Open Thread: The Liberal-Conservative Double Standard
There is a notable double standard that exists between what Republicans and Democrats are allowed to say. The same words can be construed as racist or sexist when coming from a Republican, but entirely admissible when coming from a Democrat.
Rep. Allen West recently wrote a strongly-worded letter targeting Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz for berating him behind his back on the House floor. He received a number of complaints calling him sexist, while Wasserman Schultz, who has made a number of similar, potentially offensive comments, received none of the same flak. Do you think the overt push for political correctness has led to this double standard? Let us know your thoughts in the comments.
Wasserman Schultz, also the chairwoman of the DNC, is known for making somewhat outlandish statements. In March, she said young children in poverty who aren't in school will likely end up as criminals. In April, she called the GOP budget plan a "death trap for some seniors." In May, she called the GOP effort to end federal funding of Planned Parenthood a "war on women." In June, she said Republicans "want to literally drag us all the way back to Jim Crow laws."
While these statements can easily be taken as racist, sexist, or outright lies, few called her out for making any of these remarks. In July, when she went to the House floor in West's absence to denounce him for voting for Cut, Cap, and Balance, saying West supported “protecting tax breaks for Big Oil, millionaires and companies who ship jobs overseas,” while “increas[ing] the costs for Medicare beneficiaries," West finally took a stand against her.
West wrote an email in response to Wasserman Schultz's remarks:
From: Z112 West, Allen
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 04:48 PM
To: Wasserman Schultz, Debbie
Cc: McCarthy, Kevin; Blyth, Jonathan; Pelosi, Nancy; Cantor, Eric
Subject: Unprofessional and Inappropriate Sophomoric Behavior from Wasserman-Schultz
Look, Debbie, I understand that after I departed the House floor you directed your floor speech comments directly towards me. Let me make myself perfectly clear, you want a personal fight, I am happy to oblige. You are the most vile, unprofessional ,and despicable member of the US House of Representatives. If you have something to say to me, stop being a coward and say it to my face, otherwise, shut the heck up. Focus on your own congressional district!
I am bringing your actions today to our Majority Leader and Majority Whip and from this time forward, understand that I shall defend myself forthright against your heinous characterless behavior……which dates back to the disgusting protest you ordered at my campaign hqs, October 2010 in Deerfield Beach.
You have proven repeatedly that you are not a Lady, therefore, shall not be afforded due respect from me!
Steadfast and Loyal
Congressman Allen B West (R-FL)
As explained at the Daily Caller,
Wasserman Schultz has gone after West before, most notably at a 2010 rally outside his campaign headquarters where she claimed he thought it was alright “to objectify and denigrate women.”
In an interview with talk radio host Mark Levin last month, shortly after the House floor incident, West noted: “I’m the threat because I’m the guy that got off their [liberal] plantation, and they cannot afford to have a strong voice such as mine out there.”
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Yes there is a double standard.
Submitted by inquiringmind on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:14am.
By the way have you noticed how Debbies hair always looks like a wet mop.
Of Course...
Submitted by Flying_Flynn on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 2:18pm.
...it matches her personality!
Several friends with
Submitted by texasborngranny on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 3:09pm.
Jewish heritage call it heeb hair. Hopefully, commenting on it will not be considered an ethnic slur.
A (purposeful) mispelling of the Jewish slur 'hebe'. While before 'hebe' was an ethnic slur, 'heeb' is a word of pride regarding ones Jewish identity. This transformation is due in large part to the emerging Jewish youth culture comming out of New York City.
The demorats
Submitted by azgal602 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:15am.
can dish it out but can't take it. I am all in favor of everyone stopping the garbage throwing, but not when it only has to be the republicans. If I was a Senator or Representative and said something the demorats didn't like I wouldn't apologize either. Just look at the MSM and what they are constantly calling the Tea Party Members. Go for it Mr. West.......I love it.
Little Debs (of the Wasserman Crime Family)
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:14am.
Wants to have her cake and eat it too.
Too bad for her, she picked on the wrong guy. Allen West doesn't care one iota what anyone calls him, you should hear him joke about it in person. I'm sure he was happy to have the opportunity to fire back at the little twit for being so inappropriate as to call him out personally on the floor of the House.
I can't wait for 2012, when we broom these nasty, lying, "terrorist talking" democrats.
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I can't stand Wasserman, but
Submitted by PaleHorse on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:21am.
I can't stand Wasserman, but West looked positively low class in his response to her. He lost all control and responded like a child. It was a shame for an otherwise awesome man. I felt embarrassed for him. Why stoop to her level?
You can roll over and take it....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:37am.
if you want. But, most of us have had enough. Look up "fight or flight".
Agreed.
Submitted by ConservaSerb on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:16pm.
I'm sick of the pusillanimity of the GOP. Tell the libocommies to go SCREW themselves. I don't see Georgie's Stephy-poop-u-luss pulling punches, or that crazed cajun bald-headed turd, or HAG Pelosi, or Hairy Palm, or Chuckie go phuckie Shoomah, or Dick B. Jurkin pullin' their punches.
A wise & frugal government, which shall leave men free 2 regulate their own pursuits of industry & improvement, & shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government. T. Jefferson
Why Stoop?
Submitted by GeneralAl on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:42am.
Sir, I appreciate your concern for Mister West but it is of little value. Republicans have for years hidden under the "Its not statesmanlike" cloak when dissed by the opposition. That era is over and the gloves are off. Its a street brawl and we're going to whip their sorry little Commie loving, Liberal, lying, cheating, deceiving, stealing, too-timing butts! Get used to it, for there's more coming down the pike!
"Old Soldiers never die, they just fade away"!
I agree that it's time to
Submitted by PaleHorse on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:45am.
I agree that it's time to fight fire with fire, however, I think you have a better chance of winning if you do so with class and integrity. Strong language doesn't scare me, but West threw a full-on temper tantrum. He looked weak and thin-skinned. Fight back, but at least act like a man while doing so.
A temper tantrum?
Submitted by ConservaSerb on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:21pm.
He's sick of the double-standard. He's sick of the whiny bitch from Florida slamming Republicans and not being taken to task. And so am I.
A wise & frugal government, which shall leave men free 2 regulate their own pursuits of industry & improvement, & shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government. T. Jefferson
Temper tantrum?
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:27pm.
Hardly.
He wrote that letter himself. He is a man who means what he says, and carefully considers his options before he fires.
You're sounding like a liberal potted plant here.
Hmmm.
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You may be right B. In this
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 1:41pm.
You may be right B. In this edited post on another thread he uses the liberal talking point of the debt ceiling debate being a "manufactured crisis". I heard that term being used by so many elected libturds and their LSM mouth pieces I figured it was something that UpChuck Schumer told them to keep stressing.
Yes, yes. So begins the
Submitted by PaleHorse on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 4:18pm.
