Bozell: Bush Deserves More Credit on bin Laden Killing
"If you listen very carefully, you can hear the sound of thousands of people in Washington, D.C., peeling egg off their faces," NewsBusters publisher Brent Bozell quipped on the May 6 "Fox & Friends," referring to the naysayers who condemned enhanced interrogation techniques such as waterboarding during the Bush administration.
Indeed, President Bush "is not getting the credit he deserves" for the finding and killing of Osama bin Laden.
"[I]t is because of waterboarding Osama bin Laden is dead, and everybody knows it," the MRC founder argued. "It's about time people started admitting it in [Washington] that it is because of these techniques that George Bush was crucified over that Osama bin Laden is dead today," he added.
As for the mainstream media, "it's high time they started apologizing to [President Bush]" for accusing him of authorizing torture and arguing that waterboarding would never lead to actionable intelligence.
As to the controversy over Obama not releasing a photo of a dead bin Laden, the MRC president agreed with Obama's decision to not release it, but noted that the news media went to court to push for release of the Abu Ghraib photos.
"He's dead, let's leave it at that," Bozell concluded.
For the full segment, watch the video embedded above.
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Soory
Submitted by Patriot II on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 12:06pm.
But Bin Bush doesn't deserve anymore credit than Bin Oblahma.....Bush is the one that put in the population controlling "patriot act" remember? All these bastards are in a conspiracy for the one world government...including daddy bush who didn't even try to hide his one world govt leanings....and him a world war II vet.......shame, you s.o.b.!! Your comrades in wwII would string your lousy ass up!!!
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Submitted by im41 on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 12:10pm.
TIP Finally Obama says something that he can back up with evidence.
"Bozell: Bush Deserves More
Submitted by Onepersonsopinion on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 12:48pm.
"Bozell: Bush Deserves More Credit on bin Laden Capture"
Capture? He's dead.
Capture? He's dead.
Submitted by GeneralAl on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 1:41pm.
Hey, cut him some slack! He just misspoke! Besides, he's talking about Obama. Everything involving him is a misspeak!
"Old Soldiers never die, they just fade away"!
Yeah...I don't get it...
Submitted by Dbak61 on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 6:12pm.
Almost everyone is saying Bin Bo-Boo was captured and killed. From every version I've heard, it's more like he was 'confronted' and killed. There was no capture...unless there is yet another version coming out over the weekend; which is very likely considering the source(s).
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Submitted by im41 on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 1:12pm.
TIP (Video)
Okay.
Submitted by E.S.Blofeld on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 4:55pm.
Bush deserves credit for torturing /waterboarding/ harsh interrogation techniques of detainees. Okay. No one has revealed what information was gleaned so it's speculation on what was given up. What took him so long in finding Bin Laden? KSM was captured on March 1, 2003. Bin Laden's Compound was built in 2005. Obama took the oath in 2009. 4 years to find Bin Laden's Compound. Should Bush get credit for not being able to find him in a timely manner? Also, just to make a point about giving credit- what about Clinton trying to get Bin Laden in 1998? If in 1998, those missiles were to find their intended target would we have had Bush as President? Just saying.
Ernst
"Isn't it pretty to think that way?"-EH
Bush the quitter, disbanded the CIA unit searching for Osama!
Submitted by Villabolo on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 7:29pm.
An expose of George Bush's failure to pursue Obama;
And the moral bankruptcy of Republican demagogues
In claiming that Bush led the way
May 2, 2011
IF CANTOR REALLY WANTS TO GO THERE.... House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.), shortly after President Obama's remarks on Osama bin
Laden, issued a related statement. It included this gem:
"I commend President Obama who has followed the vigilance of President Bush in bringing Bin Laden to justice."
There's a fair amount of this rhetoric bouncing around this morning, and it's not especially surprising -- Republicans aren't going to credit President Obama, regardless of merit, so it stands to reason they'll try to bring George W. Bush into the picture.
If this is going to be a new GOP talking point, we might as well set the record straight.
