For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: if we don't pass porkulus, we're doomed forever?
President Barack Obama warned on Thursday that failure to act on an economic recovery package could plunge the nation into a long-lasting recession that might prove irreversible, a fresh call to a recalcitrant Congress to move quickly.
Wait a minute: I thought we already are in the worst recession since World War II, and we need porkulus to get us out of it? Now it appears we need government to PREVENT US from going into a serious recession? Why the change in tack? Beyond this, we might NEVER come OUT of this recession unless government borrows trillions of dollars it doesn't have to inefficiently spend it now? If this is a cure for financial woes, why don't struggling Americans do the same thing?
With polls showing Americans losing interest in porkulus, will Obama's fearmongering work?
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Irreversible...kind of like
February 5, 2009 - 10:46 ET by taterIrreversible...kind of like we need to do something about global warming or it will become irreversible.
I think we have a new word that the liberals have tainted forever.
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Irreversible --> Inconceivable
February 5, 2009 - 10:58 ET by LionKingRegarding irreversible,...
Vizzini: "He didn't fall?!? Inconceivable!"
Inigo Montoya: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
Obama is trying to sell a sitmulus bill no one is buying
February 5, 2009 - 10:47 ET by lareeImus had his brother Fred Imus on this morning, who used to like Obama, he has
some problems with the New President including this stimulus bill.
http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/02/fred-imus-proves-radio-is-still.html
Obama is trying to sell a sitmulus bill no one is buying
February 5, 2009 - 10:48 ET by lareeImus had his brother Fred Imus on this morning, who used to like Obama, he has
some problems with the New President including this stimulus bill.
http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/02/fred-imus-proves-radio-is-still.html
The Cardinal Returns Tomorrow
February 5, 2009 - 14:26 ET by lareeThe Cardinal is returning tomorrow 77WABC/RFD TV. Imus said, he already
proved his point by being on air over a year. Newsbusters Are you going to cover
the return of the Cardinal? The Cardinal persona was considered to controversial by many before Imus was fired in April 2007. The New Program Director says it's time to bump it up.
http://imustimes.wordpress.com/2009/02/05/imus-cardinal-to-return/
Porkulus...
February 5, 2009 - 10:52 ET by LionKing"...doomed forever?"
Not very presidential to resort to hyperbole
In fact
February 5, 2009 - 11:09 ET by StarAZIf I were back on the Hill or in the White House, I would cross the words doom and doomed out the Little Red Book of Extreme Intelligence from Obama.
Well, That One, you have
February 5, 2009 - 10:53 ET by fitzfongWell, That One, you have the votes to pass your crap bill already. Why don't you just get on with it instead of trying to scare people into supporting it? Not so sure it's the right thing to do, are you? You want Republicans to have to share responsibility for the disaster it's going to be so that you and your hoods in Congress can manage to get reelected. Coward.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
It is comical at how he is
February 5, 2009 - 11:23 ET by jistincaseIt is comical at how he is trying his hardest to get this shoved through. He knows that he has to rely on the fear factor to do this now or the sheeple will finally wake up and see this for what it is, a shameful Neo-Marxist wish list. I say from now on the we refer to all liberals and Democrats as Neo-Marxists from now on. They put the Neo-Con lable on Bush and the Republicans, lets see how they like the lable on them. Can't wait to see the next temper tantrum the Marxist in chief throws today when it still hasn't passed. I have emailed every Republican senator asking them to filibuster this until it is either dead or they start from scratch with something that will actually help the country.
I say the conservative media
February 5, 2009 - 10:56 ET by QueenMumI say the conservative media needs to continue hammer to Pres. Obama on his fear-mongering and inability to defend his rhetoric in the face of economic realities. When Pres. Bush talked about the dangers we face from Islamic terrorism, the libs cried "fear-mongering". Now when our Dear Leader can't seem to make up his mind about the country's economy, the MsM is willing to give him plenty of time to make a course correction. I guess it's more important to be thoughtful than decisive.
I can't get Owl Gore
February 5, 2009 - 11:22 ET by ricklailI can't get Owl Gore screaming "HE PLAYED ON OUR FEARS" out of my head
Ricky Joe the Plumber
Owl Gore
February 5, 2009 - 11:24 ET by Sergeant ROCK"HE PLAYED ON OUR FEARS.....HOOT! HOOT!"
