For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: Obama and Company take over another industry?
The Senate struck a historic blow against smoking in America Thursday, voting overwhelmingly to give regulators new power to limit nicotine in the cigarettes that kill nearly a half-million people a year, to drastically curtail ads that glorify tobacco and to ban flavored products aimed at spreading the habit to young people...The legislation, one of the most dramatic anti-smoking initiatives since the surgeon general's report, would give the Food and Drug Administration authority to regulate the content, marketing and advertising of cigarettes and other tobacco products.
Is this good news, or another link in Obama's perpetually growing socialist chain? Is there ANYTHING these folks CAN'T take over or regulate if THEY believe it's in OUR best interest?
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Well considering that
June 12, 2009 - 08:40 ET by taterWell considering that smoking is a disgusting habit I do kind of agree with it. But yeah I could see the road we are going down.
Today cigs, tomorrow beer, the next day fast food, after that soda...
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Schools
June 12, 2009 - 08:48 ET by sevenWhat is a good fascist regime without total control of education. He can start with some huge districts that are insolvent and laying off teachers. He is good at rescue work. Take d. C. In his town. Ooops, People will want to see education improved. Like graduating or even staying in school. Who can he blame?
Step #1 Find a problem
#2 Find someone to blame for it
#3 Intro a take over plan with urgency.
Seven
June 12, 2009 - 11:12 ET by ricklailHave you read the book, Vision of the Anointed by Dr. Thomas Sowell? Your 3 points are similar to his except he had a fourth. Only the "anointed" can solve the problem. He has written extensively on American education too.
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Schools
June 12, 2009 - 08:51 ET by sevenCan he become ruler over California?
He can blame all of californias problems on a bad Republican Governator.
Cigarettes now; who knows
June 12, 2009 - 10:35 ET by motherbeltCigarettes now; who knows what tomorrow?
Yesterday The One was commenting about how 20% of the people use 80% of health care dollars....then he used an example of how people who are overweight get diabetes.....
Anyone see the Fat Police coming????
Lose weight or no health care for you!
Stop smoking or no medicine for you!
Not to mention his "cost-effective" treatment approach....who do you think will be the first to get kicked to the curb? Anyone near or over 60 should be worried...
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
It won't be 'no healthcare'
June 12, 2009 - 11:10 ET by KJ_sezYou won't be denied health care under the Obamination Plan if you're overweight or a smoker; you'll be forced to pay more money for it. You won't have the option of not having coverage, opting out, or going to another provider; any extra amount charged that you refuse to pay will be added to one of your existing tax bills - income or property in all likelihood. Or they'll just attach your bank account or wages, since they control the banks, and the Fourth Ammendment be damned.
How ironic that, after freeing so many around the world over so many years, we enslave ourselves for the cost of a doctor's visit.
$600 BILLION in new taxes for health care...
June 12, 2009 - 14:19 ET by KJ_sez...with costs admittedly topping $1 TRILLION.
Unhealthy, yes.
June 12, 2009 - 22:11 ET by GregEUnhealthy, yes. Disgusting? Everyone's entitled to their opinion of course, but I personally don't view it with that descriptive.
But aside from that, tobacco is kind of where all of this over-the-top began (I think, but I wasn't paying attention to much before those years). It was said the excess taxes on tobacco would lead to taxes on other things deemed "bad for you" later. People said nahhh, that won't happen.
Make no mistake, our founders were wise. Even though THEY were not interested in government running things, they knew that THEY would not be around forever and would be replaced with new folks for years to come. They knew government had no business in certain things....MOST things.
So here we are, the FDA is going to regulate the crap out of tobacco. And government crapola healthcare is in the cards. We let the government control healthcare, and passing gas will be FDA regulated in the name of bringing down healthcare costs.
Trick question--
June 12, 2009 - 08:50 ET by misterbillIt is good because of the harmful effects of smoking, tobacco, etc.
Bad because it is the use of government power to force people to conform to standards that abrogate the free choice of Americans.
Double bad because it plays into the hands of the new administration's efforts to socialize the country. In other words, those of us who may be happy that the government is forcing people to avoid substances that are dangerous, may not see the man behind the curtain pulling the strings of a society of marionettes. Whats next??==I nominate sugar.
I hate smoking--I wish everyone, (particularly, my family), would stop risking their lives and stinking up my world. But I value their freedom of choice highly and I see this bill as another step in the subjugation of the American populace.
