Open Thread: Americans Vote With Their Feet
By NB Staff | December 27, 2010 | 10:50
Via Ed Morrissey, Gallup finds that all 10 of the states that lost House seats due to the new census numbers are majority-Democrat.
Nine of the 10 states that lost congressional seats as a result of this year’s census are in the Northeast or Midwest. The exception is Louisiana, whose population loss at least partly as a result of Hurricane Katrina cost it a seat. Politically, all 10 of these “losing” states skew Democratic in political orientation, based on Gallup’s latest state political identification data from January through June of this year. The two states that each lost two seats, Ohio and New York, have a net Democratic political identification of +7 and +19, respectively. The Democratic margin in the other eight losing states ranges from +20 in Massachusetts to +1 in Missouri.
Of course party affiliation is not the causal factor here, but there are a number of policies that Democrats consistently favor - and hence policies that are more likely to be in effect in blue states - that may be driving the shift. Ed Driscoll directs us to RealClearPolitics, where Diana Furchtgott offers one theory:
The American people have been voting with their feet, the Census Bureau announced on Tuesday, leaving states with heavy union influence and choosing to live in “right-to-work” states with higher job growth where they cannot be forced to join a union as a condition of employment.But the National Labor Relations Board, now dominated by Obama appointees, is deaf to the preferences of voting Americans. It wants to do everything in its administrative power to tilt the playing field towards unionization-even if it means higher unemployment and lost jobs.
And of course there's the tax issue, as Michael Barone noted:
Seven of the nine states that do not levy an income tax grew faster than the national average. The other two, South Dakota and New Hampshire, had the fastest growth in their regions, the Midwest and New England.
Altogether, 35 percent of the nation's total population growth occurred in these nine non-taxing states, which accounted for just 19 percent of total population at the beginning of the decade.
Which policy do you think is driving Americans from blue states? Or is an amalgam of left-wing policies responsible for the shift?
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Yeah, all of the above seem
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:00am.
Yeah, all of the above seem plausable reasons for the population shifts evidenced by the census data, but I think it has more to do with Andrew Breitbart and Glenn Beck's conserted effort to bring down the corrupt wing of the Obama socialist regime known as A.C.O.R.N.
If they had administered the census, as the Ass Clown had planned, we would be seeing a whole different picture.
Barack_Must_Go.....
"even if it means higher unemployment and lost jobs."
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:04am.
Exactly. Because the plan isn't about jobs, it's about unions.
Just like Obamacare isn't really about getting Americans health care; it's about taking over the health care industry.
To rule, not govern, America
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:19am.
It is only about the regimentation of every American's daily life and the strict, micromanaging control of every American's daily life.
It is all about His Majesty The Shahinshah's (and the Dems) desire to rule, not govern, the United States, and its subjects, err, citizens.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Remember Zero's slogan....................
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 2:18pm.
after the election in 08? "Ready to RULE from day one", not LEAD, but RULE.....this tells you everything you needed to know about this bunch.
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
Voting with my feet
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:17am.
I'm voting with my feet - by staying put. When I am done with academia I want to be hired someplace in TX, just because I won't be subject to state income tax. And there are things I can do here I can't easily do in a "blue state" like NY, such as sleep every night with a Beretta in a drawer nearby, AND be ready to use it if necessary, AND not be charged by the local bullies if I do use it.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Bingo! Exactly right.
Submitted by virginia republican on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:35am.
I sleep with a Beretta (92FS) loaded with 9mm hollow points in the night table next to my bed. My son, who lives in New York State isn't even allowed to possess a handgun without going through a 6 month long process to obtain permission from local authorities to own one. Apparently, the copy of the U.S. Constitution which authorities in New York State use omitted the word "not" which is in the second amendment, so their version states:
"....the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall be infringed."
Unfortunately, most people don't realize that it's not the function of the police to protect you. Their function is to catch criminals AFTER they've committed the crime.
So I guess the answer to the
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 12:29pm.