Yes, yes. So begins the Newsbusters hazing ritual, whereby the 12 full-time commentors accuse new members of being liberal trolls. I figured this would happen, but the predictability is frightening. As soon as someone has an opinion that even differs slightly from the Newsbusters party line, they get shouted down and accused of communism/liberalism, etc. I'm a life long Republican voter who's tired of both parties (I got absolutely slammed in the markets this week and I'm sick of it). I refuse to support any of these jackals. Sorry if it hurts your feelings, but the Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats these days. The manufactured debt crisis showed them for what they truly are...morons. Every last one.
Awwwww, you want a little
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 4:30pm.
Awwwww, you want a little cheese with that Whine?
Well Mr 6 day wonder if you cannot take the heat for what you post maybe you should just slink away. Your posting of you disliking both parties yet single out the Republicans more, calling Allen West a child for responding to the attacks by Little Debs and utilizing the liberal talking point of the "manufactured crisis" all point to you being a libturd plant or a retread.
Deal with it buckwheat.
Right Scoob*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 4:45pm.
Interesting that after 6 days he knows "all 12 full-time commentors" so well. Smells like a re-tread to me.
I'm on vacation and finally
Submitted by PaleHorse on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 5:05pm.
I'm on vacation and finally decided to sign up. Sorry I haven't been here longer, but Newsbusters has been a daily reading site for me for two or so years. Very good articles (most of the time) and fun back and forth in the message boards. Sorry Scuba but I don't think you are suffering at all from the market otherwise you'd stop drinking the kool aid. Do you even have any money at stake? Somehow I doubt it.
When Newbies attack . . .
Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 5:16pm.
Scoob is no Kool-Aid drinker.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Anyone that supports either
Submitted by PaleHorse on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 5:19pm.
Anyone that supports either side of the political debate in this BS crisis is drinking kool aid.
Really, the Tea Party side of
Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 5:29pm.
Really, the Tea Party side of this was the same as the Democrat-RINO side?
You're not just a Troll, you're an ignorant Troll.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Mr. Shy's score
Submitted by MrShy on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 5:53pm.
Free = 1
Paleface = zilch
- Shy Vinyl
Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent
(blushes)
Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 8:59pm.
(blushes)
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Me drinking Kool Aid? Now
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:07pm.
Me drinking Kool Aid? Now the trolls are trying to say us conservatives believe everything that is uttered? Sorry bud, reverse pyschology or what ever you are trying to do won't work on those of us that have our own opinions and do not have to rely on talking points.
Please point out where in any of my posts to you I mentioned my position on the debt ceiling?
And if I were on vacation (which I will be in less that 24 hours) I would not be wasting all my free time posting on the boards of a blog. Especially with the amount you have managed in your 6 short days here.
I wonder, is this your next account?
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 8:09pm.
This one, right here? 5 years plus and no posts. Strange.
Nice catch Restless!!!! I
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 8:15pm.
Nice catch Restless!!!!
I wonder whose banning will get this account up and running?
Restless, this is my first
Submitted by PaleHorse on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 9:30am.
Restless, this is my first and only account. Not sure why the need for the extreme paranoia. The opinions that I've expressed are neither liberal or extreme. Any rational person can this crisis was manufactured and if you followed any market analysts, you'd understand this is now common knowledge. I can't figure out what I've said to get people so riled up. Can you? The national debt wasn't an urgent issue. It was purely political and now we're going to pay the price. If you're ok with that, then good for you. However, as I shed money, I'm not too happy. What's so offensive about my position?
~Ooh, ooh, am I too late for the hazing?
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:15pm.
I miss all the fun stuff. *sigh*
That is what happens when 5
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:17pm.
That is what happens when 5 or so others demand your attention there Bru. :-) I won't hold it against ya being late, just let me know what drink to have waiting for you.
~Don't care as long as it's a double
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:26pm.
I'm about to break my 7 and a half year dry spell. I feel a Kriek Lambic calling my name.
He's a retread, Bru
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:56pm.
I'm sure you've smacked it around before.
You mean the same class and
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:58pm.
You mean the same class and demeanor McCain used during the 2008 campaign. Time to tell it like it is with no hold barred. West was perfectly frank, factual and descriptive in his email. If you don't like it get on th horse and ride off with McCain.
Wrong.
Submitted by Order270 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 1:18pm.
She waited until he left the building to start popping off and then as soon as she found herself in a fight, she went crying home to mommie. Under the circumstances of her cowardly attack, dropping the gloves was in no way out of line.
West is a career soldier*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 1:29pm.
What was he supposed to do? Duck and say" oh nice shot". That was never gonna happen from a career soldier having been "under fire" more than once.
I totally agree with you,
Submitted by texasborngranny on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 3:12pm.
and this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFN1-uqt2WA
No, it's about time
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:46am.
....someone responded in kind to the little termagant.
The mere fact that she and her little clutch of hens responded with "SEXISM!!!!" is all we need to know about Little Debs.....she can dish it out, but she can't take it.
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Blonde, I agree that she
Submitted by PaleHorse on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:49am.
Blonde, I agree that she deserved a response, but I disagree with West's tone and content. He looked whiny. It made me cringe. West's response made it seem that, much like Debs, he couldn't take it either. Had he responded in a rational manner, he would have exposed her for the fraud that she truly is. Instead, the discussion turned towards his immaturity.
No.
Submitted by Order270 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 1:25pm.
Not within the context of such a cowardly attack.
Pale Horse...
Submitted by packman on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 1:41pm.
You said, "...had he responded in a rational manner, he would have exposed her for the fraud that she truly is. Instead, the discussion turned toward his immaturity..." Well, that is precisely the point being made here by other posters supportive of West's response. (Me included). Suddenly it is WEST who is immature, it is WEST who is racist, it is WEST who is denigrating women...yadda yadda yadda ad infinitum. All the attention focused on WEST and none on Whatsherface-Schultzie. What about her immaturity? What about her track record of making irresponsible and baiting remarks? And what about her waiting until Rep. West left the chamber before she tossed out her insulting remarks? That's nothing more than the mark of a coward, a race-baiter, someone unwilling to speak to West face-to-face, but more than willing to slander him behind his back with the media in full tilt listening to her every remark. And that has been the historic GOP position, to maintain their decorum and not fire back.
Well, guess what libtards?...not any more! I thought West's remarks and response put DWS in her place, and its high time someone did. The only way we're going to turn the liberally-biased media on the butts is to confront them with what they hate the most...truth....
"...Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread..." ~Thomas Jefferson
Get used to it,
Submitted by johnsonl on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 2:28pm.
that's how women (and liberal men) fight.
packman---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 5:38pm.
Precisely !!
This is exactly why "lifelong Republican" PaleHorse comes across not only as a phony, but a whiner as well.
If he has indeed followed NB's for years, he would note that Republicans get hammered with consistency around here for their dubious ways.
Instead, he focuses on denigrating West while either giving Wasserman-Schultz the benefit of the doubt or letting her slide altogether.
He may well be entitled to his opinion, but apparently he has a non-functioning olfactory system, as both his opinion and his approach reek.
MD
I do not know what you're
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:49am.
I do not know what you're drinking but maybe you might want to lay off it a bit. :-) Nothing that Allen West made in his reply to Debbie Wheresmybrain Schultz can be considered low class.
