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By NB Staff (Bio | Archive)
October 23, 2009 - 08:41 ET

For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: Palin endorses NY-23 Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman.

The people of the 23rd Congressional District of New York are ready to shake things up, and Doug Hoffman is coming on strong as Election Day approaches! He needs our help now...

The federal government borrows, spends, and prints too much money, while our national debt hits a record high. Government is growing while the private sector is shrinking, and unemployment is on the rise. Doug Hoffman is committed to ending the reckless spending in Washington, D.C. and the massive increase in the size and scope of the federal government. He is also fully committed to supporting our men and women in uniform as they seek to honorably complete their missions overseas.

Will Palin turn the tide in Upstate New York?

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HOOOORAY

October 23, 2009 - 08:44 ET by jacktheripper

lets hope the RINO goes down...thank you SP

"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can
bribe the people with their own money." – Alexis de Tocqueville

Sarah's got balls.

October 23, 2009 - 08:59 ET by notonmywatch

Sarah's got balls. Thatcheresque balls.

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Hey, I sent a donation thanks to Palin

October 23, 2009 - 08:44 ET by legacyrepublican

Hey, I sent a donation thanks to Palin to Doug Hoffman.

I am sooooo tired of RINOs!!!

~Wonderful!

October 23, 2009 - 08:55 ET by choselife3x

If that doesn't turn the tide in his favor, nothing will!

dborschjr68, CTPatriot, and pelicanmarsh are dead to me. I want
nothing to do with them as they represent a time for me that was less
than Christian and less than appropriate. --black47211 aka donaldborschjr

Chose~

October 23, 2009 - 09:23 ET by Georgia Girl

You have the most clunky tagline on the whole site, girl! LOL. ;) And I'd also say that you are someone who takes my tagline quite seriously. :)

"There is nothing to fear except the persistent refusal to find out the truth, the persistent refusal to analyze the causes of happenings" ~Dorothy Thompson, writer ("First Lady of American Journalism")

~Right

October 23, 2009 - 14:26 ET by choselife3x

On both counts!

It entirely possible...

October 23, 2009 - 09:12 ET by BKeyser

in my estimation. She'll likely bring out the National Media on this race now, since few have mentioned it to date. Dick Armey also endorsed Hoffman. Sure will be an embarrassment for Newt, the NRCC and RNC if the RINO gets beat, that for sure.

I want to know who's behind the scenes for Sarah Palin. Personally, I really like her and actually predicted her to be McRINO's running mate about two weeks before the announcement last fall. But no one can do what she's done all by herself, especially coming from Alaska. Nothing wrong with Alaska- it just doesn't get much attention. But someone had to recognize her talent, potential, and star power and communicate that to the McRINO folks with enough persuasion to get her on the national ticket. Who is it/are they? And if they're still involved, they've really got a perfect sense of timing.

~It's simple

October 23, 2009 - 09:16 ET by choselife3x

The RINO's didn't pick her for her talent. They picked her to destroy her career.

POV

October 23, 2009 - 09:28 ET by legacyrepublican

I think your POV has some validity.

My POV is that McRINO chose Palin for the same reason RINOs always do which is to give some lip service to the conservatives before they walk all over us or throw us under the bus.

They seem to say "See, we will include you at the table unlike the Democrats, so sit down and shut up and maybe you will get what you want!"

After this last election, I think we all have had it with what the RINOs have done to us and to the Party.

Hoffman's campaign is the perfect place where we can make it clear to the Republican Party that we won't be ignored or walked over any longer!

chose and legacy~~~

October 23, 2009 - 09:33 ET by BKeyser

The only argument I would make here is that she was chosen to be the VP and even though we all new he wouldn't win, I think McRINO was running to win the Presidency. After the unelectable lost the election, then he became complicit in trying to destroy her career.

~I think he would have liked to win

October 23, 2009 - 14:31 ET by choselife3x

But it didn't look to me like he wanted it enough. Personally, I think a McCain presidency would have been a disaster that would have sunk conservatism for at least the next two decades.

After seeing the way Palin was treated by the GOP establishment, McCain, his campaign workers, etc., I firmly believe the right was trying as hard as the left to destroy her.

Because she's everything they are supposed to be, but aren't, and never will be.

