Open Thread

By NB Staff (Bio | Archive)
November 15, 2009 - 10:15 ET

For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: "Going Rogue."

With her book coming out, and scheduled interviews with Oprah Winfrey and Barbara Walters, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin will continue to be in the news this week.

Of course, this means she will continue to be trashed by all of her detractors in the media.

Question: has there ever been a political figure who wasn't a member of the White House that has received this kind of regular, constant trashing by the press? If so, who?

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Palin interviews

November 15, 2009 - 10:23 ET by Blonde

BOR was on F&F Sunday this a.m. (does anyone else find this to be far superior to the week-day pap? Love Alyson & the guys)....he is going to do an extensive interview with Palin, which will air Thursday, Friday, and next Monday.

He said he'd talked to Katie Couric regarding "the interview"....so if BOR can shut his big fat opining mouth and actually interview Sarah Palin, it might be worth watching.

I hope he fails, too.

Great question, because she is now only a private citizen

November 15, 2009 - 10:26 ET by jondelwiche

It is stunning the venom the left saves for
those women and minorities it views as "off the reservation."
How can people not celebrate her story? I guess because they fear her and her grass roots populism.
My answer: a rush limbaugh, again because they fear him, but she stands alone for being portrayed as a intellectual "lightweight."

PS--MTP just tried to bait Hilary to bash Palin but she had NONE of it and was absolutely glowing about Ms Palin. salute to Hil!

Awww, now people.. The

November 15, 2009 - 10:34 ET by Willis_Leon_Johnson

Awww, now people..

The leftist nutcases are just mad because she doesn't need a teleprompter to deliver resonating speeches.

When questioned, and no teleprompter in sight she gives coherent, relevant responses and answers.

The left has no answer to her abilities of intellectual prowess and they KNOW IT!

"no matter how low you set the bar, liberals can never quite measure up." -Me

http://gjresult.com

Palin drives them crazy

November 15, 2009 - 10:39 ET by Galvanic

Certainly not in contemporary politics. As I write this, the Chris Matthews' show is discussing her new book on his show, and it isn't even on sale until Tuesday. Of course, it was preceded by the obligatory Tina Fey impersonation.

Mr. Tingle (Chris Matthews) has just said that Palin's the GOP front runner and the one the others will have to beat. Repeating one of his favorite words, he says she has moxie. Why?

Sarah Palin is a pop culture political phenomenon, but any chances she had at winning the Presidency some day died when she resigned from the governship in Alaska. And I'm sure she understood this.

But as I posted on another thread, the liberal MSM has a sexual fixation with her. As a strong, beautiful conservative woman who is mother-grandmother-athlete-outdoorsman-former governor, she's simultaneously more feminist than the feminist elite, and more masculine than the metro-sexuals at the NY Times, Newsweek, and NBC. They hate her for the very American social and political values she embodies. The contradiction is their unending source of torment, and they lash out at the very sight of her.

She is fun to watch

November 15, 2009 - 12:26 ET by StarAZ

I keep up with Sarah--even on Team Sarah. She kicks the proverbial. I have no doubt she could "bone up" enough to address issues just as well as "Deliberation Man." And she is a straight shooter. I fear these twits and that goofy commedienne may have deep-sixed her, but I am with her every inch of the way to see what she can do with this situation. As my 27-yr-old daughter said after Palin's onvention speech--"Mom, that woman could do anything." PS I would not have that mouthbreathing Levi over to dinner--but hey, holiday meals are MADE for things like that. We call them the Great Wad-Ups.

As a citizen of the USofA, I NEVER

November 15, 2009 - 12:27 ET by FastEd

Thought I'd be as ashamed of my president as I am now - to think that the representative of the greatest country to inhabit this planet, to bow to any other head of state is an embarassment. Can this guy be any more amatureish? For somebody who is "supposed" to so smart to act so stupidly - maybe I'm just reacting without all the facts.

Proud member of the MOB - Move Over Barack, we want our country back!

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

WH Spin of Bow

November 15, 2009 - 12:46 ET by slickwillie2001

White House defending deep bow to Emperor Akihito as 'proper protocol', along with a series of photos of other world leaders greeting the emperor:

http://www.weaselzippers.net

It'll be fun to see how Gibbs tapdances around this Monday.

slick~~

November 15, 2009 - 13:01 ET by BKeyser

The WH says that Barry's speech "enhanced both the position and status of the U.S., relative to Japan."

Did anybody think this was a great concern? Japan? Japan goes bye-bye if not for the U.S. Two decades of a stagnant economy surviving almost entirely on exports to the U.S.and we need to enhance our status? Not like they'll be sending troops to Afghanistan, unless it's Marines from Okinawa...