Sugar?!? They're coming after sugar?!?
June 12, 2009 - 12:06 ET by TailgunnerThey can have the guns first.
(And they're not getting those either.)
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What Obama giveth with one hand he taketh away with both hands.
I'm going for a physical
June 12, 2009 - 22:13 ET by GregEI'm going for a physical next week. I think I'll tell my doctor to skip any rectal exam, I get one of those everyday. Just have the government transfer my record for verification.
I hear ya. I used to hate those exams too.
June 13, 2009 - 09:36 ET by TailgunnerBut my new doctor is a young and beautiful Indian lady.....; )
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What Obama giveth with one hand he taketh away with both hands.
Disgusting
June 12, 2009 - 08:58 ET by The ButcherPerhaps next we can severely limit those annoying ambulance chasing lawyer advertisements for the damage those creeps have done to society.
So much for ethics and transparency...
June 12, 2009 - 08:59 ET by Prester John(Courtesy NRO)
The AmeriCorps Inspector General investigated Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson, an Obama supporter, for misuse of federal grants. President Barack Obama, upholding high standards for ethics and responsible government, acted quickly...
... to fire the inspector general. Only Chuck Grassley screaming bloody murder seems to have delayed the axe.
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Link to Fox News coverage
June 12, 2009 - 10:05 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsLink to Fox News coverage of this.
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Re Americorps
June 12, 2009 - 10:36 ET by slickwillie2001Read a couple of articles on this today, outrageous. This is a clear-cut case of political corruption. What I don't know is the Americorps IG employment status; is he an 'at-leisure' employee or a regular civil servant? The articles don't mention this. If he is a regular civil servant, it looks like he could sue for unwarranted dismissal (if his firing goes through) and should win easily. He might also find refuge in whistle-blower protection laws.
The hotair article also has some discussion of M'chell's new 'responsibilities' in the White House re hiring and firing. I guess she's done with the garden and needs a little more to keep her busy.
PS Grassley not my favorite Republican but good for him on this.
Walpin
June 12, 2009 - 11:37 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsWalpin is a Bush appointee,
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While smoking is a nasty habit..
June 12, 2009 - 09:06 ET by sam12663...this is just another tentacle that this administration is extending into private business. It is facism dressed up as concern for the people, pure and simple. What I am most frustrated about is that not one company is standing up against this administration's continuing intrusion into private industries. When will someone fight back and challenge this overbearing, control freak of a president?
President Obama is nothing more than a lying empty suit; a Hollywood style special effects smoke and mirrors show that has shown itself to be a total fraud.
WAKE UP AMERICA! SAVE OUR CONSTITUTION!
Whats next...
June 12, 2009 - 09:13 ET by sam12663.... telling those on food stamps that they can't use them to buy Doritos and soda? Or that if you are on welfare, no trips to Mickey D's or Wendys. When will we see a food 'czar'? What won't this president try and control?
President Obama is nothing more than a lying empty suit; a Hollywood style special effects smoke and mirrors show that has shown itself to be a total fraud.
WAKE UP AMERICA! SAVE OUR CONSTITUTION!
Left-think
June 12, 2009 - 09:15 ET by AJBI read with great interest how much money this will save the health care industry once they abolish the evil tobacco. But, it seems to me smokers live shorter lives and the profit from their health insurance and life insurance from living shorter lives will not disappear. So, one effect will be higher insurance costs all around. And, those people will eventually die of something, right? Who's to say that won't then compound the cost of medical treatment? So, another well intended plan by Big Brother actually will backfire on them yet again. Pity.
OK, smoking companies, here's what you're going to do.
June 12, 2009 - 09:16 ET by nolotrippenOK, smoking companies, here's what you're going to do.
Close shop. Today. Bye-Bye cigarette taxes. Bye-Bye jobs. Bye-Bye eternal whipping boy status. The government strangles you with one hand (endless regulations) and picks your pocket with the other (taxes, taxes, and more taxes, most of it passed on to smokers).
So, go away. And don't be surprised if the goverment suddenly finds it can't live without you and runs after you pleading for you to come back.
Like your idea!
June 12, 2009 - 09:43 ET by Red JeepBut I suppose if that happened the government would be forced to take over that business and produce U.S. Smokes. Then they would get all the profit. Charge a buck a cig. Make it illegal to possess any cigarettes not made by the U. S. government.
