by kids tearing her down verbally. How is that different that someone tearing down a gay student verbally? It's not. Equal protection should apply to any student no matter their orietantion or race. The hate laws are nothing but special rights for certain groups. I believe the not liking part I mentioned provides the motivation behind the kids doing the verbal abuse, not the bullying itself.
20% flat tax
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 11:10am.
Perry just revealed his tax plan of a flat tax of 20% if you pay a higher bracket (like I do and a lot of us others here do), and if you pay a lower one than that, you can continue to pay it. I didn't hear the whole thing (I'm at work) but there was something about taking some breaks out or something as well.
How does this compare to Cain's 9-9-9 or 9-0-9?
-Jon
Schools have created the bullying in the first place
Submitted by Ashrak on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 11:23am.
by criminalizing and punishing the act of defending one's self.
We have to face facts.
Schools have become "rights free zones".
I was shocked to see a group of girls bully two young boys
Submitted by Lipton on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 11:24am.
One of the girls was older than the boys the others were about the same age. They weren't yelling at them. They were kicking them. The boys weren't fighting back.
The girls did this in front of me and my three year old daughter. I yelled at them, but I am still haunted by it. It happened just a few weeks ago.
It bothers me because I am kind of tired about how no one in the media seems to care about boys anymore. All parties in this instance were white. I didn't bother to ask if anyone of them were homosexual or heterosexual as I didn't think that really mattered.
Whoever said you can't hit girls in this day and age?
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 12:04pm.
Lipton, many years ago, when we taught our boys that you don't hit girls, no matter what, I watched my youngest son (about 6 at the time) getting his ass kicked by a girl who was much bigger. He never did a thing but cover, duck, and try to get away.
After it was over, I asked him why he didn't fight back. He looked at me and said, "because you told me never to hit a girl." My heart almost broke.
I told him that he should still not hit girls UNLESS they were attacking him first. After that happens, you can take her head off.
Not many days later, the bully bitch came after him again, and he attempted to take her head off. Her parents called me and wanted to know why my son beat the hell out of their poor little daughter. I told them the rest of the story.
Never again did she attempt to take him on. She gave him all the room he wanted when they were playing together.
Bullies are cowards. They will retreat at the first violence against them. They have no desire to be hurt. They only want to hurt you.
Bullies are cowards
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 12:15pm.
Ain't that the truth. I've had my share of bullies growing up and when I got older, I learned a few tricks on hwo to defend myself, but more to the point, I DID defend myself.
The helluvit is, I got to see dentention (or D-Hall as they called it then) a lot because what I would do to them would be a lot worse than what they would do to me, so I gave as good as I got and returned better. There was no shortage of bullies though, word got around to other bullies at my school. I got a few collection of scars from it as a result. I wear them proudly.
These are the bullies that did hate it when you fought back and they were like jackals, there were many of them. That made me fight back that much harder, and the principal(or vice principal) have witnessed them attacking me first, but I always got busted too because I dared to fight back.
That's something I hated back in those days, the authority figures did not like anyone defending themselves, it made the authorities seem worthless. Guess what, they already were worthless.
I got lucky. I still managed to graduate in the top 10% of my class (out of 368) despite it all, and I never looked back. I burned all my yearbooks(my dad didn't blame me one bit) and never went to a reunion. I heard from sources that a lot of those losers were still losers, and are plain broke and stupid after some of their trust funds ran out. Too bad, karma's a bitch.
That's what the bully victims need to do, fight back and fight back HARD. And let life take care of the details.
-Jon
Well I don't know if this was wrong or not, but I pointed out
Submitted by Lipton on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 12:46pm.
to the girls that things change, and these boys get bigger, the girls are very likely to get their butts kicked. I added some comments about how I carry my phone with me at all times and I'll call somebody if I ever see them acting that way again.
I don't think the boys appreciated my interference as they quickly rode their bikes and got away, but I don't care. Those little girls need to know they are asking for a world of hurt.
I have since asked a friend who is vice-principal what I should have said in this situation, and she had no advice for me.
Wrong Profession
Submitted by Schofield Kid on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 4:19pm.
Wow, you think maybe your friend is in the wrong profession? When I was in school, the vice principal was the one everyone was afraid of because he handed out the punishment and kept people in line. Of course, that was almost 30 years ago so its probably evolved into some sort of PC touchy-feely position. But still, pretty amazing she would have no advice for resolving a conflict.