In March 2002, just six months after 9/11, Bush said of bin Laden, "I truly am not that concerned about him.... You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, to be honest with you"
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/washington/04intel.html
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Full quote below:
Q But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban. ________________________________________
In July 2006, we learned that the Bush administration closed its unit that had been hunting bin Laden.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/washington/04intel.html
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Quote from first paragraph of link:
WASHINGTON, July 3 — The Central Intelligence Agency has closed a unit that for a decade had the mission of hunting Osama bin Laden and his top lieutenants, intelligence officials confirmed Monday.
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In September 2006, Bush told Fred Barnes, one of his most sycophantic media allies, that an "emphasis on bin Laden doesn't fit with the administration's strategy for combating terrorism."
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/washington/04intel.html
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Inside the Oval Office
President Bush gives journalists a "heads up" about the mid-term elections, among other things.
1:54 PM, Sep 13, 2006 • By FRED BARNES
WE NOW KNOW WHY the Bush administration hasn't made the capture of Osama bin Laden a paramount goal of the war on terror. Emphasis on bin Laden doesn't fit with the administration's strategy for combating terrorism. Here's how President Bush explained this Tuesday: "This thing about . . . let's put 100,000 of our special forces stomping through Pakistan in order to find bin Laden is just simply not the strategy that will work."
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_05/029221.php
Villabolo
Nice try, troll
Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 8:30pm.
But all the posts you can muster will not erase the fact that Barack Hussein Obama all but surrendered to the camel hygienists on his first day in office, and even now has his butt-buddy Herr Erich von Holderen and his entire (in)Justice Ministry relentlessly pursuing those who are working to keep us safe.
GWB took the GWOT seriously.
The former community pisser-offer turned current national pisser-offer sees it as an annoyance, and everybody knows it.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
You failed to address the facts brought up. Try again.
Submitted by Villabolo on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 10:03pm.
Your definition of troll is out of whack with the official one. It's obvious that you consider anyone who has a different opinion than you a troll, even if he doesn't do what real trolls do.
Your counterarguments have no relevance to the specific points brought up. The major point being the disbanding of the CIA unit dedicated to finding bin Laden.
Since you made no response to the specific points mentioned, it appears that you have none. Thus, irrelevant arguments are made to sidetrack the issue.
Villabolo
Got all your TP talking
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 10:31pm.
Got all your TP talking points in line? Okay. Good. Answer these questions then:
1. When was the Alec Station unit founded and what was it's success rate?
2. When the unit was disbanded, what happened to the personnel that were in the unit?
3. Is it your (Think Progress') contention that once the unit was disbanded, the search for bin Laden ceased?
4. What specific unit was formed by the Obama administration to focus entirely on the killing or capturing of ObL?
Even if your list was relivent
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 11:56pm.
Still dont eclipse a 16hr, I will sleep on it bs. I bet your gonna say "well I am glad he slept on it" It aint original.
relevant.
Submitted by NL207 on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 12:18am.
Don't give this mental midget, Villalobo, an inch.
Republicans have Parrot DNA.
Submitted by Villabolo on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 3:13am.
Hatemongering Republicans' evaluation of Obama's speed of response:
16 hours: Was he in a coma?!
8 hours: That's an eternity!
2 hours: What does he do; nap all day?
30 minutes: Why is he dragging his feet?
1-29 minutes and 59 seconds:
What the hell is that irresponsible idiot doing?! Why is he making snap judgments that should be pondered on for endless hours?!
What if he were wrong and Pakistan were to be angered at his rash hastily conceived actions! We would have lost a valuable ally in our war on terror!
By acting that fast Obama is obviously sabotaging our war on terror by angering our faithful allies! It's obvious that he is an America hating traitor!
Villabolo
Oh no...
Submitted by sentry_99 on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 3:42am.
you're clearly not a troll. Why would anyone think that?
villabolo
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 8:43am.
Some valuable ally Pakistan was. Every time Pakistan was notified of information the information was quickly dispatched to Al Quida. We give them $3 billion a year. The threat of cutting off the gravy train would cool their anger if BO had the stomach to do it.
The only thing BO seems to do quickly is shoot off his mouth about things like a cop "acting stupidly" when doing his job.
Let's look at some real facts.
Submitted by NL207 on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 11:01am.