Basically correct

October 23, 2009 - 18:15 ET by UpNorth

cl3x, but it wasn't the "right" it was the left of center RINO's. I think that McCain's handlers and his daughter found out they'd picked someone who they couldn't handle, so the next best thing, try to destroy her.

As to wanting to be president, if McC really did, he'd have gone after 0 for his ties to Wright, Ayers and all of his communist/lefty friends, not to mention his total lack of experience, and mysterious lack of record. It was his election to lose, and lose he did.

Sarah got the pick for two

October 23, 2009 - 09:50 ET by Bruzilla

Sarah got the pick for two reasons. First, McCain was told he would not get much RNC support if he made his number one pick - Joe Lieberman. Once Lieberman was out, he tried to get Romney, Huckabee, or Palenty, but they were smart enough to see McCain was a loser and decided not to hitch their futures to his. That meant that McCain had to find someone who was qualified and, more importantly, would say "yes".

Second, his pick came after the Democrat convention, where Obama had just turned down the Hillary for VP. Remember all those interviews of women outside the convention who were ticked that Hillary wasn't picked, and who said it was time a woman had that job? All that wailing and teeth nashing about Hillary made McCain think picking a woman would get all those upset Dems to vote for him (yeah... right), so then he needed a woman who would say "yes".

Enter Sarah Palin.

Hiya Bruz~~

October 23, 2009 - 10:00 ET by BKeyser

Yeah, I knew that's why she was picked, but what I'm wondering is who was promoting her. There's no way McRINO knew of her beforehand, and it's not likely that anyone running that debacle of a campaign knew of her either. So my guess is someone, probably closely tied to Palin, determined that she would be good for the ticket (which she was) and sold that angle to them. Maybe they finished every sentence with "my friend" or something.

I just think there's some really smart people closely allied with Sarah and coupled with her natural political instinct, she's become a real policy-shaper, seeingly out of left field.

Re Promoting

October 23, 2009 - 10:09 ET by slickwillie2001

Wasn't Bill Kristol a big Sarah fan long before anyone else? And isn't he friends with McCain?

slick~~

October 23, 2009 - 11:00 ET by BKeyser

He does defend her well. Don't know about history though...

There was a LOT more to the

October 23, 2009 - 20:36 ET by Gary P Jackson

There was a LOT more to the Palin pick than all of this.

For one, there was an incredible "Draft Palin For VP" movement that started up really as soon as the primaries kicked off. More than a couple of eforts, in fact.

According to A B Culvahouse, the D C lawyer, and former Reagan advisor who vetted all of McCain's TWENTY-FIVE potential VP picks, Lieberman was never a real consideration. For one, there are a couple of states that wouldn't allow someone from one party to pick a running mate from a different one. So that was that.

I don't have the link, but you can google it, Culvahouse gave a speech to the Press Club, and C-Span covered it. It's interesting.

Anyhow, Culvahouse already knew Palin fairly well. He had represented Exxon-Mobil and went against her a few times.

According to his speech though, it came down to one thing with Sarah. McCain had three questions on national security. Evedently one included her take on using nuclear weapons. Culvahouse said she "knocked it out of the park!" His advice to McCain was "high risk, high reward."

From what I understand, Sarah doesn't really have much of anything in the way of staff. This is all her. I mean hell, all she needs is her computer and Facebook anyway! So far she has dominated much of the debate on ObamaCare, as well as energy, and the dollar.

I know she is close to Fred Thompson's wife Jeri (who is a founding member of Team Sarah) and Rudy. I also understand she has an open line to Dick Cheney.

Folks have to remember though, Sarah is very savvy. She was born to do this. She's a natural.

Re Staff

October 23, 2009 - 22:31 ET by slickwillie2001

If Palin runs for President, staff will be her big problem. She has no machine; what Alaska Republican machine there is, is insignificant and not all on her side. She'd have to build one, while staying as far as she can from any of McCain's people. There's the TEA machine, but those are beginners and may not all be willing to glom onto Palin.

Hillary had the Clinton machine that was built over a period of twenty years, the Bamster had the Chicago thug machine, President George W. Bush had the remains of his father's machine, etc. Those things are not created in a mere few months.