The time has come for us conservative/republicans to stop laying down and taking the cr@p these low life scum sucking libturds like Debs throws at us.
No more.
Allen West has proven time and time again that we must stop playing defense and bring out the offense. Call out these libturds each and every time.
Scuba Dude, No drinking...yet
Submitted by PaleHorse on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:52am.
Scuba Dude, No drinking...yet :) I am on vacation this week in the beautiful Emerald Isle, NC with the family, but it's still a little too early for beers. Look, I like West, but I was disappointed by his tone and word choice. Again, he appeared to be petty, thin-skinned, and immature. He should have simply called her out without inflammatory rhetoric. It would have been much more effective and he would have come off in a much better light. As it stands, he looked like a child throwing sand on the playground.
PaleHorse,
Submitted by NavyBuckeye on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:22pm.
No matter what West would have said, the media and Debs would decry it as sexist and childish. He could have said it a tad more nicely (although I don't think he sounds like you paint it) but it wouldn't of made a difference. The same reaction and attention would of been forced on it by the MSM and Debs, they would of just had to work harder to do so.
You are not that far from me.
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 3:06pm.
You are not that far from me. I live just northwest of New Bern.
rick, it's beautiful down
Submitted by PaleHorse on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 4:16pm.
rick, it's beautiful down here. We are pleasantly surprised. We've been going to the Outer Banks for years, but it's starting to get too crowded so we decided to try something different. The beaches in Emerald Isle are beautiful and the rents are reasonable. It's been a truly amazing time. I have a feeling we'll be coming back for years to come.
My beef with Emerald Isle and
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 5:51pm.
My beef with Emerald Isle and Atlantic Beach is that they are charging $10 a day to park at some of the accesses. That ain't right. I feel they are already gouging tourist enough. While you are there try and visit the NC Aquarium and Fort Macon. If you get time go over to Beaufort and visit the NC Maritime Museum. Also visit the waterfront at Beaufort. I don't think that Alan Cheeks' gallery is there anymore but he used to paint some great scenes of the coast. If you get the chance try and find some Bogue Sound melons. May have some at Gardner's Produce on the right on 70 as you are leaving Morehead City.
By the way Fort Macon and the Maritime Museum are free. I don't really have any eating places to recommend. The only place we eat there is the Mongolian Grill in the shopping center where Rose's is located.
Allen West
Submitted by 12mc54 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 1:54pm.
I disagree with you. Allen West wasn't going to take her crap and I wouldn't have either if I was in his shoes. More republicans should follow his example.
If you like to dish it out you better be prepared to take it.
She's a typical Democrat. Acts shocked when someone stands up to them and speaks the truth. They can all go to He%^ as far as I'm concerned.
The letter sounded to me like
Submitted by Zippy on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:00pm.
The letter sounded to me like a letter of complaint to the Defeatocrat leadership to reign in Debbie.
That is not stooping to her level.
I think they call it tough love. Ie. Debbie crossed the line, reign her in. Just trying to help.
Undoubtedly. Compare how the
Submitted by rbosque on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:29am.
Undoubtedly.
Compare how the left treats Palin v Schultz.
No argument.
There's no double standard--
Submitted by HockeyKid on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:29am.
the lefty press is just afraid of anyone with a brain. So West gets villified and Wheresmybrain-Schultz doesn't.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Moochies in Spain, did ya kno'?
Submitted by Red Jeep on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:32am.
Was this reported in the MSM here? Moochie's back in Spain again while Bozo celebrates his 50th.
We go to the British DailyMail for lots of news and pics, of the Prez's 50th bash and Moochie's trip: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2021286/US-debt-ceiling-deal-Pre...
Then we can get more info from the Indian Deccan Herald: Michelle’s Spain trip draws ire http://www.deccanherald.com/content/86868/michelles-spain-trip-draws-ire...
Not a peep here about it in the U.S. MSM as far as I can tell.
Let 'em eat cake.
Red Jeep
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:51am.
Was Moo's trip to Spain from last year? It's dated August 7.
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A 'modern-day Marie Antoinette', Michelle Obama ...
Submitted by Red Jeep on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:15pm.
"A 'modern-day Marie Antoinette', Michelle Obama took another vacation in Spain
Michelle Obama's trip to Spain during her husband's 50th birthday celebrations comes a year after a similar vacation, which her husband also avoided.
The First Lady flew to Marbella with an entourage of friends and family in a trip that is understood to have cost the taxpayer thousands of pounds.
Mrs Obama received widespread criticism for the vacation after she used the taxpayer-funded Air Force Air Force Two private jet to go on holiday...
...This year, Mrs Obama appears to have learned her lesson from the negative reaction last year and tried to slip away without people noticing."
(Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2021286/US-debt-ceiling-deal-Pre...)
I believe the UK story is current. I erred on the Indian link. That was written last year.
That's the link I hit (Indian one)
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:29pm.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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Double Standard
Submitted by palmaceiahome on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:44am.
The American people have to wise up with the Media Bias that is calculable in electing a fraud to the White House.Miss ''Angry Perm'' can say anything she wants and the Media tunes in right behind her. The Obama Media are so in the tank towards getting the anointed one re-elected they will stop at nothing to defend him. Forget about facts or history. Hiding poll numbers from their own net-work to having the most leftest hack on ''Meet the Press'' on Sunday. How is that even glutamate? So to get Obama and his path of destruction out of office the Republicans have to beat Obama and the Media?
DOW is tanking
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:52am.
Down 350.
How's that jobs thingy workin' out for you there, Mr. President?
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No surprise at all
Submitted by jon_torlin on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 11:59am.
Watch the Dems to spin this as "we don't know why this is happening" or "Businesses aren't paying their share and hiring" or other forms of bovine excrement.
I expected this to happen and I expect this to get worse. With all the crap out of DC, how the hell can it get better?
-Jon
Filthy businesses!
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:29pm.
They're sitting there on all that cash and won't hire anyone!!! How dare they!
IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(that's it, I can't do any more liberal whine).
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Maybe this will help cheer you up, Blonde.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:57pm.
Check out Ray Stevens latest. Is that you in the Gator sweat shirt playing the wife in this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=J6TcpfBHlbs
Personally I think that Little Debbie is lucky West didn't kick her ass. I just love it when the lib women attack, the conservatives have a mild reaction, and the libs yell "SEXIST!"
But I'm a racist. What do I know?
That's pretty funny, Bubba
Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 9:54am.
"Obama Money"....
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They're sitting there on all
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 1:16pm.
They're sitting there on all that cash and won't hire anyone!!! How dare they! Lol, like the money belongs to the workers, and the rich cats stole it. I hear that one a lot.Yeah, Dan....
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 3:54pm.
...that's one of my favorites.
Mean corporations!
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Don't worry J
Submitted by bkeyser on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:03pm.
it's just headwinds or something. The market inherited this stuff. Japanese... godzilla... holding up car sales. That earthquake in Haiti. Oh, and the debt-deal wrangling has the market all shook up. And Greece. And global warming. Nothing to fret about on the homefront though, everything is just fine here. Nasdaq off 3.5%- probably just a glitch in the new i-phone. Really, no problem at all. Should have this all cleared up with a little bit of fundraising and, of course, extending funding for the FAA. That's all we need. Just a little calmness. Everything will be fine.
