For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: Deep Throat dead at 95.
W. Mark Felt, who leaked information to reporters under the moniker, "Deep Throat," about the Watergate break-in, died Thursday at the age of 95, sources told CNN...Felt admitted in a 2005 Vanity Fair article he was the Washington Post's source for many of its 400 stories on the Watergate affair during the early 1970s. The Watergate break-in eventually led to the 1974 resignation of President Richard Nixon.
How will history view Felt? Maybe more important, how will history view Watergate? Was it emblematic of ultimate White House corruption, or the moment in American history when journalism changed forever and media members universally became gotcha hounds looking for the next big story that could make them stars instead of reporting the news?





















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→ Another Deep Throat
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 11:24 ET by Cool ArrowDid you know that GM is the largest private purchaser of Viagra?
$17,000,000 per year.
Trying to boost limp sales, I'd imagine.
I find that a bit hard to
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 11:29 ET by T-Bone MassI find that a bit hard to swallow. Those poor GM workers, we can't let that company go into chapter 11, the government has to do something, loan them some cash, otherwise those GM won't have anything to hang their hats on.
→ Meet Bob
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 11:31 ET by Cool ArrowWonder how much Enzyte they buy? Maybe they can't even measure up to a Chapter 7.
Enough Please
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 12:12 ET by ricklailYou got to stop it. I hurt some ribs last night and am hurting every time I laugh. This ain't helping.
YOU CAN KEEP "THE CHANGE" PALIN 2012
You got to excuse us Rick
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 12:22 ET by cocodrieIt's hard to be good, then again, it's got to be hard to be good.
Trying to boost limp sales,
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 11:31 ET by SeashellTrying to boost limp sales, I'd imagine. Good one!
Seriously, that is unbelievable. No wonder things are so screwed up at GM.
→ That's it!
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 11:33 ET by Cool ArrowThat explains the downward plunge.
And
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 11:41 ET by Seashelland the soft sales.
Thus the money isn't flowing
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 12:55 ET by AJThus the money isn't flowing down stream as it should.
"Screwed up????"
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 12:16 ET by motherbeltI'm not touching that with a ten-foot pole!
→ Luckily
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 14:10 ET by Cool ArrowLuckily I have an 11 ft. pole - Felix the Cat
Does it---
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 15:01 ET by misterbillDoes it --- put a tiger in my tank??????
Perhaps it's to steel the worker against the blow of possible unemployment.
It may be called a stimulus package.
One way to keep our member(s) aroused.
Give them too much and they will need more vaction time.
What else is there to do when you're idled???
Let me point the way!
What does this mean?
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 11:42 ET by BKeyserNo more deep throat? Damn...
If there had been a "deep
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 11:50 ET by mattmIf there had been a "deep throat" during the Clinton years, and a politically active conservative media, specifically determined to bring Clinton down, Billy Boy would be in jail.
Nixon was guilty of very minor shenanigans... No bodies were found in parks, nor did any witnesses die in prison the day before scheduled testimony during the Nixon Administration....
When Billy got in trouble - time and time again - people started dying. Vince Foster, James McDougal and many others...
I guess any republican "deept throat" that may have existed met the same fate.
"If a republican spits on the sidewalk, it's corruption. If a democrat spits on the constitution, it's progressiveness." - Publius
mattm.. if
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 12:14 ET by Gary Hall..if there'd been a 'deep throat' .. I'd suspect that during a Democratic White House, Clinton or anyone else, the mainstream media would not have been interested in his story.
Thinking of that as I see almost daily examples of this in the news: this, in the LA Times today, in the side bar about the Clinton Foundation donors:
Note:
1. "several" - like is that 6 or 7 folks. Wasn't the list rather large.. here's one example from the WaPost: "404 people had stayed overnight at the executive mansion or Camp David since Hillary Rodham Clinton launched her campaign for the U.S. Senate, many of them donors who have given in excess of $600,000 to support her effort.."
2. " ..prompting Republicans to investigate." Is it not interesting that almost everything being done by the Democrats that looks shady or corrupt, when and if it ever gets reported by the MSM, is blamed on the "Republicans investigating" them?
The MSM investigates the Republicans and brings it's investigations of rumors, "some say," to the front page, above the fold, or in the top of the network news - followed up by special reports on NPR, etc.
The national press does not have the even the curiosity to investigate the Democrats. Just ask Bill Clinton how many times a reporter has asked him about how bad it must have felt to leave town right in the middle of that 2000 economic bubble collapse. Imagine a reporter asking him why, after he promised "Never Again," [Rwanda], another 3 1/2 to 5 million human beings died in civil war and genocide in the DR Congo, Sierra Leone, Angola, and the Ivory Coast - and 5 million more from HIV/Aids and malaria in Africa? Perhaps the Republicans should have investigated him and asked the questions.