So I guess the answer to the question is that yes, while money plays a major role in my decision to remain in TX, Leftist policies also account for a large part of the decision. I like being able to carry a gun with a CHL, and have one in my home, and I also like knowing that I can buy more guns and do so in less than 30 minutes, provided my address on my driver's license is current. (Even better if you have a CHL here in TX.) I also like being able to eat what I damn well please without some busybody trying to dictate how much salt or transfats I can consume. I also like to have a selection of restaurants (if I don't approve of MickeyDs, I need not go there, but since I like MickeyDs, I visit every so often) and stores to choose from (if I don't shop at Wal-Mart, it's because I found a better deal elsewhere, not because I am enraged at Wal-Mart's success).
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
The Wussification of America has now gotten deep into the NFL
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:17am.
The NFL cancels game because of the weather? WTF is up with that?
Many of us more rabid football fans have been seeing this coming for years. Frankly, I am surprised it didn't happen sooner, given the direction the NFL has been heading in recent years.
What will be next? Mandating domed stadiums and covered parking areas so the fans don't get wet or cold? Wrapping players in pillows? Banning tackling outright?
I bet Art Donovan is somewhere crying in his beer.
-Dave
My theory
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:22am.
Dave, I suspect the issue might be that fans and personnel needed to support the game couldn't access the stadium. Hence postponement.
Or, at least, I truly hope that's the case. If not...the ONLY event that suspends or cancels football games, in terms of weather, is lightning. At least in my book.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Lightning, schmitling. What
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:29am.
Lightning, schmitling. What are the odds?
;-0
Philly is crappy at cleaning
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 9:59pm.
Philly is crappy at cleaning snow. And public transportation isn't exactly reliable. Hence canceling the game. The last thing the city needs was to have a bunch of badly behaved Philly fans stuck at the stadium.
Dave
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 3:09pm.
What really chaps my hiney is the way the NCAA handled the 5 players at Ohio State. If they had palyed at an SEC or ACC they would be ineligable to play in their bowl games. They give these 5 players a 5 game suspension next season. They probably won't be around next season opting to go pro so there is no punishment.
I am still pissed over what they did to the Heels and I know you are over the way they did AJ Green.
The Dems might think the average American is a dumbass
Submitted by no tingly legs on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:20am.
but he/she isn't. They tend to vote with their feet if at all possible. The Dems keep raising taxes to make up for lost revenue, but it just exacerbates the problem. I've read cases of multi-millionaires who fled New York for Florida and saved thousands of dollars PER DAY in city/state taxes. What will tend to increase for the blue states will be the population of uneducated residents who require more expenditures for welfare, education, law enforcement and prisons. When you increase the incentives for the non-contributors in society to set up housekeeping in your state and raise taxes which encourage the contributors to flee,it becomes a vicious circle. This isn't rocket science.
. What will tend to increase
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 2:31pm.
. What will tend to increase for the blue states will be the population of uneducated residents who require more expenditures for welfare, education, law enforcement and prisons.I think you can prove your point by looking at Michigan particulary Detroit.
I think you ca
I think trying to generalize
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:27am.
I think trying to generalize a the results of a ten-year census through political lenses is a bit dubious at best, given how easy it is to relocate in the 21st century. And since there were two stiff recessions during that decade -the second drastically evident in the housing market- a person's locale may be a bit of a wild card.
But it's also clear that people are politically more in tune than ever, and pay closer attention to national issues at least as deeply as local issues. Even as recent as ten years ago, I'd hazard a guess that many people weren't aware of neighboring states' tax rates and certainly not the right-to-work status. Now, however, people have the ability -and the inkling- to research that sort of thing. Internet access has opened up a whole new world to people, especially during the most recent decade.
So, I think being better informed has led to decisions that otherwise would not have been made in years past; moving out of state vs. remaining close to the traditional home is probably one of those.
In summation, I blame George Bush (with a late push by Sarah Palin.)
Hey bkeyser,
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:35am.
