Open Thread: Gallup Poll Recalculates GOP Field
Gallup released a new poll this morning asking who GOP primary voters support sans Huckabee, Trump, and Daniels. And it turns out...the race for the GOP nomination is still very undecided, with almost everyone gaining a little more support. Check out some of the poll's findings below the break and give us your thoughts in the comments.
Mitt Romney (17%) and Sarah Palin (15%) now lead a smaller field of potential Republican presidential candidates in rank-and-file Republicans’ preferences for the party’s 2012 nominee. Ron Paul, Newt Gingrich, and Herman Cain essentially tie for third, with Cain registering 8%
While the field may have shifted, one of the biggest frontrunners is still Palin. Her candidacy is yet uncertain, and without any exploratory committee or formal declaration of candidacy, her departure from the race could shake up the field even more. Gallup tabulated the results without her candidacy, and found that her supporters also diverge to a number of different candidates.
Re-allocating Palin supporters’ votes to the candidate who is their second choice gives a sense of where current preferences would stand without Palin in the mix. Under this scenario, Romney leads with 19%, followed by Gingrich and Paul with 12% each.
Only a month ago, Gallup's poll showed Huckabee and Trump as leading the pack. Without them running, Ed Morrissey explains to whom their supporters turned.
Their previous poll on the GOP nomination race came more than a month ago. In it, Huckabee and Trump led with 16% each and Mitch Daniels had 3% support, adding up to 35% of respondents in April. With the departure of these three candidates, Romney picked up one point, Palin five points, Ron Paul four points, Newt Gingrich three points, and another three points for Tim Pawlenty. The only real significant move came from Herman Cain, from immeasurably small to 8%.
Perhaps most surprising is the room for yet another candidate to join the race.
The biggest gain in this poll besides Herman Cain’s eight-point jump was in None/No Opinion, which went from 14% to 22%. That outstrips all of the other candidates in the field, giving the impression that none of the current potential candidates has captured the imagination of primary voters at this time.
Who do you think could still shake up the GOP field? Do you forsee any late entries?
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It would be instructive...
Submitted by c5then on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 10:01am.
To compare democrat polls from early 2007 to see how the compare knowing how that one actually turned out.
I still think it is too early to draw any conclusions from these polls because such a large % of the voting pool is still not focused/interested in the 2012 elections.
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
Poll details are curious for
Submitted by stratman on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 1:19pm.
Poll details are curious for a delineation for "Hispanics" but no other ethnic group.
TSA scares Texas Senate
Submitted by jon_torlin on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 10:37am.
It would seem that the Texas Senate has caved to the TSA/Feddies about the state law to ban them from grabbing our crotches. Initially the TSA tried to use the Supremacy Clause to say that Fed Govt trumps state laws, when in fact it's the exact opposite. So the Feddies and the TSA threatened to shut the airports down(can they do that?) if Texas didn't take that bill off the table. The Texas Senate folded like a cheap suit.
In the meantime, middle eastern people in Arab garb continued to be passed through while little kids and babies are fondled.
Thugocracy in action, yay.
-Jon
What happened to The Great
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:04pm.
What happened to The Great Uniter? He has slapped around Texans ever since he took office. Next time y'all will vote for him.
Still waiting
Submitted by SouthJersey1953 on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 10:43am.
And I think a lot of Republicans and Conservatives are waiting.
No to Gingrich and Palin (unelectable) and a big NO to Romney (RINO)
Leaning to Cain, but, if asked in a poll like this, I would probably answer None. Still too early.
Obama "walking back" his comments on Israel
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 11:02am.
President Barrack Obama used his London press conference today to rewrite his politically damaging speeches on the Arab-Israeli stand-off
The recalibration of the inartfully worded statements begins.....
Wasting time with that subject
Submitted by jon_torlin on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 11:45am.
Ugh, this is what gets me about this....