I'm gonna get in trouble for this one, but.....
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 13:11 ET by bpjamif there had been a 'deep throat' in the Clinton White House.....there wouldn't have been evidence left on Monicas dress. (rim shot)
But seriously, Mark Felt is a politically motivated weasal. Anybody who settles political scores by using the vermin in the media is political scum. He is a weasel and should have outed himself long ago and taken responsibility for violating his oath of office and for not seeking to have Nixon prosecuted through official channels for any crimes. Reporting somebody to the MSM is not justice, it's childish revenge.
Thank God Felt never became FBI Director. The country dodged a bullet.
bpjam..
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 14:53 ET by Gary Hallwell, you might get in a bit of a 'jam' on the first part - but on the second and 3rd views - dead on. In fact, I'd be willing to wager that had this Felt been a Republican leaning top guy at the FBI and was pulling this on a Democratic president - say a Clinton or Obama - the MSM either would have had nothing to do with him, or would be out to destroy the man's career. (;~/ gary
My vote
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 11:52 ET by NorthCoasterMy vote is for the point where Media became driven by the next explosive story that could make an investigative reporter a star.
The Plumber's operation itself, shows how power can drive a person like President Nixon over the edge in a quest to maintain his position.
I'm still conflicted over the actions of Felt because he should have had the nerve to tell the President that what was done was not legal, instead of telling the Press.
Agree
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 12:08 ET by Gat New YorkI think Felt will be just an interesting footnote in the history of the excesses by Nixon's lieutenants in defense of their boss as well as the fear of the unknown which were the the anti-war movement and its socialist beliefs.
→ Greg Palkot and the SEALS
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 11:58 ET by Cool ArrowFOX News Greg Palkot is reporting embed with the Navy SEALS from the Gulf of Aden, off Somalia.
Meanwhile CNN is trying to score money for Misha O.
Uh-ohhh...Pray for a favorable outcome.
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 11:59 ET by bianchi_bocconeTalkin' about Gotcha Media...
This just in about Levi Johnston's Mom...seems she got caught up in the sad world of the meth-addicted. Hopefully this will not impact Palin's aspirations for 2012. Let's pray for her.
Levi Johnston's mother hit with drug charges
Ciao,
B.Boccone
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate." -D.Alighieri
No doubt the media
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 12:05 ET by general companyWill find this far more importaint then say, trying to sell a Senate seat.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Somehow, the media will find
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 12:05 ET by SeashellSomehow, the media will find a way to blame Palin.
Christmas dinner...
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 12:12 ET by bianchi_boccone...is going to be awkward to say the least!
Bristol is supposedly going to deliver her baby tomorrow. Hopefully, the Media will focus on this new addition to the Palin family than the In-laws to be.
Ciao,
B.Boccone
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate." -D.Alighieri
Not suprised. Well it's
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 12:27 ET by motherbeltNot suprised.
Well it's a close relationship....only 3 degrees of separation. No one would know or care who Sheryl Johnston was, if they didn't explain! And that's important!!
Human interest, you know.
\sarc
if that's a recent photo
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 12:19 ET by botgshe's not a meth addict
----- Radical Liberal
She's the pusher at the moment...
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 13:12 ET by bianchi_boccone...it's only a matter of time before the evil sucks her in. Most Meth producers become users in a short period of time...unless she has a wonderful business plan to make a lot of money and never touch the stuff. You think she pays taxes on all of her profits? I wonder what kind of Christmas party she was going to throw for the Palins and her manufacturing and distribution company. Hopefully, she'll get straightened out and give her heart over to Jesus. God bless them all!
Ciao,
B.Boccone
"Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate." -D.Alighieri
Don't know how many look at
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 17:52 ET by Gary P JacksonDon't know how many look at the Ancorage Daily News on a regular basis, but there are a McClatchy newspapaer. Enough said.
They are brutal. I mean ever single step Governor Palin makes, they go after her in a negative light. It's amazing.
And I swear they either pay people or these are staffers who comment on the stories. But any story on Palin, and within minutes you will have the most vile statements imaginable.
You can imagine this story, and how it looked this morning!
It's a legitimate news story, but other than the fact that they may end up being related by marriage, there is no connection to Sarah or the Palin family, and this deal.
Anyhow, you guys are right, the media is having a field day up there.
Meanwhile absolutely no one has reported on the 4 SCOTUS cases questioning Barry's birth certificate, or really digging into how far Barry is into this Blago deal.