Let's blame George Bush (with a late push by Sarah Palin) for the blizzard that has paralyzed this wussie nation, including the NFL.
By the way, I had to put on long pants for Happy Hour last night! Can I blame Bush for that?
Who'd of thunk it?
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:30am.
"Seven of the nine states that do not levy an income tax grew faster than the national average."
The other two are practically in the arctic, but they did outgrow their taxing neighbors.
People are voting with their feet because of one issue (mostly). M O N E Y!!
Liberals want to take as much of your money as they can and spend it the way they want, because they are smarter than you, you jackwagons! Liberal policy is sinking every state that is controlled by democraps. The rest of us will eventually have to bail them out (i.e. pay their debts to the unions), so that the illusion can continue that they actually know what the hell is best for us. It really sucks.
I, personally, left a really high tax state to move to a nice warm no income tax state, and the money I save actually pays for living in this paradise! I'd be nuts NOT to be here! Hell, even the homeless who still can think migrate down here for the weather. If you're going to get drunk and sleep outside, where better! But liberals, who are soooooo damned smart, can't seem to get their mind around the simple economic fact that most Americans want to keep the money they earned.
Hey, I don't mind helping the down trodden, but paying expensive government employee salaries, and other union benefits ain't my idea of fair. Those ah, souls make more than ALL vets, and most private sector "workers." By the way, we're all "working class" if we earn money working.
Love the last sentence
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:36am.
Newsbubba, in a history class, I mentioned that last sentence of yours about a year ago. Not quite that way, but I followed up my comments on why "working class" was a stupid term with "What, you think Steve Jobs and Bill Gates don't work?"
It filled me with glee to see thos kids stop and think about it, and at least five of them said "I never looked at it like that before".
It reminded me of the scene in They Live when the subliminal messages were stopped somehow and everyone started coming down with headaches because they were so used to seeing them. :o)
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Thanks, Unsane ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:42am.
... for being a History teacher! God knows our kids need it!
Too bad we can't require adults to study history again, and again, and again ...!
I'm rereading an old book, "The Charm School," right now. The writer, Nelson DeMille didn't know it at the time (1988), but he practically forecast what has happened to us today. It is a great case for checking birth certificates and backgrounds of people who want to be high ranking government officials.
Hey, I'm just saying .... All conspiracies ain't theory.
Clarification
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 12:08pm.
A long story, but I'm no history teacher. I know for a fact, though, that if I was turned loose in a high school classroom, I would be the BEST history teacher there ever was. Why? Because of my obsessive devotion to history, above all.
But the way I would teach history - making the poor dears write, write, and write some more - is complete anathema to the way public schools in the United States insist history be taught. So I will not be in a public school as a teacher, now - or possibly ever.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Keep reading history then, Unsane.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 12:13pm.
Keep reading! It is stranger than fiction. You can't make up stuff like the truth. That's what I love about reading history.
History
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 12:30pm.
I don't watch horror movies or slasher flicks anymore.
Why should I when I read history?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
~History
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 12:37pm.
A series of bloodbaths interspersed with periods of famine, plague, and pestilence.
Yeah, Bru.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 2:28pm.
No wonder they don't let kids read about it! It's much better for them to stand out on the street and watch a gang banger drive-by.
Good advice, but
Submitted by Model850 on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 12:34pm.
Just remember what Churchill said:
History is written by the victors.
Blessed are those who expect nothing, for they shall not be disappointed.
Right 850.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 2:30pm.
Someone wise also said that, "War doesn't determine who is right, but who is left."
Let's hope that the USA always gets to write history.
Amen
Submitted by Model850 on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 2:46pm.
Let's hope that the USA always gets to write history.
Amen to that.
Blessed are those who expect nothing, for they shall not be disappointed.
Amalgam of Leftie Policies. Taxes #1.
Submitted by Red Jeep on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:41am.
Regarding New York State: "The Empire State is being drained of an invaluable resource—people. From 2000 to 2008, in both absolute and relative terms, New York experienced the nation's largest loss of residents to other states—a net domestic migration outflow of over 1.5 million, or 8 percent of its population at the start of the decade...