He's just wasting time with that subject about Hamas recognizing Israel's existence. Any time he starts off with "Hamas must recognize" or words similar to that, he's just blowing more smoke because the charter of Hamas calls for Israel's destruction.
If he really means what he says (which he never does, he's just a consummate liar through and through), then he has to call for the disbanding of Hamas.
There's no other way around it short of destroying them outright.
-Jon
Wonder how he's going to walk back his toast?
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 11:52am.
How embarassing was that? Talking right through "God Save The Queen"?
Don't the Obama's have a protocol officer? And if so, what is he/she doing? Touring London, or the job?
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Several good Republicans there
Submitted by Icarus on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 11:23am.
I say that as a liberal/progressive. I say it both sincerely (Huntsman, Romney, and Pawlenty aren't that bad) and strategically (because I figure my praise for the candidates will drive conservatives crazy).
No one cares what you think
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 11:52am.
Trust me.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Rick Perry and Paul Ryan
Submitted by Icarus on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 11:56am.
I also think those guys should jump into the race. Should be fun.
Why dont you just wish in one
Submitted by MightyMouth on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:35pm.
Why dont you just wish in one hand and..well you know...in the other hand and see which one fills up first.
Masturbation joke
Submitted by Icarus on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 3:28pm.
Awesome.
MM*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 4:19pm.
Just a suggestion that you should review your posts before hitting the "save" button.. You and several others have done your best to bring discourse at NB down to minimal intellectual level.
The necessity to use profanity, vulgarity, insults and name calling is generally a clear indication of poor education and limited vocabulary. It is never acceptable in a public forum or in mixed company.
EDIT: The fact that a troll cheers you on should be a clue as to how far down you have traveled.
I ask only that you show some restraint in your posts since some of us have been offended.
I don't think your crazy
Submitted by Conservator on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 1:22pm.
Huntsman, Romney, and Pawlenty represent the moderate wing of the Republican Party. However, I think Obama would easily defeat them in 2012 and thus, I will only vote for any of them if they win the GOP nomination. BTW, I vote for candidates on the Conservative line nearly 98% in all elections.
West
Submitted by GW on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 11:25am.
I think Allen West would shake things up a lot if he ran. But I don't think he will run because he said he wouldn't.
Still waiting
Submitted by Joe C Camel on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 11:34am.
Like most, I am still waiting on someone who will come out of the background and work toward defeating Obama. None of these folks so far will get my vote.
The more I read about Herman
Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 11:44am.
The more I read about Herman Cain the more I like him. He almost makes me forget about Sarah Palin. Almost. ;-)
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Cain / Palin?
Submitted by MightyMouth on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:33pm.
Sounds almost too good to be true although that bumper sticker sounds to damn close to the last defeat we suffered. On the plus side, the MSM lame arse media can't call us racist or misogynistic any more, right?
Free, Guess you have already seen this: Palin Bus
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 2:07pm.
Great timing ;- )
PALIN TO HIT THE ROAD
Sarah Palin will hit the road this Memorial Day weekend on a tour of the Northeast -- and possibly New Hampshire -- aboard a red, white and blue bus emblazoned with the words: "One Nation Under God, Indivisible, With Liberty & Justice For All."
The former Alaska govenor will began her journey Sunday from Washington, D.C., after she and husband Todd join a quarter-million motorcyclers in the Rolling Thunder event to support the troops. She'll leave the veterans and make her first stop at the National Archives, where she'll stop by to view the U.S. Constitution.
Details on where she'll go next -- and when -- are unclear, but fans and supporters will be able to follow her path on www.sarahpac.com, where the RV's progress can be tracked live. All an aide would say is that Palin "will embark on a One Nation tour of historical sites that were key to the formation, survival, and growth of the United States of America." Antietam? Independence Hall? Gettysburg? Liberty Hall? Federal Hall? Faneuil Hall?! And eventually, Manchester, N.H.? Stay tuned....developing....
You Didn't Build That.
UCW
Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 4:27pm.