The government knew where bin Laden was in August of 2010, yet Obama was not willing to authorize any action against him until April of 2011. Some people think that is more than 6 months, not 16 hours.
It is crystal clear the SEALS were ordered to kill bin Laden.
Obama did not plan or initially authorize this strike. Leon Panetta and HRC did this, dragging Obama with them.
After the fact, Obama turned the bin Laden assassination into a media circus designed to bolster his own political fortunes. In so doing, he divulged to the public a large body of information that was secret and made secret other items that should be public, again, based on his own political fortunes and not the best interests of the United States of America.
A truly capable leader would have done the following :
The pitiful incompetent, Obama, did nothing. He let the heavy lifting devolve upon HRC and Leon Panetta, then the coward jumped in after the fact to hog all the credit. We can only speculate what he might have done had the operation failed. Obama is a misfit, silver tongued liar, and coward lacking in any sort of leadership ability.
Did it ever occur to you that
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 7:47pm.
Did it ever occur to you that Bush downplayed his search for Osama as a tactical strategy? The press was more than willing to report every move made by the government to find Bin Laden, giving Bin Laden advance warning and the ability to flee. He had an advisor who was asked weekly how the search was going. Bush was very involved in trying to find Bin Laden. It simply didn't make sense to publicize it, because the press was complicent in trying to help Bin Laden evade Bush.
Did you forget that . . .
Submitted by Villabolo on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 9:52pm.
Bush disbanded the CIA unit, which was tasked with finding bin Laden? He did this in 2006, 5 years after 9/11. What good would this have done as a tactical strategy?
But assuming it was a ruse, why did he take so long to make this claim? Would that not mean that Bush was giving plenty of advanced knowledge to bin Laden throughout the 5 years that it took until that unity was declared dismantled?
As for the claim that he was being given weekly updates concerning a specific search for bin Laden; how odd that he would be receiving such information after his dismantling a unit specialized in gathering such information.
Those contradictions are so glaring that it's obviously spin control.
Villabolo
Did it ever occur to you that
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 8:38am.
Did it ever occur to you that finding Bin Laden would be declared Top Secret due to our press releasing details so the unit was dismantled as useless? So a new, classified, unit or team would have been set up kept from the press so they could no longer publicize any findings?
The rest of your post makes no sense, as looking for someone doesn't mean finding them, so there would not necessarily be advanced knowledge. Run along to Dos Kos for your talking points. The ability to think for yourself is obviously beyond your capabilities.
There was a great post at Hot
Submitted by NC Cop on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 8:57am.
There was a great post at Hot Air that covers the whole "dismantling of the Bin Laden Unit" hysteria.
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/02/lawrence-odonnell-on-obl-capture-t...
"By 2005, many inside the C.I.A. had reached the conclusion that the Bin Laden hunt had grown cold, and the agency’s top clandestine officer ordered an overhaul of the agency’s counterterrorism operations.
The result was Operation Cannonball, a bureaucratic reshuffling that placed more C.I.A. case officers on the ground in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
With more agents in the field, the C.I.A. finally got the courier’s family name. With that, they turned to one of their greatest investigative tools — the National Security Agency began intercepting telephone calls and e-mail messages between the man’s family and anyone inside Pakistan. From there they got his full name."
You see, the CIA realized that what they were doing wasn't working. What's that saying about continuing to do the same thing, expecting different results?? Anyway, after realizing that they needed a change, they did just that. The result was less people sitting in rooms half a world away and more case officers ON THE GROUND in Pakistan and Afghanistan. This helped lead to the courier that they were searching for, which helped lead to Bin Laden.
Claiming that Bush just didn't care about Bin Laden or "gave up the hunt" is simply a lie.
Fact is, the CIA could not be trusted
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 11:20am.
With anything, there were so many leaks coming from the CIA, it resembled a colander. Not surprising to me, Bush would cancel a program tasked with this kind of info
I don't think so ....
Submitted by NL207 on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 11:42am.
Bush could not trust the CIA because of all the liberal moles in it that were leaking to the press in attempts to undermine him. Conservatives do not do this to Obama. Apparently Conservatoives within the CIA think their duty to the country transcends party politics. Not so the leftists.