Open Thread: Does the Environmental Agenda Have Parallels to Communism?
Global warming, aka climate change, is the scapegoat for everything from record snowfalls to disastrous tornadoes. As such, it is also the perfect route for governments to closely control their citizens by regulating the smallest of details, like which lightbulbs they are allowed to use, to supposedly fix the problem.
Czech President Vaclav Klaus, who grew up under totalitarian rule, is speaking out against what he sees as the latest government attack on democratic freedom, environmentalism, which he argues closely parallels the thefts of freedom under communism. Do you agree with him? Let us know what you think in the comments.
Earlier this week, both Klaus and Australian Greens party senator Christine Milne spoke in Australia on global warming, offering a clear juxtaposition between their two ideologies.
As Klaus explained in his speech to a group of climate change realists,
I feel threatened now, not by global warming -- I don't see any -- (but) by the global warming doctrine, which I consider a new dangerous attempt to control and mastermind my life and our lives, in the name of controlling the climate or temperature. [...]
They don't care about resources or poverty or pollution.
They hate us, the humans. They consider us dangerous and sinful creatures who must be controlled by them.
I used to live in a similar world called communism. And I know it led to the worst environmental damage the world has ever experienced.
[Global warming alarmists] want to change us, they want to change our behaviour, our way of life, our values and preferences. They want to restrict our freedom because they themselves believe they know what is good for us. They are not interested in climate. They misuse the climate in their goal to restrict our freedom. Therefore ...what is in danger is freedom, not the climate.
While he sees clear parallels between the erosion of freedoms associated with global warming legislation, Milne's speech instead drew parallels between anti-carbon tax Australians peacefully protesting to the crazed Norwegian gunman, Anders Breivik, and called for an investigation of those in the media who were also anti-carbon tax.
Klaus argued politicians globally, like Milne, are attempting to ignore and silence their critics in favor of greater power and control over them through green laws. Do you agree with him?
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Yes, Green is the new Red.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 10:26am.
What is Communism Part 1
Part 2
You Didn't Build That.
Environmentalism...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 2:18pm.
Is the home of modern communism, socialism, marxism, and fascism. Seems like to only ones who learned anything were the Imperialist Japanese.
This is why the agenda is the main goal of any public screwel in this Country. That goal is even higher than the homosexual agenda drilled into the children. Brainwashing the children and telling them that mother earf is more sensitive than the parents of the children. They cause children to not trust their parents.
The threat after WWII and through the Cold War was that we would be destroyed from the inside, after many years... And it is happening.
With the help of the liberal/progressive/democrat party.
Another great link, UpCountryWater
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 2:24pm.
Communism - A Lying, Dirty, Shrewd, Godless, Murderous, Determined, International Criminal Conspiracy that sounds remarkably similar to “The Environmental Movement.”
Slightly off-topic: It is predicted to be 111 degrees where I live today.
My personal take is: “The communists/socialists/environmentalists tell me, to set the thermostat at 80 degrees to save energy – A Capitalist will find a way to deliver more energy, at a cheaper cost, so I can set the thermostat to 75.“
- Grump :o)
P.s.: I keep the thermostat at 85 degrees… not because I buy into the AGW crud, but because it’s a very comfortable setting to me.
Thanks Grump
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 2:44pm.
The enviro kooks, want to be in control, so a good commie video is appropriate.
Is that 111 in real degrees, Or heat index, or the new one on the block Realfeel.
So a NASA satellite sez, the Earth sheds heat faster than than the CO-2 models state. What you wanna bet the folks in control will be twisting some data collection dials on that satellite, ya know re-calibrate.
You Didn't Build That.
My mistake, upcountrywater
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 3:03pm.
OK, my mistake… I took the predicted temp off my I-Phone what-cha-ma-call-it, but according to “AccuWeather,com” it’s only going to be 107 today (Brrrr) which will “feel like” 109… personally I feel like having a cold glass of beer – too bad it’s hardly noon! (Lol).
As far as the CO2 models... I have no clue about that kind of stuff! (Although I did have a model of a B-17 once.)
- Grump :o)
Ahhh Grump, I remember the good old days.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 3:16pm.
Used to work in tobacco when I was 8 or 10 years old and it was 105 degrees with a good old southern humidity of 98!
What a life. They even paid me the same $.50 an hour that the grownups made.
These wussies today wouldn't last till lunch time much less supper. That's when you went home to a house with no A/C, but a great front porch so you could cool down.
Yeah… “the good old days”
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 3:37pm.
...and some that were just so-so, and quite a few that really stunk!
Although it wasn't till I became an adult during the Carter administration that I realized how really, really awful a long streach of liberalism could seem!
Best wishes,
- Grump o)
If o'bama gets another term...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 2:47pm.
HE will control your thermostat and set your comfort level for you.
“We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times … and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,” O'bama said.
He is about to slam the auto industry with higher mileage standards!
And Michelle will dictate your calorie intake, as well as what foods you are "allowed to possess", as she eats from the rib joint with fries and shakes...
USMC8411, You're right!
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 3:12pm.
A blind man with no sense of touch or hearing can see the hypocrisy coming from the mouth of our “Dear Leader” and his handlers… err make that a “conservative blind man…” all the rest are just hopeless at this juncture.
- Grump :o)
Well, the environuts aren't
Submitted by MikeB on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 10:25am.
Well, the environuts aren't called "watermelons" for nothing. They're green on the outside and red on the inside.
Love the Reagan quote!
Submitted by Dave81 on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 11:24am.
Love the Reagan quote!
Duh?!?!
Submitted by Newsbubba on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 10:32am.
Meanwhile watch this excellent explanation of our current problems and who is the cause. Watch the entire video. It will amaze you.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/43924372
inch by inch ...
Submitted by Fredy on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 10:32am.
