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Stimulus package

This morning on Fox there was a panel "discussion" of BHO's sitmulus package.  One of the panelists, who is a regular and who I believe works for Gov Corzine, said with a straight face that BHO would make sure there wasn't any pork in the $755 billion package.

Uh huh.

I laughed when I heard that.

I laughed when I heard that. It was such a transparent lie. Quite the opposite, he's going to make sure there is pork. Congress wouldn't pass it if there wasn't.

Actually in his speech he

Actually in his speech he called for Congress to pass the incentive package pork-free so there would not be a reason to slow it down for debate. He called on both parties to keep it free of any additions.

A person may be won over with logic and reason but the masses must be bought with spectacle and platitudes. - 2008 Elections

Stimulus Bill

As far as I can tell there is no stimulus bill on paper yet. How can he say something like that. The Dems are going to write the bill the way they want it worded. It will be so full of pork that if you threw it in a fire it would smell like bacon frying.

YOU CAN KEEP "THE CHANGE" PALIN 2012

I watched it.  Bush was

I watched it.  Bush was terrific, a class act for sure.  I'm going to miss him.  I was so glad he addressed the Katrina problem.  I just wish he would have addressed the financial problem the way Cheney did yesterday reminding people that his administration tried to pass legistation on Fannie/Freddie, but that congress blocked it (the dem. controlled congress).

Wow

As long as I have been a part of of NB, and for the past 8 years. we have had a Republican President

It will certainly be a change of pace in less than two weeks. I wish the President well in his private life.

He had my vote

→ Press conference

Obama got yanked around already with the question about releasing TARP funds before leaving office.

President Bush replied that Obama hasn't asked yet for them to be released.

Obama quickly knee-jerked that he wants the funds released.

We're going to see a lot of this.

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Well Cool Arrow

Bush is leaving office in less than two weeks. I am hoping Obama looks forward instead of backwards. Unfortunately I believe you are right in the sense that there will be alot of fingerpointing to this unpopular President for years to come.

He had my vote

→ It's interesting

People who have been kept safe for 7 years will be pointing fingers at President Bush.

Yeah, I can see it continuing.

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duplicate

duplicate

The Washington Post...

...is already completing trashing W's handling of the economy over the last 8 years.  And in typical fashion the fact that that he inherited a weakening economy from Clinton and that there was that unpleasantness on 9/11 is barely mentioned.  Oh, and the fact  he had a Dem senate the first two years and a Dem senate and house the last two years to deal with wasn't mentioned either.

Economy Made Few Gains in Bush Years

Eight-Year Period Is Weakest in Decades

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/11/AR2009011102301_2.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2009011200359&s_pos=

 

Economic Crisis

wasn't mentioned either ... The Countrywide boys? Sen IndyMac Schumer?

Anyone ever consider how many miles the average person drives every year? Gas prices now half of what they were about 6 months ago, are people saving more or less than stimulus II?

Why is this firewalled from the news media? 

JDW

DAILY WAVE

Whatever else you think, your mother and my mother are both mothers

there will be alot of

there will be alot of fingerpointing to this unpopular President

Remember Road House where Swayze said Opinions vary.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Remember Road House where Swayze said Opinions vary.

I guess I also have to  remember nobody puts Danny in the corner . The love you have for Bush, you will take it with you i'm sure.

and pain don't hurt huh? ;-)

He had my vote

Obama is just a pawn, I

Obama is just a pawn, I don't think we even know who is pulling the strings yet, there is going to be a battle though, the media, congress, left wing terrorists, and the elite money are all in a battle right now over O's soul. I guess only time will tell.

 

As for Bush, I loved the line about how he can look himself in the mirror when he gets back to Texas, wonder if the O can say the same already?

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I wish he would have showed

I wish he would have showed more anger and indignation during his Presidency.  The media is truly guilty of malpractice and disrespect of this good man.

Thats so true, if W just

Thats so true, if W just had alittle less honor and would of played the Clinton/All dem plan of fighting every accusation as passionate as he was today things would be so different.