Battle Hymn of the Republic
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 12:09 ET by ricklailHere is a rendition of the Battle Hymn that may make your eyes water. Me I am still partial to DIXIE but I really liked this.
YOU CAN KEEP "THE CHANGE" PALIN 2012
How 'bout that bailout!
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 12:10 ET by Cool ArrowBig III are celebrating over a $17 billion stipend to get them through til Jan 20.
A very large trough is being built on the Mall in D.C. as we speak.
Fill it and swill it, boys.
Snow loving dog!
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 12:17 ET by motherbeltThis Snow-loving dog is hilarious!
Awesome pooch!
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 21:14 ET by stratmanAwesome pooch!
OOPSIE! Looks like Obama's staff was talking...
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 12:28 ET by Prester John...to Blago about that Senate seat afterall. But then again they'll just say the Emanuel wasn't officially on BHO's staff during the discussions so it doesn't count.
Emanuel talked directly to gov: source
President-elect Barack Obama's incoming chief of staff Rahm Emanuel had a deeper involvement in pressing for a U.S. Senate seat appointment than previously reported, the Sun-Times has learned. Emanuel had direct discussions about the seat with Gov. Blagojevich, who is is accused of trying to auction it to the highest bidder.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/1337789,CST-NWS-rahm18good.article
Any bets on when Emanuel will step down from being BHO's Chief of Staff so as not to be a "distraction" to the Annointed One's mission of saving the country and the world?
He wont have too
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 12:33 ET by general companyAny bets on when Emanuel will step down from being BHO's Chief of
Staff so as not to be a "distraction" to the Annointed One's mission of
saving the country and the world?
You said it yourself
...to Blago about that Senate seat afterall. But then
again they'll just say the Emanuel wasn't officially on BHO's
staff during the discussions so it doesn't count.
They are covered without debate, and the msm will make sure that they stay covered.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Stepping down
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 12:48 ET by BKeyserI go you one further...
Any bets that Emanuel will step down and be appointed the junior Senator from Illinois?
Not that i think it will happen, but I wouldn't necessarily put it past the Obamarrogant Team.
Chicago Tribune Blagojevich to hold 2 p.m. news conference
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 13:11 ET by dmsmsaGov. Rod Blagojevich scheduled a news conference today to make a
statement to the media, his first public appearance since he was
arrested last week on federal corruption charges.
Blagojevich
has avoided the public eye for the most part since his arrest, but in
recent days has told reporters camped outside his house that he is
eager to talk to the people of Illinois.
The advisory released
this morning from the governor's office said only that Blagojevich
would make a statement to the press at 2 p.m. at the James R. Thompson
Center in downtown Chicago.
It was not clear if he would take questions.
--Staff report
is it just me
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 13:22 ET by criticalthinkingor is gotcha journalism just wack job right wing slang for tought questions? sorry guys, gotach journalism is a figment of the imagination of people who cannot spell 'got you.' Furthermore, I have a sweet heart tax break for the first one who can explaine how 'what news paper do you read,' is "gotcha journalism."
It is just you
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 13:31 ET by general companyTough questions are fine, show me some that were asked of and then answered by Obama. You wont find any, so this is a double standard by all accounts. Asking him "how does it feel" doesnt cut it. Do the compairing yourself. The question and answers are readly avalible.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
"The passing of a legend."
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 14:00 ET by HillbillyKingThe greatest ALL AROUND player in NFL history,
Slingin' Sammy Baugh ;
passed away yesterday at 94.
As any true Redskin fan will know, Sammy's number 33 is the only officially retired number in the franchise's history.
Of course the fact that he was included in the very first HOF class in 1963 speaks volumes about his meaning to football. Just look at his classmates;
Bert Bell
Joe Carr
Earl (Dutch) Clark
Harold (Red) Grange
George Halas
Mel Hein
Wilbur (Pete) Henry
Robert (Cal) Hubbard
Don Hutson
Earl (Curly) Lambeau
Tim Mara
George Preston Marshall
John (Blood) McNally
Bronko Nagurski
Ernie Nevers
Jim Thorpe
For the fans; Sonny meets Sammy
There will never be another one like Slingin' Sammy.
As an aside, how does Jim Thorpe not recieve the honor as the Greatest Athlete of the 20th Century.
Athlete is defined by Merriam Webster as;
: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina
Thorpe played professional baseball, basketball and football(and is in the PFHOF) Oh, and also won the 1912 Olympic gold in the Decathlon and Pentathlon.
Any other considerations for greatest athlete are only one sports phenoms or the rare two sporter. Thorpe played 3 pro sports and won the 2 toughest Olympic events.