The environmentalists have been strangling the USA for decades.
Now, they want 'justice for the world' placed on the backs of the USA.
The agenda is clear, the environmentalists want to make the people of the USA SLAVES to the world.
Is this communism? Or is this something far worse?
"Does the Environmental
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 10:32am.
"Does the Environmental Agenda Have Parallels to Communism?"
Sure, why not.
→ Good answer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 11:44am.
MY! How insightful of you!
Hey, whatever keeps the
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 11:48am.
Hey, whatever keeps the "rage" going. ;-)
→ At least you're on record
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 11:56am.
I guess it's something that you agree there are connections between the Green Movement and Communism.
Don't know if there really
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 2:24pm.
Don't know if there really are, but what they heck, if it makes conservatives feel better, let's do it.
Well said balboa...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 2:50pm.
Let's apply your intelligent thought process to the deficit too! Let's not raise the budget limit, let's cut spending, and let's take the Country back to solvency!
NASA has determined otherwise
Submitted by texusmc on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 10:43am.
and here is the link that blows a huge hole in the whole AGW debate.
http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism...
But hey, lets not let FACTS into the picture. After all, how can they regulate, subjugate or even out right outlaw you and I if they let facts get in the way.
13
Submitted by GW on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 1:55pm.
= the number of times the word "alarmist" appears in that article.
It's nice tyo have some vocabulary on our side for a change.
Signed,
A Climate Skeptic, er, realist, er non-alarmist, um, oh forget it.
of course it does
Submitted by ohio granny on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 10:46am.
the environmental movement (cult) ??? certainly is like communists. Most progressives/democrats and liberals are too. They all believe in forcing everyone into their way of thinking. You follow (shut up) or else. According to them, it is all for your own good, even though most intelligent people know it is really for the ruling class. Why else do they constantly try to brainwash everyone to accept what they say??
Earth was here long before they were and it will be here long after they are gone.
Who was it that said...
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 10:49am.
...Green is the new Red.
(upcountrywater beat me to the punch. [sigh] )
This link was firmly established long even before climategate.
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
is environmentalism a socialist front?
Submitted by MidAmerica on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 10:53am.
Is the Pope Catholic?
IT'S OFFICIAL
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 11:00am.
Frontpagemag has made it official. Sheila Jackson Lee is the DUMBEST person in Congress and possibly the US.
Yesterday the dumbest person in Congress called for hearings on right wing extremists.
Absolutely...
Submitted by c5then on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 11:09am.
It has little to do with the issue that they bring up as a "crisis", it has everything to do with controlling the masses and deciding who gets to use resources and how much.
This is just progressivism that has hijacked meteorology and climatology for it's use. The underlying premis is that there are those really smart and sophisticated elites who understand how everything works together and they should be making the decisions for all. It is the old "planning" ideology that springs out of Marxism and refuses to be silenced even when there is tons of empiracle data that it doesn't work. Why doesn't it work? There are two primary reasons:
1) Humans are not anywhere near smart enough to understand how everything fits together and interacts.
2) Humanity is loaded with corrupt and immoral members who gravitate toward positions of power so they can bennefit themselves at the expense of everyone else.
So because of reason #1, the decisions will always be flawed and the unintended consequenses will range from annoying to catastrophic. Because of reason #2, the desicions will over-time become about benefitting a small group of elites and not the general populace as a whole.
This is why Communism / Socialism always devolves to dictatorship and always fails miserably. It is unsustainable.
Regardless of whether there is a change in climate, or we are witnessing a simple cyclical perturbation, the attempt to control the climate by way of restricting the energy use of advanced nations will fail and it will lead to catastrophic consequenses if it is tried.
The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is less than 1% of the total. The amount of CO2 that humans contribute to the atmosphere on a yearly basis is less than 0.003% of that. The analogy is that if we all stood on the shore and pissed into the sea at once, we could affect the tides. The whole idea is patently absurd and actually shows the arrogance of the global warming proponents.
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
LOL!!
Submitted by GW on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 2:01pm.
"The analogy is that if we all stood on the shore and pissed into the sea at once, we could affect the tides."
WHAT? WHAT?????
Submitted by USMC8411 on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 2:57pm.
You mean "The analogy is that if we all stood on the shore and pissed into the sea at once, we could affect the tides", is something we CANNOT do?
Somebody get Hank on the line...
Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) is afraid that the U.S. Territory of Guam is going to "tip over and capsize" due to overpopulation.
So much for o'bama's plan to raise the sea level...
I'm willing to test this
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 7:17pm.
I'm willing to test this empirically if someone will supply the booze.
Czech President Vaclav Klaus'
Submitted by stratman on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 11:14am.
Czech President Vaclav Klaus' belief that Environmentalism is a form of Communism has been known in American political and business circles since at least early 2007. Even before this, I recall reading how various environmental groups were hijacked by extremists many years ago, such as Green Peace and nutjob Robert F. Kennedy, Jr's and friends taking over the Hudson river environmental group Riverkeeper - both entities have been criticized by former members for the extreme swings in positions after Leftists took control.
Charles Krauthammer and Rush Limbaugh have both discussed the communistic methodologies of Environmentalism back in 2008. So, this is not a new revelation at all, but it is important to refresh people's minds on the Left's Marxist ideological purity in their activism no matter the names they adopt or the patina of Americana tradition they try to fool people with.
And if the warnings of the above are not enough to give one pause on the subject, how about the Left exposing their Marxism proudly for all to see as in the following article from treehugger.com called "6 Green Lessons We Can Learn From Communism". These people are not only fools, they are dangerous fools.
Gee, I don't know! Hey,
Submitted by Rusty Shackleford on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 11:16am.
Gee, I don't know!
Hey, here's an Open Thread idea for tomorrow! Is fire hot? I'm not sure if it is!
