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For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: Hondurans unhappy with Obama.

Rejecting the return of ousted President Manuel Zelaya, Honduras' interim leaders dug in for a fight on Thursday after governments across the region demanded the deposed leftist be restored to power...The Organization of American States on Wednesday issued a weekend deadline for the interim government to reinstate Zelaya, in a standoff that is testing U.S. President Barack Obama's administration after he promised an era of better relations with the region..."We have established a democratic government and we will not cede to pressure from anyone. We are a sovereign country," said Roberto Micheletti, who was named as caretaker president by Honduran lawmakers shortly after Zelaya's ouster.

Is Obama on the wrong side of this one?

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But, but people from all

But, but people from all countries we're going to love Obama over that evil nasty dictator Bush.

Guess you can add Honduras with North Korea, Iran, etc. 

www.theholyrosary.org

"There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we can not resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary." -Sister Lucia

Tater

As one Catholic to another (assuming you're Catholic), thanks for promoting the Rosary.

Now if we could only get the pope to replace the mess that is the new Mass with the traditional Latin Mass, we'd really be able to begin to turn around the Catholic Faith (and therefore transform the country and the world). 

Obambi

has been on the wrong of eveything since the kool-aide drinkers elected him...reap what you sow,you MORONS

Your welcome.  I'd

Your welcome.  I'd encourage everybody to give it a try.  I've prayed it everyday for amlost two years.  Even though it is a simple prayer...it can be hard to pray at times and takes a lifetime to master.  I can tell you it's a great stress reliever and a good way to start the day if you do it first thing in the morning.

And for those concerned about what Obama's doing...google Austria overthrowing the Communist government without firing one shot by praying the rosary.  It's probably a more powerful weapon over evil and corrupt governments than anything else out there.

www.theholyrosary.org

"There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we can not resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary." -Sister Lucia

Tater

Not being a Catholic I don't understand all about the Rosary. I do understand that the all churches that claim to believe in the death, burial and ressurection of Christ need to get back to their traditions that withstood several thousand years of assaults from seculars and humansist. To that I mean 30 years ago people like Pelsoi, Kennedy et. al. that promoted abortion and gay rights would have been kicked out of the Church. They would been kicked out of Protestant churches too.

Semper suprene nitens

I agree. Why those

I agree. Why those politicans haven't been kicked out surprises me.

Back to the rosary it isn't just a prayer for Catholics...it can be prayed by anybody. This book I think explains it the best.

www.circleofprayer.c...

www.theholyrosary.org

"There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we can not resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary." -Sister Lucia

I think what happened is

I think what happened is that he jumped in and shot off his mouth before he knew the whole story.  He thought "coup....bad...can't support that!" And then his advisers stepped in and said, wait a minute, Mr. President, it's not what you think!

I think he is on the wrong side. He's siding with a President who wanted to trash his country's constitutional election laws. 

But I have no doubt that, as things shake out and perhaps change over time, he will also change, and eventually end up on the right side, and claiming that that's where he was all the time!

The old liberal ploy when changing sides:  I have always believed....

 

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

Mother

he will have no problem with this...He's siding with a President who wanted to trash his country's constitutional election laws.....as he is doing that HERE....trashing our constitution 

He sure has changed his

He sure has changed his tune on Irag now that it is a somewhat of a success.  

Semper suprene nitens

You are much too kind to

You are much too kind to the One, he didn't shoot off his mouth without thinking and his teleprompter person was going with the game plan.  Behind the scenes Obama's people via the State Department were trying to forstall Zelaya's arrest.  Obama KNEW the circumstances concerning the unlawful referendum this guy was planning and the ballots were printed in VENEZUELA!

http://hotair.com/ar...

http://faustasblog.c...

Read it here folks because the MSM isn't going to out their lover Obama on how he de facto is trying to over throw the lawful government of Honduras.  This is just another in a series of misrepresentations by Obama saying one thing and meaning the complete opposite.

 Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.

They ain't the only ones...

Sigh!

Obama's not been on the right side of an international issue yet

And I somehow doubt he ever will be.

Nice going, America.

-Dave

"Obama's health care 'reform' plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof." - Herman Cain

Talibastards buying children to use as suicide bombers

http://www.washingto...

Would somebody please tell me again why this is a "peaceful religion" that deserves our respect and understanding?

(h/t: HotAir Headlines)

-Dave

"Obama's health care 'reform' plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof." - Herman Cain

For Unsane

Who is forever ragging on the Nanny State.....over the top "warning" signs in Great (Nanny State Stating the Obvious) Britain.

We should all heed the warning, as it were.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Crap & Tax Exposed

My favorite D.C. reporter, Jamie Dupree, has actually been reading the Cap & Trade bill that was passed by our congress-critters last week. He has found some interesting little tidbits contained within:

"I know, I know. I'm probably boring you to death by going through the Cap and Trade bill with a fine tooth comb.

But today, let's talk about how it would direct money to the working poor in America.

On page 1193, the bill would add a section to the Social Security Act on an "Energy Refund Program."