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marpel, I'm afraid the

marpel,

I'm afraid the Bushes are the type of family who's code of honor prevents them from giving as good as they get - stiff upper lip and all. It's classy - but not practical in today's political landscape and discourse. 

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

lLast Presser

 I watched the last presser, and what I took away was that George was melancholy, sad to see his time end, relaxed, he was letting himself have fun,tough,defensive, saying that no one knew what he dealt with daily, and willing to let history judge him, not those pustulant boils who gave him daily grief. I wish he had been this forthcoming more often, but most of all the man is class. I will miss him.

 Bringing the government in to run Wall Street is like saying, "Dad burned the dinner, let's get the dog to cook." PJ O'Rourke

Did not watch it, but from

Did not watch it, but from reading parts of it, I found it to be another typical example of why he has a low image:  he capitualtes to his critics too easily. 

True, he did defend himself in some areas, but how he can concede the WMD point when 550 metric tons of uranium were found in Iraq, along with plenty of evidence that showed a pre-war effort to remove truckloads of ??? from the country? 

He also constantly fails to address the major point that Hussein claimed to have WMD and that his violation of 14 U.N. resolutions gave us no way of knowing if he was lying or not; and so we either had to eliminate him as a threat or allow the threat to grow.

He could also have mentioned that he never said anything about WMD that Clinton hadn't previously said.

By his unwillingness to fight the left, he has damaged his own image, his party's image and the prospects for the future.

Too many idiots are going to look at Bush and use that as their justification for thoughtlessly voting for Democrats for the rest of their lives.  This is what RINOism gets you.

My word on the Clinton administration was "eight wasted years."  My word on Bush is "Blown opportunity."

Now we're stuck with the Union of Soviet Socialist States of what used to be America.  How sad.

"Did not watch it, but


"Did not watch it, but from reading parts of it, I found it to be another typical example of why he has a low image:  he capitualtes to his critics too easily. "

Wait to you see it, he got pretty hot at some points, wasn't all sledge hammer but he was tough, I think you might change your mind. If he would of acted like this all the time, people would be begging for a third term.

 The only thing that botherd me was his one big regret was immigration reform.

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The Great Communicator

I didn't see Bush's last press conference but yesterday was the 20th anniversary of Ronald Reagan's final address and I did find time to watch that. Hard to compete with the "great communicator".

http://www.youtube.c...

 I watched it, and you

 I watched it, and you know if he would of come out swinging like that about once a week for the last 8 years he would be reguarded as the toughest and best leader we have ever had! W where were you?

I think his biggest problem has been taking the high road. Being to afraid challange the snakes because there claims are ludicris. The problem was over 50% of the country only heard the one side of the story, and over a long enough period of time they started to believe the lies.

 

 

My favorite part was when he addressed BDS

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dcc1,

It would have been nice to see the President defend himself and his administration but it is entirely possible that would have made things worse. As we are seeing now with Gov. Palin, like or not, if you open your mouth for any reason you will just give the media ammunition. Enough people listened to get him elected twice and win in Iraq and in todays anti-Republican media that is quite an accomplishment. An accomplishment he may not have been able to pull off if the media would of had more ammo given to them from his own mouth.

A person may be won over with logic and reason but the masses must be bought with spectacle and platitudes. - 2008 Elections

That is possible, but it

That is possible, but it is interesting that when W finds a subject that he cares so much about, and doesn't use a script how clear articulate and persuasive he can be. 

I think the biggest problem wouldn't of been his words getting torn up, but rather them falling on deph ears. The media would cover him up refuse to broadcast or even cover his speech.

I found it interesting, remember back when the networks refused to interupt programming to boardcast the pres anymore. I wonder how many times they will say the same to the one! 

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I was hoping he'd give Helen

I was hoping he'd give Helen Thomas one last toot. ;) Otherwise, one of his best pressers. He's always at his best when he's completely candid. This was just about the most candid I've seen him in a long time.

QueenMum

Did you not see Helen? He might have called on her but she was either asleep/in a coma/or dead. She was slumped over and her slanty eyes appeared closed. But I understand some lizards look like they are asleep when they are awake, so I can't be sure. As for Bush being more aggresive, yes, it would have been nice, but honestly I don't think it would have helped. He learned early on that he was going to be considered wrong, no matter what he said/did, so he decided to take the high road, and refused to wallow in the muck. As I said before, class always tells. He has it in spades.