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Chris Matthews: The Joy Behar of MSNBC.
Bill Maher: The Joy Behar of HBO.
Paul Krugman: The Joy Behar of The New York Times.
Dixie Lee Ray
Submitted by billyjack on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 11:21am.
This revelation of the socialist/communist take over of the enviromental movement was well discussed in Dixie Lee Ray's "Apocalypse Not" a while back. Even the founders of Greenpeace left the organization after it was taken over by Marxists. The brainwashed Secular Socilaists that follow the dogma are classic examples of Lenin's "useful idiots".
Global Warmers also
Submitted by Rusty Shackleford on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 11:24am.
Global Warmers also demonstrate the worst and most obnoxious attributes of the strongly religious. I just posted this today somewhere else:
We are constantly bombarded with complaints against religious fundamentalists for this and that, but environmental fundamentalists take all of the negative attributes of religious fundamentalists and crank it up about 1000 notches.
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Chris Matthews: The Joy Behar of MSNBC.
Bill Maher: The Joy Behar of HBO.
Paul Krugman: The Joy Behar of The New York Times.
Like
Submitted by GW on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 3:08pm.
.
Short Answer is
Submitted by KornKing on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 11:26am.
Yes
The environmental agenda IS communism
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 11:29am.
If it's green, it's really red.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Obama "Let's spread the wealth" pencil sharpener
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 11:34am.
Ouch.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Absolutely
Submitted by bkeyser on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 11:39am.
When the UN issued the report recently that the entire issue could be solved for $76T, they explicitly confirmed Global Warming could be eradicated through the re-distribution of money by a single, governing faction.
Interesting related note
Submitted by bkeyser on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 12:48pm.
in Forbes. Another hole, but not in the ozone; this one is in the computer models.
[Edit follows]
Strangely, here's another one. Poor polar bears? Maybe not.
Yes!
Submitted by expatriot on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 11:43am.
Klaus is and has been dead on for a long time. He is outspoken and not afraid to take on the warmists who want to control our every move. They know what kind of toilet we need in our houses, what light bulbs to use, what cars to drive, what source of power we need to use, etc. Then the Hypocrites do everything they tell us not to do. Keep at 'em Klaus!
No, it doesn't have parallels
Submitted by Satchmo on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 11:50am.
No, it doesn't have parallels to communism; it is firmly rooted in communism.
No one cares paultard.
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 12:11pm.
Your head is firmly rooted in Ron Paul's rear. Go away.
Hey Vet, Wouldn't you say
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 12:38pm.
Hey Vet,
Wouldn't you say Incestmo is like Pop Tech without the links?
I really liked POPTECH when
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 7:32pm.
I really liked POPTECH when he was bulldogging on the AGW or another cause other than RP.
Scoob, Pop Tech was fine right up until he became...
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 7:47pm.
...a card-carrying member of the He Man Woman-Haters Club.
It was too bad, really, as he was once among the most respected members here.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Pooptech has a case of PDS
Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 8:12pm.
Pooptech has a case of PDS rivalled only by members of the Make Believe Media.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Pop was popped
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 8:17pm.
by the power of Palin.
Jer
Jer,
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 8:27pm.
LOL - Yeah, or either he was pooped out from keeping up with all those links.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
It was sad to see someone who
Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 8:31pm.
It was sad to see someone who had been sane turn into a deranged misogynist.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Yes I agree. The entire GREEN
Submitted by Semus on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 12:01pm.
Yes I agree. The entire GREEN movement, is flooded with the hard left and their last concern is the environment, clean air, and clean water. This should be shouted from the highest mountains. AL Gore should be held accountable for his mendacity.
Sharpton exposed?
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 12:00pm.
There seems to a conflict of interest between Comcast and the not so reverend Al.
Eh. It's a private company
Submitted by Satchmo on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 12:05pm.
Eh. It's a private company that can hire whomever it wishes for whatever reason it wishes.
Satchmo = Sissy Troll
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 12:09pm.
This is a lying coward of a troll.
Do not feed this troll.
It is baiting once again. Just like yesterday. Setting up for another paultbot snitfest.
Our troll doesn't have the
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 12:57pm.
Our troll doesn't have the sense God promised a billy goat. The point was that Sharpton would never be offered a TV show by anybody. He has Comcast in his pocket. His radio show is a dud. His TV show will be worse. Is there a tax right off for losing money on a network like MESSNBC? I know most businesses can right off losses.
Does Sharpton have a job for life, at MESSNBC?
Submitted by Red Jeep on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 1:36pm.
I imagine if they wanted to fire him for low ratings, he'd yell Racism since he is one of only 2 on-air blacks there.
"Can't fire me! Racism! Racism!"
Obviously, he was offered a
Submitted by Satchmo on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 1:10pm.
Obviously, he was offered a TV show.
Misssing something?
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 4:37pm.
Like the lobbying Sharpton did on behalf of comcast/GE to get their deal through the FCC?
Not missing anything. They
Submitted by Satchmo on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 6:56pm.
Not missing anything. They can hire whomever they wish for whatever reason they wish. Couldn't care less if quid pro quo is involved.
SHORT ANSWER......
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 12:08pm.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Question: if environmentalists are called "Watermelons," (For being green on the outside and red on the inside) and Shelia Jackson Lee (The Dumbest person in Congress) loves the environmental movement like she says she does ...... does that make her a "Watermeleon lover... and is that racccciiiiiissssssiiiiitttt?..... LOL
OldJarhead
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 12:54pm.
See my post above. It is official she is not only the dumbest in congress but the dumbest in the USA.
Limbaugh had a classic monologue on this
Submitted by gopcongress on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 12:16pm.
Rush Limbaugh has a quote on this:
"The modern environmental movement is the new home of communists, who have been displaced as a result of the end of the Soviet Union. It's the new home of socialism. And it provides an excellent berth, because it enables them to practice their number one characteristic: deceit and lies."