I do wish everyone would quit just to starve a revenue stream to the government which would force the government to then turn around and raise taxes on everyone which might create the "final straw" for a tax revolt.
More on Prejean: Here's a
June 12, 2009 - 09:20 ET by balboaMore on Prejean:
Here's a transcript of some emails between Prejean and a pageant PR person. From Fox News:
transcript
Taxed to death
June 12, 2009 - 09:20 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsUh oh, think of the chilllllllllllllldren! Less smoking means less tax revenue means less government programs means less goodies for the poor pitiful deprived children stuck in the horrible mean racist country called America. We can't have that! Where will the poor suffering children get their government handouts now? I guess Obama will just have to (wait, here it comes):
Raise taxes on the middle class!
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GM next is GE, need to crush the competition, ya know.
June 12, 2009 - 09:23 ET by upcountrywaterSome insteresting things come from the free enterprise system.
The race has begun. If government gets out of the way, American consumers will be the winner.
Reagan VS Carter and 0bama
Government Intervention?
June 12, 2009 - 09:22 ET by Rovin"State intervention in economic production arises only when private initiative is lacking or insufficient, or when the political interests of the State are involved. This intervention may take the form of control, assistance or direct management." (pp. 135-136)
—Benito Mussolini, 1935, "Fascism: Doctrine and Institutions"
Does this in any way look familiar?
Rovin
Okay, all you WW2 history
June 12, 2009 - 09:40 ET by Roger the ShrubberOkay, all you WW2 history buffs, today is one of those days full of legendary figures and events.
1908: Otto Skorzeny was born.
1929: Anne Frank is born. She begins a diary on her 13th birthday.
1940: 50,000 British and French troops surrender to Erwin Rommel in France.
1944: The first V-1 rockets fly over the British Channel.
1944: The 501 and 506 dislodge the 6th Fallschirmjäger from Carentan.
Also, 22 years ago today, at the Brandenburg Gate: "Mr. Gorbachov, tear down this wall..."
"Carentan," the BoB episode
June 12, 2009 - 09:44 ET by balboa"Carentan," the BoB episode with Blithe. So good.
BTW, just finished reading "The Longest Day." AMAZING.
I hear ya, Bal. Awesome
June 12, 2009 - 09:52 ET by Roger the ShrubberI hear ya, Bal. Awesome book, awesome series... My favorite Call of Duty 2 map, too! :)
Where's Mighty Mouth? We haven't played against each other in a looong time!! hahahahah
Is that on Xbox? I love the
June 12, 2009 - 09:59 ET by balboaIs that on Xbox? I love the WW2 video games.
Actually, the PC. I now get
June 12, 2009 - 10:14 ET by Roger the ShrubberActually, the PC. I now get schooled by 12-year olds playing COD4 on PS3... :)
Don't like the 1st person
June 12, 2009 - 12:49 ET by BDDon't like the 1st person shooters....
But Close Combat V: Invasion Normandy is a valuable teaching tool for small unit combat.
Big fan of the Close Combat
June 12, 2009 - 13:09 ET by Roger the ShrubberBig fan of the Close Combat series, BD. Matrix Games re-released CC4 last year, and CC3 the year before (or so...).
Hours of fun killing Nazis!
I did not know that! My
June 12, 2009 - 15:07 ET by BDI did not know that!
My latest update to my computer made my previous versions of CC (purchased on 1999-2000 unworkable and I was bummed. I will now go looking for them and hope the new software will fix the issues.
Sadly, one of the few
June 12, 2009 - 12:44 ET by BDSadly, one of the few failings of BoB was that they decided to kill off Albert Blythe due to wounds suffered at Carentan for unknown reasons.
Th real Albert Blythe actually survived, stayed in the Army, and died years later from other causes.
Did Hanks and Spielberg do this to make the situation "Sadder" to evoke emotion in the viewer?
Thaks, BD
June 12, 2009 - 18:24 ET by BlondeI've always meant to read the book but have never gotten around to it.
I'm glad to hear Pvt. Blythe survived the War. As to your question, I suspect the producers felt killing him off would make more of an "episode" rather than his character not figuring into the rest of the story in a sort of prominent way (kind of like Buck...I always felt his story was left hanging in the miniseries). Of course, not having read the book, I could be way off base.