Done got ate up
Submitted by jon_torlin on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:29pm.
This headline isn't helping matters, a large part of the debt ceiling got eaten up in one day. Big surprise there.
More debt
And yet, this real sorry son of a bitch is saying "we're not halfway there."
Halfway
This is proof he knows what he is doing, even if he is a sock puppet for Soros.
Given all these circumstance, I repeat my question, how the hell can it get better? Short answer: IT CAN'T!
And people STILL don't get it!
-Jon
How about the forboding line
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:49pm.
How about the forboding line 'we've got a big, messy, tough DEMOCRACY' (or close to it)???? I read that as - 'it would be a hell of a lot easier for ME to implement my plan for America if I DIDN'T have to go through all of this crap!!!
And, of course............it continues to be Bushs', the Republicans, the TEA partiers, the conservatives, and whoever elses' fault that is not laying down and letting the REGIME roll them over.
Obama is wasting no time in burning through his $2.2 trillion
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:55pm.
...republican birthday present.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
I didn't hear him thank them
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 1:53pm.
I didn't hear him thank them for it.....did you?? He immediatly came out and started griping and moaning about the 'fabricated crisis', or whatever it was.........then started talking about enacting MORE taxes and debt.
Today is my Mom's birthday............do NOT mention Boy Blunder to her, unless you want an unprintable response!!!!
Also, I've been doing some work in another ladys home . and elderly local gal, who lives there with her two daughters, and it is her birthday today also..........and have pity on anyone who would tell her that it's Barama's birthday also............
Just wait until tomorrow and
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 5:53pm.
Just wait until tomorrow and the job numbers for July come out. Debbie Wheresherbrain Schultz is going to have to eat them words she spoke on MESSNBC about the economy recovering.
I didn't say....
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:32pm.
"change you can believe in tomorrow" ~ Obama
GM and green jobs just need a little more time, and alot more cash. They sold 142 Volts last month. That will help the jobs numbers, and the economy overall.
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J, would the 142 Volts
Submitted by UpNorth on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:50pm.
include the ones the government is buying?
GM said they made money hand over fist in the last quarter. Where are all the new jobs?
Sheesh!!
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:26pm.
It's Bush's fault!!
Sorry DFTT
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:34pm.
....I forgot. *shame*
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Dow down 350 may only be the
Submitted by bassndude on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:34pm.
Dow down 350 may only be the start. With unemployment at 400,000 for 17 weeks in a row, borrowing above 100% of GDP, this year, things could get real nasty in the market. If the close is below 11550's area I would look for another drop tomorrow.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
or more...
Submitted by jon_torlin on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 4:10pm.
Right now at the time of my typing this, it had briefly hit -400 (slipped back to 365 but I expect it to keep going down).
I don't expect people to realize at this point what this bogus potus is doing, if they haven't figured it out by now, they'll figure it out way too late. The Markets won't put up with this nonsense and they will pull out (some have already started).
-Jon
Edit: Stock market closed at -512.76 points at 11383.68 for the day.
This is before the jobs report that's supposed to come out Friday which is expected to be bad.(We already know it's bad, but will it be reported as such?) According to the news, today's fall wiped out the year's "gains." But as I mentioned before, given the debt ceiling nonsense, I'm not surprised.
Jon, my advice to buy the VIX
Submitted by bassndude on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 5:29pm.
Jon, my advice to buy the VIX was good this morning. It closed up 8.28. Knew this would be a good day for me. I love it when a plan comes together.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
Blonde, buy the VIX!!
Submitted by bassndude on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:39pm.
Blonde, buy the VIX!!
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
Moved my IRA to
Submitted by johnsonl on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 2:31pm.
government bonds last week. *whew*!
So govenrment bonds means
Submitted by bassndude on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 5:33pm.
So govenrment bonds means your one of the ones that they have to borrow money to pay.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
George Orwell's book Animal Farm
Submitted by lrgon on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:10pm.
comes to mind when the media ignore the faux pas of their favored class of people and attack those they despise.
The famous Orwellian phrase "some of us are more equal than others" describes the snootiness and the nastiness of the agenda-driven MSM. They aren't so stupid that they don't realize their own hypocrisy at going after some and letting others off the hook for doing the same thing. They just don't let their hypocrisy get in the way of their agenda. And shutting out dissent to their marxist agenda is an important facet to their overall scheme. http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/behind-the-big-news-propaganda-and-the-cfr/
Somewhat related is how the media treats the current occupant of the people's Executive House.
If the president had an epiphany tonight and repented of his marxist ways, by tomorrow morning the media would be denouncing him. Since he's not about to change his ways we can NEVER lose sight of the fact that he is a committed leftist that will only "move to the center" when he knows he can come out on top after the smoke clears. Therefore the media will treat him with kid gloves but will put on the mailed fist for anyone who steps outside the imaginary circle that the Media has drawn.
Wash-her-mouth-with-Schittz
Submitted by ConservaSerb on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:12pm.
Is a GIFT HORSE for the GOP. But it seems they're too dumb to realize it. Senior senators and representatives should be SCREAMING racism, using the libocommies' own tactics. But instead, RINOS like Dick the Loogie, Gray-ham-that's-nasty, the Maine twidiots . . . sit on the side line counting their money. They should be ashamed of themselves.
And as far as the libocommies crying about Wash-her-mouth-with-Schittz being "insulted," tell them to kiss our conservative asses. Once, JUST ONCE, I want a GOP elected official to call a rake . . . a rake.
A wise & frugal government, which shall leave men free 2 regulate their own pursuits of industry & improvement, & shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government. T. Jefferson
as this "double standard" is exposed-
Submitted by JIMMY1660 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:17pm.
folks like me take the names:terrorist/racist/bigot/homophobes to be a badge of courage.when nothing else works, lets call those conservatives names. SO BE IT!!!!
Is there a renewed push for
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:23pm.
Is there a renewed push for political correctness??? Didn't I just read that the 'white 'Spiderman got killed off, and has been replaced by a half black/half Latino guy...........who may possibly be gay..........and probably has big ears and is lactose-intolerant???
You heard right, Killa dude!
Submitted by Newsbubba on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 1:06pm.
Is this a great country or what?
Any day now Wonder Woman will be turned into a half-black, half-Latina, half-white, retarded (make that "special person") lesbian whore who wears her "Magic Belt" way up high under her boobs, a la Moochie chic. Each episode will be in a different country on vacation with 80 friends, all paid for by the taxpayer.
Surf up?
How do I explain this to my
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 1:21pm.
How do I explain this to my wonderful grandson when I take away the battery-powered Spiderman toothbrush that I bought him??
Hey......he's Hawaiian/Caucasion.........maybe I'll let him keep it!!! I don't need to mess up his fresh and innocent mind at this point............he's allready about $300K in debt, and he's only 5 years old!!! He'll learn soon enough.....................
Teach him well, Killa.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 2:58pm.
