Open Thread

By NB Staff (Bio | Archive)
June 9, 2009 - 09:26 ET

For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: a year without a summer?

According to Long Range Expert Joe Bastardi, areas from the northern Plains into the Northeast will have a "year without a summer."

If this happens, will the global warming myth be so exposed that media will finally have to realize how they've been played by Gore and his ilk? Will this end the Democrats' dreams of taxing carbon dioxide? Or will it take more years of cooling temperatures for the alarmists to give up?

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Today is sort of an

June 9, 2009 - 09:34 ET by ricklail

Today is sort of an anniversary for me. 40 years ago today I began basic training at Ft. Jackson. I just 17 years old, I would not turn 18 for 3 more days. A lot of people had told me it was going to be 8 weeks of living hell. It didn’t turn out to be that bad even though at times I would question what I was thinking when I signed up. I would not trade those experiences for all the “tea in China.” I can’t say it made a man out of me but I wasn’t smart assy to my parents any more. If you are having problems with your teenager suggest they join the military.

Semper suprene nitens

LESSONS LEARNED??

June 9, 2009 - 11:15 ET by reelman46

COURIC-LING-LEE = LIBERAL LESSONS

The modern liberals are so convinced of at least two things…they are super smart and you need not question them…ever.
Picking but one day in the news, June 9.2009, offers us reality. The enemy of every liberal is reality.
First, we have the perky affirmative action gal, the “historic” Katie
Couric…you know, the snooty ultra biased news anchor we all deserve to
fawn over nightly. The natural PC choice.
The result of her “intentions” to educate the dim bulb population?
Her ratings slowly sank and sank and sank…and now are at the lowest point in CBS history.

Will this teach the biased libs at CBS anything?
Where will the blame be shifted?
How will this be explained? Stay tuned.

Then we have two reporters from an AlGore company being charged and
sentenced by North Korea to 12 years hard labor. The NK camps have a
long history of real torture and many of the sentenced do not live near
12 years. This is the same country, when labeled part of the “axis of
evil”, shocked the liberal sensitivity. Only America can be evil in the
liberal mind. The sneering liberal media mocked the president who
called North Korea “evil”.

Will this teach the modern liberals anything about evil in the modern world?
Where will the blame be shifted?
How will it be excused? Stay tuned.

Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)

Hi Rick,

June 9, 2009 - 12:34 ET by pahuber

I joined the USN in Jan. of '86. I signed up for 6 years and wondered throughout all of basic and tech school what I had done! I finally got used to it during my first assignment in Japan. I loved those days now and would not trade them for anything either :)

take care.

For those interested, registration @ HotAir is open!

June 9, 2009 - 09:37 ET by R D Helm

http://hotair.com/ar...

Better hurry, as they only open it every several months.

LOL-I love registration day at HotAir. It's fun watching all those trolls getting popped. :-)

-Dave

Obama's health care "reform" plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof-Herman Cain

Hotair.

June 9, 2009 - 09:40 ET by shawn228

Isn't that very informative former NB poster Popular Tech over there? ;-)

He had my vote

shawn,

June 9, 2009 - 10:03 ET by R D Helm

I haven't seen him over there lately, but there haven't been many Palin threads, either.

LOL-Maybe they finally blew him out. He was every bit as annoying over there as he was here.

-Dave

Obama's health care "reform" plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof-Herman Cain

Stewart skewers Fox morning show.

June 9, 2009 - 09:44 ET by balboa

That liberal elitist, snooty, name-changing "comedian" Jon Stewart is at it again. The nerve...

http://gawker.com/5284160/daily-show-exposes-fox--friends-hypocrisy-over-its-brunoeminem-outrage

Bal, I am disappointed in

June 9, 2009 - 11:09 ET by Roger the Shrubber

Bal, I am disappointed in you.

Your babe turns 28, and no mention?

Or are you more exicted that this guy turns 46 today?

I'm celebrating my future

June 9, 2009 - 13:00 ET by balboa

I'm celebrating my future wife's birthday privately this year. :-)

Lucky

June 9, 2009 - 13:17 ET by Roger the Shrubber

Lucky bastard...

Another inflatable on the horizon?

June 9, 2009 - 18:32 ET by pahuber

: )

Check my sig, bal... you

June 9, 2009 - 23:26 ET by Lord Elicani

Check my sig, bal... you aren't her only fan on this site.