Of course, that's contrary to what Obama's doing.
Bolton/KEYES 2012
Ah the memories
February 5, 2009 - 14:34 ET by LionKing"Give a hoot, don't pollute!"
Didn't people rightlfully object to the kneejerk way
February 5, 2009 - 11:02 ET by katiejanePaulsen and co shoved thru the TARP program? Weren't we told " the world will end if we don't do this immediately?" And now people are complaining because that was put in place with little planning and oversight? But because Obama wants his porkfilled package we're supposed to go along with crisis management AGAIN?
Hog farms more of threat than Osama?
February 5, 2009 - 11:04 ET by ricklailOff topic but I wanted to share this with you.
This I thought to be a local issue. There are more hogs east of I-95 here in NC than people. Robert Kennedy Jr. was here several weeks ago to blast us on this. Our own USA4Freedom has lambasted his visit in our local paper. (Read here.) He has taken a lot of bs but he with stood it.
Yesterday RFK Jr. testified before Congress on the issue. Read this. I like the part about him having to do 800 hours of community service for heroin possession. The drugs have fried his brain.
He wanted undue speed
February 5, 2009 - 11:10 ET by StarAZThe Onester gave us the bum's rush at first (have it on my desk when I show up) so no one would look at it very carefully. Ooops. So now, it's the falling sky again. At more than a trill, this thing pretty much subsumes future options...What if this China moolah just drifts into the maw and nothing changes? Then what? I don't WANT to cross that bridge when we come to it--I want to hear some explanation from one of his giant heads over there of what will happen when the credit default swaps are called in or China runs out of money. People do NOT understand basic civics--they think if we don't get National Endowment for the Arts money in this mess, we won't get it (what about the regular auth/approp cycle for the agencies--remember that?). This is not the last train out of the er, Amtrak, station. They are playing on people's ignorance or lack of experience with all this--and their very real fears. Can you believe that Hyundai commercial--if you lose your income, you can bring the car back? Where are we? Come on! This guy is no leader--he is leading squat here.
I think that
February 5, 2009 - 11:07 ET by RD Kingporkulus will do just the opposite and create a failing job market and economy for at least a decade or more. The real shame of this is that the economy that obama, acorn and the CRA has already created has put me out of work since May 2006, drained my life savings and destroyed my retirement account. So even if the recovery would come as early as next year he has already destroyed any plans I might have had for retirement in the next few years. If he is allowed to spin us from his recession into his depression then I'll never have the chance to recoup my losses. I know I’m not alone in this there are millions out there in the same boat I am and some even worse off, but the main point is that we have worked hard all of our lives and earned what we have and now we need work/jobs not welfare, increased taxes and more job losses. obama should be in prison not using federal force to steal from anyone and everyone he can find that has a dime just to pay back and give it to his lowlife friends and voters.
→ It's a TWISTER I tell 'ya
February 5, 2009 - 11:07 ET by Cool ArrowA catastrophe.
Call in Jan-MichaelVincent and Earnest Borgnine.
I'll bet those guys could save the economy.
Earnest Borgnine
February 5, 2009 - 11:18 ET by ricklailRobert Osborne of TCM had an hour interview with Earnest Borgnine on the other week. I don't know when the interview was don't but I don't recall any mention of Air Wolf. They did talk about McHale's Navy. He must have wanted to forget Air Wolf.
Ricky Joe the Plumber
→ Easy to understand rick
February 5, 2009 - 11:21 ET by Cool ArrowOther stinkers of same period
MacGyver
February 5, 2009 - 14:17 ET by MrDavisonHand the economy over to MacGyver. A paper clip, rubber band, a match and a bit of lint should be all he needs!
Failue to Act - Word play
February 5, 2009 - 11:08 ET by Sergeant ROCKThis is a diversion from what a piece of crap this bill is. If you need to 'act', why not suspend all taxes for a few months?
Bolton/KEYES 2012
Agreed! Pass it on your own Obama/Pelosi
February 5, 2009 - 11:15 ET by BensonYou have the votes.
It takes a mess to fix a mess. So let them mess the economy up even more. I surely hope the Republicans don't give this bill any 'bipartisan cover' by voting for it. The shame is- the media will call the vote bipartisan even if 1 moderate defects.