I keep telling my kids, and grand kids, that I'm not going to be here forever so they better damned well get interested in what is happening in Washington.
They are the ones who will have to fight this war, and it may very well turn into a real, live fight before it is over. I've very concerned that the youth of today, with the exception of the small minority who serve in the military are not prepared to fight.
Bambi is already taking steps to make the number of military trained Americans even smaller. Thay know damned well that most military, active duty and retired, are conservative and not prone to be mind numbed robots who will do every stupid thing they are ordered to do by a big eared, tin horn president.
So tell the kid to keep his Spiderman toothbrush and explain to him that the one he has is the REAL Spiderman, not some fake fairy Spiderman.
This is not the real
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 11:48am.
This is not the real Spider-Man. Peter Parker was killed off in Spider-Man Ultimate, which is a different universe in the comics books world, not the main one. The white Spider-Man is still alive and dwell. Feel better?
I could never feel better
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 2:59pm.
I could never feel better about obvious and blatent political correctness, because it's total BS. You think a half black/half Hispanic possibly gay Spiderman isn't a fabrication to please the PC crowd??? Not that I care much............I was never into comic books, and my grandson WILL know what's going on around him, as he grows up.
Unfortunatly, I don't think he'll be living under the same conditions as I did when I was growing up.
Why is it political
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 3:36pm.
Why is it political correctness to have a half-black half-Hispanic (NOT gay, that was a rumor) character take over Spider-Man in an alternate universe? Do half-black half-Hispanic people not exist? As I said, Peter Parker is still Spider-Man.
You're right...
Submitted by BosTarus on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 3:39pm.
the world will probably be much greater!
Anyhow, that aside, yeah, as Bal said-this is the alternate Ultimates line, with a separate history than the standard Marvel line; They even remodeled Nick Fury as Samuel L Jackson about a decade ago (long before they cast him in the movies... they just thought it'd be cool).
So don't get all hot and bothered about this-they're just introducing a new character for their alternate story line. The Spiderman on all of your grandkid's stuff will still be Peter Parker.
I guess the key word here is
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 4:43pm.
I guess the key word here is 'alternate universe'............sorta like the one our 3/8 black, 1/8 arabic, 1/2 white President lives in.
I won't back off 1/8 of an inch about the political correctness, but it's not worth argueing about either. And I don't read comic books.......the 'real' news is lucicrous enough!!
My grandson will be OK...........he's got good support and an ethical upbringing. He won't be another one of the ever-growing ranks of 'lost boys'...............
Alan West
Submitted by ofbbg on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:30pm.
Never forget that Alan West is a triple heretic. He's a Republican, he's a Conservative, and - most importantly - he's a Black Conservative Republican! He must NOT be allowed to spread the poison unto the beholden Black masses being held captive by their Liberal masters. He MUST BE DESTROYED, at all costs! Reminds you of the Spanish Inquisition, doesn't it? Or the approach taken by Muslim fanatics toward non-believers. Just sayin'.
All this proves to me is the
Submitted by Semus on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:33pm.
All this proves to me is the lefts true agenda isn't anything like what they want the "Useful Idiots" to believe it is. I think is large part for many of us that cat has been let out of the bag a long time ago.
All this proves to me is the
Submitted by Semus on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:35pm.
All this proves to me is the lefts true agenda isn't anything like what they want the "Useful Idiots" to believe it is. I think is large part for many of us that cat has been let out of the bag a long time ago.
WaPo's Lefty Milbank Declares War Against Lt. Col. Allen West
Submitted by Conservator on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:44pm.
It's a pathetic piece (see link below):
Lt. Col. Allen West fires a round at the Tea Party - August 03, 2011
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/lt-col-allen-west-fires-a-round-at-the-tea-party/2011/08/03/gIQAl2BnsI_story.html
Milbank writes, "From a bayonet charge to a Washington chess match: Talk about going native. The African American conservative with the flattop can still talk like a militant, calling Democrats “socialists” and “the enemy.” But on his first big test, West joined the socialist enemy in the soft middle."
Would the leftist elite, Dana Milbank, write anything akin about a Democratic liberal black Congressman? - NO, that would be racist.
Some poster on this thread is
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 1:27pm.
Some poster on this thread is trying to say that West is low-class, or immature, or whatever....................I say the hell with it!!! You don't 'win' (terribly non-politically correct word!!) by being nice to the 'enemy' (another terrible word!!!)...........especially the libs/Dems.....AND their willing accomplices in the MSM. We should be busting their ba**s at every opportunity- with truth, facts, honesty, and, of course, good cheer and a positive attitude, whenever possible. And if it isn't possible - as in with some of these real scumsuckers like Whatshername-Shulzzzz (and a host of others that I could name who have ZERO class), then we're just going to have to lay it out, plain and simple. They can't handle it either way, so what's the difference????
I'm proud to have voted for West
Submitted by GW on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 3:06pm.
and I will vote for him again. But, I admit to being disappointed that he voted Yes for the recent debt deal because it does raise the debt limit. I would have preferred him to have voted No, which Bachmann did.
In his email to his constituents, he explained why he voted Yes and I see where he is coming from, and he wasn't completely happy with voting Yes. He said that he himself would have preferred Cut, Cap, and Balance. I think he will continue to work towards that, so he still has my support.
So, yeah, he may have comprimised a bit, but he had good reasons and a good ultimate goal.
Thank you GW
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 4:26pm.
You said that perfectly.
For me, too, as a constituent.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
What ya doin Blonde?
Submitted by cocodrie on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 6:17pm.
Doubling down on on a winner? I'll trade you a Jefferson and a Landrieu for your West.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
You betcha! Doublin' down
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 8:23pm.
OMO, I haven't had a dread "double" in a couple of years.
Oops!
But I am happy to have double posted with big thumbs up for Allen!
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Thank you GW
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 4:26pm.
You said that perfectly.
For me, too, as a constituent.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
politically correct
Submitted by Agnostic on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:57pm.
"Do you think the overt push for political correctness has led to this double standard?"
No, the reversal is true, imo. The absolute need for this double standard to push the leftist agenda requires the pushing of political correctness as a tool to pull the rug out from under anyone who would dare try to point out the double standard.
There is no double standard.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 1:08pm.
Republicans have a standard, but dims have NONE. Hence, a single standard. They're just pond scum, which cannot be expected to adhere to a standard of any sort.
The "don't sink to their level" nonsense is meaningless.
Submitted by drsamherman on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 1:12pm.
The most basic rule of conflict says that you engage a hostile force on terms familiar to it. Being polite to a brainless political thug like Dimwit Debbie is a waste of effort.
As my technie friend says, she has an dial-up brain and a T1 mouth. She is a trench-warfare Democrat who will sell out her mother and stepfather (if they don't end up in prison) to get ahead. She is not quite intelligent enough to have read the Alinsky playbook, but like any good imitator she picked up the idea quickly after her political coaches demonstrated it to her using dolls.
I"ve had termites in my
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 1:31pm.