Thanks, I hadn't seen that yet.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
No
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 9:53pm.
I'm the opposite: the more I see, the more I am convinced that he should be, say, SecTreas or SecCommerce. Not the President.
First, he showed on Fox News Sunday that he doesn't know very much about the finer details of foreign policy. (Not knowing what "right of return" means in terms of Israel and the Palestinians.) Then today on Squawk Box he said that he wants the Unfair Tax.
Non-starter. He wants to replace the tax code we have now, that's bad enough as it is, with the most regressive tax you can have (23% sales tax), coupled with a new government transfer scheme (what you Unfair Tax supporters call a "prebate" but what I much more accurately refer to as "allowance money"), both of which will be left wide open to abuse by successive governments? No thanks.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Uns I'm all for askin questions. Ask Cain about flat tax issues.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 11:53pm.
My thoughts is that Cain would give you, and/or our cohorts some "face time" to our "Unfair Tax" argument. Heck I think we could talk him into continuing the F-22 program.. Space killer
Hay that or 70,000 pages, irs code soon and very soon you need to hire government approved teams of CPA's, to sift through and generate ones' own tax form that refunds 13 billion, and bills you for 50 buck light bulbs, . yea fat chance for small business, heck just add the flat tax to the existing irs stuff, best of both world for the entitlement folk.
Chris Christie, dud.. FF to 6:12, wind, blowin, So many sales-pitches so little science. Electrical wiring and sea breeze, screw that.
Newt is another person that is relatively science free, ignorance is bliss on the bench with feral house speaker, great photo op, the best ever.
Combustion engineering has been over for 36 years.
The best part of Cain, is that he had practice putting teams together and fixing stuff. We need a fix it man running the show.
You Didn't Build That.
Elaboration
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 1:58pm.
He had practice putting teams together and fixing stuff? What about when it will come time for him to BREAK stuff? And kill people, including those who work for him?
I MIGHT have been willing to overlook that had he gone the Steve Forbes route of wanting to have a 17% flat tax (reference his 1996 campaign). But instead, he has voiced support for one of the most horrendous tax schemes I have heard of. (I don't like the idea of a national sales tax at all, but if you are going to advocate for one in the age of computers, you would think it would be much better to just say you will exempt things like rent, mortgage payments, groceries, and the like, rather than having the government dish out allowance money!)
I like Chris Christie as the governor of NJ. He needs to stay there because there he is doing great work. I could never vote for him for President.
Definitely will not vote for Newt G_______.
Hmmm. We DO have a "None of the Above" option here in TX... :o)
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
No perfect candidate,the fair tax won't work for sub-contractors
Submitted by upcountrywater on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 6:01pm.
Heck maybe there will be places to file an Obamacare style; tax waver.
All the displaced irs workers will be hired to follow every single transaction by all Americans.
Killing his workers and breaking stuff, so true.
CiC, heres a view...
Did he flub it? Or did he flub it like a fox?
So it could be that Cain, by failing to commit to a Victory/Bush-like strategy in Afghanistan, actually hit more possible voters in terms of actual sentiment.
TSA sure pawned your state congress critters, ouch.
You Didn't Build That.
More
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 10:02pm.
You know, I need to look into that whole TSA thing. Drudge linked a story to it, but as soon as I saw it came from Alex Jones's site, I saw more red flags than at a May Day parade in Red Square.
Hey, as I told that dense clown frankie, "if I wanted the perfect candidate for president, I would run for office."
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I see NB has flipped the
Submitted by stratman on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 12:23pm.
I see NB has flipped the "*new" post identifier to the left of the subject line.
I hope this will be accompanied by a function that allows one to easily move from New to New posts without the current hassles. Even better, allow for a collapse of all previously read messages with only the new ones fully displayed.
Why NB didn't use red or some other color to denote the *new identifier, instead of the subject line, is a disappointing mystery. That alone would have assisted in finding new posts.