A year from now this bill will be identified as one of the worse acts of governemnt ever done- at least since the New Deal. The democrats won't be elected for decades. Lets hope the next republican administration can show the fiscal restraint that Bush refused to endorse.
Loss for words...almost
February 5, 2009 - 11:16 ET by klchadwickWhen it comes to the Great Spending Bill of '09, I am almost at a loss for words. Actually, I am at a loss for finding logic in the actions proposed by the Dynamic Trio (Obama, Pelosi, Reid) aka, the Three Stooges.
I was at a lecture yesterday given by the head of the Department of Economics of Florida State University. He stated that if an increase in government spending was the correct solution to bring about the end of the recession, why are we even in a recession in the first place? After all, like him or not, disagree with him or not, but Bush and the Republicans did in fact increase government spending over the last 8 years...of course they cut taxes as well, but we still ended up in a slump.
The question that has me chomping at the bit is this: Even though we may not agree with Obama's ideas, stances and philosophies, the man is surely not stupid. Also, I am almost equally sure that he economic advisor are not below the 100 mark on the IQ range. Taking these into account, why is it that even hough it has been proven time and time again (and even laid out in nice and easy terms in Milton Friedman's essay from 2000 http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2009/02/01/debunking-myth-government-spending-stimulates-economy ) do these people think that pumping money into the system is going to somehow miraculously bring an end to this economic downturn?
Why do they insist that overloading the system with cash is going to bring an end to these problems when surely they know that this action will bring about problems of it's own. Namely inflation, to much money chasing too few goods and services. And won't this bring about it's own recession?
The way that I'm seeing this is:
1) Pump more money into the system through the government at the cost of tax payers
2) When the recession nds in life cycle in a natural fashion, credit Obama and his wonderful "stimulus plan".
3) When said recession ends, use the crisis of inflation, debt and defecit to scare the population and thereby justify raising taxes.
4) Obama runs for re-election as he guy that ended the recession, fixed inflation AND magically erased debt and defecit.
5) In the end, the government wons the banks, owns the auto industry, funs the financial sector, determines how much money one can make AND taxes success. Oh and also tells us when we can and cant make profits.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here!!!!!
re: Natural end to the recession
February 5, 2009 - 11:19 ET by BensonIt will not occur within the next two years if this bill passes. It will only stretch this crisis out longer making this bill almost as big a political mistake as it is an economic mistake.
*whew* ... what a relief!
February 5, 2009 - 11:16 ET by i was just thinkingDon't know about you, but I'm certainly glad we're past the days of fear-mongering that were the hallmark of the Bush years!
Guess now that the War on Terror is over it's time for the War on Capitalism. (Except for the fact that the WOC has been fought... and lost already!)
I think I'm through being sarcastic for today.
Here's a Great Story Idea
February 5, 2009 - 11:18 ET by CaringwhiteguyHere's a great story idea for some enterprising MSM'er. Or, if it's not a story idea it's at least worthy of a question.
Let's see how Harry Reid's (D-NV) constituents, the hard working members of the hospitality unions that bankroll him, like the idea of Wells Fargo being strong-armed into not holding a big event for it's employees in Las Vegas.
Who among them has the "cajones" (see Mark Finkelstein on Norah O'Donnell 1/21/09) to research the story or ask Reid the question?
This bill is...
February 5, 2009 - 11:20 ET by AgentAmerican...is an extortion racket. Chicago tactics appear to have no effect whatsoever on the public. And the emperor simply has no clothes.
Fear tactics are all he has and the media will follow his lead of that cliff like the lemmings they are...but no one is buying it.
Obama is falling like a lead balloon.
2010: A GOP Hill
The economy is based on
February 5, 2009 - 11:27 ET by bradbenj5952The economy is based on people having money to purchase goods and services as well as companies having capital to provide the goods and services that generate cash flow which in turn creates jobs. So if you simply just cut all tax rates in half then both citizens and companies will have more money to grow the economy. Simple. What this formula does not do is provide O & Co. with cash to buy votes. What a disgusting state for our nation to be in.
I hope Americans will NOT be suckered into this. But, alas, I fear that is a feeble hope because it was Americans that were suckered into voting this guy in office in the first place.