...Households moving out of New York State had average incomes 13 percent higher than those moving into New York during the most recent year for which such data are available. In 2006-07 alone, the migration flow out of New York drained $4.3 billion in taxpayer income from the state...
...New York State’s net domestic migration loss during this decade is the continuation of a longer-term trend. During the 1990s, New York lost 1.7 million people to other states."
http://www.empirecenter.org/pb/2009/10/empirestateexodus102709.cfm
Let's raise taxes some more in NYS. Maybe we can increase the exodus rate.
in the 2020 census
Submitted by Tjexcite on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:41am.
If California has not falling into the sea the population will be down to at large congressional district levels and they will be calling to count illegals as they will make up 90% of the population.
Census counts everyone
Submitted by okiehawk44 on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 1:18pm.
2010 Census includes all residents including those here without permission from the rest of us.
I don't have a problem with lefties fleeing higher taxes
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:43am.
But I do have a problem when they take their destructive liberalism with them, and once resettled, resume voting for the same BS that ultimately caused them to flee to begin with.
Just look at Washington State and Oregon.
-Dave
Add
Submitted by okiehawk44 on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 1:22pm.
Colorado and New Mexico -- two formerly conservative states now distinctly liberal (leftist). There is something about Californians and New Yorkers when they move to another state to start pushing for the very same policies that caused taxes to be raised to such high levels that forced them to move in the first place. They are either really stupid or just believe that programs come without price tags.
Or...
Submitted by Unsane on Tue, 12/28/2010 - 2:16am.
They think that their policies failed because they were tried in NY or CA and will work just fine in (insert state here). They can't grasp that policies fail because THEY DON'T FRIGGING WORK.
TX and other states need to start entrenching conservatism in their state constitutions. Pronto.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Reversal of Fortune
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:50am.
Not only do the more productive Americans move to less oppressive States, the more beggarly Americans flock to those Democrat controlled States because of the easy Welfare entitlements.
There are big differences among States as to what constitutes Welfare entitlement. Yes, California, you have more than your share of ex-Texans. They really love your Welfare.
Huge NFC South game tonight here in the Dome
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 12:07pm.
My Falcons vs. the Aints.
The Falcons have already clinched a playoff spot, but should they win tonight, it means home field advantage for the playoffs.
Given their stellar record here in the Dome since Mike Smith took over as head coach, that is huge.
Yeah, I know the Falcons haven't fared all that well on MNF over the years, but this is a very different Falcons team than in years past.
Ya gotta like their chances. :-)
-Dave
If they don't beat the sucky
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 3:13pm.
If they don't beat the sucky Panthers next week they don't deserve the top seed.
Say, anybody have incest over the holidays?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 12:43pm.
Consensual, of course.
Ha-Ha-Ha
Submitted by Toast of the Town on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 12:50pm.
I vote with my middle finger. And it's usually facing DC.
My Honey and I live in Ohio-
Submitted by JIMMY1660 on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 1:03pm.
however time to move-Betty Sutton was re-elected-liberal through and through-we are leaving.
Ohio has the 5th highest taxes. BYE BYE OHIO. its that simple.
we take our Income and spending to a State that welcomes us.
after a life time of being a Buckeye-very difficult decision.
I will not support BHO and his liberals with Tax dollars if I can.
Texas, not Taxes
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 1:15pm.
I'd come to Texas if I were you, there's plenty of room. Just avoid Austin, that's unfortunately one of our most liberal towns.
-Jon
Jon....I think that is true............
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 2:34pm.
for most cities with "institutions of higher learning".....they tend to be ultra liberal......in my case, UC Berkley comes to mind.......a city full of "proffesors" who live in the world of theory......Berkley, the land of marxist wingnuts!
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
Here we have 2, Chapel Hill
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 3:17pm.
Here we have 2, Chapel Hill (UNC) and Durham (DOOK). NC State is more conservative because of the type of school, engineering and agricultural.