While I'm on a rant, page loads are ridiculously slow and cause a momentary hang in the display. This seems worse than before the update. It is irritating that I lose my cursor after pasting text into a comment, requiring a click and then cancel of the add link button to get the cursor back. Also, text typed after linked text may also become "linked". There are also glitches that occur with bulleting, such as realigning the left margin after toggling off the bullet button. Why does the image seen on the blog index page disappear when you go to the link to read the entire blog entry? Definitely not a biggie but seems eccentric.
Spell check and the Firefox style patch which improved page formatting is nice but it's been months and very little improvement in basic user functionality over the last version of the software.
Can we get an update on what's happening/planned?
Incestmo's hero beats the rap.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 1:06pm.
Four years of felony incest = one misdemeanor.
Still Listed As Faculty
Submitted by stratman on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 1:17pm.
His contract must not have a termination clause about felony convictions let alone moral terpitude.
What the hell are the "community standards" for Columbia? Scary.
Scarier yet - Obama's a product of the same environment.
Scary
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 1:58pm.
The more I look at the recent history of Columbia University, the more frightened I become of the place. Some of their history faculty are utterly abhorrent.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
It's ok SoL, I'm sure it was
Submitted by NC Cop on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 9:59pm.
It's ok SoL, I'm sure it was consensual.......
Imagine That...
Submitted by Conservator on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 1:12pm.
Herman Cain is not entertainment as Charles Krauthammer has repeatedly stated. Chuck and other conservative pundits are only reinforcing that the Republican field is weak when continue to push for Paul Ryan and others to run.
My dream ticket remains Herman Cain and Colonel Allen West, but it's only wishful thinking at this time.
The elections have become a...
Submitted by Order270 on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 2:07pm.
...two year machine that begins the minute it ends. We have allowed politics permeate every fabric of our society while educating our children into imbecilic voters. We let Washington control us, New York sell us and LA entertain us. And all the while Democracy holds the handle of a re-election hand basket sky rocketing us all to hell.
Dane County judge strikes down collective bargaining law
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 6:20pm.
This is an example of wasting taxpayer money, when this judge's frivolous ruling is struck down, and it will. Maryann Sumi should pay for all expenses out of pocket.
This BS needs to stop right now.
You Didn't Build That.
So, now the polls are showing that Palin is in second place?
Submitted by Charles B. Simpson on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 8:44pm.
Sarah has the nomination and the election wrapped up. Read it and weep, all you Palin haters.
Our local news update just referred to her as
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 9:02pm.
"Palin (whos poll numbers are dropping) may consider running for President"
So, now the polls are showing that Palin is in second place?
Submitted by Charles B. Simpson on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 8:46pm.
Sarah has the nomination and the election wrapped up. Read it and weep, all you Palin haters.
Stephen Moore lies hard
Submitted by Icarus on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 6:53pm.
That is Stephen Moore, senior economics writer for The Wall Street Journal and founder of the Club for Growth. It's such a massive apples-to-oranges comparison, that it has to be a pants on fire lie:
"If the Democrats' millionaire surtax were to happen—and were added to other tax increases already enacted last year and other leading tax hike ideas on the table this year—this could leave the U.S. with a combined federal and state top tax rate on earnings of 62%. That's more than double the highest federal marginal rate of 28% when President Reagan left office in 1989. Welcome back to the 1970s."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405270230406650457634361146444559...
To get the 62% Democratic tax rate figure, Moore includes federal income taxes, state income taxes, payroll taxes, and proposed tax changes that haven't been enacted yet and have little chance of being enacted.
To get the 28% Reagan tax rate figure, Moore just includes federal income taxes.
Indeed, if we were to include the same elements to the Reagan figure that were used to add up the Democratic figure, it would be more similar.
Ryan Chittum of the Columbia Journalism Review does a further "[f]uzzy [m]ath [d]emolition" (as David Weigel described it) of Moore's column here:
http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/a_62_percent_tax_rate_wsj.php