He stated this in the early nineties on his show, barely 4 years old at the time. It is precisely what is happening. Environmentalism is pushing to promote the socialist control of individual's lives through the criminalization of capitalist endeavors.
"The news and truth are not the same thing." -Walter Lippmann (1889-1974) FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER
I found a local station that
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 1:28pm.
I found a local station that is carrying Rush that I can pick up at work. Did I hear him right? When the Senate got Bonehead's bill they were going to amend it and send it back to the House knowing it would be defeated so as to make Repubs the bad guys.
Does anybody know if Rachael
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 12:31pm.
Does anybody know if Rachael Carson was a commie? She was the one that started most of this environmental crap.
Let us know what you think?
Submitted by Rackie on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 12:43pm.
Sorry, my permit to "think" has been revoked.
Why? Did you think too fast?
Submitted by Red Jeep on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 12:53pm.
Did you drink and think? Thinking in a school zone?
Sad.
Queen Nan is off her rocker
Submitted by bkeyser on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 1:35pm.
Poor thing.
She said what??
Submitted by jon_torlin on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 2:11pm.
That's putting it very mildly! Save the planet?? WTF??
I guess there really is such a thing as botox poisoning! How the hell do you "save life" by increasing the debt ceiling and laying the groundwork for a socialist society that she helped implement, how does that "save life?"
Wow! Just when I thought things couldn't get any weirder, they just do. Just like Bru's comment about Cain below, that was a big disappointment!
-Jon
BK
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 3:55pm.
They are all off their rockers. Have you seen all the comments? Debbie Whatshername Shultz is right there among the crazies. Franken may have taken the award for dumbest. I know somewhere in your mind there is a picture lurking
~Herman Cain cowers to Muslims
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 1:36pm.
He just lost any support from me.
Ditto.
Submitted by jon_torlin on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 2:12pm.
I knew that guy was too good to be true. Someone got to him. He's toast.
Islam is a cancer and Muslim "Americans" are helping to spread it, and we (as a country) STILL let them do whatever the hell they want. What a bunch of GD COWARDS!
-Jon
And another one bites the dust.
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 2:13pm.
.
He should have apologized. He
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 2:23pm.
He should have apologized. He was toast anyways.
We should withhold judgement
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 7:49pm.
We should withhold judgement until we hear more. pandering to Islam then we should ostrasize him, but does that mean we ostrasize all who speak andmeet with Islamic organizations?
~Apologizing to Muslims
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 9:48pm.
is like bleeding in a shark tank.
Bru, I'm not going to throw Herman under the bus just yet
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 8:58pm.
I want so see where this goes.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
~Where it goes
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 9:51pm.
Apologies are the road to dhimmi-land. He just flashed them his soft underbelly. Very disappointing.
Bru, My hope it's like Chess.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:39am.
Ok sorry, lets clear the playing field, start a fresh game.
See what his reaction is to the next, moslem MO.
As you know the wait will be short.
You Didn't Build That.
Rush Limbaugh has been
Submitted by Slyrr on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 2:45pm.
Rush Limbaugh has been warning for years that the 'Environmentalist' movement is nothing more than the modern home of displaced Soviet Communists. And looking at their agenda, you have to admit El Rushbo has a point.
Environmentalism, like Communism, seeks equality by making everyone equally miserable. Population 'control' (i.e., culling) is also a common element in both Communism and Environmentalism....
GOP Juvenile??
Submitted by jon_torlin on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 4:38pm.
Carney says the GOP is incredibly juvenile.....really? More self-projection?
Juvenile GOP
He's working for a guy who acts like a petulant manchild and he calls the GOP Juvenile. HM!
Ok, then!
-Jon
Oops, it's a £700,000 prang...
Submitted by stratman on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 5:35pm.
Blonde crashes her Bentley into a Merc, Porsche, Ferrari and Aston Martin
I was going to post that
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 5:47pm.
I was going to post that earlier today but I got a phone call and forgot. Let me make it very clear we are not picking on Blonde.
Affirmative
Submitted by stratman on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 6:46pm.
Just a fun headline that has nothing to do with our Blonde.
(NewsBusters favorite Floridian is stateside, right?) ;-)
Alas, I saw that this a.m.
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 8:42pm.
Much to my horror!
All those beautiful cars (odd that so many were the exact same color)....that stupid bimbo gives all blondes a bad name. I suppose no one will lend me a Bentley now, right?
Drat!
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J, I would if I had one
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 8:54pm.
LOL - But right now, I can't even afford to put a tank of gas in one.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Sadly, my favorite car was
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 8:38pm.
Sadly, my favorite car was one of the victims, the Ferrari F430. Now that it's wrecked maybe he might sell it to me. :-D
Wait, wait, wait...
Submitted by Rukus on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 11:16pm.
The Editor of the Euro-mag 'Autogespot' is named Ruud Poot? ROTFLMAO!!! This is The Onion material!
What the hell happened to them??
Submitted by jon_torlin on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 6:28pm.
Ok, someone clue me in here, why are the newbie but previously thought to be tough Republicans who were going to stand their ground and fight this debt ceiling bull$hit suddenly flipping around and going for it?
Suddenly all these new guys are linguini spined after all? Allen West seems to be flipping? Paul Ryan seems to be flipping? Boehner?(not too surprised) Cantor?(not too surprised) A few others who would have stood their grounds now decide to vote for this?
I might be mistaken in some of what I said above, but assuming I'm not, at this point, what I would love to see happen is that this government is absolutely abolished.(wishful thinking, eh?) I don't care what happens to this government anymore, they are our enemy anyway and I'm pretty much lumping Congress as that, even with the Republican Majority who are afraid of their own shadows. There's nothing left.