Thanks for the info, tho....I am going to have to get off my lazy summer attitude and hit Amazon, hard.
I hope he fails, too.
For some reason I thought
June 12, 2009 - 18:56 ET by balboaFor some reason I thought that they were under the impression that Blythe had died, and didn't find out until later that he had actually survived the war?
regarding Blithe
June 12, 2009 - 19:06 ET by balboaFrom the imdb page for BoB:
Despite what was suggested in the third episode, Pvt. Albert Blithe did not die in 1948. Fellow Easy Company Currahee veterans had thought that Blithe did not recover from his neck wound and had died in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, in 1948. He in fact recovered and undertook served several tours in Korea and Taiwan. He died in 1967; due to kidney failure.
But it was known prior to
June 12, 2009 - 21:40 ET by BDBut it was known prior to the movie being produced that he had survived. In fact the movie shows him in a hospital in England recovering and says he died in 1948.
hey Rog
June 12, 2009 - 10:23 ET by ricklailYou forgot George HW Bush and ME! Born on this day.
Oh yeah and Gomer Pyle.
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Happy Birthday!
June 12, 2009 - 10:34 ET by BlondeTo my friend Rick...many happy returns.
And President Bush the Elder, too.
I hope he fails, too.
Thanks Blonde. Only about 7
June 12, 2009 - 10:50 ET by ricklailThanks Blonde. Only about 7 weeks until colleges can start football practice. I am still following the College World Series. The Heels are still alive. They had 2 players drafted in the top 20 in the latest MLB draft. It has been a pretty good 4 years in a row for baseball and basketball. Wish I could say the same about football.
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Tee Hee, I know, Rick!
June 12, 2009 - 10:57 ET by BlondeI happened to notice Sunday morning that "Breakfast with the Gators" is back....they re-run our entire season, one game per week, which means football season is right around the corner! Of course, BWTG's is going to be as much fun as re-runs can be this year. :)
I'm glad to hear your beloved Tarheels are keeping you smiling. Life is sweet when your team(s) do well.
GO GATORS!!!!!!
I hope he fails, too.
For you, my dear
June 12, 2009 - 12:06 ET by Roger the ShrubberFor you, my dear Blondie...
Best comment within: You know Ted Bundy was only arrested once. He could've played at Florida.
I've go to take up for
June 12, 2009 - 13:46 ET by ricklailI've go to take up for Blonde. There are more Seminoles that get arrested than Gators. Oh yeah and Hurricanes. You can't spell scum without UM.
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Yeah, what ever happened to
June 12, 2009 - 14:01 ET by Roger the ShrubberYeah, what ever happened to FelonU?
All those recruits are going to Gainesville and Tallahassee instead!! haha! :)
Happy birthday,
June 12, 2009 - 11:55 ET by Roger the ShrubberHappy birthday, Rickster!
I hope you have a nice day dwn in North Cackalackee!
Happy B'Day rick. And the
June 12, 2009 - 16:24 ET by QueenMumHappy B'Day rick. And the same to George H.W.
BTW rick, George H.W. did some jumping today. How 'bout you?
"All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats." - Groucho Marx
Not to mention my boy
June 12, 2009 - 16:30 ET by KC MulvilleMy oldest turned 17 today. He's gonna be kicking my old ass soon, so I have to be nice to him.
1944: The first V-1
June 12, 2009 - 11:37 ET by Jack BauerEnglish, old boy. English. Just like the language!
Good job Obama wasn't President then -- imagine mirandizing two million Krauts.
Jack
June 12, 2009 - 11:46 ET by ricklailLOL You forgot about the Italians and Japanesse.
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The Italians fought in WW2?
June 12, 2009 - 12:02 ET by Roger the ShrubberThe Italians fought in WW2? I thought they only retreated.
Hmph.
il Shrubbe -- Benito Obama
June 12, 2009 - 12:10 ET by Jack Baueril Shrubbe -- Benito Obama thanks you
Whoops!
June 12, 2009 - 12:02 ET by Roger the ShrubberSorry, Jackson! I goofed!
Just for you, my friend: The Peasant's Revolt occured today in 1381. They knew how to negotiate back then, didn't they?
Oh, and I almost forgot: can you believe it's been 15 years to the day since O.J. didn't kill his ex-wife? all those golf courses searched, and he still hasn't found the killer!
Thanks Shrubbo. The
June 12, 2009 - 12:30 ET by Jack BauerThanks Shrubbo.
That's a coincidence, 628 years later and I'm still a revolting peasant!
What next?
June 12, 2009 - 09:44 ET by jimgebNow the government will force people to buy cars they don't want, tobacco that they don't want, health care they don't want, and they are well on their way making dollars that they will not want because it won't be worth much, that is, if there is anything left after taxes. Next will be the drug and oil industry.
The Walking Gaffe Machine
June 12, 2009 - 09:50 ET by Roger the ShrubberThe Walking Gaffe Machine is on the case!
To qoute The Messiah: Nobody messes with Joe!
smoking in america
June 12, 2009 - 10:00 ET by SemusAny GD stupid idiot that has the opinion I just read... well smoking is a disgusting habit so they agree with it... they're the biggest problem this country has. I'll tell them 2 disguting habits that should end 1) The tendency by some to think they are smarter and better than everyone else to the point that they should dictate how people should live. 2) The stupidity of those who empower the people mentioned in 1).
I am sick of this crimminally dangerous stupidity. And I don't smoke.
Obama also controls all 57
June 12, 2009 - 10:17 ET by ricklailObama also controls all 57 states now. By them taking the porkulus money, forced upon some states, they have sold their souls to Dear Leader. Just wait and see what I am saying. He is going to want something. (I was watching some old FRIENDS last night when they were trying to name all the states. I pretty sure that Joey was the one that came up with the number 57 so that is where Chairman Mao-Bama go the number.)
I figured out last night that if you take the collective IQ of the so called news people on MSNBC it might, jsut might come up to same level as Bonzo the Chimp.
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→ rick
June 12, 2009 - 10:28 ET by Cool ArrowThe Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) has 57 members.
Obama just forgot which country he supposedly belonged to at the time.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
Anyone who hasn't seen this
June 12, 2009 - 10:42 ET by motherbeltAnyone who hasn't seen this yet needs to hop over to Michelle Malkin's site.
She has been holding a "poster contest" for Obamacare....
Be sure to click on the "yesterday" link to see the first round entries too!
Also, The Anchoress has a great blog up today about how Obama is getting away with saying one thing while he does the complete opposite:
Obama, the Opposite of America
I've commented on that here before, but she has it all, and says it more eloquently than I ever could.
You have to wonder why the "watchdogs" in the media never question any of it.
Yeah, I know, deep down, it's what they want.....
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
What about Indian ciggies?
June 12, 2009 - 10:46 ET by Dan The Man 2What about Indian ciggies?
Smoking
June 12, 2009 - 11:13 ET by ricklailSeveral years ago the state of NC designated a few prisons to be made smoke free. That include inmates and staff. The director sent a memo the other day that all prisons will go tobacco free on 8-1-09. I quit smoking my pipe 2-1/2 years ago after a collapsed lung so it doesn't bother me. But there are a lot of folks around here up in arms. In a way they are killing their golden goose.
Tobacco products bring in about $90,000 a year in sales in the canteens here. The profits from the canteen sales went to buy recreation items and TVs. Gov Dumpling took some of that money a few weeks ago to pay the state's bills. So if they don't have the funds in "welfare"-that's what the fund is called-then they are just going to get it from the taxpayers. Because tobacco sales will be way down then the taxes on it that they plan on funding health care with in this state will be down too. So in order to pay all this spending they will be coming back to us taxpayers for more.
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That's how they get away
June 12, 2009 - 13:05 ET by motherbeltThat's how they get away with it, rick....everyone says yeah, tax them smokers. Same with SCHIP. Tax the smokers. Where do they think the money is going to come from when smokers quit or die (which, actually, is what they want)?
To hear the government talk the one in four, or whatever, people in the US who smoke can pay for everything!
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
The hippies grew up around
June 12, 2009 - 11:13 ET by RR GOPThe hippies grew up around their World War II veteran fathers smoking, drinking, cooking out, mowing the lawn, driving big cars etc...that's why they hate all those things.
Ah, if Freud had only lived long enough to examine that screwed up generation.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
The Hypocrite Generation
June 12, 2009 - 12:26 ET by GothampcI agree with your assessment of the hippies. I want to add that they did all their fathers did plus more (marijuana, free love, etc). Then once they had had all their fun, they decided that nobody else could have any fun. So they all became politicians so that they could legislate fun.
Isn't Obama a Cigarette
June 12, 2009 - 11:15 ET by Jack BauerIsn't Obama a Cigarette Addict?
Yup...
June 12, 2009 - 11:24 ET by KJ_sez...and we the taxpayers get to pay for his smokes. How convenient.
Pelosi
June 12, 2009 - 11:38 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsGee, remember this controversy? How quickly things get swept under the rug.
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Line of the Day
June 12, 2009 - 11:41 ET by ricklailYou've gotta love this line from Neal Boortz:
So Barney Frank, the quintessential void surrounded by a sphincter muscle-------
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Now that's eloquent! I
June 12, 2009 - 13:06 ET by motherbeltNow that's eloquent!
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Why release detainee photos? Rush connects the dots...
June 12, 2009 - 12:00 ET by TailgunnerNow Congressional Democrats are trying to give Obama cover by mandating the release of these inflammatory photos.
However, Obama has always had the final say on their release. So why would he not classify them and/or issue an executive order sealing them?
Here's why; Obama knows it will set the entire Muslim world on fire. There will be riots, killings and political instability.
Each detainee in these photos will be immediately hailed as a martyr. You want to talk about 'recruiting tools'?
There will be universal calls for the deaths of American infidels. But since they're hard to find in most of the Middle East, Muslims will have to settle for:
Israel.
Israel, to say the least, isn't on Obama's Christmas list.
What better way for Obama to break Netanyahu than to incite another intifada against Israel?
Widespread suicide bombings: Check.
Mass rocket attacks: Check.
Kidnapping and massacres? Check.
Netanyahu would be forced to lick Obama's boots in return for his influence with Islamist leaders...and to make concessions to date he has vigorously resisted.
Netanyahu is already facing US opposition to the inevitable need to strike Iran to prevent their gaining a nuclear weapon.
If Israel does this, they will remain independent...but that's not in Obama's plan.
Obama wants Israel to be at his mercy through Iran's possession of nuclear weapons.
Obama must know this scheme will cost many lives. Yet there is no indication Obama will stop the release of these photos.
'Evil' is an often overused word. But the chill I felt when I realized the horrendous potential of this plan can only be summed up by evil.
There is a reckless, cynical, linear progression to complete tyranny in the Obama administration.
NOLO PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
What Obama giveth with one hand he taketh away with both hands.
Speaking of Israel.....
June 12, 2009 - 13:11 ET by motherbeltThe Times Online has this today:
Netanyahu May Yield to Two-State Solution After Pressure From Obama
Makes it sound like The One has convinced him to give in, no?
If you read the article, it does mention that, but the whole thing is basically a "he could go this way or that way, he's being pressured from both sides, needs a middle ground" hypothetical.
But let's not let that get in the way of praising Obama's diplomatic skill. If Netanyahu finally gives in, it will have nothing to do with anything except the eloquence and charisma of the Dear Leader.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
→ Geronimo George
June 12, 2009 - 12:16 ET by Cool ArrowTo celebrate his 85th birthday, Bush 41 will jump out of a perfectly running airplane.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
At that age, one would hope
June 12, 2009 - 12:21 ET by KJ_sezAt that age, one would hope that his Secret Service agents will remind him to wear a parachute. Also, must be a privately-owned airplane - after having been on a military aircraft, "perfectly running" just doesn't sound right...
I think he tandem jumps.
June 12, 2009 - 12:52 ET by ricklailI think he tandem jumps. I don't believe he goes solo. Neverthless I never could figure out why someone would want to jump from a perfectly save airplane.
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Are they going to carpet the LZ with Secret Service agents...
June 12, 2009 - 15:55 ET by Tailgunner...so Bush'll have a soft landing if something goes wrong??
NOLO PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
What Obama giveth with one hand he taketh away with both hands.
Bush 41 will jump out of a 'perfectly running' airplane....
June 12, 2009 - 15:51 ET by Tailgunner...for a change....lol
NOLO PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
What Obama giveth with one hand he taketh away with both hands.
I knew this was coming
June 12, 2009 - 13:41 ET by ricklailI knew that Chairman Mao-bama was going to make Chevy curtail some of their involement in NASCAR. There are just too many rednecks like me that follow the sport. And many like to wave the Confederate battle flag. We are the people that he does not like after having listened to Wright for all those years.
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Tobacco Act a revenue Generator...
June 12, 2009 - 13:30 ET by retroconThis tobacco act will be a revenue generator for the government. Taxes on cigarettes are critical to some programs. So, how do you get people to buy more of a product wtih an addictive compound in it? Reduce the amount of addictive compound per unit. I'm sure that the tax per pack is not going to go down.
Yes, cut the nicotine in half, and addicted people (most of the last remaining smokers), will buy twice as much to get their fix.
It happen when they put filters on, went to "lites," etc.
retro... That is exactly
June 12, 2009 - 19:17 ET by bigtimerretro...
That is exactly what is going to happen.
Instead of outright outlawing cigarettes they are going to do exactly what you say they are.
$$$...control, control, control.
I've never seen anything like this..although a heck of a lot of us knew what has and is coming on down the road is maddening.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
i love a good cigar, every once in a while-
June 12, 2009 - 15:41 ET by JIMMY1660but to help the kids, i would support "all tobacco sales should be made illegal"-for the good of the kids. however, once we do that, those greedy DC elites should be jailed for spending such tax dollars and promoting the sales, to enrich the tax coffers. the DC elites did not care where the money came from, just put it into my sleazy hands/ they were as guilty as the Tobacco Companies.
BHO- THE PROGRESSIVE PIRATE
Ha! Take that!
June 12, 2009 - 19:03 ET by Chris NormanIt makes me want to take up every bad habit that the government goes after. Then, I realize that I'll be a chain smoking, scotch guzzling, heroin addicted, guy who's so fat that I'll have my own documentary on The Learning Channel. However, just to show them the stuff I'm made of, I will burn incandescent light bulbs with impunity...
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
After reading your plans
June 12, 2009 - 19:13 ET by FastEdI'm wondering if there is a down side - oh, and you forgot your egg covered, red meat, sugar slurping, large SUV, sunday driving and flat screen watching habits. {actually you could be a Mass. democrate ; ) }
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Ed, Thanks for taking
June 12, 2009 - 19:41 ET by Chris NormanEd,
Thanks for taking over - I was running out of bad habits off the top of my head. :)
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Unintended consequences
June 12, 2009 - 19:08 ET by FastEdAll that Barry does will come back to "surprise" him - and the blame will fall on everyone but him - he is certainly the new Teflon Dumb - nothing sticks, especially a personel history.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
So trolls don't like open threads or something?
June 12, 2009 - 19:10 ET by SickofLibsLemme throw out a bait:
"Hey, what's up with that sleazebag Palin?"
According to headline news
June 12, 2009 - 19:12 ET by bigtimerAccording to headline news on the radio, pajamhead has won again in Iran...surprise, surpise.
Wonder if O is going to take credit for this now, like he was inferring he wanted to earlier with his great. wonderous speech in Cairo...how those words, just words, would change things for the world...dontcha know.
What an arrogant fool he is...to put it nicely.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
BOH
June 12, 2009 - 19:33 ET by jaywlBOH is giving MZ Walsh of Salon fits at this time. Another segment coming up, tune now, its great.
Later: Don't know who saw it but this Walsh didn't give an inch. She didn't want to answer Bill's question about a fetus having any rights at all, but eventually said NO. Amazing that these people think it is all right for a viable human being to die because the mother did not want the child to be adopted!, or she couldn't go out, and further lame excuses this baby killer Tiller accepted as a legal basis for the murder. O'Reilly laid the foundation proving those reasons were used. Walsh wound up saying O'Reilly had blood on his hands and other rather stupid, irrational accusations. Pitiful people they are.
jay.... I can't wait for
June 12, 2009 - 19:47 ET by bigtimerjay....
I can't wait for this one, I can't watch that now, my husband is watching something else... but will be catching it in about two hours, you are giving me something to look forward to with BOR's show tonight.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
jay... Just watched the
June 12, 2009 - 22:25 ET by bigtimerjay...
Just watched the segment...one of the best I've seen for quite awhile.
Walsh has always been a witch, a real piece of work, BOR said she had blood on her hands more than once ...plus she threatened him, saying he would be sorry...
You do not know how my blood is boiling over this evil woman thinking late term abortions are okay for any reason, any time.
This is no real woman...none.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Soory
June 12, 2009 - 22:40 ET by jaywlI caught that "you'll be sorry" bit. I don't think I've ever heard that on a major show before. I kept wondering just what she meant.
Soros and ilk, control they
June 12, 2009 - 22:48 ET by bigtimerSoros and ilk, control they think they are going to have on down the line of the media/radio they do not like, plus the internet too.
It's coming if they have their way....been working on it for years...they only have so much time to do so...their claws have to get in now before the midterms....
Heck, they are already trying to outdo Chavez...and will if they can.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
I watched and wondered at
June 12, 2009 - 23:13 ET by BDI watched and wondered at what point Walsh would impute rights to the baby.
Does it have to be totally exterior to the mother and breathing on its own before she would impute rights?
Does it have to be able to feed itself?
Another thing I find objectionable is the extremely clinical use of the term "Fetus" to describe the baby even as it is in the process of being born.
35 Lbs on the block
June 12, 2009 - 19:22 ET by Dan DiegoStanley Cup, game 7 on NBC w/o Olbermann.
Uighers in Bermuda
June 12, 2009 - 19:49 ET by slickwillie2001The Doofus appears to have stepped in it again on the four Uighers being shipped to Bermuda. I can't figure out if this is just more of his hatred of the British coming out, or simple incompetence:
Obama Steps on Britain's Toes - Again: http://joshuapundit.blogspot.com
"The British Government responded with ill-disguised fury tonight to the news that four Chinese Uighurs freed from Guantanamo Bay had been flown for resettlement on the Atlantic tourist paradise of Bermuda."
So what will the British do with them? Turn them over to the Chinese? Bounce them back to Cuba? Give them one-way tickets to D.C. and put them on the plane?
sw... I heard about
June 12, 2009 - 20:05 ET by bigtimersw...
I heard about this...plus a few days ago, maybe yesterday, I can't keep up anymore, I heard Hillary made the blunder with this to begin with and the Brits were furious with her and the US for not consulting them at all first.
I haven't looked it up yet, but your post reminded me of this...although it was more than four when I heard it, it was something like 17...unless I have something messed up, which very well could be.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
As citizens of Bermuda no
June 12, 2009 - 20:24 ET by Dan DiegoAs citizens of Bermuda no visa is required for travel to U.S. Janet 2.0 probably won't put them on the no fly list, that would damage their self-esteem.
I am not much of a hockey
June 12, 2009 - 22:11 ET by ricklailI am not much of a hockey fan but I did watch the 3rd period of the Pens-Red Wing match. WOW. Congrats to the Pens. It was exciting. If I heard right the Pens are the first team since the 79 Pirates to win a game 7 on the road in any sport to win a championship. "Papa" was the MVP of the series.
The city of Pittsburgh can show off the Stanley Cup right next to the Vince Lobardi Throphy.
The city of Detroit had the Stanley Cup. But it will be until the 12ht of never before they can display the Lobardi.
Semper suprene nitens
Scratch my back with a
June 12, 2009 - 23:13 ET by Roger the ShrubberScratch my back with a hacksaw!
Let the couch burning begin! It's been 30 years, but the Burgh is the City of Champions again! And the Most Liveable City, too! How will this shrubber sleep tonight?
Geeeeeeno!
Great series
June 13, 2009 - 08:00 ET by UphillRubber match next year?
Awesome
June 13, 2009 - 08:41 ET by Roger the ShrubberJust as long as Hossa stays in Detroit :)
What an amazing series, against an amazing Red Wing team. With all the talent on both teams, I would ont be suprised if they meet again in the finals!
Hossa doesn't have to go to Pittsburgh...
June 13, 2009 - 17:57 ET by Uphill...just as long as he leaves Detroit. My ten year old son didn't like him when he first joined the Red Wings and I was telling him what a great addition Hossa was going to be. I WAS WRONG!
And now....
GO CUBS!
Oh Ho...this is Rich!
June 13, 2009 - 09:13 ET by BlondeCastro's son scammed on the internet (buy a Miami guy pretending to be a Columbian chica), the details of the story (failure of state security, etc.) are pretty delicious for those of us who are awaiting Cuba Libre.
I hope he fails, too.
Apple Blackberry Romance Soured
June 13, 2009 - 17:59 ET by stratmanHilarious!
A classic example of why love on the Internuts is generally unwise.
Outlaw Cigarettes and Impeach Obama
June 13, 2009 - 19:30 ET by BlueCat57I'm all for making cigarettes illegal. Then we can impeach Obama when that nicotene addict buys cigarettes illegally. Nation saved.