Jon
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 3:19pm.
I'd love to live in Texas-Gatesville or Cooperas Cove to be more specific. Find me a job in the maintenance field and I'll start loading the U-Haul.
Military towns
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 8:33pm.
I know those two places are near Ft. Hood, but it's an interesting area to be sure. Some of my friends who were in the army were stationed there before being deployed so some buddies of mine would go with me to see them a while back.(this was before that damned base shooting with that sorry Islamic terrorist son of a bitch "major" who needs to be hanged instead of put on trial)
There's one main street that's nothing but tattoo places and liquor stores up and down the street.
I haven't been there in a couple of years, don't have any friends stationed there lately.
-Jon
→ Happy Kwanzaa
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 1:07pm.
The President and his Wookie would like this opportunity to wish everyone a Happy Kwanzaa.
my response
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 1:12pm.
I'd like to wish the bogus potus and his wookiee a Happy Go To Hell.
-Jon
Commrade Obama's Kwansa
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 3:25pm.
Commrade Obama's Kwansa greeting. I couldn't believe he took an hour out of his busy schedule of golf to visit the Marines. Must have been raining at the time. And he darkened the doors of a church too.
Getting ready for the trail
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 3:46pm.
Well, they say he's getting ready to hit the campaign trail....as if he never left it.
That "greeting" was kinda funny, but that's Axelrod writing it. Just change the words and it's still the same for others.
-Jon
Boots are Made for Walking
Submitted by cruiser on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 2:08pm.
I love it when the true feelings of people win out over the propaganda of others. Many areas of our society have groups, political, religious, social, etc, that push agendas and try to ridicule any opposition. Rather than put up with the ridicule when the opposition speaks out, the people vote with their feet, and gravitate to places and organizations where they are respected and their ideas are appreciated. This is often done quietly, and the demographic, financial, and social results don't show up till later. Look at the states that have lost population. Look at the mainstream churches that tilted left for social reasons, not dogma, and have lost congregations. Look at newspapers and magazines that put the ideas of the left in the forefront of their coverage and have lost subscribers. The list can go on and on.
Meanwhile, the liberal politicians, activists, religious leaders, editors, etc, continue to pretend not to notice. They blame other factors as the society puts their boots on and walks away from the liberal elites.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.------ Groucho Marx
states' rights
Submitted by wizardjr on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 5:22pm.
This is an exact lesson in why the Founders created states' rights and why the Federal central command authority needs it's hands and feet cut off. If we "only" got rid of all the things that are not explicitly in the enumerated powers it would encourge voting with your feet. The coastal libs could go full on Marx while the South and Midwest could go Original Intent. Let the best ideas win... and without a zillion dollars of supports or subsidies or stealing gazillions from another state when your idiot idea craters.
The makers of society are
Submitted by deerjerkydave on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 2:17pm.
The makers of society are moving to the heartland as the takers remain in their liberal coastal utopias. Except liberal utopias don't create wealth and these coastal states are going bankrupt.
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"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite. -James MadisonMust convert? Already did!
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 3:08pm.
Guess the Somalis didn't get the memo or they believe the nonsense that comes out of the MSM which proves the education there is woefully pathetic. Or they skipped the part about tagiya-whatever that is in Koran School.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/27/somali-islamist-insurgents-th...
All he has to do is tell them privately that he's already one and the attacks won't happen. Ah, who am I kidding.......
-Jon
Gosh Jon
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 3:28pm.
I am posting you all kinds of links today. It is in the Koran.
What a rip off
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 4:49pm.
On 1/1/2011 the Discover Health Channel is no more. it will become the Oprah Winfield Network. I really liked a lot of the shows on their but they are going away for show like Dr. Phil, Oz and Suse Orman.
Chances are one of Discover
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 4:54pm.
Chances are one of Discover Health's sister stations will continue to air your shows.
Are you a touch typer Butt Hurt Diaper Troll?
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 6:25pm.
Because it must be really difficult locating keys with your head shoved right up your butt.