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
What a shame
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 14:11 ET by general companyI loved to here interviews with him, he realy had a way with words.
RIP Mr. Baugh
edit
The poll on his stats is increadible, wow
Most TD Passes In Redskins History: 187
70.3 completion percentage in 1945
Led NFL in passing a record six times
31 career interceptions as a DB
NFL record 51.4 punting average in 1940
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
How many Deadskin records
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 14:52 ET by ricklailHow many Deadskin records does Heath Shuler own?
YOU CAN KEEP "THE CHANGE" PALIN 2012
1, one
Sat, 12/20/2008 - 19:50 ET by general companySorry-est, pick ever. He should refund all the $ he made : [
And what the hell is with deadskins remark?
I grew up with Sonny, Billy and Joe, both of them.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Most of these greats played
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 14:50 ET by ricklailMost of these greats played both ways. Heck today the Cowboys can't get TO to play every play when he is in the game.
YOU CAN KEEP "THE CHANGE" PALIN 2012
Pardon Ramos and Compean NOW
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 14:43 ET by Jack BauerThis speaks for itself.
I'll never forgive President Bush if he doesn't issue a pardon for Ramos and Compean.
http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/2698182:3318566012:m:1:3224...
Congress-critters vote themselves a pay raise.
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 15:13 ET by R D HelmDespite a failing economy, and all the other hideous financial problems facing this country, our illustrious do-nothing congress crooks have given themselves a $4700 per-critter pay raise.
Almost enough to make you want to grab and arm-load of torches and head for DC, isn't it?
-Dave
This nation is about to be brutally raped by the socialists, and the MSM will be a willing participant.
O's picks today
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 15:42 ET by bigtimerIf you want to learn about these people he picked today...here you go.
Ray Lahood Transportation Sec. and Hilda Solis as Labor Sec.
Warning: If yopu haven't been sick enough by his picks, be ready to be sicker...have barf-bags on hand, or duct tape.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Let's play.. GUESS THE PARTY!
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 16:11 ET by pwozhttp://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/12/19/2008-12-19_queens_city_councilman_hiram_monserrate_.html
Queens City Councilman Hiram Monserrate arrested on domestic assault charge
Blago will fight, fight,
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 16:14 ET by bigtimerBlago will fight, fight, fight, until he takes his last breath!
He is not going to step down...he is dying to answer these charges, every single one of them...in a court of law...
Hahahahaaaa....there has to be some powerful forces just cringing about now....
Please reserve judgement on me...the same rights you would express for yourself.
Love how he used Kipling...
I am seriously laughing my arse off...this was priceless.
Impeachment trial coming up to a television station near you...
No seat will be filled I guess until this is done...
Political theater at it's best...like they say politics is a blood sport...and the long knives are coming out soon in Chicago.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
A sad passing
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 16:59 ET by kevcadMajel Barrett Roddenberry, "Star Trek" creator Gene Roddenberry's widow who nurtured the legacy of the seminal science fiction TV series after his death, has died. She was 76. Roddenberry died of leukemia Thursday morning at her home in Bel-Air, said Sean Rossall, a family spokesman.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081218/ap_en_ot/obit_roddenberry_1
How many of us cannot concieve of a Star Trek episode or movie without her commanding yet dulcet voice of the interactive computer? RIP Majel.
Start each day with a smile, then get it over with. - W.C. Fields
Scientists "discover" they were totally wrong
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 17:55 ET by Jack BauerSpace.com reports that:
The new observations "overturn the way that we understand how the sun's magnetic field interacts with the Earth's magnetic field," said David Sibeck of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., during a press conference today at the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco.
By "overturn" he means THE TOTAL OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE'VE (SCIENTISTS)BEEN SAYING.
Just let that sink in. Does it remind anyone of a certain scam peddled by a losing Presidential candidate with a confirmed batchelors degree in that science of "Divinity,"
→ Gotta Love it
Fri, 12/19/2008 - 18:03 ET by Cool ArrowEvery 11 years.
Let's hope it hits every bit as hard as Y2K.
Saw som Greenpeace ninny on Cavuto selling the "colder is warmer" doctrine. And our kids are being taught this. There are those who call evil good and good evil, and cold hot and hot cold.
It's worse than "opposites day" It's the Hindu "All is in all" philosophy.
cool -- oh yes, I saw that
Sat, 12/20/2008 - 06:53 ET by Jack Bauercool -- oh yes, I saw that too. What a LIAR that ignorant anti-science Greenpeaced jerk was.
Everything he said was a lie -- including Thank You Neil.
Welcome to Bizarro World!
Sat, 12/20/2008 - 07:25 ET by motherbeltWelcome to Bizarro World!