 

Bringing the government in to run Wall Street is like saying, "Dad burned the dinner, let's get the dog to cook." PJ O'Rourke

→ Helen the Hut

The camera didn't stay on her long, but I was able to capture this picture of Helen Thomas from her website.

She really was a looker in her younger days.

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ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!  You are

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!  You are so bad. ;-)

cool

Everything looked the same, but where was the wig? Seriously did anyone else not die laughing when they saw her today? I swear they needed a mirror under the nose check. Course, I guess there's a fear that getting close may result in finger/hand loss.

Bringing the government in to run Wall Street is like saying, "Dad burned the dinner, let's get the dog to cook." PJ O'Rourke

George Bush Press Conference

I saw bits and pieces, but as usual, he was

"class".    I too wish he had been more aggressive

against the media during his term, but I think that

Laura held him back a bit and didn't want him acting like a cowboy.  He got criticized for that

once.   You people are right, no matter what he

did he would have been criticized because he was

Republican and conservative.   Happy retirement

Laura and George.   Love ya!!!!

 

→ Bush should have asked

I wish he had asked, by show of hands, how many members of the press corps honestly believe Israel would continue their attack on Gaza if Hamas halted the rocket attacks.

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"If Hamas would lay down

"If Hamas would lay down their guns, there would be no more war.  If Israel were to lay down their guns, there would be no more Israel".

In answer to your question, their would be no hands.

C-

terrorism A+

Supreme Court A+ (we think so far)

pro-life A

tax cut A (no follow up)

immigration F

being proactive D- (last 6 years)

going direct to the people D-

vetoing massive spending bills F

bailout F

...I have a strong conservative Blog and maybe I expected too much...but I sincerely believe the Bushes paved the way for Obama (#1 liberal = secular socialist)...all this smiling pancake behavior is not respected by many...hey, slap me around, I love it...would any democrat let himself be trashed for 6 years without any strong return fire?

I can say the only thing worse was the F-- of republican leadership...running an old insider after 8 years...they learned NOTHING from the Dole defeat.

Now they want another mush mouth insider (part of the problem) guy in 2012...losers find a way to lose..they are in denial...a year from now the rage will be so great against Obama (despite the diaper-changing media) due to 401ks that are still 25%+ down from July 2008...millions will be ready for a win in 2010...to send another 50 CONSERVATIVE Republicans to congress!! I remember Jimmah Carter...hey, look him up...we got Jimmah II or Xerxes I as I like to call Obama.

From the movie "300"..."THIS IS WHERE WE HOLD THEM, THIS IS WHERE WE FIGHT"...will be the call by June...mark it...an old saying..."any army of lambs led by a lion will defeat an army of lions led by a lamb"...we have an all-lamb army these days. GB was no real help.

(in the meantime cower in the corner and let liars and media kooks kick your face in...God, we miss you Newt and Tom)

Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)

 Did you not see Helen?

 Did you not see Helen? He might have called on her but she was either asleep/in a coma/or dead. She was slumped over and her slanty eyes appeared closed.  But I understand some lizards look like they are asleep when they are awake, so I can't be sure.

LOL!

I nearly coughed up a lung from laughing so hard!

SOMEONE.... PLEASE HELP !!!!!!

Where's the full video clip? The Yahoo page only showed me a few snippets... :(:(:(

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

I don't know, but I hope you

I don't know, but I hope you can find it.  It was worth watching.  I'm sure it will be up somewhere soon.  I'll let you know if I run upon it.

Seashell, here is a link, scroll down page, it's worth watching.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/12/from-the-white-house-briefing-room-a-swan-song/?hp

I liked the part about , his mountain biking, pounding the trail to forget he's President just for a moment. President Bush, I'm going to miss you...

FREEDOM

(D)

 

Thank you!

Thank you!