Basically,
those making no more than 150% of the poverty line, would get monthly
cash payments from the government to offset the extra costs that are
caused by this bill.

In other words, as your energy bill goes up, the feds will help offset that increase."

How nice.

You can read his whole post here:

http://wsbradio.com/...

-Dave

"Obama's health care 'reform' plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof." - Herman Cain

Barney strikes again

Barney does not want the money being repayed to TARP to go back into the Treaury. He wants to spend it on other things.  

Semper suprene nitens

Unbelievable, rick

It never ends with that idiot.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Something needs to be done about Slobbering Bawney

That idiot is going to run this nation into the ground all by himself.

-Dave

"Obama's health care 'reform' plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof." - Herman Cain

HAIL HOUNDOURANS !!!!!!!!!!

Seems more Houndourans are more astute than most Americans

Let's give President Obama credit when credit is due. By

calling for the restoration of ousted leftist Honduras President Manuel Zelaya, President Obama is showing the citizens of the World that he can and will support his socialist brothers in Central and South America against the tyranny of democracy.

Not only is it payback for the endorsement of Nicaragua leftist thug President Daniel Ortega, but President Obama has won widespread praise from other leftist leaders, such as the Castro Brothers and former Bush-supporter Hugo Chavez, the leftist President of Venezuela.

Screw the Honduran people and the Honduran Supreme Court if they are unhappy with President Obama! This is Obama diplomacy at its very best! Viva Obama!

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The shocking video on how President Obama was elected.

Let's Diss America by Gwyneth Paltrow

It must be getting time for a US patriotic holiday because the MSM rolls out an interview with another dimwit who trashes America.  Interesting that it's Gwyneth Paltrow, again.  She currently doesn't have any big movies premiering, so why the interview???

A few choice cuts:

"Here in the United States an old building is about 17 (years old), and over there it's from 500 B.C."

Well the Pilgrims tried to haul the Elgin Marble with them, but it kept sinking the Mayflower, so they had to leave it behind.

"Also, the way people live over there. They seem to enjoy life a little bit more. They aren't running around as much as in New York."

Yes, because we know that New York represents the entire United States.  Nobody enjoys life or relaxes in those other 47 things that are attached to New York.  And the two that remain:  Hawaii (no relaxation there) and Alaska (Sarah Palin lives there so who can relax?)

She said she would love to act in her second tongue as well.

Well your acting in English was never any good, so go ahead, act in another language and see if you get any better.

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/07/01/2009-07-01_gwyneth_paltrow_disses_new_york_us_people_who_always_have_blackberries_on.html

500 B.C. ??? I didn't

500 B.C. ???

I didn't know Spainards were building stuff at the same time as the Babylonians. 

I would say living in NY or California would drive a person insane.  There are several states she could come to and feel like she's in paradise. 

www.theholyrosary.org

"There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we can not resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary." -Sister Lucia

Elitist snob

Bashes the very folks who provide her with a privledged lifestyle. Hope she stays over there. 

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Go green

Those old buildings from 500B.C., are they energy efficient? If not, your green friends currently in power will make you pay to retrofit them. Toot sweet.

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Goof, should have gone under the Paltrow thread.

"Also, the way people live over there. They seem to enjoy life a little bit more. They aren't running around as much as in New York."

Maybe she needs to move here to eastern NC. I think we are pretty laid back here.

Semper suprene nitens

No, she should move to

No, she should move to Europe and buy a 2500 year old house.

LOL

Can't you see her burning peat in the fireplace and having mice and bugs in her thatched roof and saying "Oh, isn't this so much better than the U.S."

Ziegler vs Allen

Yesterday there was an article here on Todd Purdum's slashing attack on Governor Palin, and subsequently Mike Allen of Politico gave a cloying interview on MSNBC where he complimented the article and added to the attack. Mike Ziegler later interviewed Allen on his radio show and demolished him. If you ever thought Politico was a serious journalism site, you may change your opinion after watching this interview:

John Ziegler Smacks Down Mike Allen, Part 1: http://www.youtube.com

John Ziegler Smacks Down Mike Allen, Part 2: http://www.youtube.com

Holly cow Slick

Allen is a moron,,wow a major moron.

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

I have never once thought

I have never once thought Politico was going to be anything but what it is...but I am going to view the links you have here later just to watch the wimp Mikey Allen get taken down.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

slickwillie2001 - Thank you for the Ziegler/Allen links. That

interview was so full of obfuscation, that I thought I was listening to a Barack Obama news conference.

However, I'm not surprised as many (if not most) on the left will lie, belittle and disparage those they don't agree without regard for facts and accuracy.

As for Joe Scarborough - He is an idiot, who will do and say anything to keep his job at KOSMSNBC.

Kudos to John Ziegler!

 

I just got done to this

I just got done listening to this also.

That had to be one of the most difficult, tortured 15 minutes of absolute lying spin I have ever sat through in a long time.

Btw...I am somewhat surprised Ziegler didn't think Allen was a lefty...he may never say that, but he is...and a wimpy one at that...he really is pathetic most of the time in my eyes...and I've been watching him for years....should have heard him one morning on the Washington Journal with callers etc.