I"ve had termites in my house............I also get centipedes sometimes...........and cockroaches (hey, I live in rural Hawaii!!!).....
and even ant attacks on occasion. My cat takes care of the vermin. These other critters..........................I find 'em and I kill 'em, or - I guess I should use a more poliltically-correct term - I 'eliminate' them.
As for my cat............well, she doesn't know the meaning of 'politically correct', so she does what cats do when she tracks down a mouse or a rat. If she could run for office, I'd vote for her.
Your cat's name wouldn't
Submitted by stratman on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 4:34pm.
Your cat's name wouldn't happen to be Mrs. McKillaKitty?
Just think how she could clean out both houses of Congress. :-)
Funny, strat..............( I
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 6:40pm.
Funny, strat..............( I could never play a Stratocaster very well......or a Telecaster either....they are VERY sensitive!!! I did have a Jazzmaster, which was a good rhythm guitar............but usually I played Gibsons, for the thick and meaty rhythm sound). My cat is Oreo.....she's black and white, and just an average sized cat. I can't believe some of the rats she's pulled in...........they'd scare me!!! I have a valley on my property, with a stream down below, so I'm sure there are a lot of rats & mice down there, although I'd have to say that they are STUPID, because Oreo has 'eliminated' HUNDREDS of them in the few years that I've had her..........you'd think they'd move down the valley a little bit. I also have wild Hawaiian pigs down there..........I wouldn't be surprised if she dragged one of them up here to my house!!!
Yep, she could do some major vermin exterminating in Congress and the White House.
Go Oreo!
Submitted by stratman on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:22pm.
I love all the guitars you mentioned, and quite a few more. I seem to be on a break from playing now. Consequently, I am not acquiring gear either. Good for the wallet but maybe not so much the soul.
Speaking of rats... saw a PBS show today about an Australian rat researcher somewhere in Asia tracking a cyclical phenomena of rats reproducing like crazy and then eating all the crops in one night that subsistence farmers grew. The cycle was initiated by bamboo fruit falling on the ground which triggered an unnatural 4 cycles of reproduction in a short time such that the number of rats culminated in their evening of frenzied voracious eating. When the bamboo fruit fell in relation to planting and maturation time before harvest determined which village's food was wiped out or not in this every 48 year (?) event. (yes, the villagers ate rat as part of their regular diet)
Hope that doesn't happen where you're at, otherwise you might want Oreo to start a family... a big family... to keep a lid on things. :-)
Well, I had a 61 Jazzmaster
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 12:33am.
Well, I had a 61 Jazzmaster in high school - my first electric, with a DeLuxe amp - beige color. I used to play in over-21 bars and roadhouses when I was a junior and senior - talk about getting an education that I could never have gotten in high school!!! It's a good thing that my parents didn't know what the hell was going on in those places. My dad was just amazed that I'd make $15-$20 a night for 'playing that damn guitar'!!! I think that damn guitar would be worth something today.
And I did go to college for a while - and I had bands - and I acquired an old, original Gibson Melody Maker, which was pretty cool. And I played bass in one band, so I had a maroon Gibson SG bass - a la Jack Bruce (but this was before Cream), and it was good because it was smaller, and I could play and sing at the same time. I also bought one of those original Rickenbacker basses......but the neck seemed really long after playing the Gibson.
Actually, in high school, I had a Danelectro (black and white, like my cat), and my good friend who also played in the band had a Kay - both very cheap guitars, but WOW, what a sound!!! I actually poked a couple holes in my speaker to get that thick 'Rumble' tone......my friends thought I was out of my mind!!!
I also had a Gibson 335 later on, which was a great rhythm guitar for the set-up I was playing in, because it has a great thick bottom tone, and a good middle tone............and good warm sustain and bite. I've seen BB King live, and Lucille is something like that............I'lll tell you, his 'live' tone is WAY heavier and more intense than his recorded tone!!!
These days I've got a SG custom (a la Angus Young) , and a reproduction Danelectro.........but I keep a little 3/4 size acoustic in my truck - for the beach and lunch time at work...........and I have a really nice jumbo acoustic here at home. I rarely play electric anymore, although I played one at a party not too long ago, and I did OK.
There's a guy over here - a chiropractor from Japan - who is a real blues afficianado and a damn good guitart player. You should see the collection this guy has!!! It's got to be worth multi-six figures, if not more!!!
I'll tell Oreo your story!!!
Great story. All those fun
Submitted by stratman on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 12:13pm.
Great story. All those fun guitars and gigs. Hear you about playing dives.
My first electric (black with 2 humbucks on a Stratocaster-like body) and acoustic were Epiphone. My first amp was a Gibson Hawk - 25 watt, 2 channel, spring reverb and tremelo, and 15" speaker. I still have all three of them, for sentimental reasons, but the amp is in pieces. It had that "rumble" tone from a tear, but I didn't poke it on purpose. ;-)
Last guitar I bought was the 1961 reissue SG when it came out. Played it a couple times and then packed it away. Went back to my Strat. Sorry, don't mean to pain you. I was tinkering with the idea of a Gretsch Duo Jet.
The collection of the chiropracter's sounds awesome, and even better if he lets you play them. I know some guys who rent temp/humidity controlled spaces just for their guitars. Insane collections.
Oh well, all it takes is money.
I was working for another
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 2:08pm.
I was working for another contracter at the time, and we were building a house for this Japanese chiropractor - this was some years ago. I knew the guy played....and he also surfed, so I'd see him around off the job too. He's a pretty nice guy. Once I saw him at the beach when I was getting ready to go surfing. I asked him if he was going out also. He said, in his Japanese accent, that he had just flown back from Japan, and was suffering from 'jet rag'!!! I also remember talking to him once, and he told me that he thought 'Eric Crapton is a good brues-man'!!!
I helped him outfit his guitar room, actually. He gave me his handdrawn plans about how he wanted it to be, and we made the place like that, with the AC and humidifiers and all of the hooks hanging from the wall in the spaces that he wanted them. Then he started to bring his equipment over when he was moving in, and I helped him Jeez.........the guitars just kept coming!!! And he's got some CLASSICS!!! Nothng phony there!!! Plus he had some great classic amps too!!! Yeah, he let me play a couple....he probably still would, if I visited him. I've sat in with their band a couple of times - since I know the guys - but usually they had me do some Howlin' Wolf impersonation or some other blues classic.....they've got good players.
Nah.....I always had a lot of respect for people who could play those ultra-sensitive Fenders!! I saw Hendrix over here four times - he loved coming to Hawaii. Telecasters scared the hell out of me, because if you breathed wrong, they would make an ugly sound!! Those C&W players are in another ballpark. Even Keef plays an old Tele.......but he's a riff'n'rhythm guy. Springsteen plays one too...........well, he sort of abuses it!!!
Ya can't disrespect Gretsches!!! George Harrison sure did OK with his. Chet Atkins??? I've seen Stephen Stills on one, and Brian Setzer plays the hell out of his too. I always thought they were pretty cool.
Ahhhh..........playing in those dives and roadhouses was really a once-in-a-lifetime thing. It was impossible for me to take the high school girls too seriously!!! Hahahaha!!! I didn't have too many 'dates', because I was usually playing on weekends, but the action was way more exciting!!!