Bush will be the Republican "Harry Truman" in history

In 2 or 3 generations, Bush will get an upgrade from unborn historians like Harry Truman did.  My biggest beef is that I found out a "compassionate conservative" means he can spend money like a democrat.  Well, he kept us safe.  I doubt Berry will do as well.

means he can spend money

means he can spend money like a democrat

We must remember while the President is complicit in authorizing the spending by signing a bill thereby making it law, the Congress is actually the one who says how mauch and where and what to spend. 

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

why the libs Hate Bush, why I hate his policies

The libs hate Bush because he doesn't screw around, they miss the free pass of "even the president does it" it's really that simple.

 

I know people who have met him and he's a nice guy..., but his policies:pork, spending, aids aid to Africa when we are running deficits. Allowing our boys to needlessly get killed in Iraq by not carpet bombing the Triangle, being unable to articulate ANYTHING, borders, immigration, just horrible.

Ramos  &  

Ramos  &   Compean....?????????????????????????????????????????????

 

Come on Bush, do the right thing..

 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

 

→ He will

I've got to believe he will.

And I'm not talking about a commuted sentence, either.

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It'll be just about

It'll be just about unforgivable if Bush passes on this. Scandalous and infamous for conservatives, forever. 

"The nature of an ideology is not determined by majority vote—but by logic... The logic of environmentalism leads to a society without technology... even if various environmentalists would deny this." Ayn Rand, 1971

I'm gonna miss the

I'm gonna miss the man.

The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy

I think some are going to be disappointed.

 I have felt all along that he won't pardon or commute them. I hope he does, but I really don't think so. I think everyone that thinks he will, may get disappointed. He is not big on this, he wasn't in TX, can't see him changing. I keep wondering if there's more to their story we aren't hearing. It just seems their punishment was way too harsh. Heck, I would give them an award for shooting the drug dude in the butt, but that's just me.

 

Bringing the government in to run Wall Street is like saying, "Dad burned the dinner, let's get the dog to cook." PJ O'Rourke

This may give some of you comfort

As it did me. While talking to a wise, old friend of mine about those Border Patrol agents, he said something that gave me pause. He said "Joseph was injustly imprisoned for over 10 years."
You just never know what God has up his sleeve.....

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

Not so, political maven...

Speaking only for myself, I'm a Democrat who likes Bush on a personal level precisely because he is a man of character, integrity, humor and grace.  Grade:  solid "A"

On policy issues, I give him a "C-" [and that may be too generous].

Jer

A Good Man

If we want to make a list of all of the things President Bush did that we believe are wrong, let me get the paper and pencil and I'll get it started.  However he is a good and honest man and has nothing to be ashamed of from the last eight years.  

I do believe that he was responsible for his own low approval ratings.  I also don't believe he was deserving of them.  He let the MSM dictate to the country, for years, their distorted opinion of him and he never tried to get the truth out.  In his place I would have spoken publically weekly at least.  If the public was given his reasons for doing what he was doing by the President himself, they may not have deserted him in droves which they seem to have done.  

This may, in part, have led to maintaining Republican control of at least one of the chambers of the Senate and possibly retaining of the Presidency. 

However the MSM relentlessly trashed him by bringing on five liberals to a single conservative and reporting half-truths as fact.  How many times did you read or hear something put out by the MSM and yell "That's not right!" but not been able to do anything about it?

Now we are in for at least four years of uber-liberalism and socialsim under the guise of "progressive policies" and "fixing" this or that becasue the Bush administration screwed it up.

Sigh...

Since government is coercion, politics is largely the exercise of deception regarding the intended use of coercion - George Orwell

I keep hearing the libs

I keep hearing the libs talking about Bush trampling the Constitution but they never cite Article or section. About a month ago I worte a letter to the editor of our local paper on the same subject. None of the nimrods that writes about Bush's crimes ever replied with book, chapter and verse.  

YOU CAN KEEP "THE CHANGE" PALIN 2012

Mistle Toe

 Ole W stood up purty well for himself, i was glad. The only thing else i wish he had done was his last comment, as he turned to go, should have been; Well boys, this is my last gig with yall, i just want you to take special note of this chunk of mistletoe pinned to the tail of my coat as i leave!!~~!!~~!!~~!!~~!!~~!!