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31
O's fear-mongering isn't
February 5, 2009 - 11:31 ET by bigtimerO's fear-mongering isn't working according to the polls, that is the exact reason Reid says this bill will be done by tonight if possible, less than a week on a 1.3 trillion dollar bill (with interest) for that very reason, the American people are hearing what crap is in this bill, they also know that we are paying for this and will for years to come, the repubs had better get their message out every chance they get loud and clear regarding all this BS...because if this happens and it goes to conference, we can kiss our capitalist butts good-bye with what all they will get put into this bill and we can't stop it, neither can the repubs, although they do have to pass it one more time once this is done, so we shall see what all happens, very soon.
O is having a national fire-side type of chat with all of us peons Monday night according to Drudge...so he is working arm in arm with Reid, Pelosi and some RINOs to be so arrogantly sure this is a done deal to have this happen on Monday night.
BT - did you see Lindsey Grahm on FNC just now?
February 5, 2009 - 11:49 ET by Dee BunkHe was great - really angry - Said that having lunch and doing TV interviews isn't bi-partisan and that Obama needs to get people together actually working and listening to each other like Reagan did. He said Republicans have been completely left out of the process. It was good.
I also heard on FNC that there are 12 Dems and 5 Reps that are coming together. I'm sure the 5 are proably the ones I mentioned yesterday (trading Gregg for his replacement). I hope people are calling!
Hey Dee.... I just got
February 5, 2009 - 12:00 ET by bigtimerHey Dee....
I just got done listening to him on the Senate floor, he shut Boxer the hell up!
I couldn't believe it...not little Lindsey!
The phone calls must be working, please all, keep those phones going to all you can think need to hear from us.
I called Tester, didn't bother with Baucus, not worth the call, he is a useless POS, Tester is getting to be too, he has completely toed the dem mark anymore, I can't stand him, my husband thought he may just possibly be good for Mt. ....not hardly!
I'm also going to be calling Hatch and McConnell later, plus a few others, but some of the candidates up for reelection need a few reminders too, no matter the party.
Waste
February 5, 2009 - 12:30 ET by ricklailI may just have wasted 5 minutes of my life sending an e-mail to our Democrat senator, Kay Hagan asking her to oppose the stimulus package. No matter how much pressure is brought on her she'll vote with Dingy Harry because she is new.
Ricky Joe the Plumber
This statement illustrates
February 5, 2009 - 11:36 ET by robert108This statement illustrates that our Kenyan Marxist President just doesn't understand the fundamentals of our economic system. No surprise.
Did someone say, "National Emergency" ?
February 5, 2009 - 12:03 ET by MikeLIFor all of his speeches on the subject, we have yet to hear, in a sincere way, from our President, that we are in a GENUINE National Emergency.
He's been talking, in various forums about this, the proof is all around us, everywhere, but where are the actual, SINCERE words from our President ?
The socalled Stimulus Bill, presented originally by the House, is a Politician's, veritble, "laundry list" of postponed Clinton Era, Democratic entitlements, wrapped tightly in lots of sweety fructose, to make it palatable to consume, but we don't seem to want to take it.
We are assaulted in the Media, every day, with evidence of our country's, and the World's, economic decline, so we know it's raining, but we don't seem to "get it".
It's not that we don't "get it", it's that our Leaders don't get it.
They are letting us down. And this crosses "party lines".
Congress isn't only, suffering from, what some say, is a "20% approval rating". It's suffering from a paralysis of Denial, that's slowly eating away at our country's moral tissue, and morale.
Until such a time, one among them, rises up, and captivates our GENUINE need for repair, we are going to be a rudder-less boat, going in circles.
"....that we are in a
February 5, 2009 - 12:10 ET by celator"....that we are in a GENUINE National Emergency."
I've been watching for that one too. If he does declare it, he can then implement Presidential Directive 51 (signed last year), and suspend all Constitutional safeguards and declare Martial Law on the citizens of the United States.
Would Obama sink that low to implement his socialist agenda? Of course he would.
For liberal Democrats and the Old Media, everything is crisis, chaos, calamity and catastrophe. That justifies stealing your property and liberties.
Obama is selling snake
February 5, 2009 - 11:49 ET by celatorObama is selling snake oil.
"This stimulus bill will make you feel younger, stronger, smarter. If you don't pass it, the End Times are upon us, my brothers and sisters, oh yes. Pass it now and you will become prosperous, have more friends and never be lonely again. Money will fall upon you like snow flakes from the sky. You might even find true love! Oh, yes, my friends, never mind all that small print, this is for your own good. Have I ever lied to you? Now sign right here."