Keep spankin' the plank!!
'I've never had any problem with obscene notes'..................Billy F. Gibbons
Dayam, Killa! You are living
Submitted by stratman on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 7:10pm.
Dayam, Killa! You are living one charmed life!
Hendrix 4 times? Good golly Miss Molly! I don't think his sister saw him that many times back in the 60's in concert or not.
Yeah, a lot of great players have used Gretsch's. Course you can say that about many guitars nowadays. As usual, it ain't the axe but the chops behind it that counts. I could squeeze out a decent a note or two but no one's gonna ask me to tour with Eric Crapton. :-)
I have a 1977 Telecaster from the stoopid CBS era. Has a ding on the front that someone did a poor job of touching up before I bought it, but the rest is in fantastic shape It is a little touchy now that you mention, but it can chicken scratch even if I can't.
Speaking about Les Pauls, there was one I wish hadn't gotten away. A used early 2000's some guy brought in to sell while I was in the store. Plugged into a random Marshall at the store without futzing with controls, it gave the most amazing sustain and tone. Guitar played like butter. I balked cause he was asking top dollar. Couple days later called the guy up and it was gone. So I turned to my trusty, always at the ready, low maintenance, never complaining, lighter than a Les Paul Stratocaster.
Hendrix' sister probably
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 7:56pm.
Hendrix' sister probably DIDN'T see him four times.............they sure had that poor guy moving non-stop!!! I think the business killed him, actually. I also caught Zep at a small old auditorium in Honolulu on their first tour.......there might have been 2,500 people there, and I could stand pretty close!!! They were GOOD!!! Page mostly played his Les Paul - you wonder how such a skinny little Englishman can carry all that hair AND that heavy guitar!!! But he also pulled out a Danelectro for a couple of numbers, as well as his SG doubleneck - although this was before 'Stairway to Heaven'.........or was that 'Stairway to Free Bird'!!!
He also did his violen bow thing - with some delay and effects............but that guy can play as well as anybody every could!!1''
Oh yeah........caught the Jeff Beck group too, back then - with Rod Stewart on vocals, Ronnie Wood on bass, Nicky Hopkins on piano, and Mickey Waller on drums...............now THEY kicked some serious butt too!!!! Lotta ego-interplay between young Stewart and the allready-rock-legend Beck....which was maybe 1968???? Now you've got to think about how long Ronnie Wood has been on the scene...............
Yeah.......one of the times I saw Hendrix, I was pretty close, and on his side of the stage.............I'm not sure what planet the guy was from, but he sure as hell was in sync with his axe!!! And, during a drum solo by the ever-so-finesseful Mitch Mitchell, I swear I saw Hendrix take one drag from a cigarette - off stage - that burned the WHOLE cigarette!!!!
I also saw Ike Turner change a string onstage in about 7 seconds flat, while Tina and the girls were prancing away!!!
Truly awesome memories. Ike
Submitted by stratman on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 11:29pm.
Truly awesome memories.
Ike probably blamed Tina for the broken string and whipped her with it. Sick dude, even if he could play.
The first big concert I went to was http://www.clevelandrockandroll.com/en/component/k2/item/1720-todd-rundg.... To me it was like Woodstock with so many people spread out in the blazing hot sun. This was the summer Frampton was recording Frampton Comes Alive!, and he played a lot of it. Don't know if they were recording but none of it ended up on the album as far as I know.
I went there to hear one of my favorite bands, Pure Prairie League. I remember some things about that day like it was yesterday. They all were good, even the Hello People and their one hit wonder Future Shock. (just read that Rundgren backed the band - probably how they got on the ticket)
Pretty tame compared to the stuff you cut your teeth on, but it was big time for me. :-)
The Runt lives a couple miles
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 08/06/2011 - 4:40am.
The Runt lives a couple miles down the highway from me...........he's good friends with a guy I used to be in a couple bands with. We did a big jam at Rundgren's birthday party a few years ago.......lots of fun. I only know him casually, but he's around when he's not working.
I remember PPL.....they had a good sound. I think that you're younger than me......but that's good for you!!!
Actually,in the 60's, we'd get a lot of acts coming through Honolulu - and at the time, I lived on the north shore, so we'd drive in and see these bands whenever they came to play. I saw Creedence before they broke big - they were really tight and very good. They blew away the headliner, which was Vanilla Fudge - an east coast psuedo-drama/soul white band. We saw the Doors, but they were a disapponitment, unfortunatly. The Stones did about a 25 minute amphetimine laced gig when I was in high school, with Brian Jones. The Beatles played here - but I wasn't here at that time. That would've been good, if you could hear them, because they were, at one time, a very tight band.
Saw Stevie Ray 3 times......now that boy can play!!! First time, he was opening for the Police, and nobody knew who he was, so I got to stand right in front of the stage. You know his one favorite guitar - the sunburts Strat?? There's a reason it looks like that.........he beat the living hell out of it!!! And threw it on the stage during 'Third Stone from the Sun', and was 'walking' it with his strap, and stomping on the wah-wah bar while his amps were sounding like a damn out of control freight-train!!! AND holding it down with his boot while he bent the neck upward, to create even more of a wild multi-dimensional sound!!!
Yeah..........Ike.......but the guy has some history in the blues - he was there, you know??? He's played with Muddy Waters and a Howlin' Wolf and a lot of those other Chicago guys back in the early 50's.........you can't take it away from him. I actually had a short fling with a girl who worked for Tina, when they were still together. She pretty much verified all of these Ike stories. She also said that Tina is always wearing a wig........or 'wighat', as they say.
I don't get to see much anymore, especially on the island where I live. One of my ex-bandmates plays bass for Taj Mahal, so I've seen them a couple of times here. I caught the Butch Trucks Band recently - really really good, and his wife came up and did a couple numbers, and she is great. I know Tom Petty's road manager, and he'd like to get Petty to play over here, but it's big bucks, and we probably couldn't support the gig, unless he wanted to take a loss, just to play here and have a little vacation.
Hell, Graham Nash, Glenn Frey, the lead singer for Red Hot Chile Peppers, Rundgren........and other's that I forget all live over here part-time or have houses here............that guy who starred in 'the Big Lebowski' used to live up the road from me....what's his name??? Micheal something??? I'd see him driving on my road. I even saw Steven Tyler boppin' down a country road a few years ago when we were building a house down by this little bay.
Oh yeah.....Stephen Stills sat in with our band one night.......great player, massive ego. Kenny Loggin's drummer BEGGED us to sit in one night too.......he wanted to 'play some rock'!!! Hahahaha!!! Boy........he laid down the law!!!
Ahhhhhhhhhh.........it's a lot of fun, and it's mental and spiritual relief from the never-ending BS that goes on in this world.
Keep spanking the plank, strat...........
'I've never had any problems with obscene notes'..................Billy F. Gibbons
You're Killa-ing Me!
Submitted by stratman on Sat, 08/06/2011 - 3:39pm.
The biggest player I've ever sat in with, for all of 2 seconds, was a top ten (or was it top 20 - lol) harmonica guy my neighbor had over for some jamming
PM sent your way.