No, B...according to Obama,

November 15, 2009 - 13:09 ET by motherbelt

No, B...according to Obama, America is no more important than any other country; no matter what anyone else says. We are no better.

Don't forget that when he was asked on his European field trip whether he believed in "American Exceptionalism" he said:

"I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits
believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek
exceptionalism.

In other words, we are all exceptional... you know, like Lake Wobegone, where all the kids are "above average."

WeaselZippers has this from

November 15, 2009 - 13:05 ET by motherbelt

WeaselZippers has this from an unnamed WH official:

“I think that those who
try to politicize those things are just way, way, way off base,” the
official said. “He observes protocol.....

He does? American protocol says that an American President does NOT bow to royalty....not even the Kennedys!! (OK, I made up that part about the Kennedys....)

But is this official saying that all those other leaders who didn't bow did NOT observe protocol????

And as noted, neither the Saudi King nor the Emperor returned the "courtesy." They both "accepted" his subservience.

Way to go, groveler-in-chief!

mb, see my post

November 15, 2009 - 13:17 ET by FastEd

I have to agree - OUR protocol says enough, and unfortunatley, our "bower" in chief, doesn't seem to know that he represents ME (and the rest of us here), and WE don't bow!! Let the WH show us who else has bowed to other heads-of-state. "this is the first time, in my adult life, that I'm not proud to be a citizen of the US". When does the groveling(sic) start??

Proud member of the MOB - Move Over Barack, we want our country back!

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

MB, please don't invoke the word "Kennedy"

November 15, 2009 - 16:41 ET by SickofLibs

That could be perceived as "summoning the _ _ _ _ _"!

There are still a couple of

November 15, 2009 - 18:18 ET by motherbelt

There are still a couple of Kennedys around who will probably "inherit" the adulation of the media who need some kind of "royalty" to slobber over...

The Phyllis Force

November 15, 2009 - 14:01 ET by miss911ninja

Another political figure who received constant trashing by the press was the ultra conservative activist, author, and some would say "populist" (like Palin) Phyllis Schlafly. She really was a force for good. But not according to the left, of course. They made a villain out of her!

Bank of America

November 15, 2009 - 13:12 ET by ricklail

If you have any dealings with BoA get out now. Rumor has it that John Corzine is going to be the new CEO. There is also talk they may move their HQ from Charlotte to NYC. This would be a disaster for Charlotte and BoA customers.

Semper suprene nitens

There is no point dwelling on all the foolish mistakes we have made in our lives. For one thing, it can be very time-consuming. Dr. Thomas Sowell

A-well-a everybody's heard about the bird

November 15, 2009 - 14:14 ET by Dan Diego

O-bama mmm mmm Mao, bama mmm mmm Mao

Well don't you know about the bird?

Well, everybody knows that the bird is a turd!

A-well-the bird, bird, b-bird's a turd.

O bama mmm mmm Mao, bama mmm mmm Mao...

Does anyone suppose that BO

November 15, 2009 - 15:05 ET by Trix Rabbit

Does anyone suppose that BO will bow even lower and grovel before the Chinese so that they will buy even more of our debts?

For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.

Ian Anderson "Wind up"

Here's the picture~~

November 15, 2009 - 15:35 ET by BKeyser

Funny you should mention that Trix, I had the same thought. In fact, I imagine it will look something like this.

BKeyser,

November 15, 2009 - 17:32 ET by Trix Rabbit

Yep, that about sizes it up.

For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.

Ian Anderson "Wind up"

NB staff, have you seen this from Politico?

November 15, 2009 - 16:24 ET by BKeyser

SINGAPORE – A senior administration official said President Barack Obama was simply observing protocol when he bowed to Japanese Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko upon arriving at the Imperial Palace in Tokyo on Saturday.

“I think that those who try to politicize those things are just way, way, way off base,” the official said. “He observes protocol. But I don’t think anybody who was in Japan – who saw his speech and the reaction to it, certainly those who witnesses his bilateral meetings there – would say anything other than that he enhanced both the position and the status of the U.S., relative to Japan. It was a good, positive visit at an important time, because there’s a lot going on in Japan.”

The Drudge Report gave a banner headline to a photo of the encounter: “OBAMA BOWS BEFORE JAPAN’S EMPEROR.” Drudge linked to a Los Angeles Times blog post that headlined the photo: “How low will he go?” That led to a raft of e-mail to POLITICO asking why we weren’t covering this big story.

That's it. The story in it's entirety. Anybody think there may have been a question left unanswered?