For liberal Democrats and the Old Media, everything is crisis, chaos, calamity and catastrophe. That justifies stealing your property and liberties.
If Obama really believes Porkzilla is going to fix the economy..
February 5, 2009 - 12:00 ET by R D Helm...then he is an economic illiterate, and not a little dangerous.
This man is beginning to really concern me. More than before, I mean.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
This bill will do very
February 5, 2009 - 12:02 ET by bassndudeThis bill will do very little in the way of stimulus. The infrastructure they speak of is roads and bridges. It takes 6 to 8 years to spend the money to build one. No quick fix there. The tax cuts they are talking about will not have much effect in 09, but might stimulate some in 2010, depending on the economy.Less than 100 billion will reach the public in 2010. With 300 million people, "that aint much stimulating." If people save it, it will do nada. His Energy Efficiency Retrofitting and Environmental Spending is a joke. Most of that money will be spent in 2 years. The economy will still be on the rocks. The business tax cut will work untill 2010, when it goes back up. Businesses will keep that money in the bank. It will not be used for expansion. Most of the stimulus goes to the programs for the unemployed in bennies, and an increase in food stamps and health care programs for the poor. As far a creating jobs? No. Not one new job. Creating a population dependent on goverment hand outs? Yep. A lot of that.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
You need to pass this along
February 5, 2009 - 12:16 ET by ricklailYou need to pass this along to those Republican governors, all governors for that fact, that keep screaming about the porkulus package. They think this money is going to fix things right now. As you said it takes time to design and build new roads and bridges.
Ricky Joe the Plumber
→ Dambit
February 5, 2009 - 12:14 ET by Cool ArrowThe market is up 118 points and Obamboo is about to speak.
Watch your gains turn to sh*t in 20 minutes.
→ Catastrophe
February 5, 2009 - 12:17 ET by Cool ArrowThere's the "C" word.
Obamboo is mad
Ha, CA...GMTA
February 5, 2009 - 12:18 ET by BlondeHe looks evil when he's mad, huh?
The president looks....like
February 5, 2009 - 12:50 ET by semolina_filcherA spoiled man-child of a brat if you ask me....
That about covers it
February 5, 2009 - 12:58 ET by BlondeUnfortunately, the brat is at the helm of this ship of state.
It's going to get very, very ugly.
→ Gimme money
February 5, 2009 - 12:19 ET by Cool ArrowTax cuts don't work blah blah blah
Put America to work doing what needs to be done
Digitizing your health records
Oh Boy, here we go again! Porkalicious
February 5, 2009 - 12:18 ET by BlondeObama starts yakkin'....Dow at 8077.
"Time for Talk is Over".
Scare tactics here we come. How stupid is he going to be today?
"Half measures & tinkering?"
This is getting to be totally depressing.
→ Clean Energy
February 5, 2009 - 12:20 ET by Cool ArrowHe is the ONE the Prophet Al Gore spoke of in his inconvenient epistlle.
→ CAFE standards on Dishwashers
February 5, 2009 - 12:22 ET by Cool ArrowThe guy is a genius.
Rise to this moment!
February 5, 2009 - 12:24 ET by BlondeOh yeah, right!
He's an absolute idiot.
What a temper tantrum.
Oh he doesn't like the "bickering".
Two words for you, Obama, and the first one starts with an "F".
→ He's lying!!
February 5, 2009 - 12:23 ET by Cool ArrowHe wants to replace the Govt fleets with Flex-Fuel which means they will use gasoline in the vehicles because it is more efficient and less expensive than ethanol.
The B Obamatudes, from on high
February 5, 2009 - 12:32 ET by upcountrywaterThe meeek shall inherit my pie.
Give it all away now...
FREEDOM
(D)
The only reason to scare
February 5, 2009 - 12:26 ET by dscottThe only reason to scare anyone into making a hasty decision is to take advantage of them. Leadership by fear is not leadership, it's manipulation. Obama with no executive experience, no leadership experience falls back on the only means he knows to get people to follow - manipulation.
Scrap the bill and start fresh. There is no point in negotiating with a group of people whose idea of stimulus is government largess. Pelosi created this bill on the House side with zero input and no debate, the Senate has merely taken Pelosi's ideas and intends to nibble around the edges.