Gutter Ball Debs
Submitted by stratman on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 4:31pm.
Good post. This is why you get the psychiatric big bucks. ;)
In simple terms, reasoning with a bully results in more bullying. Unless the bully has some life changing event to alter their disposition, or interest in a new target takes hold, the only way to stop the behavior of the bully is to not only mirror their behavior but to do so in an overwhelming fashion.
Battles/fights are not won because both sides are evenly match - they are won because the winner is superior in one or more areas of the skills, weaponry, conditioning, commitment, etc.
An obvious exception was Gandhi's non-violent protests. This tactic worked because the British felt shame. Debbie WhereMyBrain Shitz, (of the Wasserman Crime Family) and many other Leftists apparently, have no shame.
I predict..
Submitted by Djinn1975 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 2:04pm.
all Democrats will eventually fit into one of two categories, 1) Women and 2) All races other than Caucasian.
This will enable them to continue the liberal time honored tradition of avoiding any and all criticism on policy, stance, etc. by utterly ignoring issues at hand to cry racism and sexism.
Ahhhhh, less than 36 hours to
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 2:22pm.
Ahhhhh, less than 36 hours to go before the mandatory 2 week vacation starts. Ireland here I come!!!!!!!
Looks like it is a balmy 55 degrees or so there. Will be a change from the 90 plus temp and humidity that NYC has been subjected to.
Scoob-
Submitted by bkeyser on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 2:37pm.
Ireland huh? Cool. I mean groovy.
Saw Def Leppard over the weekend. Got some pics on my Flickr site. Great, great show. Heart opened and they were really good too. I hadn't seen them before.
I will check them out when I
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 2:40pm.
I will check them out when I can bk. Nice lineup you saw, though I will say I lost interest in Def Leppard after the "Adrenalize" album.
Scoob
Submitted by bkeyser on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 3:53pm.
They played their new one "Undefeated" which is more like something off of Hysteria, and "Rock On" from Yeah, and everything else except "Two Steps Behind" was from Hysteria or older. I recorded "Two Steps" only because my crappy little digital camera couldn't handle the heavy sound from the non-acoustic stuff. That's on the Flickr site too, in three parts due to the 90sec limitation Flickr has for video. There's also a Heart set when you're looking around. One brief recording of them, same reason but Ann can still really sing. Anyway, great show, great seats, good time all around.
They were pretty good picks.
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:42pm.
They were pretty good picks. You looked like you were somewhat close to the stage. How's the hearing? ;-)
Yeah Scoob
Submitted by bkeyser on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:58pm.
We were Row G, so, A, B, C... from the standing area, center section just left of the T stage. Great seats. As for the hearing, well, I was in arty, remember...
Ahhh yes, how can I forget
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 8:12pm.
Ahhh yes, how can I forget that? :-)
Of course that means I MUST post this yet again.
I never tire of watching this.
How were the Wilson sisters
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 1:08am.
How were the Wilson sisters looking??? The guitar player is a babe, in my opinion..........and she can spank the plank too!!! The lead singer has some pipes, and is quite good looking.......but apparantly doesn't pay attention to Mooooooooooooochelle's diet policies. I saw a video biography on Heart.............jeez, they were as incestuous and messed- up as anyone else that you could imagine!!!
My son went to a Def Leppard concert a while ago - he's 30, so they are a little before his time. But he said he was going to rent a poodle haircut wig, and wear a tank top, and cut up some tight jeans...........and then see if he could 'pull some 40-year-olds'!!
Hahahaha!!!! The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree!!! But he said thay were pretty good, although he wasn't real familiar with their material.
killa
Submitted by bkeyser on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 12:19pm.
Here's some pics and one short vid of Heart. Ann still sings fantastic- Nancy is still Nancy in every respect. I first saw Leppard in '83, then the next time in '03. I've seen them several times since and they were as good this time as I've ever seen them.
"You can't hit a GIRL!!!"-
Submitted by johnsonl on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 2:24pm.
-Debbie Washerwoman-Schotzie
"No, but I can tell one to shut up!"- Allen West
Then, Deb had the audacity to try to sick her female colleagues on West for "sexually harassing" her.
Does this idiot even know what "sexual harassment" is? Does she think that this is a threat to hurl at a man when she's not getting her way?
By a show of hands, how many of you guys would consider putting Deb and sex in the same thought pattern?
Please notice my hands are
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 2:26pm.
Please notice my hands are NOT raised.
This is classic
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 3:39pm.
10 ugly comments made by 10 even uglier liberal women.
ricklail
Submitted by MrShy on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 5:56pm.
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Mr. Shy stepped on
Submitted by MrShy on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 5:50pm.
John Stossel's foot today, backing up while trying to exit the high tech security system at News Corp's headquarters in NYC. He's fine. I had an interview at the Rupert Murdoch "palace" for a digital/web design freelance job :)
No, I did not rub shoulders (or feet) with any other biggies, although I was not far from Hannity, O'Reilly, and the rest, I'm sure.
FYI, Stossel's maybe 5' 10", tops ;)
- Shy on Vinyl
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Mr Shy
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 5:59pm.
Good luck to you. Hope you get it.
Another example of AP's feckiosity...
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 6:29pm.
File under "If You Didn't Know Better, You'd Assume That..."
Now we all know today is the day we celebrate the Saviour's birth. So the Birthday Boy has a cookout/party @ the WH.
The AP is right there giving us all the details. They tell us "Even on her husband's birthday, Michelle Obama couldn't resist poking fun at his graying hair."
Gee, sounds like Mooch was there, instead of in Spain on another Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous vacation. Nowhere do the words Spain or vacation appear in the 12 paragraph "article."
~It isn't "political correctness" at all
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:35pm.
It's bias in the favor of liberals. Liberal men can say whatever nasty, sick, perverted nonsense comes into their heads about Palin, Bachmann, Malkin, or Coulter and you don't hear a peep from the Righteous Indignation Professionals of the Left. Liberal men and women can make the vilest accusations against conservative black men without being called racist, while no conservative is allowed to have philosophical differences with Obama; it's always really about his race. It isn't about being politically correct, it's about defending the Left and it's agenda. Which is power. Unlimited power over as many people as possible. If you get in the way of that they'll do their best to make you a greasy spot on the carpet.
They are in for one hell of a surprise.
Communist Party USA endorses comrade Obama & dems for 2012
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 10:08pm.
LOL - Yeah, what a shocker this is.
Birds of a feather, dontcha know.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
I DID inform a variety of my
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 2:25am.
I DID inform a variety of my lib acquaintences before the last (s)election that the Commies AND the Socialists were endorsing Boy Barry, as well as getting fund-raising and illegal contributions from Moooooooooooooooooooslem countries...........but they either called me a liar, or didn't want to hear about it. So it's no surprise that he's getting these endorsments again. And it'll be no surprise that a lot of these dopes will have the same reaction........although I have to say that I DO know a few of them that have 'seen the light'..........which, unfortunatly, has come at a much later time than when you and me and others have 'seen the darkness'!!!