Upstate-r

October 23, 2009 - 09:18 ET by TheAssessor

I'm an upstate New Yorker. From what I'm hearing, Hoffman has a good chance of winning this thing. Plattsburgh may be tough to pull out. Lots of free programs up that way. I see he's been spending some time in that area though. We need this fresh face for N.Y.. Dem Cuomo will be the next governor barring a dramatic turn around of some sort. Patterson has about as much chance of winning as Obobo finding Bigfoot in his bed. Oh wait...

America.. land that I love

Morning Joe

October 23, 2009 - 09:31 ET by inquiringmind

I admit I watch a few minutes each morning to get a different perspective but watching the way Mika and crew were going off on Chaney was difficult to stomach. They were all saying, how dare he criticize a war time persident. How counterproductive this is.

I'm thinking , where was your indignation for the previous 7 years as every Democrate did everything to harm Bush/Chaney?

They also had Gibbs standing next to Todd in front of the White house. I thought Todd was going to lean over and plant a big wet kiss on Gibbs. It could not have been more gratitous.

Ditto

October 23, 2009 - 09:42 ET by BondPlainBond

Had to keep changing the channel and peeking back after a few minutes. The Cheney discussion was way over the top.

And Mika. Good grief! What is going on in that 'Bubbly" brain of hers?

I am so HAPPY that Joe and

October 23, 2009 - 14:13 ET by HelenS

I am so HAPPY that Joe and Mika are off the air here in DC - they temporarily had the 10 a.m. to 12 noon slot on WMAL (home to Rush, Sean, and the Great One) - and they were beyond annoying. Especially that tedious Mika with her pathetic attempts to be a cheer-leader for Joe or a heavy breather for whatever dufus they could assemble to supplement their very thinly veiled liberal-leaning attacks on real conservatives.

They are a pathetic duo whose continued existence can only be attributable to life-support from some external source because on their own they'd have crashed and burned on launch.

Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."

~Hey girl!

October 23, 2009 - 14:33 ET by choselife3x

Long time no see! Take your coat off and stay a while. ;-)

Sarah Palin kicked Newt right in the nads last night

October 23, 2009 - 09:43 ET by R D Helm

...and fired a warning shot at the republicans.

This is going to be interesting to watch.

-Dave

Our elected representatives have failed us.

I heard Newt on Ingraham's

October 23, 2009 - 09:50 ET by celator

I heard Newt on Ingraham's show yesterday. Man, he was so out of touch it was almost scary. Are the democrats paying him under the table to destroy the R's?

Wish I'd seen Palin take Newt on. She's coming on strong.

I did a little research yesterday and googled, "democrats attack Palin". Came up with 3.1 million hits. Looks like the D's are putting a lot of energy in getting rid of her.

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

celator,

October 23, 2009 - 09:55 ET by R D Helm

I agree, Newt's nuts.

I posted this on my blog this morning.

-Dave

Our elected representatives have failed us.

Dave.. read your

October 23, 2009 - 10:10 ET by celator

Dave.. read your blog...nicely done. I agree with your sentiments. I'm still looking for a movement to dump Snowe and Collins up here. The R's are hopeless at this time. We've been Rino'd in Maine for as long as I can remember.

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

Re Newt

October 23, 2009 - 10:19 ET by slickwillie2001

Newt makes me nuts. He's capable of moments of brilliance, but then at times he's like the worst of any McCain moment. He should remain a Republican/conservative pundit so we can pick and choose which of his ideas to accept and which to ignore. If he runs in the Republican primary for 2012, he will be one of the first to drop out.

slick,

October 23, 2009 - 10:34 ET by R D Helm

Sometimes I think the man is truly schizophrenic.

-Dave

Our elected representatives have failed us.

she inexplicably (or

October 23, 2009 - 17:17 ET by motherbelt

she inexplicably (or perhaps not) chalked up an endorsement from former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich earlier this week, and apparently enjoys the support of the party leadership.

Well, Dave, (channelling Seinfeld's Elaine Benes): that's because they are idiots. All they care about is the "R" after the name.

They continue to take advice from the likes of Carville and Begala, and think the way for a Republican to win is to be like a Democrat.

What a joke. When the next wave reaches its crest, they will be standing dazed on the shore, wonderingwhat the hell happened.

mb,

October 23, 2009 - 21:09 ET by R D Helm

When the next wave reaches its crest, they will be standing dazed on the shore, wondering what the hell happened.