Now let's assume that I was mistaken, what the hell is going on?
-Jon
I am assuming it is a chess
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 8:00pm.
I am assuming it is a chess move to gain control of the board in 2012. Realistically the GOP cant do too much with the House and win the PR war; the PR war is key to gaining the Presidency and the Senate. So we take incremental steps to win the PR war and some ground. Hopefully the big guns will come out in the 2012 budget battle and the Presidential election.
jon, We are being played for fools by the professional...
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 9:03pm.
political class.
This is just business-as-usual pretending to be a "heroic stand" by the repub leadership.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
K. I've had enough "fun" for today
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 9:08pm.
I think I'm going to fire up FS, go flying in the Gulf, and see if I can find TS Don.
Catch y'all tomorrow.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Stupid, unscientific, and deceptive information from NB
Submitted by Giygas on Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:43pm.
This is the funniest piece of right wing paranoia I've seen in some time. The facts on global warming have already closed in on the climate change deniers. Now paranoid conspiracy theories and scare stories are the final resort. The main reason why conservatives deny climate change is because of this line of reasoning:
1. I'm afraid of 'big government' and hate 'environmentalists'
2. Carbon regulation is 'big government' supported by 'environmentalists'
3. Therefore I oppose carbon regulation
4. If humans are causing dangerous global warming, carbon regulation is necessary
5. Therefore in order to justify my carbon regulation opposition, I must deny that humans are causing global warming.
The purported link between environmental policy and communism is for low information voters with sixth grade reasoning. You would have to be very mentally challenged to buy into the propaganda in the article.
YEAH and you believe everything...
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:46pm.
Al Gore said to right? .................. MORON!
I disagree
Submitted by IdahoJim on Fri, 07/29/2011 - 5:23pm.
The latest report from NASA covering 10 years of data shows that carbon dioxide may not trap nearly as much heat as computer climate models were programmed for. Could be that carbon is not the evil culprit it has been made out to be.
Last week's "record breaking" heat wave set 32 new records out of the 6000+ records kept.
Environmentalism advocates central planning as a means to control carbon emissions from industry. They want to control production by setting quotas tied to carbon emissions and punishing the company if they exceed those limits. True, communist central planning punished companies that did not make their quotas. It might be apples and oranges to you, but they are both fruit. Central planning by government agencies that get to make up the rules as they go along is a system that has always failed every time it is tried. I give you the example of today's EPA trying to implement cap and trade despite it being voted down by congress.
People don't want it. Industry does not want it. The economy does not want it, But the EPA whines "But this is four your own good".
Do you know how many miserable, rotten despots have used that excuse? When I hear those words come out of a government mouth, I know we are in deep, deep trouble.
IdahoJim
http://idahoandy.net
You apparently have very low scientific literacy
Submitted by Giygas on Fri, 07/29/2011 - 6:02pm.
You apparently have very low scientific literacy because, you are confusing all-time records with daily records. As of July 25, 2,100 daily high maximum temperature records have been set so far this month, and 51% of those were set last week. 4,734 daily high minimum temperature records have been set so far this month.
So you have read about the new NASA data that is said to blow a hole in the global warming alarmism debate? I've seen the Forbes article. But this isn't 'new' NASA data, and the data hasn't blown a hole in anything, only the interpretation of it by Roy Spencer. And here's the problem: Spencer has published a number of papers in respected, peer-reviewed journals in the past. But he decides to pay to have this one published in a freebie online 'journal' started two years ago and not accredited by the ISI. Does that matter? No, not for those who are interested in cutting and pasting any old crap, checked or unchecked, onto the Internet. But for those who take science seriously, research has to be written up in respected, peer-reviewed journals. Sorry, that may sound stuffy and elitist and conspiratorial, but that's how we separate good science from crap, and ensure that the knowledge that goes forward to the next generation of scientists has been verified to the best of our ability.
Gg, Another summers cooling off, Ain't no record warming, LOSER
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 1:34am.
You green wind pork, wanna be, carbon trader.
Where O' where are the record BREAKING HIGH TEMPERATURES. this year?
Two record breaking LOW temperatures in 2009 and 2011.
So glad China burning up all that coal, has cooled the planet.
The problem is you don't like the DATA from Roy Spencer PhD. he presents a good point, balls in your court.
Abstract: The sensitivity of the climate system to an imposed radiative imbalance remains the largest source of uncertainty in projections of future anthropogenic climate change.
The Empire strikes back without reading the paper
: I am quite frankly getting tired of the climate ‘alarmists’ demanding that we ’skeptics’ be held a higher standard than they are held to. They claim our results don’t prove their models are wrong in their predictions of strong future warming, yet fail to mention they have no good, independent evidence their models are right.
Quit preaching your condescending spewage
You Didn't Build That.
FWIW: Some interesting data as of June, 2011
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 1:55am.
Climate Highlights - June •June 2011 brought extremes in both temperature and precipitation across the United States. An oppressive heat wave accompanied by intensifying drought conditions shattered temperature records in the South and Southwest. •The average U.S. temperature in June was 70.7 degrees F (21.5 degrees C), which is 1.4 degrees F (0.8 degrees C) above the long-term (1901-2000) average.
Precipitation, averaged across the nation, was 2.48 inches (63.0 mm). This was 0.41 inch (10.4 mm) below the long-term average, with large variability in different locations. •Several locations broke all-time high temperature records during June. On the 26th, Amarillo, Texas set an all time high temperature record of 111.0 degrees F (43.9 degrees C), breaking the record of 109.0 degrees F (42.8 degrees C) set just two days prior. On the 15th, Tallahassee, Florida also recorded an all-time high, 105.0 degrees F (40.6 degrees C).