Yeah, I was surprised too.
Submitted by Lipton on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 5:07pm.
I thought maybe she didn't want to offend me by saying I did the wrong thing, but I was genuinely interested in what I should have said. I have two kids, but that doesn't mean I am really good at dealing with groups of kids, especially older ones.
I was so scared of one of our VPs in Middle School, and I was a really good kid. It turned out that my mother was treated rudely by a teacher that was giving me a hard time (and my whole class) right in front of this VP. He touched my Mom's shoulder, and told her he would take care of it. She was let go shortly after that, and there was only about 6 weeks left of school.
Ah, the good ol days when things made sense.
Unintended consequenses...
Submitted by c5then on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 11:40am.
In Philadelphia, there are marauding gangs of teenage girls (mostly black but not always) who are terrorizing people on the subways, trains and buses. It is interesting to see a group of 6 or 7 black teenage boys walk through a subway station and no one necessarily acts any differently. When it's a group of black teenage girls, you immediately see everyone's "radar" go up and people start to behave defensively.
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
Real Term limits = voting
Submitted by lrgon on Wed, 10/26/2011 - 11:52am.
mandatory "term limits" is bullying of the electorate by the lazy "one size fits all" advocates that want to use the force of law to deny you the right to vote for whomever you like.
Real Loons = boredom.
Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 10/26/2011 - 12:43pm.
No one cares Loon. Go away.
Step 1 = organize to oppose generic bullying
Submitted by DaMav on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 11:41am.
Step 2 = define any criticism of homosexual agenda as "bullying"
Step 3 = use 1 & 2 to silence any critics of homosexuality
Absolutely
Submitted by Melvin Udall on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 12:01pm.
"Is the Media Driving the Bullying Narrative?"
There is no question about it.
The whole point of the anti-bullying campaign is a back door push to mainstream homosexuality and silence anyone who objects to it (bully Christians). The Left has found a brilliant way ("It's for the children!") to get every soccer mom unknowingly sucked into being their PC police.
How does anyone in a public school say they don't believe in gay marriage? That would be "bullying".
I kept looking into "anti-bullying" sites and talks, which kept leading me to references to itgetsbetter.org. Here's the opening to It Gets Better:
"THE PLEDGE: Everyone deserves to be respected for who they are. I pledge to spread this message to my friends, family and neighbors. I'll speak up against hate and intolerance whenever I see it, at school and at work. I'll provide hope for lesbian, gay, bi, trans and other bullied teens by letting them know that 'It Gets Better.'"
Where do straight teens, who I would think are far more commonly victims given the percentage of gays in the populace, come in that list? Last. An afterthought. And what message does that send to a bullied kid, desperate to belong somewhere?
From start to finish the anti-bullying campaign comes from the Left to mainstream homosexuality and turn the bullied into bullies.
Murtha was a CROOK!!!!!
Submitted by ricklail on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 12:02pm.
I wonder if the Navy is going to remove his name from that ship now that we find out that Murtha was a crook.
Shoot, Rick, ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 12:10pm.
... all being a crook does is enhance a liberals resume!
If you want to hurt him, call him a Christian.
Lincoln's monument hasn't been removed
Submitted by lrgon on Wed, 10/26/2011 - 12:00pm.
after Thoman DeLorenzo exposed Abe as a crook in his best seller The Real Lincoln. http://www.amazon.com/Real-Lincoln-Abraham-Agenda-Unnecessary/dp/0761526...
According to Walter E. Williams, a syndicated columnist and professor of economics at George Mason University:
"As DiLorenzo documents – contrary to conventional wisdom, books about Lincoln, and the lessons taught in schools and colleges – the War between the States was not fought to end slavery; Even if it were, a natural question arises: Why was a costly war fought to end it? African slavery existed in many parts of the Western world, but it did not take warfare to end it. Dozens of countries, including the territorial possessions of the British, French, Portuguese, and Spanish, ended slavery peacefully during the late eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. Countries such as Venezuela and Colombia experienced conflict because slave emancipation was simply a ruse for revolutionaries who were seeking state power and were not motivated by emancipation per se.
"Abraham Lincoln’s direct statements indicated his support for slavery; He defended slave owners’ right to own their property, saying that "when they remind us of their constitutional rights [to own slaves], I acknowledge them, not grudgingly but fully and fairly; and I would give them any legislation for the claiming of their fugitives" (in indicating support for the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850)."
Abraham Lincoln
Submitted by Uruk Hai on Wed, 10/26/2011 - 12:41pm.
"Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." Abraham Lincoln
Anyone who could write that did not agree with slavery. Abraham Lincoln was one of our best presidents ever.
Oh look, the loon lrgon is playing racist to get attention.
Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 10/26/2011 - 12:48pm.
What else did you learn from the racist Ron Paul and his racist buddy Lew Rockwell today loon?
Phweet. Go chase those fart bubbles loon. No one cares.
Bullying, hate
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 12:10pm.
Bullying, hate speech,diversity, political correctness, it's all bullshit and it's all created by the leftists and their useful media idiots in order to prevent anyone from expressing any opinion other than the one they give you.
Ah. You are just sayin' that cuz you think they are ghey.
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 12:21pm.
Ya big bully.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 12:11pm.
There is nothing new about bullying.
What is new is the proliferation of mama's boys, and girls, in the culture.
I was bullied by second graders when I was in first grade.
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 12:18pm.
Odd. I didn't feel gay. Nor did I realize they thought I was gay. Hell, I just thought it was because I was smaller than them and an easy target. Thank heavens I outgrew that gayness thing and my whole backward thinking about the nature of bullying.
Go with Tebow.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 12:30pm.
Too bad the Denver coaching staff ain't half as talented as Tim Tebow. If they were, they could be champions.
They draft a known winner, but don't like the way he plays (?) so they attempt to change everything about him. Then when the rubber meets the road at the end of the game, Tebow just started doing it the way he always did, and he won! What a shock.
I'll bet that the coaching staff is right back to trying to change him this week.
When Vince Lombardi showed up at Green Bay, there were two guys sitting on the bench collecting splinters in their asses. The staff that Lombardi replaced didn't think that they played the "Green Bay" style of football, so they were not using them, and working on teaching them "how to play" their game.
Lombardi took one look at Paul Hornung and Bart Starr, and decided that he could build a team around THEIR talent, along with others.
End of story.
Moral of story: When you draft a racehorse, don't race to turn him into a draft horse.
Um, Newsbubba...
Submitted by Kaleidoscopic God on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 12:40pm.
I think you might have posted in the wrong thread. This is the thread about bullying, not sports discussion.
Actually, it's the Open Thread
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 12:59pm.
And we can post whatever we'd like, here.
Some days there's a topic opener....some days not. Doesn't mean we have to stick with it.
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Pumpkin Puke People to start
Submitted by ricklail on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:04pm.
Pumpkin Puke People to start a new QB against SC. i wonder if Baby Dooley made this decision or Mama Dooley did it.
I like what Bubba posted. I never knew that.
Actually, this is an open
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:04pm.
Actually, this is an open thread. You can post about most anything.
In all seriousness, though,
Submitted by Kaleidoscopic God on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 12:43pm.
Tebow is the MAN.
Bubba....
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 12:57pm.
Never, ever doubt The Tebow (just listen to the kid on the video and tell me he's not the real deal).
I will have you all know I wrote that blog about 6 hours before Matt Drudge put up the exact same HAWT picture of Timmy on his site. (It was one of about 85 in the local mullet wrapper).
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I've liked Tebow since the first game i saw him play.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 4:40pm.
Good on you for writing him up. He should be a role model for all kids.
You and Rick need to read the book, "Lombardi." It is a must for any football fan. He was quite a coach.
One of my "brushes with fame" came at the Atlanta airport way back in the 60's when I was first in the Air Force and headed home for the holidays. As I was walking out a door Vince Lombardi came in from the other side. I stepped back and held the door for him and his bag boy, Paul Hornung. (no automatic doors way back then!) He smiled and said thanks and shook my hand since i was in uniform, I guess. That's not in the book, unfortunately, (a joke for you people who don't know me) but it really stayed with me, especially the part about him having Hornung shagging the bags.
Tebow would have been starting day one with Vince.
Tebow is a 3-time loser
Submitted by cocodrie on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 4:50pm.
1- He is a true christian
2- He's from the SEC
3- His momma is pro life.
I remember some years back when they gave another loser the treatment.- Terry Bradshaw. Don't expect fair treatment soon, maybe never. Good thing the boy has courage and Jesus.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Irony, Anyone?
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:03pm.
Apparently, The Won Poo'd Over the Cuckoo's Nest (h/t Anonymouse @ MOTUS):
(beverage alert)
LAS VEGAS - A group of several dozen “Occupy Las Vegas” protesters camping on Clark County land located under the final approach to Runway 19 at McCarran International Airport today narrowly missed being injured when a 50 lb. slab of “blue ice” reportedly landed within feet of their tents.
According to witnesses, the slab fell to earth seconds after Air Force One passed overhead while landing.
Blue ice is the frozen material formed by leaks in commercial aircraft lavatory waste tanks, a mixture of human waste and vivid blue liquid disinfectant that freezes at high altitude. The ice generally dissipates long before the aircraft lands, but there have been documented cases of blue ice clinging to aircraft surfaces until the aircraft reaches warmer air on approach to landing, then the ice may separate from the aircraft and fall to earth.
Clark County Director of Aviation Randall Walker was immediately notified and dispatched airport personnel to the campsite, but witnesses report that the blue ice had melted by the time officials arrived leaving only a smelly brown residue.
Walker told INSIDE VEGAS that he is personally investigating the incident, and will communicate his findings to the President’s staff.
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let the pun-ishment commence!
Submitted by kata on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:10pm.
And comedians say this administration is lacking in comedy material...
Will we see this in the American Press, kata?
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:13pm.
I think not. Note that the link was Canadian.
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I did note that
Submitted by kata on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:48pm.
It seems that he's the only one covering it ... and although the blog entry is in the comments of two LV papers it's not actually in the articles. I wonder where he got the information.
Could be a great headline.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 4:43pm.
"Obama Craps On His Base Once Again"
My 8th grade daughter was
Submitted by Immortal Fish on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:04pm.
My 8th grade daughter was being called a "Cracka" by a group of other girls. You do the math on what their demographic is. We would have let it go if it were only a few times, but it was several times concentrated over what became about a 2-week period. Fortunately, it was all words, nothing hands-on, else we would have escalated sooner.
When we finally were able to sit down with a "Guidance Councillor" about a week or so after the harrassment stopped (!!) they asked us what a Cracka was. This person had numerous psych degrees hanging on their wall, yet somehow managed to avoid hearing that particular slang word throughout their entire professional career. Furthermore, we had to explain that this derogatory slang word did not infer a crispy, pale snack. Ultimately, we were assured that the account was entered into the records of the offending girls (yeah, right), but they didn't have to serve detention or something similar.
Now, reverse this. How quickly would the parents of a black child have acted? How quickly would the school have taken action to resolve it?
What exactly does a "Guidance Councillor" accomplish for grade school students anyhow? "Billy, I see you've started shoveling driveways. That's admirable, but it's seasonal. Perhaps you should consider a paper route?"
Here in NC they want a kid to
Submitted by ricklail on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:12pm.
Here in NC they want a kid to decide on a career track before they enter HS. I guess that is the job of the guidance counselor, to help them make that decision. By the 8th grade they should be indoctrinated enough not to listen to what mom or dad think but a so called "wiser" adult thinks.
Here in Pennsylvania
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:21pm.
Guidance counselors act like therapists in the younger grades. They come in the classroom and teach about diversity and such. Heaven forbid they teach manners and courtesy, which would solve the whole diversity issue without putting one class of people above another. Then when the kids are in high school and need help finding a job or with selecting and finding money for college, there's one guidance counselor to about 400 kids.
Immortal
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:16pm.
We all know had the "n" word been used by your daughter she would have been suspended and subjected to "re-education" promptly.
Guidance counselors
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:19pm.
My experience with a "guidance counselor" was in junior high which was the beginning of the more hard core bullyings I received and I started fighting back. The counselor went so far to suggest I needed to change my reaction to the bullies rather than dealing with the bullies themselves which were the problems. Here I was, the victim, but I was made to feel like the perp instead and that just plain pissed me off to no end.
I was willing to try, but I knew the end result was going to be the same, I would get attacked. And I did. Repeatedly. It pissed my parents off that this was going on and my dad wanted to tear into that counselor for trying to make me feel like I was the cause of the trouble I was getting in.
That guidance counselor was nothing more than a damn quack.
-Jon
Jon
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:23pm.
That reminds me of my son's experiences in junior high and high school. When you fight back you get into as much or more trouble than the bullies.
EXACTLY!
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:29pm.
That's exactly what happened to me.
My parents and I decided that whatever trouble I got into for fighting back against the bullies, I would wear it as a badge of pride.
As I mentioned earlier, I even got a collection of little scars from all that which I wear with pride. Anyone asks me about it, I tell them and then I said "you should see the other guy."
-Jon
There was a girl in my class,
Submitted by ricklail on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:29pm.
There was a girl in my class, 1969, that wanted to be a doctor. The guidance counselor told her that that was not a job for a woman, she should be a nurse. Today she is a very successful doctor. Good thing she listened to her parents.
WH Violates Law.....big surprise, business as usual
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:08pm.
Looks like the GAO is trying to cover itself, seems the WH violated the law in dealing with China.
WH violates law in dialogue with China
See above for details.
The point is, the WH, and Soetoro himself, violates another law and no one seems to care.
-Jon
I had a friend of a friend on
Submitted by JdfinCT on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:22pm.
I had a friend of a friend on my facebook friedns list once. She was nice for the most part but she quickly showed her crazy liberalness soon enough.
She posted a coment/link about the national anti-gay bullying day. So i asked her why can't we just have a anti-bullying day and not divide the victims of bullying into groups. A few of her friends "liked" my post, but I swear she must have had a stroke the way she went off on how fat or geeky/nerdy kids never get it as bad as gay kids. That they never get sexually assulted or have their arms broken and various other things..i was dumbfounded she believed that..i even tried to tell her i knew it to be personally to be untrue based on what i went through or saw in my time in grade school/high school. But she refused to believe me.
I hate bullying i really do. I was tormented for years and had to fight day afer day some months. And i of course always got in trouble even though i was defending myself(and once against a girl who tried to punch me lol i got suspended she got..NOTHING lol) But it made me stronger in the end. It makes you tougher. And I feel for those of all walks of life who take their lives from being bullied. BUT..you cannot make calling people named illegal or else we will have milions of school kids being arrested for this. Their is no constituional protection from being hurt or offended by speech. And last time i checked the physical aspect is already illegal..you can't assault people. But as we have redundant hate crime legislation on the books i am sure we will end up with more liberty stomping redundant laws against bullying soon that won't stop it and will only divide us into special groups with special privledges.
Since we are sharing stories today*
Submitted by cajun2 on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:52pm.
Let me add my "bullying" history.
Cajuns in south La were considered "bas clas" or low class people. Generally poor, share croppers, or fishermen. They also were small of stature and we "talked funny". We were treated to constant bullying by other kids as well as from the teachers. This went on even into college.
Since there were no computers yet in 1966, I had to take a "name change" card to each of my professors to sign since I had gotten married during the summer. One professor, who was once one of my high school teachers, asked me..."when is the baby due?" I told her the baby was due the day after graduation. I was a bit inaccurate. Three years later, the day AFTER graduation, I found out I was pregnant. Sorry, I was 7 months off my calculations. My degree was not in math or biology.
Today the cajun culture is revered for our creative talent, music, food, hard work and familiy oriented beliefs. We also have an inner strength due to our history and a self deprecating sense of humor.
One's self image is made from within one's self, not how others see us. To endure discrimination as well as many other obstacles in life, you can become stronger or you can live down to those expectations of others.
And I get the last laugh, hence, the post name cajun too....;-)
Yes, Caj....there are a couple of really good "old saws"
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 2:05pm.
.....to cover this one.
"She who laughs last, lasts best".
"Revenge is a dish best served cold".
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My HS Theology teacher
Submitted by GW on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 4:08pm.
was a Cajun. Previous to becoming a teacher at my HS, she was a principal of her own school. One of her students came crying to her that he had been called the n-word. When she replied that she was a Cajun, he felt better: at least he wasn't as low as she was.
She was a great teacher and I wish I'd paid more attention to her back then.
Just a few things from Monnbattery.com
Submitted by ricklail on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:32pm.
Eric Holder to design cabs for NYC.
A kid's first encounter with a moonbat.
The DOE's new green energy loan program
Definitely media and activist
Submitted by ant on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:37pm.
Definitely media and activist driven hog-wash. And from the same media that can't seem to bully conservatives enough. In essence, for just one of a myriad of examples, isn't Moochshelle bullying fat kids? Washington bullies the people on a regular basis, the raid on Gibson guitars comes to mind, as does Mr. "Shut up and sit in the back" and anyone who forced through the Obamacare nightmare against the will of the People.
"only fashionable minorities get protection"
Submitted by kata on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 1:57pm.
Yep, I can agree with that observation. If this "some animals are more equal than others" agenda goes unchecked it can only end badly.
Obviously, there is bullying,
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 2:02pm.
Obviously, there is bullying, and it affects people's lives to varying degrees. Unfortunately it has led some people to kill themselves, which is tragic.
BUT, I feel like this is the cause celebre right now. It's not something that requires extra legislation or anything like that.
Yes there were several
Submitted by buddyc on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 2:37pm.
Yes there were several suicides in California by people who either supported or voted for Proposition 8 who lost their jobs because of actions of the gay and lesbian community. Is that also "tragic"?
1. There were? 2. Yes, it is.
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 5:35pm.
1. There were?
2. Yes, it is.
Megyn Kelly the DOJ is looking to lie
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 2:17pm.
She's reporting a new DOJ proposed rule will allow the government to lie and/or deny records. Also, I heard some police officers were arrested for gun smuggling.
How is Eric Holder not out of a job and in jail?!
CSI:Miami on Sunday night did
Submitted by ricklail on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 3:10pm.
CSI:Miami on Sunday night did a show on guns getting into the hands of drug gangs in Mexico. Sort of surprised me. It was based somewhat on Fast and Furious, ATF agent selling guns and grenades to drug gangs.
We can forget about Rep Issa's committee getting to the bottom of Fast and Furious. They've already lied and redacted documents. One page of a document was completely blacked out except for the date and sender.
What about fighting back against bullies??
Submitted by Uruk Hai on Wed, 10/26/2011 - 1:09pm.
"We can forget about Rep Issa's committee getting to the bottom of Fast and Furious. They've already lied and redacted documents. One page of a document was completely blacked out except for the date and sender."
But..... I thought this entire post was about not giving up and letting the bullies win!! Right now, Darrell Issa is one of my hero's. He just keeps on banging away at the arrogance of the entire DOJ and Eric Holder in particular. "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." Abraham Lincoln This truth was never better demonstrated than by the battle going on between Issa and Holder. I'm rooting for Issa.
Of course
Submitted by ljacone on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 2:18pm.
A few months ago, I saw yet another anti-bullying story and began to ask myself "Why does the media suddenly care so much about bullying? They certainly didn't care about it when I was in school." So I did some digging and of course the obvious parallels about homosexual students became very obvious very quickly.
I was bullied a lot in middle school because I was an outcast and a loner. I went to a Catholic school and thus was always punished for defending myself, and my parents concerns fell on deaf ears. But my parents encouraged me to defend myself and not back down and they would stand behind me. Once I got to high school it was easy to hook up with the other outcasts and create our own group. No one could bully me because I was having too much fun with my like-minded friends.
These homosexual students who feel so bullied all the time need to find their own support group like us outcasts, freaks, and weirdos did. If homosexuality is so commonplace and pervasive (as the left tells us it is) then surely they should have no problem finding others who have similar mindsets and attitudes. Unless of course they were simply being overdramatic, but I won't go so far as to suggest THAT stereotype.
It is a gay/lesbian movement.
Submitted by buddyc on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 2:34pm.
It is a gay/lesbian movement. They want to be able to bully and intimidate anyone but don't want their feelings hurt if someone were to dare claim that gay/lesbian sex is a sin. The lower levels of the media are packed (hahaha) with gays and lesbians and they write the script and do the research for the lazy "stars".
Is Barack Obama serious?
Submitted by bkeyser on Tue, 10/25/2011 - 7:43pm.
Is he mocking me? Is this a dare? Or a challenge? I don't know, I might just have to take him up on it.
When I was in school, which
Submitted by redfish on Wed, 10/26/2011 - 7:21pm.
When I was in school, which wasn't too long ago, nobody wouldn't even have known what your sexual orientation was unless you somehow knew them well enough to tell them. I'm straight, but nobody I didn't tell wouldn't have known it.
You were much more likely to be bullied for dozens of other things, whether it was because you dressed funny, you were nerdy, or fat, or you were religious (kids think religious people are weird).
I think a lot of the encouragement for gays to "be out", combined with constant lecturing of kids about tolerance, is likely causing more bullying. I've met a lot of people with anti-Semitic sentiments who are that way because because they resented people who would use the Holocaust for political and ideological purposes. A lot of kids probably know that they're being used for politics.