LOL-The mental picture that conjured up was just priceless.

-Dave

Our elected representatives have failed us.

I hope she keeps kicking

October 23, 2009 - 10:08 ET by Blonde

I hope she heads right down to Florida to kick Charley Crist, too.

Marco Rubio and LTC Alan West could use her help to get over on the RINO and the Dem, respectively. I am hopeful we can get these two elected in 2010.

And Bill Nelson is next up in the Senate....we need a good conservative to run against him, as well.

I hope he fails, too.

Blonde, Palin is in the

October 23, 2009 - 10:17 ET by celator

Blonde, Palin is in the middle of a political movement that is being born, and old line, tassled shoes, bow-tied R's and D's sense it. Their time is marked and they don't like it at all.

Palin and those in this new movement (I don't what else to call it at this point), are closer to the people, commited to the country's success, understand what the rest of us are thinking and feeling. It's much larger than Palin. It's us, from Maine to California. We've HAD IT with the same old corruption.

There. I shall now take my nap. ;+}

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

“business-as-usual” NOT!

October 23, 2009 - 17:01 ET by needle

“[O]ld line, tassled shoes, bow-tied R's and D's sense it… and they don't like it at all.”

I do believe – and pray – that you are right.

What on earth are those “business-as-usual” – Sarah nailed that phrase perfectly – pols in DC thinking?!?

What on earth do they think all of those hundreds and hundreds of angry Townhalls and Tea Parties everywhere in the country have been all about anyway?

When ever has anyone seen anything like this in the US?!?

If they do not get it now, they fully deserve to get it in the rear next year!

- Relying upon the Liberal Media for your information is like relying upon an embezzler for your portfolio management.

- I didn't leave the Republican Party; the Republican Party left me.

What on earth do they think

October 23, 2009 - 17:19 ET by motherbelt

What on earth do they think all of those hundreds and hundreds of angry
Townhalls and Tea Parties everywhere in the country have been all about
anyway?

They "think" they were the far-left "kook fringe"....and are irrelevant.

J,

October 23, 2009 - 10:19 ET by R D Helm

Like I said elsewhere this morning, it is time for the Republican Party to put the RINOs in the zoo where they belong.

LOL-I cannot think of a better person to round them all up than Sarah Palin.

-Dave

Our elected representatives have failed us.

Agreed, gentlemen

October 23, 2009 - 10:31 ET by Blonde

Sarah Palin is going to be a kingmaker this time around....remember how "hot" Hillary was in democrat circles before Obama showed up? She was the fund-raising superstar. And Sarah Palin has far more superstar power than old Hill.

It's going to be great.

And just to throw a random thought out here, I think for Sarah Palin, it's personal. Obama and his minions purposefully demeaned her during the campaign (lipstick on a pig remark was Obama being "cute"), plus what they've done to her family. I'd hate to have someone like Sarah Palin personally mad at me, but I'm glad she's going after them, big time.

Have a nice nap, cel. Sarah has things pretty well in hand.

I hope he fails, too.

Re Personal

October 23, 2009 - 11:04 ET by slickwillie2001

Absolutely it's personal. The Bamster's thugs broke the Palin family financially, and invaded her family and turned them into daily fodder for the late-night liberal comics.

But it's also personal for the Bamster; Palin showed that the Bamster was not unique in his ability to bring in big crowds, and Palin didn't need a free rock and roll warmup concert to bring them in. For a narcissist like the Halfrican-in-Chief, a challenge like that is very personal and threatening.

Destroy your enemies

October 23, 2009 - 11:19 ET by ricklail

Our local talk show host reminded us this morning of how the Clintons destroyed their critics. He used the example of Monica and the dress. Had she not kept the dress she would have been destroyed.

Obama has decided to destroy the wrong people. People like Fox News, Limbaugh, and even Palin. It is not working like the Clinton's destruction did. Many of the American people have wised up. I really hope that more will wise up to Obama and his dogwashers.

Semper suprene nitens

OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.

Sarah Palin - RINO hunter

October 23, 2009 - 11:03 ET by SouthJersey1953

Love it! What a great slogan! Go get 'em Sarah!!!