For the month, 42 U.S. locations tied or broke all-time maximum high temperature records. •In addition to the daily high temperatures, average temperatures during June were also historic in Texas. In Lubbock, the average temperature of 85.8 degrees F (29.9 degrees C) was 8.5 degrees F (4.7 degrees C) above the June average. This surpassed July 1966 (85.4 degrees F or 29.7 degrees C) as the city's warmest month on record. In Midland, the average temperature of 88.0 degrees F (31.1 degrees C) was also the warmest month on record, surpassing the monthly average of 87.2 degrees F (30.7 degrees C) set in August 1964. Additionally, Houston and Galveston had their warmest June on record. •
The expansive heat across Texas resulted in an average statewide temperature of 85.2 degrees F (29.6 degrees C), which was 5.6 degrees F (3.1 degrees C) above normal, surpassing 1953 as the warmest June in 117 years of records. This was the Texas' fourth consecutive June with temperatures at least 2 degrees F (1.1 degrees C) above the long-term average.
•Several other states also had temperatures much above normal. Both Louisiana and Oklahoma (tied) had their second warmest June; Georgia tied for its third warmest. It was the sixth warmest for Arkansas, Delaware (tied), Florida, Mississippi, and New Mexico.
•Along with the heat, parts of the Southwest through much of the Southern Plains and Gulf Coast experienced a continuation of intense drought. New Mexico had its driest June on record while Arizona and Oklahoma had their fourth driest. June was the fifth driest in Texas and the ninth driest in Florida.
On the other hand, parts of the Pacific Northwest set records for cool temperatures during April-June.
source
So, there you go.
Did you read the post upcountrywater was replying to?
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 8:51am.
Global Warming is dead. I mean dead. Someone needs to flash the lights in the AGW bar because it is 2AM and they can no longer serve alcohol by law. Then chase out the drunks. It is dead. This parrot is no more. It has expired. Global Warming is dead dead dead.
Now grok that. Global Warming is dead. And we were right all along. It is the Sun and the clouds and a million other factors we have no control over that drives long term climate trends. Not tiny little pitiful earthlings. Okay? Grok that too. Because we are right about that. We have been right all along. We just don't know enough. And for the love of God Almighty shining down from above --- we did not cause any warming, or cooling and there is not a friggin' thing we can do to stop either trend.
You done grokking? Now go back to GayAss's post and read the kind of crap we have been dealing with for 23 years. Yes. That is how old the grobal warmthing is. Gayass' entire refutation of the latest nail in AGW's coffin? An vicious ad hominem post.
And you picked UCW to nitpick on?
I am taking away your Cisco for one week mister. Ah. Ah.. Ah. No arguments.
Here in NYC they don't start
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 10:35am.
Here in NYC they don't start flashing the lights until 4AM. YAAAAAAAAAAAY (hic). :-)
Yeah, I scanned it Vet...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 5:56pm.
But my concentration begins to wane as it approaches 2 a.m. I'm not so sure Global Warming is dead, but I have never taken an official position on AGW. I plan to check back in about fifty years to see how things are going.
I didn't intend to nitpick with ucw, just furnishing some data as food for thought. I'm done grokking.
Jer
Cute jer. Oh so 111 F equals 120 F and 105 F equals 109 F
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 10:08am.
Data juggling by some warmists yawn.
As you can see by some more graphs it's cooling
More cooling graphs
Jer, the warmists are getting ready for some record breaking temps in the near future. they have been busted before.
Oh they mean well tho.../sarc
Discontinuities in a climate series can be induced by virtually any change in instrumentation or observation practice. The relocation, replacement, or recalibration of an instrument, for example, can lead to an abrupt shift in time-ordered observations that is unrelated to any real change in climate.
You Didn't Build That.
Hey UCW, I would not bother
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 1:49am.
Hey UCW,
I would not bother trying to talk any sense to this troll. GivesGas loooooves Socialism.
He is also an economic illiterate. And he thinks the British health system is ideal.
Makes all these statements and provides no proof to support them.
Read through the entire thread, it shows what a complete and utter moron she/he/it is.
In 2010, 19 countries set
Submitted by Giygas on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 1:35pm.
In 2010, 19 countries set all-time national heat records. No prior year set that many national heat records in a single year. The year with the second most all-time national heat records was 2007.
http://www.ruthgroup.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/ClimateChangeRecords...
In the past week, Iran records its hottest temperature ever of 126.6 degrees Fahrenheit. On March 8 2011, Democratic Republic of the Congo recorded an all-time heat record of 102.6 degrees Fahrenheit.
http://www.worldweatherpost.com/2011/07/29/don-closing-in-on-texas-91l-a...
China did not cause global cooling over the past decade with their aerosol emissions, the aerosol emissions just reduced the amount of warming over the past decade. The cooling effect of the aerosols is just a transient phenomenon, because aerosols only have a residence time in the atmosphere of only couple of weeks and their atmospheric concentration will only hold for as long as they are replenished by their sources. Carbon dioxide, on the other hand, can remain in the atmosphere for over a century and will still be in the atmosphere long after its sources shuts down. As China establishes scrubbers and cleaner coal burning methods in their coal plants in the next few decades, the atmospheric aerosol concentration will almost immediately go down substantially, and so will the cooling effect. This will allow the vast quantities of CO2 emitted by the same coal, to warm the planet markedly. http://www.pnas.org/content/108/29/11790.short
The paper written by Spencer, as I've said, is not a study, but just his interpretation of the science. This paper would have to submitted to and accepted by a peer-reviewed journal in order to be deemed scientifically accurate. This general rule applies to all fields of science, ranging from disciplines like medicine and botany, to metallurgy and astronomy. To the science-impaired that doesn't matter, any "study" that conforms to your worldview is unquestionably accurate, verified or unverified.
The peer-review process is vital to ensuring that bad science doesn't get into the scientific literature. Peer-reviewed science is what allowed us to signifcantly lengthen our life expectany and dramatically improve our quality of life with modern medicine, get us to the moon, map our genome, create techonology for wide-spead communication and daily conveniences, ect. Unpeer-reviewed science is responsible for the hundreds of thousands of preventable AIDS deaths at the beginning of the AIDS epidemic, fallacious information from tobacco companies on cigarettes, acid rain denial, ect.
Let me guess...
Submitted by Rukus on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 1:59pm.
You will not read nor admit these peer-reviewed anti-agw publications... that's what I thought.
23 years Gayass. What have you done to fix it?
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 2:09pm.
Global Warming is 23 years old. Tell us now Gayass. What have you done in the past 23 years to fix it? What have you done to reverse it?
Global Warming is dead. Much like your brain. Instead of selliing a dead parrot, try apologising to all of us for your repeated retread troll accounts here selling your dead parrot.
Shut up and go away. No one cares about your propaganda.
Do NOT lump that crap in with medical research!
Submitted by drsamherman on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 2:50pm.
At the beginning of the AIDS epidemic, no single causative pathogen had been identified prior to the discovery of the human immunodeficiency virus family. There was incomplete epidemiology and there were NAV (no apparent vector) cases that were called AIDS. It was only later that the linkages to human immunodeficiency viruses and the mechanisms of immune system down-regulation were discovered. AIDS is a clinical stage of HIV infection.
We already had the epidemiology on smoking and its sequelae, so don't bother trying to incorrectly link that to a lack of peer-reviewed research either.
The idea of global warming is based on mathematical models which are not universally accepted. I could not make medical treatment decisions on such low quality conjectures as mathematical models.
Gg, I just bought a thermometer yesterday, and it set a record
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 3:41pm.
Here are the records. None of yours are even close.
Continent Highest Temp. (deg F) Place Elevation (Feet) Date
1 Africa 136 El Azizia, Libya 367 13 Sep 1922
2 North America 134 Death Valley, CA (Greenland Ranch) -178 10 Jul 1913
3 Asia 129 Tirat Tsvi, Israel -722 22 Jun 1942
4 Australia 128* Cloncurry, Queensland 622 16 Jan 1889
5 Europe 122 Seville, Spain 26 4 Aug 1881
6 South America 120 Rivadavia, Argentina 676 11 Dec 1905
7 Oceania 108 Tuguegarao, Philippines 72 29 Apr 1912
8 Antarctica 59 Vanda Station, Scott Coast 49 5 Jan 1974
Where is the run away warming, should be here by now!!!!Oh still waiting for these records to fall, tick tock hummm old records still stand.
I'm going to get another NEW thermometer tomorrow, and I sure it will set another new record, the day after that.
You missed the HIDE THE DECLINE turns out 1934 was the hottest year. Do not give me the world temp crap again
Even when you warmers pull this Crap They still can not break any real records.
You Didn't Build That.
When will this stick? Global
Submitted by Giygas on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 5:56pm.
When will this stick? Global warming doesn't mean record-breaking warmth everywhere every year at the same time. Global warming is an extended upward trend in the globally averaged temperature. The average temperature of the planet is about 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than it was at the beginning of the 20th century. The temperature increase for the contiguous U.S. has been about 2 degrees Fahrenheit. At this point, the warming is large enough for twice as many record high temperatures to occur than record low temperatures across the U.S. But it is still small enough for natural variability dominate the temperature signal and conspire to produce periods of record cold from time to time.
http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=115905
Most of the records listed above are likely to be broken by 2100. It would indeed be remarkable, even to alarmists like Al Gore, if all of them were broken by this point, even if we were in the worst possible scenario. As I showed you in the above comment, 19 all-time national heat records fell last year and 2 have fallen so far this year. No all-time national cold records were broken in the past few years.
1934 is statistically tied with 1998 and 2006 as the hottest year on record in the U.S. Globally 1934 was much cooler than 1998 and 2006. The United States only makes up 1.5% of the globe's surface area.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/ZonAnn.Ts+dSST.txt
This illustrates that regional variability is large and can obscure the long-term GLOBAL trend
Wow Gags*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 6:05pm.
This illustrates that regional variability is large and can obscure the long-term GLOBAL trend...
That sentence tells me you just bought yourself some very large portable goal posts.
Are these the same peer-reviewed journals...
Submitted by drsamherman on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 6:53pm.
...that told us thirty years ago that we were going to experience another ice age? Maybe you are too young or were not even born yet, but we suffered some debilitating winters in the late 70s/early 80s that climatologists told us were due to everything from pollution to overpopulation to [insert reason here]. The same thing occurs in biological journals as in other branches of science, that is conclusions are often drawn incorrectly. Whether it is someone saying that association implies causality or ignoring the principle of Occam's Razor, in science nothing is ever settled. With the exceptions of those scientific laws already on the books (thermodynamics, etc.), scientists are not really into anything more than consensus--which often nothing more than an educated guess in the absence of conflicting information. There is plenty of conflicting information in climatology and geophysics.
Peer-reviewed journals are NOT the be-all, end-all of science. Very often, even the peers get it wrong. Ever heard of the vaccine/autism hoax published in one of the most respected journals (Lancet)? You know the one where the physician who fudged the data lost his license and the editors were forced to print a retraction? Or perhaps you remember that notorious cold fusion experiment that could not be reproduced accurately? Or maybe the hundreds of other scientific articles that produced inaccurate, outmoded or incorrect results?
Sorry to sound deflating to your obsession on global warming, but it is only a hypothesis and nothing more. It is also a highly lucrative field of research that is not unlike other research fads that have come and gone, such as prions, cold dark matter and string theory.