The only thing that happens when accepting Pelosi's Socialist ideas as a starting point and try to make it acceptable is to window dress a pile of crap. Crap is still crap no matter how frilly the curtains.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
→ The Sting
February 5, 2009 - 12:30 ET by Cool ArrowAnd fill the air with confusion.
Remember "The Sting" when the big payoff goes down and they've got "Lonigan?" all confused and he's got to get out of the Betting parlor because the cops are coming?
That's how we're getting played.
Absolutely right, the whole
February 5, 2009 - 12:52 ET by dscottAbsolutely right, the whole thing is a conjob. But interesting you chose that particular example, if you remember the viewpoint of the audience was to connect with the conartists attempting to sting an illegal bookie operation. In other words, their conjob was not morally wrong because they were stealing from criminals, people who supposedly got their money illicitedly.
In this case based on the recipients of Nancy Pelosi's idea of stimulus is to steal money from private investors via borrowing that trillion dollars using low interest bonds. Any moron who buys US bonds at this point will loose 25% or more of their principal when interest rates inevitably go up. You see Pelosi is running a sting on the private investors taking their money to give to her constituents and buy more constituents (votes) so she and her cronies can stay in power. This conjob is not simply about borrowing money for useless liberal boondoggles, it about a transfer of wealth. Who in their right minds believes the US will ever pay back the $10 trillion plus national debt???? Pelosi makes Madoff look like a rank amaetur.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
irreversible recession?
February 5, 2009 - 12:27 ET by katainkentThe Fear Machine is running on high! Thank God its powered by HOT AIR.
I am SO TIRED of the Government taking more and MORE of my hard earned MONEY and flushing it into gigantic money pits called government programs! If I ran my household like this we would be HOMELESS! Congress is full of a bunch of elitist, idealistic, unrealistic, DON'T HAVE A WHIT OF SENSE HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS - MMMMMORONS!
STOP THE PORKONOMICS!!
I am not signing this 1 Trillion dollar thank you note to D'Ohbama's contributors. And my congressmen had better not either.
grrr...
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -Edmund Burke
Behold the messiah's next appointment fiasco
February 5, 2009 - 12:30 ET by R D HelmYep, looks like its going to be Hilda Solis, Obama's pick for Secretary of Labor.
It appears comrade Solis (and no, I'n not kidding here, as she is a commie and a half) is dragging quite a train of baggage behind her:
http://www.weeklysta...
Obama's vetting people are pathetic.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
Pathetic is Right!
February 5, 2009 - 12:53 ET by semolina_filcherDa Man is clueless and HAS NO executive experience, period. No wisdom in Obie One's noggin.
Dave... I've been
February 5, 2009 - 13:01 ET by bigtimerDave...
I've been following this too regarding Solis...the not much upstairs total leftist sock puppet...and she is too, I have listened to her on the floor over time, she would just do as told, like a good little comrade.
Problem is...as another one bites the dust, who knows who they may name to replace her...know what I mean?
They have an agenda, and it won't be anyone less left that will follow the leaders (including, especially Sores) wishes.
BT, I am hoping, that with
February 5, 2009 - 13:04 ET by bassndudeBT, I am hoping, that with all these extremeists he keeps naming, that it will be the end of his term by the time he gets all his people in place..
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
majority????
February 5, 2009 - 12:32 ET by rick007How came when the majority of Americans want to Drill Now the Great "O" Dumbo says no I know better????
Fill your tires with air.
"O" Dumbos war on terorisim is to help them control our energy needs.
Look Obama, recession, at
February 5, 2009 - 12:35 ET by bassndudeLook Obama, recession, at this point is unavoidable. Devaluation is looming its ugly head. The dollar is only as strong as it is today, because everyone else in the world is printing money just as fast. The looming recession is upon us, and there is nothing the goverment can actively do, to help. The best thing the goverment can do, is an across the board tax cut of at least 10%, and get out of the way. In a year or two, things will be much better. You pass this bill, and we will still be looking at a deep recession when you leave office. And thats IF you serve 2 terms!
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Let's start with the CHIEF executive
February 5, 2009 - 12:41 ET by Jack BauerSo President Obama, speaking off the cuff, proclaims all King-like that executives are to have their salaries capped and that they must not be rewarded for failure..