"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."

Padmé Amidala, Revenge of the Sith

"If this happens, will the

June 9, 2009 - 09:46 ET by R D Helm

"If this happens, will the global warming myth be so exposed that media will finally have to realize how they've been played by Gore and his
ilk?"

They know that already, but "climate change" isn't why the SCM is pushing this fraudulent nonsense in the first place.

"Will this end the Democrats' dreams of taxing carbon dioxide?"

Not in a gazillion years.

"Or
will it take more years of cooling temperatures for the alarmists to
give up?"

They will never give up completely, because 2/3 of those involved are not motivated by environmental concerns.

My guess is, they will also begin searching for another man-made "catastrophe" cause to get behind as an excuse to trample our freedoms and liberties into the ground.

-Dave

Obama's health care "reform" plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof-Herman Cain

Agreed

June 9, 2009 - 09:54 ET by BKeyser

The focus will shift even further toward "Climate CHANGE" in lieu of "Global Warming" and if the temps continue to go south (no pun intended) another Ice Age scare will emerge like during the 70's.

So, I agree with you Dave, this is not likely to pursuade the bullsh**ters since "protecting the Earth" is, and never has been, the objective. Besides, it's become a business too large to fail...

On thing that has confused me since the '08 campaign got into full swing though... isn't "change" a good thing?

Speaking of climate change,

June 9, 2009 - 17:05 ET by BD

Speaking of climate change, the past week here in Arizona it has been cloudy and a mild 80 degrees. They expect monsoon to begin two weeks early which will further drop the temperatures and drop needed moisture.

Temperatures so far this summer have been very low and I cannot recall a day it approached 100 degrees.

If this is global warming - BRING IT ON!

A Chorus Of Cuckoos

June 9, 2009 - 09:48 ET by dbo

Will this end the Democrats' dreams of taxing carbon dioxide?

I'm sure in the short term a bad summer in the NE will make it harder to pass any form of carbon tax or cap and trade but get ready for the usual suspects to start shouting "You idiots, bad summer weather is proof of global warming".

Give Up?

June 9, 2009 - 09:52 ET by Blonde

I doubt it. They'd (democrats) tax sex if they could get away with it.

It was interesting, in Costa Rica I found most of the ex-pats thought Global Warming was hooey, while almost all of the tourist attractions (you can't imagine how many zip-line forest rides there are there....that's gotta be good for the forest, yup!) were advertising how "green" they are. Green sells as a marketing strategy, and that won't change any time soon.

Which brings me to my point (finally(!), I know). I believe it's time to pull the old bait and switch on the Warmers. Take away their depiction of us skeptics as wasteful, greedy, consumption crazy pigs. Co-opt their green message, and own the "conservation" point of view. I know many of us here are ardent outdoorsmen and women....we're all for using our natural resources....wisely, so that they are there in better shape than we found them for our children and grandchildren. This may mean really advocating for things like "no take" reefs and wildlife conservation areas, but overall that improves the opportunities everwhere.

It's time to shout from the rafters at them "the debate is over, you lost, and here's what the grown ups are going to do to make this a better place for everyone. The result of OUR way is raising the standard of living instead of having humans live like neanderthals, as you would have it, silly, discredited Warmers".

I hope he fails, too.

"IF" it hppens?

June 9, 2009 - 09:52 ET by CobraMan

"If this happens, will the global warming myth be so exposed that media will finally have to realize how they've been played by Gore and his ilk?"

What do you mean "if?" It's been so unusually cold here in Minnesota that I had to turn my furnace back on! Running a furnace in June? I don't ever remember having to do that before, not even during the Global Cooling of the 1970's!

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

I've got my furnace on too

June 9, 2009 - 11:01 ET by ThisnThat

I've got my furnace on too (in New England). Usually I have the window air conditioners in by now; this year, though, I haven't even put the screen doors in. I could use some old-fashioned global warming by now. On the other hand, the grass has never been fuller, greener. Just like Old England.

___________________________________

Liberals constantly demand that we accept a glaring falsehood as truth; Obama's elimination of the word "terror" will make terrorist acts less terrifying

No summer No food

June 9, 2009 - 10:04 ET by upcountrywater

Invest in green houses, No I meant Hot houses...Once upon a time they were called green houses...

No matter how cold it gets, we will all pay for "crap and take"; carbon taxes... and for good measure slap on a VAT tax too..