From a physician's viewpoint, what you are not saying about global warming theory is:
1) The instrumentation which measures these effects is not uniformly accurate enough - chemical sensing systems can be notoriously inaccurate even when supposedly validated. In some clinical study methodologies, we use the data carry-forward method for missing values because of ethics concerns. In hard physical sciences (chemistry, math, physics, geology), if you use the carry-forward method it means you are a rather lazy scientist. With such accuracy and precision problems manifesting in variables used for climate change mathematical models, a series of missing values seriously dilutes the predictive value of the model.
2) The more complex the mathematical model (as for various climate change models), the greater chance that errors can be propagated through the model even in the presence of more sophisticated recursive correction algorithms or precision adjustments through sensitivity analyses. In other words, the results are no better than random chance at 50/50.
3) Single-event level probability with a pre-defined phenomenon is never more than 50/50 - either it will happen or not. In more complex phenomena using multiple comparisons in a composite end-point scenario, a probability correction must be made to account for each single element of the composite endpoint. Climate is a complex geophysical event that is not a singular outcome.
There was no global cooling
Submitted by Giygas on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 8:08pm.
There was no global cooling consensus in the 1970s. A study published in the bulletin of the American Meteorological Society searched scientific journals from the 1970s and found that papers predicting global warming far outnumbered those that predicted global cooling. The myth that most climate scientists predicted global cooling in 1970s is just based on a handful articles published in Time and Newsweek magazine and certain newspapers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU_AtHkB4Ms&feature=channel_video_title
Did you bother searching for books on the subject?
Submitted by drsamherman on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 8:14pm.
There were more doom and gloom new ice-age books published from 1977 to 1982 than one could fit into the largest Barnes & Noble.
Offering up a youtube video is as bad as offering up a Wikipedia article.
Standards of scholarship have certainly slipped.
Dr. Sam
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 07/30/2011 - 8:20pm.
What Gigli is trying to say is "You remember what scientists were saying back in the 70's? Well, they want you to believe them when they tell you they lied".
So let's all trust Gigli now that he has a story that takes the argument in the exact opposite direction.
Coming up next, the nightmare of Global Stasis!
What novels had to say about
Submitted by Giygas on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 11:33am.
What novels had to say about the climate is moot. What matters is what is shown in the peer-reviewed journals. Today there are thousands of papers in scientific journals in support of anthropogenic global warming. If most climate scientists really were predicting global cooling back in the 1970s, there should be many papers demonstrating that prediction in the refereed literature dating back to that time. But papers predicting global warming outnumbered those predicting global cooling by about 6 to 1
http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/global_warming/global_dimming.html
Shut up Gayass Retard.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 1:47pm.
What are you, the last idiot to still buy into the idiocy that AGW is still alive?
Here is your peer review Idiot. 23 years, you have not done a damn thing to try to fix something you say is broke. Yet you come here and try to get us to join your dead cult. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE IN THE LAST 23 YEARS TO FIX IT?
NASA Peer-Reviewed Study Finds Low Sensitivity To CO2 Doubling: The UN's IPCC Global Warming Science Is Imploding
The infamous, never-before-seen, IPCC climate model prediction of scary, positive AGW-feedback has now been vanquished by scientific empirical research. NASA's researchers have just pushed the button of detonation, which will likely hasten the collapse of the IPCC's version of "climate science" upon itself.
Simply stated, the IPCC's Climategate scientists and computer models conjured up the scary prediction of a 3 to 5 degree Celsius temperature increase from a doubling of CO2, along with requisite, speculative, calamitous events of biblical destruction proportions. But now the latest research finds that CO2 doubling causes an increase of only 1.64 degrees, which is within the range of outcomes that skeptical scientists have been saying for decades.
Anthorbologna Global Warming is dead. SHUT THE HELL UP. YOU ARE THE LAST IDIOT.
It is difficult to deal with an OCD patient like Giygas.
Submitted by drsamherman on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 12:02pm.
He translates "books" into "novels". The doom and gloom books WERE from scientists, and included everything from reference-type works with various articles on how to construct basic shelters to deal with the expected freeze-out to generating your own energy using the trees now dormant because of the expected permanent winter. We went from being Earth to being Narnia with the White Witch according to those books. And lest we forget the media blitzes saying the same thing.
Giygas is obsessed with climate change and is compulsive towards dragging every shred of information (credible or not) out to inform us poor troubled souls who do not share the same vision. To the OCD, I will add a nice dash of obsessional personality disorder. These Axis I/II co-diagnoses are the worst. Even when you treat the primary, you still have the untreatable second to deal with!
If our little OCD climatologist is so intent on educating us, perhaps the first advice any professor could give an educator is not to insult the students--particularly when the instructor's grasp of facts is tenuous at best.
Same here Drsam*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sun, 07/31/2011 - 2:00pm.
My thoughts exactly. Can you imagine what his basement looks like? Every pencil the same size and color lined up in a row. All papers and books accounted for and in neat stacks. He has counted the paper clips repeatedly and has exactly 100 of them and replaces any missing immediately. His favorites bar is in alphabetical order and he clicks on each site IN ORDER. Each site has its own post name but every post he makes is about AGW. He probably eats the same food every day, every meal. Doesn't matter what else is going on in the world. AGW is the most important issue for him, focused, fixed, indelibly. His thoughts, his ideas, his answers are THE most important in his little basement world. How sad.
And
Submitted by IdahoJim on Fri, 07/29/2011 - 5:32pm.
From this side, global warming looks like whacky paranoid conspiracy theories. You point to one or two pieces of data whose validity has been roundly questioned and assume that all adds up to a global crisis.
Example, the "scientist" that predicted all the polar bears would drown soon just got suspended and an investigation into the accuracy and possible fudging of his data to get the results he wanted is just starting. The picture of a bear standing on a small ice chunk was taken completely out of context. Ask the people that took the picture.
IdahoJim
http://idahoandy.net