Thanks for the links slick.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Scary

This is scary. I'm warning you. Not for the faint to heart. 

Semper suprene nitens

Lol rick... Scary

Lol rick...

Scary indeed.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Oxymoronic Question

"Is Obama on the wrong side of this one?"

Heh, it's a foreign policy issue.

"Say no more!"-various Monty Python skits

Liberalism is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it.---  Mark Twain(paraphrased)

Imagined

conversation between Hillary and the 0.

Hill: Mr. President, there's been a coup in Central America.

O: Well, good, another "progressive" will take over one of our        neighbors.

Hill: NO, Mr. President, the Hondurans threw out Zelaya, the "progressive" president, just because he wanted to rule for life, just like our bud, Hugo.

O: What?  Get the OAS, UN, and anyone else who will listen, this must not stand. I demand that Zelaya be returned to power immediately!!  Oh, and Hillary? please tell Hugo ixnay on the invasion talk.  Just do it, then we can agree that it was necessary for the restoration of "democratic" rule.    

UN.... Yep...and we know

UN....

Yep...and we know O wants the same thing for himself if he only could...some in congress are wanting the same thing.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

It's our governor, Gov.

It's our governor, Gov. Dumpling.  

Semper suprene nitens

Reveled ucw


Not unknowen anymore

Warning its a little sick,,,,but funny

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

But my teleprompter said.....

How can Comrade Obama be wrong? Hugo agrees with him.

 

"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys" P.J. O'Rourke

all I can hope for

is that if the same thing happened here we would have as much intestinal fortitude as the Hondurans - and not be a bunch of sheep milling about, waiting to be sheared.

___________________________________________ 
Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984

Obama Wrong Again

EnDash "Is Obama on the wrong side of this one?" He certainly is; but then he has been on the wrong side of just about every major (and many minor) issues since the day he took office.

Crap and Trade

Great article here on 50 bad things in the Crap and Trade bill:

A Garden of Piggish Delights: http://article.nationalreview.com

From the article:

"42. Another Obama constituency, the community-organizing gang — i.e., ACORN — will be eligible to receive billions in funding as the bill 'authorizes the Secretary [of Energy] to make grants to community development organizations to provide financing to businesses and projects that improve energy efficiency.' Think federally subsidized consultants paid $55 an hour to tell businesses to turn down their AC in the summer."

So ACORN will be the middleman in deciding how billions in grants to 'businesses and projects'? There's no potential for corruption there, is there?

"24. The bill requires the EPA to establish environmental standards for residences, meaning a federally dictated one-size-fits-all policy for greening every home in America. When you’re retrofitting your home according to EPA guidelines, it will come as little comfort to know that the government is reimbursing you for your troubles, especially if you’re doing the work around April 15."

So we will have to apply the same federal building code to homes in Minneapolis, Phoenix, and Galveston? That makes sense. And homes will have to be brought up to code before you can sell your home? This will devalue older homes and delay recovery of the real estate market. 

"43. Waxman-Markey also enables Obama to indulge his persistent desire to use the tax code to transfer wealth from people who pay taxes to people who don’t — i.e., from likely Republican voters to likely Obama voters. The bill “amends the Internal Revenue Code to allow certain low income taxpayers a refundable energy tax credit to compensate such taxpayers for reductions in their purchasing power, as identified and calculated by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), resulting from regulation of GHGs (greenhouse gases).” "

Of course, had to slip some income redistribution in there. Note the absence of numbers, it's a blank check, and it's for 'reductions in purchasing power', not simply for energy costs.

 

Bamma the bully

Looks like bamma is sending someone to Honduras to strong arm them into reinstating, the ousted pres. Basically reinstate him or starve I guess.

http://www.breitbart...

Wait a minute!!

I thought Obama Bin Biden wasn't into 'meddling' in other country's internal affairs??

In both cases, Iran and Honduras, he sides with dictators.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Another cover up is the US

Another cover up is the US is BLOCKING additional sanctions against Iran!  

According to the Italian prime minister, "the general leaning [among G8 leaders] is toward sanctions."

However, diplomatic sources in New York reported that American
officials are working behind the scenes to prevent new sanctions from
being imposed against Iran.

U.S. officials claimed that a tough stance toward Iran could
backfire, bringing about an opposite outcome to that desired by those
who support such measures.

The Obama administration, according to the diplomatic sources, has
discarded the notion of direct talks with Iran. However, the United
States is still interested in re-engaging Iran through the renewed
discussion of its nuclear program through the five permanent United
Nations Security Council members and Germany.

American officials expressed concern that a decision to enact harsh
steps against Iran during the G8 meeting could badly hurt the prospect
of Tehran agreeing to renew negotiations with the permanent Security
Council members.

http://www.haaretz.c...

And why do I need to go to a foreign news agency to get this info?

Do we now begin to see the linkage of Honduras to Iran?  Obama supports and shields those who subvert Democracy and the Rule of Law while at the same time claiming he supports the same.   This is typical of how he talks out of both sides of his mouth.

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.