Misery index getting ready to jump up.

Reagan VS Carter and 0bama

They will never give up

June 9, 2009 - 10:12 ET by Paul Atreides

When it snows, it's global warming.

When it rains, it's global warming.

When it is a hot summer, it's global warming.

When it is a mild summer, it's global warming.

It is already hitting the 90s here in Alabama.

Paul

June 9, 2009 - 10:38 ET by ricklail

It is knocking on the door around 90 here in eastern NC if you are back from the coast a bit.

You forgot that when we have hurricanes it is because of global warming. The lack of hurricanes is because of global warming.

Semper suprene nitens

Have you ever noticed that

June 9, 2009 - 10:41 ET by Paul Atreides

every time Albore gives a speech, some strange weather pattern takes place?

Bastardi and Dyson

June 9, 2009 - 10:16 ET by slickwillie2001

In the Accuweather article, note how the most interesting item is not hinted at in the title, and is downplayed, to the sixth paragraph: "According to Long Range Expert Joe Bastardi, areas from the northern Plains into the Northeast will have a "year without a summer.""

When reading that you kind of back up and say, whoa!

In other 'global warming' news, the Freeman Dyson story is illuminating. He is a Princeton physicist highly respected by the liberals to date, but has come out as a non-believer:

"Basically, he doesn’t buy it. The climate models used to forecast what will happen as we continue to pump CO2 into the atmosphere are unreliable, Dyson claims, and so, therefore, are the projections. In an interview with Yale Environment 360, his first since the Times article appeared, Dyson contends that since carbon dioxide is good for plants, a warmer planet could be a very good thing. And if CO2 does get to be a problem, Dyson believes we can just do some genetic engineering to create a new species of super-tree that can suck up the excess." (Reference)

In reaction, the Warmist are attacking Dyson as you would expect, concluding suggesting that maybe he has gone senile or is 'over the hill'. Sad how readily they will throw someone under the bus and attack ad hominem.

As a sci-fi writer/reader,

June 9, 2009 - 10:56 ET by Lord Elicani

As a sci-fi writer/reader, I know him from the Dyson sphere.

Him 'going senile' would be about as likely as MSNBC giving Rush Limbaugh a show.

That being said, it's a shame Richard Feynman died 20 some odd years ago. He had genius, and a wit to match. I have a feeling he would be standing with Dyson.

"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."

Padmé Amidala, Revenge of the Sith

No Joke

June 9, 2009 - 10:36 ET by RR GOP

Folks used to kid around and say stuff like, "What's the government going to tax next? The air we breathe? Ho ho ho."

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).

RR,

June 9, 2009 - 10:45 ET by R D Helm

"...The air we breathe? Ho ho ho."

That wouldn't surprise me in the least.

-Dave

Obama's health care "reform" plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof-Herman Cain

ACORN Mission Creep

June 9, 2009 - 11:12 ET by slickwillie2001

A couple of highly disturbing stories involving the ACORN Crime Syndicate:

ACORN Enters the Highly Lucrative Global Warming Hysteria Business: http://spectator.org

"Brian Kettenring, ACORN's deputy director of national operations, said his group - the largest grassroots community organization of low- and moderate- income people in the United States - was inspired to join the Climate Equity Alliance and work with groups such as the Sierra Club after seeing the vulnerability of cities such as New Orleans to rising sea levels and more intense climatic events."

Obama and ACORN Officials: Setting Sights on Gun Owners?: http://www.familysecuritymatters.org

""ACORN has, since 1998, received an estimated $31 million in government funding," said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb. "Now they have intervened in a New Jersey gun rights case in defense of an illegal Jersey City one-gun-a-month ordinance that violates the state preemption statute.""

This tells us that ACORN has made a discrete decision to leave their traditional areas and move into other issues, and it also tells us that they are flush with cash to do so, both troubling developments. And again, mostly funded by your tax money.

Long term, I see ACORN evolving into the Bamster's civilian corps, Brownshirts, Internal Affairs, etc. They will become civil servants, be un-fireable, and get huge boosts in salary and benefits.

"Long term, I see ACORN

June 9, 2009 - 11:37 ET by NL207

"Long term, I see ACORN evolving into the Bamster's civilian corps"

These are Obama's shock troops. This is exactly where they are headed: Leninist Redshirts, Brownshirts of a different color.