(GRINS)   kilrod

Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier

→ Crumbling Durbin

Looks like we may get Roland Burris seated in the Senate today.

Harriet Reid backed down last week when it became obvious to even the casual observer that he's a racist.

Reid passed the torch to Dick Turban who, must have grabbed it by the flame, because he dropped it pretty quick.

So here we are, about to accept an African American into the Senate against the wishes of the White Democrat leaders.

A great blow against racism is about to be struck.

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→ Burris Wins!

Senate confirms Burris against the wishes of the White Democrat Leaders.

Congratulations to the Republicans for standing against Harriet Reid and Dick Turban.

A mighty blow against racism has been struck.

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Cool.... I just heard

Cool....

I just heard this news myself...as far as I am concerned Burris wins against O/Soros too...O was the one in the lead behind the scenes who Did Not want him seated in the first place...I love the soap-opera myself.

Plus, I may have heard wrong, but on another track, I had it turned to Fox from when I came in from outside and I thought I heard Shep say O was shutting down Gitmo on Inauguration Day...has anyone else heard this...I haven't looked anywhere else yet, or turned on the radio stations yet either...just wondered if you heard anything like this yet?

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

→ Yes bigtimer

FOX did report that the O could sign the directive as early as Jan 20.  It will likely ba a directive to begin finding suitable lodging for them elsewhere.

Here we go again with the old Clinton/Gore method of "Rendition".

I'm betting you'll find scratches in the paint where they begged to stay.

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Thanks Cool... I was

Thanks Cool...

I was starting to wonder if I had heard things...precious he does this on his coronation day...hear Britain has plans for them.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

I've got a question

Anybody seen Dave lately?

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

Maybe he found a job. I

Maybe he found a job.

I hope so for him.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

So, this is O's religeous choice?

Openly gay bishop to deliver first inauguration event invocation 

Robinson is queer, and is responsible for accelerating the breakup of his church. But, he's being honored by Obama. And what does Robinson have to say? Anything religeous, you might ask? Well, not exactly.... here you go. 

Robinson had been a critic of Warren’s role, calling his inclusion in the [innauguration] event “really, really unfortunate” because of the California minister's support for California's Prop. 8, which barred same-sex marriage.

It's about this particular venue and the role that he [Warren] has in praying for all of America, and I'm just not sure he'd pray to God the same way I would,” Robinson told Beliefnet last month.

So, no one can pray like a queer person, eh? Wonderfull, just wonderfull. Such an excelent choice to put in front of the nation.  Of course, Robinson won't be happy until every single one of us abandon marriage and adopt the queer version of perversion, I guess. Absolutely disgusting.

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

Different AP views

I've been noticing this for a while. Here are three different statements within the same AP story:

At least 20 Palestinians died Monday, some them from wounds suffered on previous days, Gaza health officials said.

The fighting began Dec. 27 and has killed more than 900 Palestinians, about half of them civilians, according to Palestinian medical officials.

Israeli leaders have said the operation is close to achieving its goals. Security officials say they have killed hundreds of Hamas fighters, including top commanders, but there has been no way to confirm the claims.

Notice how the AP gives 100% certainty to the two Palestinian claims, but discounts the Israeli claims? Just another subtle way the AP is telling us that Israel can't be trusted with the truth.

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

Excellent catch! The

Excellent catch!

The Press certainly is showing their sliminess.

Wow TnT... Like strat,

Wow TnT...

Like strat, both of your posts are excellent catches.

Thank you...I knew nothing about either of them.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

I just hope Bush packs up and leaves before he signs another...

...hideous bailout bill that we cannot afford.

And when he does look into the mirror, I hope he remembers to thank himself for being a huge reason Barack Hussein Obama is the one who will be replacing him in the White House.

Let's all hope George W. Bush is the last of the RINO POTUS breed, as I am not altogether sure we would survive another.

Who knows, maybe the cleaning staff will find his VETO pen when they are cleaning up after him, because he sure as hell couldn't.

-Dave

“Them that’s going get on the wagon. Them that ain’t get out of the way.” -While there is still time.