Well Obama's the Chief Executive -- and he's already failing --
So let's start at the top. Cap and reduce HIS Salary!
By the way, under what article of the US Constitution does the President get the announce at a Press conference that private citizens in private companies can only earn what the President deems correct -- like some a flunky at the Court of King George 3??
That reminds me of something -- oh yeah, COMMUNISM 101
He should at least renounce
February 5, 2009 - 12:42 ET by ThisnThatHe should at least renounce the planned $100,000 white-house redecoration, if he has any sense of fair play and personal responsibility.
___________________________________
The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech
Jack, you have just identified the most dangerous thing...
February 5, 2009 - 12:45 ET by R D Helm...that Obama is currently doing.
Far more dangerous than even the "stimulus" bill.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
Hello Jack. King Obama, or
February 5, 2009 - 12:49 ET by bassndudeHello Jack. King Obama, or should I say, Comrad Obama? I hope this dont get done. Once something like that gets passed, they will limit the amount I can make, and everyone else. The boy sacking at the store will have a salary cap, and unable to take the tips. This is a really spooky guy up there. If we dont get some conservitives in congress and the senate, we may as well put the red star in the middle of our flag. This guy has to be stopped.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Communism 101 indeed
February 5, 2009 - 12:50 ET by bigtimerCommunism 101 indeed Jack!
Exactly what this is....
I have been more than infuriated, in fact I rarely use the term communism, but I already did today elsewhere, and that is exactly what is happening to this sweet country, incrementally for years as they can chip away, but now we are to the extreme, boiling point not far off.
Reid announced last night this would be done tonight, he must know the numbers...I pray he is wrong and people keep up the fight via calls ect., but what I saw witht he votes, he may be right, like I said earlier, Snowe and Collins must have been so swayed after he worked his magic on the two RINOs as they hadn't voted the way the did after meeting with him the day before.
Well if we are in fact
February 5, 2009 - 12:57 ET by taterWell if we are in fact sliding towards communism...I do have the solution, in my signature. It worked in Austria, Brazil, and Portugal.
www.theholyrosary.org
"There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we can not resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary." -Sister Lucia
Global Warming UPDATE (h/t Drudge)
February 5, 2009 - 12:43 ET by LionKingThis in from Buffalo where the temp is below ZERO.
don't forget
February 5, 2009 - 13:00 ET by rick007The one "O" Dumbo wants to run your 401 k's also. Dole the moneys back to you at his descreson
HMMMM
February 5, 2009 - 13:04 ET by rick007Yhe great "O" Dumbo is a terroist! He has me terroified
Etta James: He Ain't My President
February 5, 2009 - 13:08 ET by GothampcEtta told the audience: You know, your president, the one with the big ears -- he ain’t my president -- had that woman singing for him at his inauguration. She’s going to get her ass whooped ... Beyonce … I can’t stand Beyonce.”
http://weblogs.newsday.com/entertainment/celebrities_blog/2009/02/etta_james_has_beef_with_beyon.html
→ Ruth Bader Ginsberg
February 5, 2009 - 13:09 ET by Cool ArrowJustice Ginsberg in hospital for Pancreatic Cancer.
Surgery scheduled.
New SC Judge coming soon...
February 5, 2009 - 13:11 ET by bigtimerGet ready for a new Supreme Court leftist named...
Ruth Bader Ginsberg is hospitalized for pancreatic cancer.
Kooks
February 5, 2009 - 13:23 ET by GothampcIn this case it's not so bad. It woud be replacing one kook with another. It's the others we have to be concerned about.
That don't really bother
February 5, 2009 - 13:26 ET by ricklailThat don't really bother me. Her replacement is not going to Chief Justice. You just are replacing one far lefty for another. I don't know if they can find another one as far left as she is. What we need to do is pray for the health and safety of the good ones like Clarence Thomas.
Ricky Joe the Plumber
Ahhh, yes we must now all
February 5, 2009 - 13:53 ET by DCC1Ahhh, yes we must now all stand together in the new era and denounce the politics of fear, wait a democrat said it? Ahhh, we must all stand together and believe every word that comes from the all-mighty-O's mouth, (disent will not be tolerated!)
vicis pro insurgo est propinquus
Just read an article in
February 5, 2009 - 13:58 ET by DCC1Just read an article in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinal an how the Dems are starting their attack ads against certain Republicans in the house that voted against their spending bill. Around here they are targeting Rep. Sensenbrener with commercials that say, "he voted against helping crumbling schools in Wisconsin".
This is such BS it isn't even funny! It is not enough that they have a huge majority and can pass anything they want even without moderate democrats, NO DISENT IS ALLOWED! They will target you for simply voting against a bill, and run ads in you district and pour all kinds of dirty money in to make you look bad. And these local Reps don't even have the ability to defend themselves.
Talk about the Politics of FEAR, you must now FEAR voting against anything the neo-marxists propose!
vicis pro insurgo est propinquus
...you decide...
February 5, 2009 - 15:06 ET by vrwc13Is this enough to make one re-think their pro-abortion stance?
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→ So what's the problem?
February 5, 2009 - 16:36 ET by Cool ArrowCommissar Obama would be proud.
Cool A...the Commissar is a one term'r...
February 5, 2009 - 17:08 ET by vrwc13...just like jimma...
Why?
...so...my prediction is that he won't even last through the 2012 primaries!
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→ Think so vrwc?
February 5, 2009 - 17:17 ET by Cool ArrowI'm of the opinion this country has so sold out to the Satan that we may get much more than 8 years.
I see absolutely no evidence this country will turn away from their plea "We need a king"
This can be blamed on Bush for far longer than you think.
How many terms did FDR get?
Cool A...maybe..."We need a king"
February 5, 2009 - 17:35 ET by vrwc13...but think of what happened to him!
Satan is no match for the King of Kings!
...also the "call for a king" gave Israel this guy: Saul “took a sword and fell upon it.”
v
→ All well and good
February 5, 2009 - 17:36 ET by Cool ArrowBut weren't Shadrach, Meshach, Abednago, and Daniel eunuchs in the court of Nebuchadnezzar?
Dan 1:7 Unto whom the prince of the eunuchs gave names: for he gave unto Daniel
the name of Belteshazzar; and to Hananiah, of Shadrach; and to Mishael,
of Meshach; and to Azariah, of Abednego.
Our allegiance to a king is not without its price.
Our allegiance to a king is not without its price.
February 5, 2009 - 17:40 ET by vrwc13Our allegiance to a king is not without its price.
...it always comes with a price, but in the final game... fortunately my King paid it for me.
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→ Same King vrwc13
February 5, 2009 - 17:48 ET by Cool ArrowI serve the same King.
My point is that the generations before Daniel were responsible for Daniel's slavery.
I'll be surprised if we're all still here in 8 years. I think we're that close to His coming.
"Come!"
February 6, 2009 - 16:56 ET by vrwc13"Come!"
Just wanted to send PopTech this one
February 5, 2009 - 15:19 ET by mandrakeHi PopTech.,thought you might like to add this link to your endless lists of lists.
http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/abc/home/contentposting.aspx?isfa=1&feedname=CTV-TOPSTORIES_V3&showbyline=True&date=true&newsitemid=CTVNews%2f20090205%2fsea_levels_090205
Sorry about that.. just how does someone reduce a link to 'here'?
just how does someone reduce a link to 'here'?
February 5, 2009 - 15:41 ET by vrwc13voila
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mandrake, That's a wish list for somebody like "Giles"
February 5, 2009 - 18:01 ET by upcountrywaterGlobal warming is NOT happening, ain't going to be huge slabs of ice melting in the next 20-50 years..
FREEDOM
(D)
→ Here's our chance
February 5, 2009 - 16:33 ET by Cool ArrowHaving not yet completed Obama's "Litany of the Cheats" (ora pro nobis), it's time for us to use this demonstration of corruption to demand a national sales tax in lieu of the slippery laws we (well, most of us) follow.
→ Leon Puñeta
February 5, 2009 - 18:28 ET by Cool ArrowAnybody catch Leon Puñeta's hearing when he denied any knowledge of 80 renditions performed during the Clinton Administration?
I think Puñeta really is jerking us around.
Senor Paneta
February 5, 2009 - 19:34 ET by Sergeant ROCKI saw that clip of his testimony on FNC. What a doofuss!!
And you thought a 'community organizer' was a lame excuse? This guy has no business heading the CIA.
Bolton/KEYES 2012