What, so desperate for company, you will just randomly reply to people with complete disregard for things like facts and truth and logic?
Yeah, a serial liar and an obnoxious troll can't take 20 seconds out of his day to DISCOVER that ricklail was probably referring to the loss of the channel on his cable provider. Discovery Health will likely go on.
Troll.
All for the ego of Oprah and
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 9:07pm.
All for the ego of Oprah and her followers who need someone to do their thinking for them.
the infection is spreading out...??
Submitted by wizardjr on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 5:17pm.
Are these the same asshats that screwed up Kalifornicate and then moved to Washington state where they did it all over again?? G*d save us if this infection is metastisizing. Having said that, welcome to all the 'normal' folks escaping from the joys of Marxism.
Well, with the Krazy
Submitted by bassndude on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 5:39pm.
Well, with the Krazy Kalifornians and Wishy Washy Washingtonions, they will bank rupt the entire country if we continue to elect liberals to National office. NYC, Boston and the other Marxist Meccas will always vote to bail out the tax and spend states when those states run out of residents.
My problem is, I don't want those people in my state. If they are tired of the way things are run in their former states, they are contaminated. They are taninted goods. We need an area we can let these people go to. We don't need these suitcase liberals.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
What Dave has to go through for charcoal grilled cheeseburgers
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 9:07pm.
LOL - It's friggin' frigid here tonight, and I had to scrape nearly 3" of snow off my 18.5" Weber I use for burgers, and then I had to bust the ice loose with a rubber mallett just to remove the lid.
Hey, when Dave wants to grill burgers, he's by God going to grill burgers. :-)
GO FALCONS!
-Dave
Well Dave*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 9:11pm.
With all the comments you have made about my Saints, the cold will be the least of your troubles if we beat the buzzards.
Hope you enjoy that burger
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 9:14pm.
More then the game,
Go SAINTS!!
Buzzards are we? LOL. I knew I'd be hearing from you two
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 9:35pm.
I just wish I had a ticket, as Falcons/Saints games are seriously big fun to go to in the Dome, as half the people their are Saints fans. Been that way as long as I can remember.
I hope the Falcons have figured out a way to contain Reggie Bush, or it might be a long night for us.
GO FALCONS!
And it sucks that the Yellow Britches lost to Air Force tonight. :-(
-Dave
Should be fun
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 9:47pm.
The pre-game is getting unwatchable.
That Freedom guy wore Tech out.
Hey Dave*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:16pm.
Is that your falcon? Better be careful, we can make a gumbo wid dat!
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Air-Force-falcon-goes-AWOL-at-the-Independence-B?urn=ncaaf-300926
Hawaii gov to release birth certificate
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 10:04pm.
Can't wait for this to happen. CNN admitted what was released was a certificate of live birth, NOT a birth certificate as previously claimed.
This newly elected governor finds it insulting that people would DARE to question O's citizenship, as he knew the parents...Where was this guy when Bush was/is getting called every name in the book?
Well, that was a first for me
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 10:11pm.
I have never seen pass interference called on both teams on the same play.
And Roddy White got screwed on the call, too, as he didn't push off the defender.
-Dave
First for me also
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:10pm.
The phantom blow to the head, and I guess running over Moore isnt pass interference either? The Zebras need to stay out of it, if they cant get it right
I hate zebras, especially vision-challenged ones
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:00pm.
I just hope Mike Smith doesn't stroke out before this game ends.
-Dave
Looks like the zebras finally got some glasses.
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 11:26pm.
:-)
-Dave
I am about to hurl up my cheeseburger
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 12/28/2010 - 12:30am.
Damned shame, too, as it was a really good one. :-(
-Dave
That's okay, as we'll just take it out on the Panthers next week
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 12/28/2010 - 12:45am.
Damn.
-Dave
Go Panthers
Submitted by Boudin on Tue, 12/28/2010 - 12:53am.
Where did all that D come from? Atlanta has a pretty good team, I am sure we will see you guys again