"Maybe if we keep our heads buried in the sand, this will blow over" - The Congressional Republicans

Vic Mizzy and Soupy Sales are gone

October 23, 2009 - 09:44 ET by nolotrippen

The great Soupy Sales has died:
http://www.latimes.c...

And we've also lost Vic Mizzy (snap snap):
http://www.latimes.c...

“It is almost impossible to distinguish a politician from a gangster.” (Will Durant, 1931)

Global Warming Satire

October 23, 2009 - 10:07 ET by ricklail

I know this is satire on global warming but it is good. I think it is coming from the report that a cat adds as much to GW as a Volkwagen

Semper suprene nitens

OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.

Palin

October 23, 2009 - 09:47 ET by jessieH

Palin is an inteligent woman. She agrees with me.

Palin

October 24, 2009 - 08:14 ET by matthewdean

thanks jessie,

You started my day with a great laugh.

5:45 a.m. here on the Pacific Coast.

And Rubio...

October 23, 2009 - 10:06 ET by slickwillie2001

RINO Watch #2: Rasmussen Makes it Official -Marco Rubio More Electable Than Charlie Crist: http://www.redstate.com

"A new Rasmussen poll knocks the props out from the main argument why conservatives who would prefer to be represented in the Senate by Marco Rubio should nonetheless support Charlie Crist."

Knowing that if Rubio wins the primary, that he can win in the general will be enough to sway many conservatives to Rubio.

Marco Rubio

October 23, 2009 - 10:15 ET by Blonde

Has been beating Crist hands down in the straw polls amongst the local republican groups too. Also, I see the local mullet wrapper, the Sun Sentinel, has the long daggers out for Rubio in their political blogs.

It's all good. As I posted above, here in Broward, we have a fine young black conservative, LTC Alan West, who damn near beat the Pelosi lap dog....sophomore Ron Klein the last time out. I am hoping to meet LTC West soon, and I am actively supporting his campaign.

Thanks for the greatlink, slick. It's great to see Rubio is really gaining momentum. He's Jeb's protege, too. It's going to be great to see Crist fall flat on his face, Senate Republican endorsement and all.

I hope he fails, too.

Uppity Republicans

October 23, 2009 - 10:35 ET by ricklail

When I was a kid back in the 50's and 60's I was always told that Republicans were uppity-the country club crowd. The first time I got to vote was in Nixon's second term. I voted for him but regretted it. Then I vote for Jimma because Ford was the style Republican from my youth. (I don't need to be reminded about Jimma so keep the comments to yourselves.) Then along came Ronald Reagan. I still had my misgivings about the great communicator. He fooled me. He was the greatest president of my lifetime.

What I see today in the Republican party is the same thing I saw back in the 50' and 60's uppity-country clubbers. I see folks like Palin and Hoffman and see some hope for the Republicans. With assholes like Newt, Crist and McCain there is no hope until they get off the stage and let the truly conservatives take over again. I am not a registered Republican and probalby never will be. I remain unaffiliated and will vote for conservatives that are truly conservatives. Heck I'll vote for a Libertarain before voting for a country clubber.

Semper suprene nitens

OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.

Copycat Palin Book

October 23, 2009 - 11:31 ET by ThisnThat

Has anyone heard about the copycat Palin book that's coming out? Same picture on the cover. Same date of release. Almost the same name.

What's up with that? Book produced by the nation. Is this what the left stands for anymore? Are they that afraid of her?

__________
"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Øbama↓." - The liberals coolaid drinking song

TnT~~

October 23, 2009 - 11:35 ET by BKeyser

I'm actually working on the cover art for the bizzaro Ted Kennedy book at this moment. Then, we'll just need some folks to write it. Turnabout is fair play, right?

Re Book

October 23, 2009 - 11:40 ET by slickwillie2001

Dreams of That Guy That I Think Might Be My Father? Coauthored by Bill Layers?

Re Book

October 24, 2009 - 08:12 ET by matthewdean

Another great laugh for me this a.m.

Thanks much.

Here it is TnT

October 23, 2009 - 14:40 ET by general company

Link

Pretty sad,

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Of course, you all know

October 23, 2009 - 11:44 ET by KJ_sez

Of course, you all know that the SRM will pound the idea that, should Hoffman lose, Mrs. Palin is a "liability" and "irrelevant", right? They'll continue to denigrate her regardless of the outcome, but, if Hoffman loses, it will all be attributed to her involvement.

OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake, America!

KJ~~

October 23, 2009 - 11:58 ET by BKeyser

It looks like it's working so far. HotAir says Hoffman raise $116K the day after her endorsement. Compare that to $210K for the entire week prior.

Rush on Deeds

October 23, 2009 - 11:48 ET by slickwillie2001

Rush Limbaugh's first topic today was this article:

Deeds Should've Listened To Us, Senior Obama Officials Say: http://www.washingtonpost.com

...pointing out that the Bamster is already throwing Deeds under the bus. I guess that means they have given up on him. Rush also pointing out what a chilling effect a Deeds loss would have on the Blue Dogs. Maybe that's another reason that the Harry & Nan team are rushing the Obamacare vote.

FULL OF PISS AND VINEGAR TODAY

October 23, 2009 - 12:00 ET by ricklail

When I went to sleep last night I was confident that my Heels were going to add another note to Bobby Bowden's swan song. When the radio went off I learned that the Heels had lost to the old Geezer. I was really hoping that FSU would be 2-5 and looking at the possibilty that the Semiholes would not get a bowl bid. That is the way my day started. It hasn't gotten any better so I am posting a lot today being full of piss and vinegar.

Semper suprene nitens

OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.

Sorry about that Rick

October 23, 2009 - 12:10 ET by Blonde

I watched for a bit (wow....what a great color!!! Your stadium looked amazing)....and thought you had it well in hand when I hit a movie.

Gosh, I'd imagine Waaaahchant will have them "half way to bowl eligibility!!!!!!" and "We're gonna kick Urban's butt".

The Geezer Bowden won't get fired now...it was apparently a close run thing for a while.

Gripe all you want, friend. No worries.

I hope he fails, too.

They wore the all blue last

October 23, 2009 - 13:16 ET by ricklail

They wore the all blue last night for the first time that I remember. They have worn the blue pants and the blue jerseys but not at the same time. The color is too close to DOOK Blue for my taste. I am still partial to Carolina Blue.

After I heard the score on the radio, I turned the TV to Fox. They were talking about Obama's pay czar and the global warning cause by cats. That made it more depressing. To believe a poor little puddy cat added as much to global warming as a Volkswagen. These people have finally gone off the deep end. Obama's pay czar having the power to tell Wall Street exes what they could make. Then I see where Cutie Katie makes a comment about it all the time knowing she gets paid about 15 mil a year to be in last place. I feel like Dave. How much longer can we go on like this and still remain the great nation I grew up in.

Semper suprene nitens

OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.

The cat did it?

October 23, 2009 - 13:29 ET by Blonde

Wow, who knew?

I still think the blue was great.

As for the rest.....Costa Rica anyone?

I hope he fails, too.

Watched it until the end.

October 23, 2009 - 14:38 ET by ckc1227

Watched it until the end. Great comeback by the noles. Go FSU.

Semi-Holes

October 24, 2009 - 08:19 ET by matthewdean

Hey Rick,

Ain't they those half-ass Indians I heard about?

Butthead Arnold

October 23, 2009 - 12:36 ET by slickwillie2001

Worthless POS Schwarzenegger signs an environmental exemption for California, so a football stadium can be built, but he won't write one for the farmers in the Central Valley.

California's Putting Its Foot in the Sand: http://biglizards.net

Obama on our "so-called Founders"...

October 23, 2009 - 13:24 ET by PrairieSky

This is from Drudge...Apparently a portion of Obama's top secret college thesis has become available, and it is very disturbing...

http://www.drudge.com/news/126388/obamas-columbia-thesis-excerpt-surfaces

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan

I, too, was shocked, and it was just a tiny snippet

October 23, 2009 - 13:26 ET by SickofLibs

No wonder the rest of his "writings" are sealed up like an Egyptian tomb.

And he obviously borrowed the "so called" insult from Calypso Louie.

SoL...I knew that Obama was going to be...

October 23, 2009 - 13:45 ET by PrairieSky

an idiot incompetent as president...Based on what I knew about him before the election,that for me was a given. But...From what we have seen in these first 9 months, and what we have been discovering about him (like this piece of his thesis) little by little, it is becoming deeply alarming who this man REALLY is and what he wants to do to our country. The American people elected an imposter last fall...Obama sold himself as something and someone that he is not...A pandora's box has been opened, and it may end up being to late to close it and contain the damage.

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan

if that's true

October 23, 2009 - 13:29 ET by jon_torlin

Then that blows the puppet theory about him out of the water. The puppet being controlled by Soros and others only applies in the sense that they write scripts for him at various events so that he doesn't let slip how he really feels, which he's done a few times anyway (a la Joe the Plumber). No wonder he relies heavily on the teleprompter.

Of course, it's easy to see that the real him is coming out more and more these days than it was a few months ago.

This makes it all the more a dangerous situation we have in this country.

-Jon

jon...He's no puppet...I thought that...

October 23, 2009 - 13:51 ET by PrairieSky

myself at one time, but no more. He just has surrounded himself with a myriad of like-minded accomplices who are only too willing to run interference for (and if necessary, take the fall for) their beloved Obamessiah. This is frightening to realize that someone like this is sitting in the White House with this much control and power in his hands. Frightening.

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan

I think he used "so-called founders"...

October 23, 2009 - 13:33 ET by BKeyser

because Днем Защитника Отечества (Defenders of the Fatherland) was taken.

Note.....sarcasm blogpost

October 23, 2009 - 13:50 ET by Blonde

It looks like it's a link to Drudge, but it's not.

Drudge Retort.

I hope he fails, too.

Blonde... That it appears to be, but...

October 23, 2009 - 14:02 ET by PrairieSky

the Obama thesis piece is legit...After doing some checking, I found it also at Fox Nation. I'll look more carefully next time...Thanks for the heads-up.

http://www.thefoxnation.com/politics/2009/10/23/obama-college-thesis-so-called-founders-did-not-allow-economic-freedom

I also found it here...

http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2009/08/obama-college-thesis-constitution-is.html

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan

I see, Prairie

October 23, 2009 - 14:05 ET by Blonde

Rush mentioned this today, too....with great effect, LOL.

Maybe (oh how I HOPEY CHANGEY) this will force Obama to actually release it.

I hope he fails, too.

Joe Klein says ..

October 23, 2009 - 14:14 ET by katainkent

nonsense. I noticed this at the bottom of the blog..

Blonde...Yep...

October 23, 2009 - 14:16 ET by PrairieSky

Rush mentioned it, and I went looking for it in print, but it wasn't on his site yet...Like I said, I'll be more attentive next time. Thanks again!

Like you said, hopefully this will force "O" to release the entire paper. It's way overdue.

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan

Blonde

October 23, 2009 - 14:29 ET by ricklail

Wasn't this reported by someone during the campaign? This was not the first time I had heard the quote about the Founders.

Semper suprene nitens

OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.

hey blonde -- the actual

October 23, 2009 - 14:37 ET by Jack Bauer

hey blonde -- the actual subject of his 1984 thesis was US-USSR Arms Control.

I'm convinced the reason it's under lock and key, if not burned, is because he expressed his true support for the commies and slammed Reagan.

Hey seniors! Ready for Terri Schaivo healthcare? Perfected in the UK. Exported the US. To die for.

Re lock and key

October 23, 2009 - 16:51 ET by slickwillie2001

It may also be under lock and key because it is very poor quality work. That meshes well with the reason for burying his transcripts and SAT scores and everything else that might indicate his level of intelligence.

call me a skeptic - smells like a HOAX

October 23, 2009 - 14:41 ET by SouthJersey1953

As much as I believe he could wirte something like this, this sounds too much like a hoax. What does the supposed author, Joe Klein say? If the author of this report calls it false, then I believe him.

"Maybe if we keep our heads buried in the sand, this will blow over" - The Congressional Republicans

The level of intellectual

October 23, 2009 - 15:05 ET by KJ_sez

The level of intellectual discourse in the comments section for that piece is truly staggering. It's almost as breathtakingly cerebral as listening to two Angels and Yankees fans argue about which team is better. Almost.

OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake, America!

Maybe a hoax; lets let Dan

October 23, 2009 - 22:07 ET by Dan The Man 2

Maybe a hoax; lets let Dan rather and Mary Mapes take aq crack at it, tell eme its President Bush's thesis.

Obamas' thesis

October 24, 2009 - 08:24 ET by matthewdean

Prairie:

Have'nt looked at the link yet, but I betcha he colored outside the lines.

Less we forget

October 23, 2009 - 16:18 ET by ricklail

I did. Today marks the 26th annivessary of the bombing of the Beruit Marine Barracks. 241 Mairnes, sailors and soldiers lost their lives. Most of these men where from Camp Lejeune. Every year they hold at service there at the Beruit Memorial. If you ever get the chance stop by and see this memorial. THEY CAME IN PEACE.

Semper suprene nitens

OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.

A tip of the hat to 241 Marines

October 23, 2009 - 17:15 ET by Unsane

...and here I am, history geek, who was going to post the same. The terrorists have been at it LONG before 11 September 2001. Note the Marines we lost 26 years ago, as you point out.

I for one have not forgotten.

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Semper fi to my fallen

October 23, 2009 - 17:17 ET by BKeyser

Semper fi to my fallen brothers.

I was in the Army

October 23, 2009 - 17:54 ET by ricklail

I was in the Army but living here so close to Cherry Point and Camp Lejuene and having two son in laws, one a Navy Corpsman serving in Iraq with the 24th and the other, a Marine, getting read to go to Afganistan Tuesday I feel strong ties to the Marines. I don't feel I have earned the honor of saying Semper Fi so I'll just repeat what it says on the statue of McAuthur at West Point, Duty, Honor, Country.

I guess those words, THEY CAME IN PEACE, on the Beruit Memorial is what makes it so hard to look at. They weren't there to wage war but to bring peace to a country that I don't think knows anything about it.

Semper suprene nitens

OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.

Thanks for the reminder

October 23, 2009 - 19:10 ET by general company

Rick, fitting Memorial for those Solders, I visited it few times.

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Thanks, Rick

October 23, 2009 - 18:55 ET by Blonde

For that reminder.

RIP, Marines, and thank you for your service. And to those families who have missed their fine young men for 26 years, thank you, too. I grieve with you today.

I hope he fails, too.

Anita Dunn's Husband To Be New White House Counsel?

October 23, 2009 - 17:56 ET by celator

Yikes! Looks like there might be two Dunns in the WH. One on each side of Obama.

Headline from Fox News blog:

"Bob Bauer, Lawyer to Obama and Democratic Party, Eyed as New White House Counsel"

Here's the site:

http://whitehouse.bl...

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

I can trump that Celator

October 23, 2009 - 19:38 ET by general company

How about, White House: Policy 'czars' won't testify

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

The Pigeons

October 23, 2009 - 18:33 ET by ricklail

I don't care who you are this is funny!

Semper suprene nitens

OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.

I think this is the funniest....

October 23, 2009 - 19:14 ET by Blonde

commercial I've seen since "I can't believe I ate the whole thing" (Alka Seltzer with the oven door falling off....from the 70's).

I'm a pot haaawelle!

Seriously, we've been carrying on (3 adults, mind you, and my mom will turn 87 on Sunday) for two hours just cracking up over this silliness. Funny thing was, tho...until I found it on YouTube, not one of us knew who the ad was for! So it's a great ad, and a horrible one, too (unlike AFLEC....everyone knows for whom the stupid duck quacks).

And yes!!! I hope Rush has it parodied with Obama....I'm an a **heeeeeewelle!

I hope he fails, too.

J, I love that commercial, too.

October 23, 2009 - 21:16 ET by R D Helm

-And I usually don't watch commercials.

Come to think of it, I watch damn little TV, period, as it was by mere chance I even saw the GEICO commercial to begin with.

-Dave

Our elected representatives have failed us.

People aren't sure about

October 24, 2009 - 07:04 ET by RR GOP

People aren't sure about Palin because they want as much as they can get from the government (well, you all know that means the taxpayer and our employers), but on the other hand losing jobs and the other economic disasters brought on by the Socialists and their RINO buddies makes them realize that it is the conservatives who can turn this around.

But, again, they don't want to give up too many of their safety nets and "government programs". Actually, they need to realize these nets have holes in them and that these programs don't work, really only support the lazy and those who have taken themselves out of society because they've messed themselves up, and in the end takes away what they have managed to earn in both good and bad economic times.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.