AG Holder's recent refusal to prosecute the New Black Panther Party, who I believe are an ACORN affiliate, for election intimidation in Philadelphia is an ominous portent.

Rep. Bachman, (R), MN is sponsoring a bill that would cut off all federal money to organizations like ACORN. This is probabaly bad legislation, because it is unenforceable, but at the very least, the Congress can cut off the money pipe into ACORN and should do so.

ACORN

June 9, 2009 - 11:54 ET by Agnostic

Either that or the civilian corps will be the training ground for ACORN which will morph into a regulatory arm of the government.

A person may be won over with logic and reason but the masses must be bought with spectacle and platitudes. - 2008 Elections

CBS News ratings-INTHE TANK

June 9, 2009 - 11:14 ET by obageegee

Can't help myself. Katie will be doing QVC soon

NBC 7,960,000
ABC 7,150,000
CBS 5,180,000*

*Lowest Total Viewer delivery since NIELSEN records kept

Not sure if anyone mentioned this but

June 9, 2009 - 11:32 ET by jcrapes4

Not sure if anyone mentioned this but its Hurricane season. This time in years past the media was inudated with several stories on hurricane predictions etc. Now Obama is in office and I have yet to see one story about Hurricane season in the MSM/State Run Media. Has anyone seen any national news stories about hurricanes?

Jay

Totally Different

June 9, 2009 - 11:34 ET by Blonde

Since it's the OT, here's a treat....I know what a bunch of foodies my fellow NB'ers are. These pictures are delicious...h/t Noel. :)

Funny Food Carvings

I hope he fails, too.

In Paris, after OBAMA ENTOURAGE there, PICASSO Sketchbook missin

June 9, 2009 - 12:22 ET by PawpawN

I find it very ironic that a PICASSO SKETCHBOOK is now missing in PARIS after the OBAMA ENTOURAGE was just there!! Is it just me or does anyone else think we should check their socks, shoes, pants, etc!! PawpawN

Moonbat Alert

June 9, 2009 - 14:24 ET by slickwillie2001

Cindy Sheehan leading protest near President George W. Bush's Dallas home. No, you haven't slipped into a time warp. Does she know he's no longer our President?

Cindy Sheehan Leads Protest Near Bush's New Home: http://www.weaselzippers.net

Or, maybe she just enjoys getting manhandled.

You've go to be kidding me...

June 9, 2009 - 14:42 ET by bigtimer

Somebody really needs to tell this dumb blond her 15 minutes of fame have long since passed.

What a twit.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Hey everyone has to have a

June 9, 2009 - 19:53 ET by Dan The Man 2

Hey everyone has to have a purpose in life, and her's is to be irrellevant.

Proof

June 9, 2009 - 15:01 ET by jaywl

This is more proof that the previous couple of years have been really, really warm, almost hot! How else could 2009 be cooler? You Humanoanthropoltergisterclimachanger deniers might as well give up and get the latest techie toy, the beanie cap with propeller powering a ear-bud cell phone.

→ Couric in the crapper

June 9, 2009 - 15:26 ET by Cool Arrow

CBS - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

Drudge runs banner headline proclaiming Katie Couric's dismal ratings and NewsBusters doesn't even carry it.

I'm taking this opportunity to congratulate NB for realizing Katie has become less than worthy of attention.

She's not worth a warm bucket of sputum.

"The Rule of Law is the only thing that separates us from Democrats" - a Firefighter

→ Glenn Beck

June 9, 2009 - 17:00 ET by Cool Arrow

Did anybody watch Glenn Beck?

Gretchen Carlson's parents (GM Dealership) had their franchise revoked under the Obama Redistribution Executive Order. (OREO)

OK, I made up the name of the Order, but Carlson's parents were allegedly making 103% of their annual goal.

This is politics!

"The Rule of Law is the only thing that separates us from Democrats" - a Firefighter

Darn Cool... I missed the

June 9, 2009 - 17:08 ET by bigtimer

Darn Cool...

I missed the first half or so of his show, I was listening to the Senate for a bit over Sotomayor...and there is so much that she did not submit, Sessions had a good speech with facts, wish I had caught all of it, then they went to a vote on the Tabacco Bill, an amendment that was defeated...I'll have to try to catch it later...caught some of his last half though, glad you filled me in on the info I missed.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart