Isn't the fine kinda against the goal of the Dems healthcare plan?  So, if my employer doesn't give me health insurance and I don't enroll in Obamacare, then I will have to pay another 5-10% of my income to the federal government for not doing as they wish.  Yeah, how is that for helping the poor.  The government already confiscates roughly 20% of what I earn (I am below poverty level for my area).  I'd like to see just one time where the Democrats push an initiative that actually helps the productive poor and not just the entitlement class.  I still don't understand how providing a government insurance option is supposed to help anything.  Medical expenses are going through the roof and as a result, so are insurance costs.  If they would actually tackle the reasons why medicine costs so much, then this absolute need for insurance for any small bit of medical care would be eliminated. 

These people are trying to fix a broken axle by replacing the tires.

This letter to the editor ran in our paper today. It is about our absent Senator 

A glossary for understanding what Obama is saying and what it means.

Semper suprene nitens

OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.  

Obama, and the rest of the democrats, promised that they wouldn't raid taxes on the "middle class."  But look at what they are proposing.  First they require everyone to buy insurance.  If you don't you'll be fined.  If you don't pay the fine, you'll be jailed.  If you DO buy insurance, but buy the wrong policy (according to their determinations as to what is the right policy), you'll be taxed for the value of that policy even though you don't PAY the full value at the time of "purchase", you only pay the amount of your premiums!  (Can you say SCAM?)

And this isn't limited to just the upper classes, this included the middle class as well.  At every step, the costs to the middle classes increases, despite their promises that this wouldn't cost the middle calls a dime! Damned if you do, damned if you don't!  Liberals, what is it that you WANT?

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

I reckon we know which wolf the 0-Dumb-uh duck is feeding.!!~~!!

The Two Wolves

One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people.  He said, 'My son, the battle is between two 'wolves' inside us all. 

One is Evil.
It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret , greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego. 

The other is Good.
It is joy, peace , love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.

The grandson thought about it for a minute And then asked his grandfather:  'Which wolf wins?'

The old Cherokee simply replied, 'The one you feed .'

If an unborn child cannot trust you, why should I,?? 

Obama-Joker poster spotted in Hollywood; this one labeled 'fascism'.

New Joker Poster Spotted in Los Angeles: http://www.americanthinker.com

French President Sarkozy Mocks Obama at UN Security Council: http://www.weaselzippers.net

Who could have predicted a couple of years ago that the President of France would insult the President of our country, and my response would be "Go Sarko"?

I posted this one earlier in another thread, but it relates specifically to the topic of this open thread.

I also saw someone mention they were looking for a one term T-shirt. Well, these aren't exactly T-shirts (note to anyone typing "shirt"- proof read before posting, I almost messed up) but the One Term idea got me thinking. So here's a photo op, and here's an invite. Maybe I'll try a T-shirt graphic later.

As always- comment are welcome, even if they're good ones!

Blonde just brought up a good point to me, and one that might be underused here.  This is an open thread in a very good forum community.  If you have a question or a problem, try posting it here.  There are a lot of knowledgeable people on this site who are more than willing to help out fellow forum members (regardless of ideology, lol).  We all have a valuable resource here.  Let's use it to reach out and lend each other a hand....

Just sharing a thought. 

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - There's nothing like a recession to help
clear the air of toxins and drive down pump prices -- but we all know
it can't last. Or can it?

Even some of the gloomier environmental prognosticators see the
world's steep recession possibly prompting a lasting shift in consumer
behavior that could form the basis of a more sustainable environment.

So, all we've gotta do is keep the economy at recession levels from this point forward. That Barry- crazy like a fox, ain't he?

Ok,lets use the thread for info. There is an organization ACI sending out surveys. This is not the government run census. People should be told they do not have to cooperate. Soc.Sec. Admin. also has a census/survey they have begun sending out. Also not part of the "Census". People need to be informed. These agencies claim to be gov. sponsored, official looking documents, but are not part of the census. People should be told of these surveys to be able to decide on their own if they wish to participate. IE, the soc. sec. survey I was told, want $18.00 when you submit.?? Scams??? I have not seen the forms from ACI but I did see the one from SS. It is a survey, not part of the census.